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Shadab Khan should be sacked as captain of Islamabad United & removed as vice-captain of Pakistan

IU were unlucky with injuries. The success in this PSL has been seeing the likes of Shadab, Shaheen, Rizwan impress with the captaincy and lead by example.
 
Savak said:
IU were unlucky with injuries. The success in this PSL has been seeing the likes of Shadab, Shaheen, Rizwan impress with the captaincy and lead by example.
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This.

It was frustrating in earlier editions of the PSL, to see so many foreign or non t20 captains. What we’re seeing now is a core of leaders developing that’ll be mainstays for Pakistan for the next 5 years at least.
 
I think he was a great captain

Very good bowler and a very confident batsman. They should have bagged this game, some of those players with the bat let him down.

There was no need for Hassan Ali to hole out.
 
Shadab has performed well led his team with both bat and ball and is a contender for player of the tournament.
 
Not a good captain at all, kept selecting two most useless players , Asif and Hasan Ali.
 
Why does Shadab Khan not utilize the second spinner properly?

THis has happened many times. Shadab doesnt really add another spinner in his team, and if he does, he doesnt even give them a proper chance.

Zafar Gohar has been with Isb united for a long time, yet Shadab barely gave him matches even though Zafar has taken 4vers in a t20 game.

Mubashir Khan last year was not given many chances to bowl, Shadab would either bench him, play him for 1 or 2 overs or give him his full qouta when he was getting hit.

Today Mubashir bowled a very good over, he got one wicket, babar azam was playing, Shadab removed him from bowling and he started to bowl from Mubashirs end and completed his own qouta of overs first.

Abrar Ahmed, the talented spinner is in Isb's team, last match he was the best bowler due to being economical against the mighty Multan Sultan, today Shadab benched him....

I dont know if anyone else saw this trend with Shadab, but i believe Shadab does this with other spinners on purpose as he feels insecure of his own spot in the national team
 
I think and hope he removed him as there was no left hander apart from Neesham where he could have bowled him again. He especially came on for left handed Saim maybe 🤔
 
Shadab Khan trying to be a hero when he knew Islamabad were well on their way to a win.

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Selfish cricketer his act depicts it, nonetheless he is a mercenary who doesn't give a damn about national side
 
Major said:
THis has happened many times. Shadab doesnt really add another spinner in his team, and if he does, he doesnt even give them a proper chance.

Zafar Gohar has been with Isb united for a long time, yet Shadab barely gave him matches even though Zafar has taken 4vers in a t20 game.

Mubashir Khan last year was not given many chances to bowl, Shadab would either bench him, play him for 1 or 2 overs or give him his full qouta when he was getting hit.

Today Mubashir bowled a very good over, he got one wicket, babar azam was playing, Shadab removed him from bowling and he started to bowl from Mubashirs end and completed his own qouta of overs first.

Abrar Ahmed, the talented spinner is in Isb's team, last match he was the best bowler due to being economical against the mighty Multan Sultan, today Shadab benched him....

I dont know if anyone else saw this trend with Shadab, but i believe Shadab does this with other spinners on purpose as he feels insecure of his own spot in the national team
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I personally don't think it's becouse he's insecure of his position in the national team as he's a guaranteed starter in t20s.
 
Major said:
THis has happened many times. Shadab doesnt really add another spinner in his team, and if he does, he doesnt even give them a proper chance.

Zafar Gohar has been with Isb united for a long time, yet Shadab barely gave him matches even though Zafar has taken 4vers in a t20 game.

Mubashir Khan last year was not given many chances to bowl, Shadab would either bench him, play him for 1 or 2 overs or give him his full qouta when he was getting hit.

Today Mubashir bowled a very good over, he got one wicket, babar azam was playing, Shadab removed him from bowling and he started to bowl from Mubashirs end and completed his own qouta of overs first.

Abrar Ahmed, the talented spinner is in Isb's team, last match he was the best bowler due to being economical against the mighty Multan Sultan, today Shadab benched him....

I dont know if anyone else saw this trend with Shadab, but i believe Shadab does this with other spinners on purpose as he feels insecure of his own spot in the national team
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He explained in the post game interview that Islamabad being a data-driven side who believe in match-ups used their bowlers accordingly - nothing sinister.
 
MenInG said:
He explained in the post game interview that Islamabad being a data-driven side who believe in match-ups used their bowlers accordingly - nothing sinister.
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i dont believe him. Although i am a fan of his, but this is the 3rd time we are seeing him mistreat a local spinner.

If Shadab Khan himself doesnt bowl well, he still completes his own qouta.
 
Not this match-ups drama again. There is no such thing as match-ups in cricket. It is a load of nonsense.

An annoying term that has become the buzzword in cricket over the last couple of years even though it doesn’t mean anything.

Shadab treats Islamabad United like his personal team. He has too much authority and when you have too much authority you are likely to misuse it.
 
Mamoon said:
Not this match-ups drama again. There is no such thing as match-ups in cricket. It is a load of nonsense.

An annoying term that has become the buzzword in cricket over the last couple of years even though it doesn’t mean anything.

Shadab treats Islamabad United like his personal team. He has too much authority and when you have too much authority you are likely to misuse it.
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I beg to differ. Match up is very much relevant in T20 cricket.

Agreed on Shadab.
 
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It is in nature of all Pakistani players to think about themselves first over the team.
 
PakPremi said:
It is in nature of all Pakistani players to think about themselves first over the team.
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Nice. Can you list the players who in this current Pakistan team think about themselves before the team? Be honest
 
Mamoon said:
Not this match-ups drama again. There is no such thing as match-ups in cricket. It is a load of nonsense.

An annoying term that has become the buzzword in cricket over the last couple of years even though it doesn’t mean anything.

Shadab treats Islamabad United like his personal team. He has too much authority and when you have too much authority you are likely to misuse it.
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na match ups are not irrelevant. Infact, the reason why Hafeez had a succesful career under Misbah's captaincy was because of these so called match ups. Bring a left armer and hafeez would be bowling them out.

Even in this PSL, Rizwan was well aware that Azam Khan is too scared to face pacey delivery. He made sure Ihsanullah would bowl him. THe guy troubled Aazam soo much that he got under pressure and threw his wicket to Abbas Afridi
 
Major said:
na match ups are not irrelevant. Infact, the reason why Hafeez had a succesful career under Misbah's captaincy was because of these so called match ups. Bring a left armer and hafeez would be bowling them out.

Even in this PSL, Rizwan was well aware that Azam Khan is too scared to face pacey delivery. He made sure Ihsanullah would bowl him. THe guy troubled Aazam soo much that he got under pressure and threw his wicket to Abbas Afridi
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Yeah I guess those Sixes Azam tonked Nortje for never happened in the UAE

Major keep up brother.
 
Rana said:
Yeah I guess those Sixes Azam tonked Nortje for never happened in the UAE

Major keep up brother.
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what was his bowling speed and how many runs he score off of him and how high or low was the bounce?
 
Major said:
what was his bowling speed and how many runs he score off of him and how high or low was the bounce?
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Regardless

If you have smashed a 155kmh bowler for sixes how can you be terrified of pace??

If you want to speak about pace and fear, we all saw how Babar threw in the towel against Mark Wood in the 7 match series
 
Rana said:
Regardless

If you have smashed a 155kmh bowler for sixes how can you be terrified of pace??

If you want to speak about pace and fear, we all saw how Babar threw in the towel against Mark Wood in the 7 match series
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not regardless.

i have given you points to do a proper analysis.
 
Rana said:
No you have not. You have given me a biased analysis

It’s not credible
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how is there biasness in this?
his bowling speed and how many runs he score off of him and how high or low was the bounce?

Where is the biasness? These are factors that determine how good of a player you are.

You are gonna tell me that a pacer bowling 150kph but with the ball with low bounce has the same effect as a bowler who bowls 145kph on a high bounce wicket?

Have you ever played hard ball cricket?
 
Rana said:
Major mate you can’t be serious. It’s ok, you will find the answers to your own silly questions very soon as you usually do.
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Azam Khans starting SR vs pace is only 124, vs spin it's 168. He also has a high dismissal rate vs high pace (every 14/15 balls). We all saw what happened when Ihsanullah came to bowl, he didn't have a clue and was being made to dance. Azam also knows this is a glaring weakness of his,

"I am working on my game against pace and have been practicing. Against spin, I was averaging 170-180 but against the pacers, it was only 118-120," he pointed out the difference while in an interview.

Just because he has hit a few sixes vs Nortje on a dead pitch in the UAE it doesn't mean he is comfortable against pace, otherwise apply your logic to all your arguments and also admit Rizwans 100+ average and 144 SR this season proves he's the best opener in Pak. Although both things are not true, because flukes happen.
 
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Pakistan cricket these days,

Tailenders thinking they are number 4 batsmen
 
Rana said:
Pakistan cricket these days,

Tailenders thinking they are number 4 batsmen
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One of the most frequent criticism of Pakistan Cricket here is that youngsters don't get enough chances. And when teams do give them chances and they fail, we then criticize them to be pretenders.

Shadab is young and our premier all rounder. If he can improve his batting, it adds so much more balance to our line ups. Domestic T20s are the perfect place to promote him.
 
Shadab Khan - I feel takes unnecessary chances. No need for this - just like yesterday as well.

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so good move to play both spinners and islamabad is going in with their best bowling line up. really strong one
 
As a batsman, he is marginally better than a tailender. As a bowler, he is a marginally better than a part-timer.

He does not have the skill, fitness and heart to play Test cricket. As an all-round cricketer, he is the definition of a bits and pieces player.

The real problem is that as per Islamabad United, his dedicated fan club and Shadab himself, he is the reincarnation of Gary Sobers.

I am waiting for a Pakistani captain, coach or a selector to take him off this pedestal and cut this golden boy tag that he has carried for 6 years for no reason.

He is one of the luckiest players in history of Pakistan cricket. His performances and skills over the years do not reflect the status, reputation and hype that he generates.

If he was born a few years earlier and emerged when the likes of Afridi, Ajmal, Hafeez and Malik wee playing regularly, he would have been treated like a nobody.
 
I don't think he should be batting at number 4 in any line-up.

He's not good enough to regularly bat at 4. He might fluke a big score once in a blue moon, but most of the time he'll flop batting at such a high position.
 
Major said:
i dont believe him. Although i am a fan of his, but this is the 3rd time we are seeing him mistreat a local spinner.

If Shadab Khan himself doesnt bowl well, he still completes his own qouta.
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Yeah I’m concerned about this. He is holding back zafar gohar and now abrar. Glad abrar is at least getting a game or two now.

Btw I have the same concern with Imad not playing qasim Akram.
 
Saj said:
I don't think he should be batting at number 4 in any line-up.

He's not good enough to regularly bat at 4. He might fluke a big score once in a blue moon, but most of the time he'll flop batting at such a high position.
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Azam khan has once again shown that he should be batting at 4. He needs time to build his inning and if he gets that time he wins the game for his team.
 
Officer Barbrady said:
Yeah I’m concerned about this. He is holding back zafar gohar and now abrar. Glad abrar is at least getting a game or two now.

Btw I have the same concern with Imad not playing qasim Akram.
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Zafar Gohar may well benefit from moving to another franchise - Same worked for Azam Khan.
 
Former Pakistan cricketer, Shoaib Akhtar, believes that Islamabad United captain, Shadab Khan, possess leadership qualities and can lead Pakistan in white-ball cricket in future.

While speaking on a local TV channel, the former pacer said that the all-rounder has improved as a cricketer and is very cautious about his on-screen image.

"Shadab is a very smart kid when it comes to cricket skills. He wants to improve, which is a very good thing. He is ready to accept his mistakes and rectify them. In past two years, he has worked really hard on his bowling and his fitness has improved as well," Akhtar said.

"He is also very vigilant when it comes to managing his career. He wants to look good and speaks well. In times to come, he is not a bad option for captaincy for Pakistan in white-ball cricket," he added.
 
Why on earth is he still batting at the number 4 position.

Keeps flopping match after match, but still keeps placing himself there in the order.

Surely you should have a proper batter in the number 4 spot.
 
Averaging 5 with the bat after scoring 20 runs in 4 innings.

Strike rate of 71.
 
Impressive from Shadab Khan today - no wickets but excellent economy 0/21 (4 overs) - Didn't allow Imad to attack him.
 
But wasn't he 'hiding' down the order today?
 
Saj said:
But wasn't he 'hiding' down the order today?
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I don’t know if your post was ironic, but he stated that he wanted the left right combo by sending Faheem up. He also said that he wanted to give Faheem enough time out in the middle to get into some form. I think that’s intelligent, because these are the games where you experiment, before the business end of the tournament.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I don’t know if your post was ironic, but he stated that he wanted the left right combo by sending Faheem up. He also said that he wanted to give Faheem enough time out in the middle to get into some form. I think that’s intelligent, because these are the games where you experiment, before the business end of the tournament.
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I know what he said, but then some would say that's hiding down the order, rather than looking at the bigger picture.
 
Saj said:
I know what he said, but then some would say that's hiding down the order, rather than looking at the bigger picture.
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It’s like that old Rajesh Khanna song:

“Kuch to log Kahein ge, Logon ka kaam hai kehna”
 
Some real emotion it seems at the end of the game vs Karachi - Good for Azam, Shadab and the team

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MenInG said:
Some real emotion it seems at the end of the game vs Karachi - Good for Azam, Shadab and the team

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What was this drama.

Playing to the cameras again.
 
Islamabad United skipper, Shadab Khan, has revealed that he has still not fully recovered from his finger injury which he sustained while playing for Hobart Hurricanes in Big Bash League.

Pakistan vice-captain Shadab Khan was not considered for selection against New Zealand in three-match ODI series after he suffered a fracture on his finger.

"I have not recovered from my finger injury because I can still feel the swelling and pain," said Shadab in an interview.

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Saj said:
But wasn't he 'hiding' down the order today?
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No he was not.

Had he himself came up at that position and not scored runs people would had bashed him.

He has been out of form and the decision to send faheem worked.

Islamabad extends its batting by playing one of the allrounders at the middle order. Shadab hasnt been scoring runs and has been a walking wicket, thus they experimented with faheem and it worked.

I would be more concerned with him not giving overs to mubasir
 
MenInG said:
Islamabad United skipper, Shadab Khan, has revealed that he has still not fully recovered from his finger injury which he sustained while playing for Hobart Hurricanes in Big Bash League.

Pakistan vice-captain Shadab Khan was not considered for selection against New Zealand in three-match ODI series after he suffered a fracture on his finger.

"I have not recovered from my finger injury because I can still feel the swelling and pain," said Shadab in an interview.

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He needs to sit out and let the injury heal. That finger is not going to heal if put under pressure when not hundred percent healed.
 
He has improved a lot as a bowler since i created this thread. His leaderships has improved a little as well although i wouldn't call him a natural captain. His batting has a lot of potential but t20 is the format he shouldn't be using to bat up the order. Should be batting higher up the order in FC and LA. The strength he provides to Pakistan team is usually his batting exploits down at no. 7 or no.8
Hasan is probably a more natural leader but hasn't been bowling well for over a year now.
 
MenInG said:
Islamabad United skipper, Shadab Khan, has revealed that he has still not fully recovered from his finger injury which he sustained while playing for Hobart Hurricanes in Big Bash League.

Pakistan vice-captain Shadab Khan was not considered for selection against New Zealand in three-match ODI series after he suffered a fracture on his finger.

"I have not recovered from my finger injury because I can still feel the swelling and pain," said Shadab in an interview.

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He should not be playing if he's injured. IU has almost qualified already and Mubasir can provide spin cover. Plus a t20 league isn't the place to risk worsening your injury.
 
Possibly his worst outing today as skipper in PSL8.

He had the opposition at 52/4 after 10 overs and let things slip with some stupid bowling changes and bowling himself.
 
Saj said:
Possibly his worst outing today as skipper in PSL8.

He had the opposition at 52/4 after 10 overs and let things slip with some stupid bowling changes and bowling himself.
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not bad captaincy.

His bowling changes were top notch. He used Farooqi for 3 overs in the PP.

You have to give credit to the opposition. Najeebullah is not a bad player, he is a very good striker for Afghanistan. Nawaz also batted where sensibly, plus you have to take into account that the boundary size is small and the avg runs per over in Pindi this psl has been over 9.

The bowlers just bowled bad, pindi offers no spin to spinners.

Maybe if Abrar had played instead of Mubasir here. But the runs scored has nothing to do with Shadabs captaincy
 
But the runs scored has nothing to do with Shadabs captaincy
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Why? Was he off the field then or had he handed the captaincy to someone else when QG were smashing the IU bowlers to all parts? :)
 
Saj said:
Why? Was he off the field then or had he handed the captaincy to someone else when QG were smashing the IU bowlers to all parts? :)
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So when a team is playing better cricket, that automatically means that the opposing teams captain is a bad captain?

Yes Quetta came back from 14 for 4 to score 180, but that was all down to the good batting by Najeebullah and Nawaz
 
Major said:
So when a team is playing better cricket, that automatically means that the opposing teams captain is a bad captain?

Yes Quetta came back from 14 for 4 to score 180, but that was all down to the good batting by Najeebullah and Nawaz
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So when a bowling attack is doing well, the captain is doing a good job, but when his team is getting smashed to all parts, then it's nothing to do with him.

Strange logic that.
 
28 runs in 5 innings at an average of 7 at PSL 8 so far, yet more often than not keeps batting up the order.

For good measure, his strike-rate at PSL8 is 90.32.
 
Pathetic from Shadab coming in at 4 every game. Mubasir is miles better bat then him.
 
Saj said:
So when a bowling attack is doing well, the captain is doing a good job, but when his team is getting smashed to all parts, then it's nothing to do with him.

Strange logic that.
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Just because the opposing team is playing better cricket, doesnt automatically make the captain bad. The captain would be criticized if there was a better bowler who was not being given an over.

Fazalhaq Farooqi had bowled 3 and his one over was being saved for the death overs. While all the other bowlers, be it Mubasir, Shadab himself, Faheem, hasan and Rumman all were getting hit for runs. The opposing batters were very good, especially Najeebullah Zadran.

You might think I am being biased but i am not. While i do support Shadab Khan, but I often criticize him, especially the way he doesnt use his spinners properly and the fact that as a batter he throws his wicket away and tends to put pressure on his team.
 
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He is a clown of a cricketer. The way he has conned PCB and the fans into thinking that he is a world beating all-rounder is hilarious.

He is bang average with both bat and ball. A 30 run cameo and a 4-0-22-0 type performance with the ball is considered good for him.

He is not a proper spinner or a batsman and his presence in the team makes both the batting and the bowling weak at the same time.

In addition, his attitude is embarrassing. He is a pure mercenary who couldn’t care less about Test cricket and is barely interested in ODIs. He has no pride when it comes to representing Pakistan. It is all acting.
 
Ordinary PSL 8 so far:

109 runs in 8 innings at an average of 13.62. Strike rate 131.

10 wickets which is ok - economy rate of 8.86.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a clown of a cricketer. The way he has conned PCB and the fans into thinking that he is a world beating all-rounder is hilarious.

He is bang average with both bat and ball. A 30 run cameo and a 4-0-22-0 type performance with the ball is considered good for him.

He is not a proper spinner or a batsman and his presence in the team makes both the batting and the bowling weak at the same time.

In addition, his attitude is embarrassing. He is a pure mercenary who couldn’t care less about Test cricket and is barely interested in ODIs. He has no pride when it comes to representing Pakistan. It is all acting.
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bro he has conned no one. Even he himself says that there were many players that were better than him that should had played and that he got lucky that he ended up playing for Pakistan.

His bowling line and length was an issue which is not fixed. His only issue is that he breaks down quite quickly, which happens in many sports. There are players that develop issues related to fitness even though they are fit but their body breaks down
 
Usama Mir is probably a better option than him

Not as a fielder though
 
Probably needs to be one of the players who are being rested for the Afghanistan series.

It will give him time away from the game and also to recover from the injuries he is carrying.
 
Shadab's captaincy has been decent. Even Nick Knight praises him extensively. Definitely better than Babar.
 
He's impressed enough at ISLU to get the go-ahead for T20I captain against Afghanistan.

How do you think he'll get on?
 
he is going to be the captain of the antional team. good decision
 
Anyone else feel he makes Islamabad's batting weaker? Because of his "he can bat at 4" gimmick, they've kept him in the squad instead of a proper batsman. He never ever looks convincing when he's batting not even when he's in form. They need a proper middle order batsman in the squad to partner Azam, not a tail-ender slogger.
 
Hales
Gurbaz
Munro
Maqsood
Azam
Shadab
Faheem

A much more balanced lineup. Watching Islamabad play Shadab at 4 and Asif at 6 feels like we've already lost the match when the first few wickets fall.
 
Good decision to bowl first. Bad decision to change batting line up. SHould had sent munro on his number and sent Azam later and moved himself up.
Once Azam khan got out we had no one at back up. Relying on Munro to save us.
Faheem un lucky.

poor captaincy by SHadab at the end, and got Islamabad out of the tournament.

He wasted the selection of junion player on a player that he didn't even bowl or bat. Basically wasting a whole number and Islamabad playing with 10 men.

United's management group needs to bring Misbah back as coach and time to move on from Shadab. Ever since Misbah left, this franchise hasn't won a psl ever again
 
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