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Put in to the limelight - so how is he doing?

Already questions on his decision to bat first in the 1st T20I.

Pushed himself to 5 in batting so trying what he can but is he good enough?
 
This is shocking.

How has he been chosen ahead of Imad Wasim?

misbah really is clueless.
 
Playing on a pitch that isn’t suited to our batsmen, and he decides to bat first.

Honestly, feel sorry for the fans.
 
Cant doubt his intent for sure - outscoring some top batsmen in his side
 
A true captains innings by Shadab

WHat a performance he put up there. Led from the front like a proper captain
 
Loving this tbh. He is very energetic and looks like a player switched on!
 
Shadab is doing great, better than Babar and Imad. Agressive approach in all departements. Both Babar and Imad are nowhere near to Shadab...:afridi
 
The fact that a poor cricketer like him is not only a fixture in the side but is also the vice-captain shows much we have fallen.

His bowling is awful and his batting is equally bad. Yes he is a decent fielder but a terrible side like Pakistan cannot afford to carry a player whose strongest suit is fielding.

His innings today was nothing great. He was only less terrible than the rest, and got really lucky with that brilliant catch on the boundary.

He wasted around 25 balls and only got a few big hits when Sodhi served him long-hops.

Teams around the world would lick their lips at the prospect of a nothing batsman like him batting at 5. Take a look at other number 5 batsmen in the world and then look at Shadab.

It almost feels like comedy.

Moreover, this nonsense of him captaining the side ahead of Imad needs to end.
 
Fantastic captaincy skills. Energized the entire team. Never say die attitude.
 
He did very well as a captain, much better than Babar or anyone else could have. There was a lot of passion from get go and good bowling changes. With all the focus on captaincy he lost the focus of his own bowling. He definitely got the best out of what he had and I expect him to do much better in the next game. Batting first wasn't his decision. Anyone that thinks that a Pakistani captain takes these decision with the presence of Misbah, Waqar and Younis is nieve.
 
Top order failed miserably. "experienced match winner" Wahab failed. But lets blame someone in his first match as captained.
 
Absolutely brilliant captaincy.

The thing that defined it for me was giving Shaheen those two overs and not keeping him back. The second over especially, it might not have worked but we are going to lose the match anyway. That was the only way we stood a chance and he went for it. Great to see.
 
Did a decent job to make some sort of match out of this below par total on such a ground. Ofcourse was supported well by pacers.
 
Impressed by his captaincy. The jazba that we saw in the field today was missing previously. He is a far better captain than Babar and will do even better under a proper coaching staff.
 
Shadab knows his bowling will always be unreliable. So it looks he has started to focus on his batting as his safety net. Good thing is, his batting isn’t half bad - though questionable at No 5.

So far he has been very smart with his career.

Moving forward, he has to develop one of these skills to international level or he will be in and out is the side based on others’ form.

Interesting time for him. I am backing him just for the fact that he is willing and able to think about his game constructively.
 
A natural captain, but his core skill of bowling is not good enough.

Definitely needs to improve but, there wasnt much for spinners. Sodhi went for 37 in 4 overs and that too when Pak top order was completely out of the game.
 
Under rated for his batting! Much better than people think he is . . and has definite potential! Great bat speed, solid defense . . and has shown the way in test cricket against tough attacks in tough conditions when our accomplished batsmen have failed!

Over rated for his bowling! Really worrisome where his bowling is going . . and the reason is his change in action . . look at the PSL when he burst on the scene and his first year in Pak cricket and his action now!

Brilliant fielder! Absolutely gun . .

If anyone sees it any other way, there's definite bias involved ..

Not sure about captaincy . . but then I don't see anyone as a leader in this team . . many fundamental leadership traits missing in all the candidates!
 
Shadab did well. He needs to lift his game against pace in general. But very happy to see how he's developing his batting.
 
Shadab is supremely talented. I hope he continues to learn and develop because his ceiling is very high.
 
He did well. Top 4 and Wahab let him down. Employed better tactics in the field than Babar has done so far in his captaincy tenure. I doubt he has any say in the selection of playing XI.
Although I still would want Imad to captain as he keeps the guys on toes.

Bowling wise he is still suffering. Even today, he bowled 4 good balls only to give away a 6 on the fifth one with a poor delivery. He's been doing that a lot in last 2 years. Needs tighten up his bowling and give batters no room. He used to be good bowling on good lengths, now he bowls too short or too full very often. Don't know if coaches are having a word with him about that.

But yeah, things aren't going to change with this coaching/management group. The higher ups need to accept their mistakes and change but I doubt they are man enough to stand up to a bully dictator of a PM.
 
He did okay I suppose but still has a long way to go. I was watching live from eden park and a few times when he was trying to cut off a 2 of his own bowling he looked uncomfortable and started stretching out his thigh area so maybe he’s still not 100% fit. Don’t understand why he gave Imad another over after conway was out especially considering phillips and seifert being edgy against Shaheen and rauf at that stage. Should’ve gone for the kill then. Rizwan was also on the receiving end of some very ordinary throws from the outfielders. Misbah Waqar combo certainly isn’t working.
 
I must admit I was wrong about Shadab. He showed a lot of character today. Came in at a difficult time when team was looking like being bowled out for under 100. Helped get the side to a decent total.

As captain, he was good aswell. The bowling changes at the start were inspired and he wasn't letting the New Zealand batsmen get settled against a particular bowler. He was proactive on the field, and for one thing actually looked like he was in-charge. But the total was simply below par and on this ground, it was always too much of an ask for the bowlers to defend it. On top of that, Faheem dropping the catch at the end there basically sealed the game.
 
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Doesn't mean Imad wouldn't make a better captain than him. But it doesn't mean that Shadab is a bad captain either.
 
Shadab came into match not only from a long quarantine, lack of match practise like his team mates, but also from injury missing last series as well. So his bowling was poor today, along with Wahab's.
His first ever captaincy in an international match with not much experience in domestic was very good, showi g good bowling changes, field setti gs, and motivating team mates capped by the catch he took in the field and saving runs. His batti g has also come a long way and he is also showing that his power hitting has improved. A vital player in Pak team and will be a super star if he can also bring back his bowling to previous high standards.
 
He needs to keep Imad Wasim in check. It very much seemed like Imad was trying to boss Shadab around a bit.
 
Tough call at the end whether to give Wahab his 4th over or bring Faheem on.
 
captaincy gets the best out of him , but not the team.

Agree with the bolded. Give the 2nd part of your statement some time. When a captain leads from the front and by example the rest of the team will naturally raise their game too.
 
The problem with our fans is they get hyper excited when they see some "jazba" "energy" "daleri" in the field from a captain.

The truth is all these buzzwords are just simply that. Buzzwords. Nothing else.

No amount of jazba, daleri, energy can win you cricket series if you lack the basic ingredient, which is skill.

This Pakistan team is so bereft of skills that 9 times out of 10 they will lose to England, India, Australia and NZ. That's a fact.

Misbah was considered to be one of the most passive captains ever in the history of Pakistan cricket yet he's the guy who has won the most. England and Australia whitewash, SA and India away ODI victories, Test number 1 team etc but all was done on the back of skillful cricketers like Ajmal, Hafeez, Misbah, Younis.

So no matter how much aggression and jazba Shadab brings on the field, the truth remains that he won't win series against the big teams. To rate or not rate his captaincy is one and the same thing.

On the other hand, NZ would've known today that Santner is not cut out for captaincy. To allow Pakistan of all team to score more than 100 in the last 10 after being 39/5 is shambolic.
 
The problem with our fans is they get hyper excited when they see some "jazba" "energy" "daleri" in the field from a captain.

The truth is all these buzzwords are just simply that. Buzzwords. Nothing else.

No amount of jazba, daleri, energy can win you cricket series if you lack the basic ingredient, which is skill.

This Pakistan team is so bereft of skills that 9 times out of 10 they will lose to England, India, Australia and NZ. That's a fact.

Misbah was considered to be one of the most passive captains ever in the history of Pakistan cricket yet he's the guy who has won the most. England and Australia whitewash, SA and India away ODI victories, Test number 1 team etc but all was done on the back of skillful cricketers like Ajmal, Hafeez, Misbah, Younis.

So no matter how much aggression and jazba Shadab brings on the field, the truth remains that he won't win series against the big teams. To rate or not rate his captaincy is one and the same thing.

On the other hand, NZ would've known today that Santner is not cut out for captaincy. To allow Pakistan of all team to score more than 100 in the last 10 after being 39/5 is shambolic.

Brilliantly put as usual. Totally agree.
 
I must admit I was wrong about Shadab. He showed a lot of character today. Came in at a difficult time when team was looking like being bowled out for under 100. Helped get the side to a decent total.

As captain, he was good aswell. The bowling changes at the start were inspired and he wasn't letting the New Zealand batsmen get settled against a particular bowler. He was proactive on the field, and for one thing actually looked like he was in-charge. But the total was simply below par and on this ground, it was always too much of an ask for the bowlers to defend it. On top of that, Faheem dropping the catch at the end there basically sealed the game.

Good that you finally woke up :)
 
Well done for a brilliant captain performance led from the front in batting and good bowling changes and a brillant catch.this is why i rate him so highly :)
 
The problem with our fans is they get hyper excited when they see some "jazba" "energy" "daleri" in the field from a captain.

The truth is all these buzzwords are just simply that. Buzzwords. Nothing else.

No amount of jazba, daleri, energy can win you cricket series if you lack the basic ingredient, which is skill.

This Pakistan team is so bereft of skills that 9 times out of 10 they will lose to England, India, Australia and NZ. That's a fact.

Misbah was considered to be one of the most passive captains ever in the history of Pakistan cricket yet he's the guy who has won the most. England and Australia whitewash, SA and India away ODI victories, Test number 1 team etc but all was done on the back of skillful cricketers like Ajmal, Hafeez, Misbah, Younis.

So no matter how much aggression and jazba Shadab brings on the field, the truth remains that he won't win series against the big teams. To rate or not rate his captaincy is one and the same thing.

On the other hand, NZ would've known today that Santner is not cut out for captaincy. To allow Pakistan of all team to score more than 100 in the last 10 after being 39/5 is shambolic.

I’m not sure how to interpret this....

So we suck in general, and therefore we should be pleased with a bland and boring captain and we will continue to suck still.

And we should not root for a more entertaining and passionate captain who will be a breath of fresh air in comparison to the underwhelming options we have had in the past. Because we will still suck none the less?
 
The problem with our fans is they get hyper excited when they see some "jazba" "energy" "daleri" in the field from a captain.

The truth is all these buzzwords are just simply that. Buzzwords. Nothing else.

No amount of jazba, daleri, energy can win you cricket series if you lack the basic ingredient, which is skill.

This Pakistan team is so bereft of skills that 9 times out of 10 they will lose to England, India, Australia and NZ. That's a fact.

Misbah was considered to be one of the most passive captains ever in the history of Pakistan cricket yet he's the guy who has won the most. England and Australia whitewash, SA and India away ODI victories, Test number 1 team etc but all was done on the back of skillful cricketers like Ajmal, Hafeez, Misbah, Younis.

So no matter how much aggression and jazba Shadab brings on the field, the truth remains that he won't win series against the big teams. To rate or not rate his captaincy is one and the same thing.

On the other hand, NZ would've known today that Santner is not cut out for captaincy. To allow Pakistan of all team to score more than 100 in the last 10 after being 39/5 is shambolic.

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The same Pakistani team beat England twice in the last 2 ICC tournaments when it mattered and also beat NZ in 2019.
 
I’m not sure how to interpret this....

So we suck in general, and therefore we should be pleased with a bland and boring captain and we will continue to suck still.

And we should not root for a more entertaining and passionate captain who will be a breath of fresh air in comparison to the underwhelming options we have had in the past. Because we will still suck none the less?

The whole point is teams don't win series based on the hyper-ness of the captain. Whether you have a bland captain or an entertaining captain, it's immaterial if the team is toothless.

Chris Wilder jumping up and down on the touchline, bellowing at players, gesticulating wildly would still not make Sheffield United win a match. What would make them win is a performance from the players who would need to show some skill on the field.

Similarly, having entertaining Shadab as captain or bland Babar as captain won't make a difference at all if the team is lacking basic skills. Which they abundantly lack.

As fans, stop thinking that an energetic captain will win you a series. No, he would not. Focus on players abilities. The real issue lies there. If you have the 90s peak Pakistan team right now, even Mohammad Yusuf as captain would win you the series.
 
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The same Pakistani team beat England twice in the last 2 ICC tournaments when it mattered and also beat NZ in 2019.

In a one off match, sure Pakistan can beat any team in the world. Heck even Bangladesh beat the GOAT Australian team. That's not the point. You don't judge teams based on 1 victories, even if it comes in a World Cup.

Best teams are those that win bilateral series consistently. Pakistan hardly ever wins against the big boys.

And the matches that you're referring to that Pakistan won, what did it achieve? Zilch. Pakistan got knocked out while England lifted the trophy and NZ were the runners up. So I'm not sure why we're so happy about it. I'd rather lose to England and NZ every single time in the world cup if it means Pakistan winning the tournament.
 
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The same Pakistani team beat England twice in the last 2 ICC tournaments when it mattered and also beat NZ in 2019.

And got nuked against West Indies in the World Cup opener which effectively destroyed our NRR, got trashed by India, collapsed to a defeat against Australia and needed umpire’s help to limp over the finish line against Afghanistan.

Pakistan finished 5th in a 10 team World Cup with the third worst NRR in the tournament. It was a completely average campaign.

The fact that the highlight of our World Cup was that we beat the World Cup finalists show that it was a forgettable World Cup.
 
Full-strength Pakistan would lose 8/10 times to full-strength Australia, India, England and New Zealand in LOIs in any conditions.

That is the reality of Pakistan cricket today that fans are not willing to accept.

We are in the league of West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
 
Looked very much like Shadab went out for the toss and then Imad lead the team and made most of the tactical decisions.
 
At the moment, he doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI, forget captaining the side.

He is an average bowler, whose bowling has been repeatedly exposed against the big teams, his batting is barely a level above the likes of Faheem Ashraf, and his great fielding doesn't warrant him a place in the team if his bowling or batting don't win us games.

As an all-rounder, he is a few levels below Imad, who has been our best all-rounder since Afridi's retirement and deserves to captain the team during Babar's absence.

Both Imad and Shadab bat at 7-8, a position where we need a power hitter, capable of going at 150+ in the last overs. Imad is easily the better hitter. Shadab strikes at less than 70 in ODIs, which is pathetic, even more so if he bats at such a critical position where his strike rate has to be 95+.

Even if we consider him as a bowling all-rounder, his bowling has been nothing special against the big boys. Yes, he might take a wicket here and there, but mostly when batsmen will be looking to smash him out of the park. There is a reason why his bowling average is close to 50 against non-minnows. Unlike Shadab, Imad rarely gets smashed and his fulfill his bowling role quite well, which is bowling a tidy spell, with a wicket or two as a bonus.
 
I think he did pretty good, despite the call he made of giving Wahab his fourth over instead of Faheem. But the character that he showed, with aggressive/positive mindset was amazing. He led as a captain with his batting, and fielding, but needs some improvement in his bowling.

Bottom line: There were some calls that he made that were questionable, but its his first time captaining at international level, so he will learn.

He is a future captain that Pakistan will have and he will be a top captain. Just needs to keep learning and never stop his aggressive style of captaincy
 
Misbah was considered to be one of the most passive captains ever in the history of Pakistan cricket yet he's the guy who has won the most. England and Australia whitewash, SA and India away ODI victories, Test number 1 team etc but all was done on the back of skillful cricketers like Ajmal, Hafeez, Misbah, Younis.

bro are you really going to put hafeez and ajmal under skillful? misbah won so many matches because chuckers cheated for him.
 
Did an alright job as captain. Some questionable bowling decisions, and field placings, but not too bad. Batted well, really led from the front and steered the ship. However, his bowling is a concern as of late (though I know this thread was about his captaincy mainly). All in all, he exceeded my (admittedly low) expectations.
 
What's the point of Shadab Khan?

He cant bat , cant bowl,can only field. And to top of everything he fantasizes of himself as a no5 batsman. He is only good enough to bat at no 8 and bowl a few overs as part timer. Has'nt even played much domestic cricket and fast tracked on the basis of PSL.
PSL is such a curse for Pak cricket. PSL has given us Asif, Faheem and Shadab. Domestic players are'nt even looked at.
Musa is'nt good enough to represent Pak B has horrible stats even in domestics
 
No one knows.

You need all the brilliant minds in the world to sit together and try and figure out if this guy’s stronger suit is batting or bowling, because even he doesn’t have a clue.

When he scores once in a blue moon his fans say he’s a batting all-rounder. When he bowls an impactful spell once in a blue moon his fans say he’s a bowling all-rounder.

At the moment, he is poor in both departments and wouldn’t be within a mile of a proper cricket team. The fact that only is he considered indispensable in Pakistan, he also the vice-captain shows how much we have regressed and are hovering just above minnow level.
 
Don’t blame him for coming in at 33-3 in the power play. The problem lies at the top order, when they get out cheaply, it only puts pressure on the middle order. The openers put us in a position where the middle order had to make runs but also couldn’t play risky shots in fear of losing wickets and exposing the tail.

Blame the openers.
 
Worst relu katta ever. Him Imad and faheem are nothing cricketers.sooner pak gets rid of them the better
 
I’ve said this since day 1. The three swagsters: Shadab, Faheem, Hasan Ali are mediocre at best. I’ve no idea how this guy is leading the team. He is inly a good fielder, that’s all.
 
Strange
Just few days back many posters declared he is Jadeja level player.
Opinions are changing after every match.
Let's wait untill end of the series.
 
Don’t blame him for coming in at 33-3 in the power play. The problem lies at the top order, when they get out cheaply, it only puts pressure on the middle order. The openers put us in a position where the middle order had to make runs but also couldn’t play risky shots in fear of losing wickets and exposing the tail.

Blame the openers.

Spot on
 
Strange
Just few days back many posters declared he is Jadeja level player.
Opinions are changing after every match.
Let's wait untill end of the series.

Most posters are ignorant. Shadab will never be anywhere close to Jadeja.

Even if Jadeja becomes a number 11 and Shadab continued to do the all-rounder drama, Jadeja would still be a far more useful cricketer.
 
Tbf, how did that game go into the last over with New Zealand cruising?
 
Never rated Shadab Khan as a player, he's a poor mans Steve Smith or dare I say it, Shoaib Malik: a spinner who is transitioning into a batting all-rounder and will most likely be a specialist bat at the end of his career. I give him points though for the way he has conducted himself, seems like a decent bloke but an average player who should be nowhere near the captaincy. The fact that he is vice captain speaks volumes for the lack of talent in Pakistani circles. Imad Wasim is the obvious choice for that post, has the experience and semi-consistent performances in t20s and would be a great foil for Babar Azam.
 
The pakiatan fans are pathetic just a few days ago people were stating hes unstoppable now he doesnt warrant a place in the team.ludicious shadab is here to stay even if you dont like it
 
Baptism of fire for the young man.

Tried his level best, but made some glaring errors at key moments.

He has a lot to learn yet as a skipper.
 
At the moment, he doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI, forget captaining the side.

He is an average bowler, whose bowling has been repeatedly exposed against the big teams, his batting is barely a level above the likes of Faheem Ashraf, and his great fielding doesn't warrant him a place in the team if his bowling or batting don't win us games.

As an all-rounder, he is a few levels below Imad, who has been our best all-rounder since Afridi's retirement and deserves to captain the team during Babar's absence.

Both Imad and Shadab bat at 7-8, a position where we need a power hitter, capable of going at 150+ in the last overs. Imad is easily the better hitter. Shadab strikes at less than 70 in ODIs, which is pathetic, even more so if he bats at such a critical position where his strike rate has to be 95+.

Even if we consider him as a bowling all-rounder, his bowling has been nothing special against the big boys. Yes, he might take a wicket here and there, but mostly when batsmen will be looking to smash him out of the park. There is a reason why his bowling average is close to 50 against non-minnows. Unlike Shadab, Imad rarely gets smashed and his fulfill his bowling role quite well, which is bowling a tidy spell, with a wicket or two as a bonus.


I couldn't agree more. Shadab is extremely mediocre. His bowling has been below par in the last year or so and his batting, well the less said the better.

I know we are looking for a great AR, but I do not think Shadab is there yet. He needs to work REALLY hard because at the moment he is a bit and pieces player who is handed too much.

Personally i think he needs to be dropped. Imad should captain and we should probably bring in Qadir or a genuine wrist spinner in the squad.
 
Most posters are ignorant. Shadab will never be anywhere close to Jadeja.

Even if Jadeja becomes a number 11 and Shadab continued to do the all-rounder drama, Jadeja would still be a far more useful cricketer.

Jadeja is wayyyyyyyyy too good. Shadab is nowhere near imo. Would love to have a player like Jadeja, he is a better version of Imad imo. Althought Imads bowling is a little better in white ball cricket.
 
Jadeja is wayyyyyyyyy too good. Shadab is nowhere near imo. Would love to have a player like Jadeja, he is a better version of Imad imo. Althought Imads bowling is a little better in white ball cricket.[/QUOTE

Jadeja was nowhere near shahdab when he started. For first 3 4 years or more, jadeja was a terrible player. But he has hugely improved especially his batting. Would love to see shahdab doing the same
 
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