"Shaheen might have gone for 14-15 crore had he been there at the IPL auction" : Ravi Ashwin

[MenInG]

"Shaheen might have gone for 14-15 crore had he been there at the IPL auction" : Ravi Ashwin

Speaking on his YT channel


"I have thought a lot about how crazy it would have been if Shaheen Afridi had been there in an IPL auction. A tall left-arm seamer who sets the game with the new ball and also unleashes yorkers at the death. He might have gone for 14-15 crore had he been there at the IPL auction"

"All Pakistani fast bowlers clock 140-145 kph consistently. I don't think any team in world cricket has such a rich backup of fast bowlers. Pakistan have always been a side with so much raw talent on display."

"Imad Wasim is a notable exclusion from Pakistan's squad. He has been a regular feature for them in the T20 format. But he is not there this time. Instead, they have gone for Mohammad Nawaz, who is very much like Ravindra Jadeja"

 

[JaDed]

Who knows but he would had gone for more than Babar..

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Ashwin is smart. He knows the value of a Shaheen in a league where the Arshdeeps, Avesh Khans and Umran Maliks of the world are actually wicket-takers.

 

[Villager6964]

One thing i have noticed about r Ashwin,he doesn't care much about the backlash from Indians. He always been vocal about Pakistani players and he has praised them quite a many times.

He does seem like a smart guy. Pakistan have got quite many bowlers in 140-150kms range.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He could have been in the IPL if he was not a Pakistani.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ashwin is smart. He knows the value of a Shaheen in a league where the Arshdeeps, Avesh Khans and Umran Maliks of the world are actually wicket-takers.

But some people are not smart enough to realise that most of the top batters of the world play in that league.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Tanvir held the best bowling record for a very long time.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He could have been in the IPL if he was not a Pakistani.

Ashwin wouldn't have given that statement if Shaheen wasn't a Pakistani.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Imran Tahir eve at the age of 40 went for 1 crore.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Okay so? He plays in PSL and other premium leagues so don't try to beat up IPL Mr Ashwin, Shaheen and Pak fans are happy with what Shaheen is and where he is playing

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

But some people are not smart enough to realise that most of the top batters of the world play in that league.

Your point?

The topic was about bowling, not batting.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I don't think so.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Ashwin wouldn't have given that statement if Shaheen wasn't a Pakistani.

This is the kind of statement after which the only thing left to say is: touché.

If [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] had any modicum of rationality left inside, he would say the same.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is the kind of statement after which the only thing left to say is: touché.

If [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] had any modicum of rationality left inside, he would say the same.

Rationality is that Shaheen has almost zero chance of playing the IPL. And hence no one has any idea how much he would go for.

15-16 crore is 2mn USD. How many players in the history of IPL has gone for that amount? And how many of them non Indian?

 

[Rana]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Rationality is that Shaheen has almost zero chance of playing the IPL. And hence no one has any idea how much he would go for.

15-16 crore is 2mn USD. How many players in the history of IPL has gone for that amount? And how many of them non Indian?

Yeah but Avesh Khan, Umran and Arshdeep are worth a couple of crores right?

Rationality is deducing that if those trundlers with no discernable talent can get big money deals, then surely Shaheen will be one of the most expensive buys.

Especially considering that India is so desperate for left-armers that they seem to pick just about anyone who happens to bowl left-arm...regardless of how good they actually are. First it was Khaleel (rubbish bowler) now its Arshdeep (another rubbish bowler).

 

[JaDed]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

Rauf might end up fetching more than Shadab and no Naseem wouldn't fetch 1 mill based on one game. T20 mercenaries actually fetch good money.

If anything I would say Shaheen would be 1-1.5 million assuming he is available to play the entire tournament.

 

[Rohan]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

You forgot Imad, Hafeez and Jijaji

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Rationality is that Shaheen has almost zero chance of playing the IPL. And hence no one has any idea how much he would go for.

15-16 crore is 2mn USD. How many players in the history of IPL has gone for that amount? And how many of them non Indian?

Didn't Unadkat get a contract of 10-12 crores something?

 

[Rana]

You forgot Imad, Hafeez and Jijaji

Their time is up.

I watch cricket very closely. These are estimates that are accurate as can be.

 

[kukkad kamaal]

What about Shan Masood ?

 

[Mobashir]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

This is what Babar might get the second time around.
But if enters the auction right now, he will be in the top 5 most expensive players. His market is so so so big. Shaheen is second from the Pakistani but still he is very very far behind Babar Azam.

Currently Babar Azam is at the peak of the cricket world.

 

[Rana]

In an IPL auction which includes Pakistani cricketers, these pace bowlers are 100% going to be picked up:

1. Shaheen Afridi
2. Naseem Shah
3. Mohammad Hasnain
4. Shahnawaz Dahani
5. Harris Rauf

If the IPL franchises have a strong scouting system and are following the Pakistan domestic market:

6. Zeeshan Zameer (bags of potential)
7. Arshad Iqbal
8. Akif Javed (injury prone/terrible fielder)
9. Sameen Gul (gone off the radar a bit)

 

[Rana]

This is what Babar might get the second time around.
But if enters the auction right now, he will be in the top 5 most expensive players. His market is so so so big. Shaheen is second from the Pakistani but still he is very very far behind Babar Azam.

Currently Babar Azam is at the peak of the cricket world.

Babar around 2 years ago I think would be going for the top 5. Right now I’m not so sure. What does Babar gaurentee as a batsman?

-Bats through the innings at an acceptable strike rate, adding 60-100 runs. This for me does secure $300k at least

However, he does have major issues against spin. He doesn’t possess release shots such as the reverse sweep or a strong slog sweep to counter high quality spinners turning the ball away from him

 

[JaDed]

I'm guessing as per [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION], IPL will just pick up Pakistanis as foreign T20 players okk sir.

 

[JaDed]

I'll say one thing though IPL franchises would had handled Shaheen's injury better than PCB though.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't think so.

I kinda agree. But You can'tt predict these things. It is a complete lottery. It depends what time your name comes up for auction. Whether franchise is running out of cash or when they have a lot of cash. Some random guys like Gowtham went for 9 crores without even bowling a single ball in that season lol

 

[Mesozoic]

I'm pretty sure Ashwin is smart enough to know how the whole auction system works.

And he's also smart enough to know how to run a YouTube channel so there we go.

 

[shujaatraza]

Their time is up.

I watch cricket very closely. These are estimates that are accurate as can be.

How closely? Like 6 inches away from the television?

 

[Rana]

How closely? Like 6 inches away from the television?

Closer than you think

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I'm pretty sure Ashwin is smart enough to know how the whole auction system works.

And he's also smart enough to know how to run a YouTube channel so there we go.

Lol if he wants to run his youtube channel, he will have to keep indian viewers happy. IMHO he shouldn't risk his life by praising a Pakistani bowler like this. Some fans(most probably andhbhakhts) are already asking him to settle in Pakistan. This is Modi's India.

 

[Moeey]

One thing i have noticed about r Ashwin,he doesn't care much about the backlash from Indians. He always been vocal about Pakistani players and he has praised them quite a many times.

He does seem like a smart guy. Pakistan have got quite many bowlers in 140-150kms range.

You do realize he is doing this for likes and to promote his YT channel loool

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You do realize he is doing this for likes and to promote his YT channel loool

From where will he get more likes India or Pakistan?

 

[giri26]

You do realize he is doing this for likes and to promote his YT channel loool

Ashwin like other YouTuber's doesn't have to talk about Pakistan to gain subscribers. He has a very loyal fanbase in India especially from Tamil Nadu as most of his content is in Tamil with subtitles. He isn't like the host of former cricketers who talk about the team across the border to gain subscribers. If you took time to look at his content you will realise that he hardly talks about Pakistan.

 

[JaDed]

Ashwin like other YouTuber's doesn't have to talk about Pakistan to gain subscribers. He has a very loyal fanbase in India especially from Tamil Nadu as most of his content is in Tamil with subtitles. He isn't like the host of former cricketers who talk about the team across the border to gain subscribers. If you took time to look at his content you will realise that he hardly talks about Pakistan.

That is actually true, the posters opens threads only when he talks about PCT players.

 

[giri26]

That is actually true, the posters opens threads only when he talks about PCT players.

Yeah I follow his YouTube channel and most of his videos are very informative. He is very passionate about TN cricket, so lots of his videos are about that. He also talks a lot of Tamil films as he is a big fan. I have hardly seen him talk anything about Pakistan or their players unlike some of the experts across the border whose main content is only about Indian cricket team.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You do realize he is doing this for likes and to promote his YT channel loool

That is untrue. Chennai fans love cricketers from all the countries. Remember the standing ovation that Anwar got or Pakistan got after a tight Test win. They just appreciate cricket. Ashwin is an unadulterated version of that cricketing culture. He doesn't depend on youtube to make money lol.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Ashwin like other YouTuber's doesn't have to talk about Pakistan to gain subscribers. He has a very loyal fanbase in India especially from Tamil Nadu as most of his content is in Tamil with subtitles. He isn't like the host of former cricketers who talk about the team across the border to gain subscribers. If you took time to look at his content you will realise that he hardly talks about Pakistan.

Exactly he interviews a lot of movie stars, female cricketers, players from other sports, commentators.

 

[bujhee kom]

Speculative and not worthwhile. Pakistan players can play Dhaka league if they are hunting big money. 1 taka is 3 pkr.

 

[Major]

He could have been in the IPL if he was not a Pakistani.

hence discrimination

 

[Rana]

hence discrimination

In the world of Indian democracy

It’s not discrimination if India does it

 

[Moeey]

From where will he get more likes India or Pakistan?

He will always have Indian followers. South India love him. Pak followers are a bonus

 

[cricketjoshila]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

Yes pakistanis will get all the money, rest of the world is there to collect pennies.

While Shaheen will no doubt get good money, i dont see why he will get $2mn when Jofra gets 1mn or Rabada gets 1.1mn.

Second is Babar, thats a very fair estimation of his value.

Imad Wasim and Rizwan may get good money.


Rest i dont think anyone will get bids above their base prices.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

hence discrimination

In the world of Indian democracy

It’s not discrimination if India does it

It is like sanctions. Just like North Koreans are not employable around the world due to US sanctions,
Same is the case with Pakistanis in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah but Avesh Khan, Umran and Arshdeep are worth a couple of crores right?

Rationality is deducing that if those trundlers with no discernable talent can get big money deals, then surely Shaheen will be one of the most expensive buys.

Especially considering that India is so desperate for left-armers that they seem to pick just about anyone who happens to bowl left-arm...regardless of how good they actually are. First it was Khaleel (rubbish bowler) now its Arshdeep (another rubbish bowler).

Yes they are worth more than a few crores because they are Indians. 17 Indians play in a squad and only 8 foreigners.

Rationality is that IPL teams pay big money for either Indians or the very cream of the international players, whose availability isn't suspect. Shaheen is a good bowler, but certainly not better than a Rabada or Jofra who get around 1 million.

Regarding talent and speed, well i will let the IPL teams decide on that and not you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

hence discrimination

In the world of Indian democracy

It’s not discrimination if India does it

Democracy doesn't mean you can't place restrictions on a hostile country. Pakistan is a hostile state and pakistanis support secession of Kashmir from India. So much so that they call the terrorists operating there a freedom fighters.

So they are not allowed to earn money from India.

Is this not simple to understand?

 

[Rana]

Democracy doesn't mean you can't place restrictions on a hostile country. Pakistan is a hostile state and pakistanis support secession of Kashmir from India. So much so that they call the terrorists operating there a freedom fighters.

So they are not allowed to earn money from India.

Is this not simple to understand?

Ah yes

Pakistan are restricted everywhere else in the world lol

Another Indian democracy thought

 

[cricketjoshila]

I'm guessing as per [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION], IPL will just pick up Pakistanis as foreign T20 players okk sir.

There are only 80 players they can pick and they have the whole world lining up.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Ah yes

Pakistan are restricted everywhere else in the world lol

Another Indian democracy thought

They are restricted in India.

 

[Rana]

They are restricted in India.

Worlds greatest democracy

 

[Rana]

There are only 80 players they can pick and they have the whole world lining up.

Yeah I guess Pakistani players are not worthy enough take the bread and butter of random Australian domestic picks and Tabraiz Shamsi

 

[Villager6964]

Democracy doesn't mean you can't place restrictions on a hostile country. Pakistan is a hostile state and pakistanis support secession of Kashmir from India. So much so that they call the terrorists operating there a freedom fighters.

So they are not allowed to earn money from India.

Is this not simple to understand?

Shut the heck up. We Muslims of jammu and kashmir don't want to be with India. Keep your mouth shut.

 

[Rana]

Shut the heck up. We Muslims of jammu and kashmir don't want to be with India. Keep your mouth shut.

Another Chittar on the face [MENTION=152959]hoshiarpurexpress[/MENTION]

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Shut the heck up. We Muslims of jammu and kashmir don't want to be with India. Keep your mouth shut.

The Sikhs and Hindus of Kashmir disagree with this. So you can shut it.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Another Chittar on the face [MENTION=152959]hoshiarpurexpress[/MENTION]

Really.. as a Sikh Indian is my only identity and I am proud of that.
Pakistan is a hostile state and will not get any economic benefits from India.

 

[Rana]

Yes pakistanis will get all the money, rest of the world is there to collect pennies.

While Shaheen will no doubt get good money, i dont see why he will get $2mn when Jofra gets 1mn or Rabada gets 1.1mn.

Second is Babar, thats a very fair estimation of his value.

Imad Wasim and Rizwan may get good money.


Rest i dont think anyone will get bids above their base prices.

Your own fellow Indian is saying Shaheen will go for that amount of money. Pakistani fast bowlers are always in demand, so they will get money whether you like it or not.

 

[Rana]

Really.. as a Sikh Indian is my only identity and I am proud of that.
Pakistan is a hostile state and will not get any economic benefits from India.

Last I know, Pakistan gets its share through BCCI contributions to ICC? What happens to hostile state garbage then?

Another one….

DJ Khaled

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ah yes

Pakistan are restricted everywhere else in the world lol

Another Indian democracy thought

Pakistan is involved in a secessionist and terrorist movement in which other country?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shut the heck up. We Muslims of jammu and kashmir don't want to be with India. Keep your mouth shut.

Take the next flight out of India. If you are in India that is.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan is involved in a secessionist and terrorist movement in which other country?

No country

This is a lie forged by India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Last I know, Pakistan gets its share through BCCI contributions to ICC? What happens to hostile state garbage then?

Another one….

DJ Khaled

BCCI controbutes to ICC. Not to PCB. What ICC does is not in India's control.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No country

This is a lie forged by India.

What is a lie?

Pakistan government officially supports secession of Kashmir from India. Pakistanis have been sanctioned by UN for terrorist activities in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your own fellow Indian is saying Shaheen will go for that amount of money. Pakistani fast bowlers are always in demand, so they will get money whether you like it or not.

He says a lot of things of YT.

I haven't seen a single pakistani bowler in the biggest league in te world for last 12-13 years.

There are quiet a few good fast bowlers in the world and Shaheen is one of them. No reason why he will get double of others.

 

[Rana]

BCCI controbutes to ICC. Not to PCB. What ICC does is not in India's control.

Lol. On one hand you have Indians here chest beating about Ramiz’s statement of BCCI and Indian media houses funding Pakistan through ICC contributions and on the other hand BJP spokespersons are adamant Pakistan will not get any financial benefit from India.

Make up your minds. Paisa hai. Na tera hua na mera…

 

[Rana]

What is a lie?

Pakistan government officially supports secession of Kashmir from India. Pakistanis have been sanctioned by UN for terrorist activities in India.

India were sanctioned by OIC for discrimination against athletes

Is hammam main sab hee nangay hain, mere dost

 

[Moeey]

Shaheen will get 1 mil

 

[cricketjoshila]

India were sanctioned by OIC for discrimination against athletes

Is hammam main sab hee nangay hain, mere dost

OIC sanctions India? OIC is related to sports?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shaheen will get 1 mil

Very likely.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol. On one hand you have Indians here chest beating about Ramiz’s statement of BCCI and Indian media houses funding Pakistan through ICC contributions and on the other hand BJP spokespersons are adamant Pakistan will not get any financial benefit from India.

Make up your minds. Paisa hai. Na tera hua na mera…

What is this BJP BJP you keep harping? As if any other party will come and restore relations.

Do you even know how many times bilateral tours have been suspended?

 

[Rana]

Democracy doesn't mean you can't place restrictions on a hostile country. Pakistan is a hostile state and pakistanis support secession of Kashmir from India. So much so that they call the terrorists operating there a freedom fighters.

So they are not allowed to earn money from India.

Is this not simple to understand?

Also, why is the stance on this not consistent continuously fluctuating? There is a hardline stance on Pakistani cricketers in the IPL but Pakistani artists are regularly being commissioned by Indian production houses and music promoters for their work? Salman Khan is one of the biggest annual pay day earners in India with his release on Eid, and he has to make sure that he had 1 Rahat Ali score in his movie. This has been happening for the past 6-7 years.

Why is Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis allowed to earn money from Star Utsav for the Asia cup commentary gig? They were also paid to work as coaches in the IPL whilst Pakistani’s were banned.

So tell us what is it? If your stance is so hardline and true, why is it clearly so inconsistent??

 

[cricketjoshila]

Also, why is the stance on this not consistent continuously fluctuating? There is a hardline stance on Pakistani cricketers in the IPL but Pakistani artists are regularly being commissioned by Indian production houses and music promoters for their work? Salman Khan is one of the biggest annual pay day earners in India with his release on Eid, and he has to make sure that he had 1 Rahat Ali score in his movie. This has been happening for the past 6-7 years.

Why is Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis allowed to earn money from Star Utsav for the Asia cup commentary gig? They were also paid to work as coaches in the IPL whilst Pakistani’s were banned.

So tell us what is it? If your stance is so hardline and true, why is it clearly so inconsistent??

Pakistanis are banned from working in Indian films for some years now. Some producers were going to UAE and recording songs. Even that has stopped. Why do you think Bollywood is giving flops after flops and facing boycott calls?

Which was the last movie of Salman which had a Rahat song?

What was the response to the last release of Salman?

Asia cup is run by ACC and Star is a Disney company.

Few pakistanis were coaching in India, that was also stopped in 2016, post Uri.

 

[TheNeutralist]

My understanding of the IPL market and the value of gaurenteed Pakistan picks (dollars)

1. Shaheen: $1.5m-$2m
2. Shadab: $800k-$1m
3. Babar: $300-500K
4. Harris Rauf: $100-200k
5. Hasnain: $80-120k
6. Naseem:$1m (big call. I think he will fetch that fee)
8. Asif Ali: $50-100k
9. Rizwan:$200-300k
10. Fakhar: $200k
11. Dahani: $50-100k

Anyone with experience from EPL would tell that the players from the home country will always be expensive. Further IPL has a limit of 4 foreign players per match.

 

[Rana]

Pakistanis are banned from working in Indian films for some years now. Some producers were going to UAE and recording songs. Even that has stopped. Why do you think Bollywood is giving flops after flops and facing boycott calls?

Which was the last movie of Salman which had a Rahat song?

What was the response to the last release of Salman?

Asia cup is run by ACC and Star is a Disney company.

Few pakistanis were coaching in India, that was also stopped in 2016, post Uri.

So it isn’t consistent is it?

 

[Villager6964]

Take the next flight out of India. If you are in India that is.

Kero India?? I m from Jammu and it's our place we have been living here for centuries. Kisi gi peo gi zameen ni ae.

This place is not India's or father of India.

This is our place we don't want to be with you muslims hating Indians. Just get the heck out of our state.

 

[Villager6964]

The Sikhs and Hindus of Kashmir disagree with this. So you can shut it.

Jammu and Kashmir is muslim majority state.

Some of the Sikhs don't like India as well. I used to study with Sikhs in the school.Hindus obviously want to be with India other than that

Majority muslims hate india with passion. As a gujjar myself we have Never liked India and never
will

During 1947 muslim Gujjars suffered the most. Our ancestors had to forced to be moved out of their house and they had to go to Pakistan ( how i wish they had settled in Pakistan)but they had everything here in Jammu.Cattle, land, homes, everything.

People like you whd

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Yes they are worth more than a few crores because they are Indians. 17 Indians play in a squad and only 8 foreigners.

Rationality is that IPL teams pay big money for either Indians or the very cream of the international players, whose availability isn't suspect. Shaheen is a good bowler, but certainly not better than a Rabada or Jofra who get around 1 million.

Regarding talent and speed, well i will let the IPL teams decide on that and not you.

Funny how you keep dodging the fact that they are garbage and would be lucky to get a contract in just about any other league in the world.

But yeah tell me about Unadkat was worth 12 crores

 

[happydavy]

Ashwin is smart. He knows the value of a Shaheen in a league where the Arshdeeps, Avesh Khans and Umran Maliks of the world are actually wicket-takers.

Shaheen perhaps would have been one of the top picks in IPL had he played but Ashwin is much smarter when it comes to commerce. He knows he's running a youtube channel and it gets valued based upon views so if PPers could become his audience and subscribers then even better for him.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Jammu and Kashmir is muslim majority state.

Some of the Sikhs don't like India as well. I used to study with Sikhs in the school.Hindus obviously want to be with India other than that

Majority muslims hate india with passion. As a gujjar myself we have Never liked India and never
will

During 1947 muslim Gujjars suffered the most. Our ancestors had to forced to be moved out of their house and they had to go to Pakistan ( how i wish they had settled in Pakistan)but they had everything here in Jammu.Cattle, land, homes, everything.

People like you whd

I live 90 kms from Lahore on the Indian side.
My grandparents lived in Lahore and escaped a day before 15 August 1947, on the partition horror Remembrance Day. You may hate whatever, don’t generalise it for rest of us.

 

[Moeey]

Kero India?? I m from Jammu and it's our place we have been living here for centuries. Kisi gi peo gi zameen ni ae.

This place is not India's or father of India.

This is our place we don't want to be with you muslims hating Indians. Just get the heck out of our state.

Jammu people are really nice. Hope everything works out for you guys.

 

[happydavy]

Kero India?? I m from Jammu and it's our place we have been living here for centuries. Kisi gi peo gi zameen ni ae.

This place is not India's or father of India.

This is our place we don't want to be with you muslims hating Indians. Just get the heck out of our state.

Here comes the keyboard warrior! You felt good and brave after ranting anonymously on a website? Good for you. Now grow some gends and try saying that to 84% Hindus (by population) living in Jammu.