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Shaan Taseer booked for 'hate speech' following Christmas message.
LAHORE: An FIR was registered on Saturday against Shaan Taseer, son of slain Punjab governor Salmaan Taseer, for alleged ‘hate speech’ after he sent a greeting out to fellow countrymen on the occasion of Christmas.

Islampura police station received an application from its SHO Nasir Hameed and subsequently booked Shaan under Section 295-A of Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) without naming him in the report.

However, religious organisation Sunni Tehreek is pressing the police to register a case against Shaan under Section 295-C of PPC.

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According to the SHO, he received a video message in a USB wherein a man was wishing his viewers Merry Christmas and requesting fellow countrymen to pray for minority members being exploited by, what he called, the “inhumane blasphemy law”.

The man also requested prayers for blasphemy victims including Asia Bibi, Nabeel Masih and their families, and all other Pakistanis languishing in jails on charges of blasphemy, the SHO added.

According to the FIR, the man who made the speech in the video had made a mockery of the blasphemy law and hurt religious sentiments of Muslims.

Talking to The Express Tribune, Shaan said, “The state [seems to be] retreating whenever or wherever the mob appears to exact blood for imagined slights. Whereas the state should come into action when violent mobs arise [but] it retreats and even assists it. To find hate speech in today’s Pakistan not in the ranks of the ASWJ or the Lal masjid but in a Christmas message is the stuff of satire. It reminds me of a 50 50 skit.”

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Meanwhile, Sunni Tehreek Lahore chapter president Mujahid Abdul Rasool told The Express Tribune that he had filed an application at Mughalpura police station for registration of an FIR against Shaan under Section 295-C of PPC.

He accused the police of trying to protect Shaan by registering FIR against an unidentified man despite the fact that the man in the video had introduced himself as Shaan Taseer.

Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer was attacked and killed in a firing incident in Islamabad’s Kohsar market. He was shot by one of his security guards, an elite force personnel, who has been identified as Malik Mumtaz Hussain.



http://tribune.com.pk/story/1280484/shaan-taseer-booked-hate-speech-following-christmas-message/
 
Shan Taseer has got some genuine dose of Islam Alhamdoulillah.

Blasphemy Law is an un-islamic and more importantly in-humane law.

In Islam there is no prescribed worldly punishment for Apostasy or Blasphemy and Allah has taken these matters totally in his hand.

Prophet Muhammad Pbuh life and life of all 4 Caliphs is a testament that there is no worldly punishment for blasphemy neither any law was made to tackle it by either Prophet Pbuh or Caliphs RA.


To present some criminals, murderers and traitors who had also committed blasphemy as examples is terrible and irrarional argument. Because they were punished for killing innocent people of the state and for their treacherous anti state activities not for their blasphemy.


It is pertinent to note that in no capacity neither Salman Taseer committed blasphemy nor Shan Taseer has committed blasphemy but " Ulema e Soo " are in action.

Tehreek e Labbaik ya Rasool Allah has issued a Fatwa that Shan Taseer is " Wajib ul Qatal " this fatwa is available eveb online. ie they have given verdict that Shan Taseer is worthy of being murdered by anyone.


Now Shan's life is under threat. Not only him but all his extended family.


This is exactly why after getting the knowledge from Allah Mohammad e Arabi Khaatam an Nabee-een my Aaqa o Matah Pbuh said 1500 years ago than in the later age ulema of my Ummat will be worst creatures on planet earth.

No matter " Ulema e Soo " by their words and actions are proving He Pbuh 100 % right.
 
Need to fight against these mad rulings. I had my mother in law reading an article in The Australian about some whack job sheikh talking about it being haram to wish Chritsmas or celebrate the new year. She actually said why don't people refute it I said they do all the time but no one wants to print that!
 
Sounds strange but he if he has said something which broke the law of the land, can't blame the police.

Personally I like the blasphemy law if applied correctly. Nobody should abuse other people's religions, it just causes disharmony in society.
 
Blasphemy laws are unjust and used to avenge personal vendettas or oppress the weak. There is no room for such laws that are abused so regularly.
 
Blasphemy laws are unjust and used to avenge personal vendettas or oppress the weak. There is no room for such laws that are abused so regularly.

It was set up by the British to stop communal violence.

If there was no law, it would be ok for a person to stand on a street corner and disrespect anyone religion. We have to live in the real world here, this would cause problems. It can also protect the minorities who should be able to practice their religion without abuse from the majority. Pakistan has a poor criminal justice system ,that's the real issue.
 
It was set up by the British to stop communal violence.

If there was no law, it would be ok for a person to stand on a street corner and disrespect anyone religion. We have to live in the real world here, this would cause problems. It can also protect the minorities who should be able to practice their religion without abuse from the majority. Pakistan has a poor criminal justice system ,that's the real issue.

Any example where this beautiful blasphemy law is implemented correctly?
 
Sounds strange but he if he has said something which broke the law of the land, can't blame the police.

Personally I like the blasphemy law if applied correctly. Nobody should abuse other people's religions, it just causes disharmony in society.

When you mean abuse other's religion what exactly do you mean?
 
It was set up by the British to stop communal violence.

If there was no law, it would be ok for a person to stand on a street corner and disrespect anyone religion. We have to live in the real world here, this would cause problems. It can also protect the minorities who should be able to practice their religion without abuse from the majority. Pakistan has a poor criminal justice system ,that's the real issue.

Well the law is still there and hasn't stopped/reduced communal violence. There is news about violent attacks on minorities every other month. The society is rather getting barbaric and using this law to force their personal beliefs on others. Talking about real world, Britain doesn't have this law. If you were being honest you would certainly agree that communal violence there is much less than Pakistan.
 
You said the blasphemy law is not the problem but the Pakistani judicial system.

In which country is the blasphemy law a beacon then?

I mean the law in principle makes sense to me. I wouldn't want anyone standing on a corner shouting obscene words about any religion.
 
This is up to the state to define what blasphemy is. You can search for Pakistan's version.

I already know the different interpretations but as you said you are "fine" with it I wanted to know your interpretation of it.
 
Well the law is still there and hasn't stopped/reduced communal violence. There is news about violent attacks on minorities every other month. The society is rather getting barbaric and using this law to force their personal beliefs on others. Talking about real world, Britain doesn't have this law. If you were being honest you would certainly agree that communal violence there is much less than Pakistan.

Britain overall has a very good record when it comes to the criminal justice system. Pakistan has a terrible record. If any law isn't implemented properly it won't work.
 
Britain overall has a very good record when it comes to the criminal justice system. Pakistan has a terrible record. If any law isn't implemented properly it won't work.

And where in Britain is the blasphemy law?
 
I already know the different interpretations but as you said you are "fine" with it I wanted to know your interpretation of it.

I'm fine with it in principle, the details or how the judiciary sees it may be of concern, I agree.
 
And where in Britain is the blasphemy law?

Lol. I wasn't suggesting there was. I was suggesting Britain overall has a good record with law and order while Pakistan doesn't.
 
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How are you fine with it, if you don't know the details.

What interpretation are you fine with?

I don't need to know every single detail as I only agree a law should be in place to protect people's religions from being abused.

Btw I don't have to justify any of my views or opinions, accept or don't.
 
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Lol. I wasn't suggesting there was. I was suggesting Britain overall has a good record with law and order while Pakistan doesn't.

And I am aware of semantics thats why I want to clarify exactly what you mean by obscene. I would have thought if someone who is so pro-blasphemy law would have the decency to have a grasp of the specific definitions considering the horrific consequences that can result.

I'll ask again if it is the Pakistani judicial system and not the law itself that is the issue then please show us where it has been implemented successfully.

I personally don't find the persecution of people a laughing matter.
 
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I don't need to know every single detail as I only agree a law should be in place to protect people's religions from being abused.

Btw I don't have to justify any of my views or opinions, accept or don't

You don't care about the details of a law you support even if it leads the persecution of people?

You are against religions being abused yet you can't give a definition of abuse with respect to this law?

Of course you don't justify your views or opinions.
 
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Sounds strange but he if he has said something which broke the law of the land, can't blame the police.

Personally I like the blasphemy law if applied correctly. Nobody should abuse other people's religions, it just causes disharmony in society.

Also its a nice way to suppress anyone who disagrees isn't it? I also feel offended when other people try to preach their religion to me or in the west, West should have such laws too

BTW, it is just common sense that if in any country you have such a law favoring the MAJORITY, it will be abused to no end. I love the fact that a country which was formed because people thought a minority religion will be suppressed is in turn OK with suppressing every minority right and support such las
 
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You don't care about the details of a law you support even if it leads the persecution of people?

You are against religions being abused yet you can't give a definition of abuse with respect to this law?

Of course you don't justify your views or opinions, that's what I'd expect from an "enlightened soul" such as yourself.

You don't like someone - accuse him of blasphemy

you want to take over someone's property? Accuse them of blasphemy

A wife wants to get rid of her husband? Accuse him of blasphemy

A moulvi abused a girl but is afraid she will tell everyone? Accuse her of blasphemy

You can see where such a law will lead to. And India too has similar laws about "insulting" politicians, religious figures, etc.

Any law which will favor the majority will be mis-used. Majority witness can stand testimony, majority judges and lawyers can rules. Unlike most other crimes this is so open to interpretation and doesn't require physical proof. Not to mention that often the case doesn't even go to court, the accusations are enough for lynching or driving someone away by an angry mob
 
It was set up by the British to stop communal violence.

If there was no law, it would be ok for a person to stand on a street corner and disrespect anyone religion. We have to live in the real world here, this would cause problems. It can also protect the minorities who should be able to practice their religion without abuse from the majority. Pakistan has a poor criminal justice system ,that's the real issue.

Tell me once when it has been used to protect a minority?
 
Tell me once when it has been used to protect a minority?


There is no place of an Apostasy or Blasphemy Law in Islam. This is why Allah took these two subjects solely in his hand and promised that He will deal with the culprits in this world or next world or both " HIMSELF "


Human beings should not try to act " GOD " and should not try to exercise Allah's powers.


This Blasphemy Law is worst Law in Pakistan. Most misused law. In our country people take false quranic oaths in courts to save the culprits and in such cases of Blasphemy property issues conflict, personal scores, religious disagreements are settled by misusing this Law. Few witnesses are arranged who are willing to sell their faith for money or are pressurised to do so.


When there is no worldly punishment subscribed in Quran for " Disrespecting Allah " than how can there be a punishment for distespecting Prophets ? Are Prophets Naoozbillah superior than Allah ?
 
There is no place of an Apostasy or Blasphemy Law in Islam. This is why Allah took these two subjects solely in his hand and promised that He will deal with the culprits in this world or next world or both " HIMSELF "


Human beings should not try to act " GOD " and should not try to exercise Allah's powers.


This Blasphemy Law is worst Law in Pakistan. Most misused law. In our country people take false quranic oaths in courts to save the culprits and in such cases of Blasphemy property issues conflict, personal scores, religious disagreements are settled by misusing this Law. Few witnesses are arranged who are willing to sell their faith for money or are pressurised to do so.


When there is no worldly punishment subscribed in Quran for " Disrespecting Allah " than how can there be a punishment for distespecting Prophets ? Are Prophets Naoozbillah superior than Allah ?

I agree
 
This mullah Khadim Hussain Rizvi is the most hateful preacher in Pakistan and spitting more and more hateful rhetoric each and every day. Barelvis have gone bonkers and soon we will have a Lal Masjid type situation with these people - only that this will be more dangerous.
 
Son of murdered Pakistani governor may face charges over 'offensive' video

The son of a Pakistani governor killed for criticising the country's blasphemy laws may face charges under the same laws after posting a video labelled "offensive" by religious groups.

Shaan Taseer used social media to call on people to pray for those held under Pakistan's strict blasphemy laws.

Some of those charged in the country are facing the death penalty.

His father, Salman Taseer, was murdered in 2011 after speaking in favour of law reform.

"In my Christmas message, I asked all my countryman to make a special prayer for everyone who has suffered religious persecution in Pakistan," Shaan Taseer told the BBC.

He said it was time to raise the "very basic question" of whether Pakistani citizens should be able to talk about the country's "unjust" laws on blasphemy.

"This issue has been shut down at the barrel of a gun after my father's death," he said, adding: "The law of the land states very clearly that every citizen has the right to talk about not just the blasphemy law but every law."

One of those charged under the law and mentioned in Shaan Taseer's message is Asia Bibi, a Christian woman facing the death penalty for on allegations of verbally insulting the Prophet Mohammed.

His appeal for prayers for those accused of blasphemy led to calls by an Islamic group for the state to bring charges against him under the same law. He said that he had also since received death threats.

Police in the city of Lahore said they accept the contents of the message could cause offence and are now investigating whether the video is authentic.

Members of the religious group which raised concerns over Shaan Taseer's social media post have arranged to meet government officials to discuss the case.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38499188
 
KKWC...

Can you define what applied correctly means to you...

And be a bit more specific than 'obscene'...that itself is a subjective term...
 
This mullah Khadim Hussain Rizvi is the most hateful preacher in Pakistan and spitting more and more hateful rhetoric each and every day. Barelvis have gone bonkers and soon we will have a Lal Masjid type situation with these people - only that this will be more dangerous.


Well said.


This Peer Mohammad Afzal Qadri & Khaadim Hussain Rizvi are fast becoming next Abdul Aziz.


These Barelvi Muslims always were soft in their teachings and actions compared to say Deobandi Muslims but since Mumtaz Qadri became their hero they are fastly become voilent and dangerous.


I am sure these weren't the teachings of Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi but his stance on Blasphemy punishment was the same which actually collides with Quranic teachings.
 
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