Shaheen Shah Afridi and Haider Ali to miss out on lucrative County deals

[Saj]

Shaheen Shah Afridi will lose nearly £100K by not being able to play for Hampshire in the T20 Blast in 2021 due to the rearrangement of PSL6.

In addition, a County were keen to sign Haider also for the T20 Blast this season, but he will not be able to sign that deal, once again due to the postponement of the PSL and re-arranging the matches in June.

 

[Titan24]

Unfortunate but I believe these things do happen in a cricketer's career and especially if we consider the current world scenario where many sportsmen as well as professionals form different field had to adjust and potentially miss out on contracts which they would have been able to in a normal world.

They both are pretty young so I am sure they are going to get many such opportunities going forward.

 

[Saj]

At best, Haider might get recruited to play a few matches in the T20 Blast after the PSL.

 

[Titan24]

At best, Haider might get recruited to play a few matches in the T20 Blast after the PSL.

I think even a few matches in the blast this year would be good for his overall cricketing exposure. Hopefully he can keep working on his game as there will be quite a few contracts coming his way in coming years.

 

[BigShak]

Another blessing in disguise. These two need more 4 day cricket then T20 to help their development.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Did Kohli and Sharma play these useless leagues when they were of Haider's age?

There in is your answer on why there is a difference in player development between India and Pakistan.

 

[ElRaja]

lol, psl in june in lahore, everyone gonna melt, cant rem last time pak played a "home" series of any length in june.

Another blessing in disguise. These two need more 4 day cricket then T20 to help their development.

but there not playing 4 day, they just playing different variety of t20.

 

[gazza619]

Surprised to hear that counties are interested in Haider. The guy has done nothing at all if I am brutally honest except for a few cute low scores.

 

[world cup captain]

Did Kohli and Sharma play these useless leagues when they were of Haider's age?

There in is your answer on why there is a difference in player development between India and Pakistan.

Sharma and Kohli have BCCI to fill their pockets. What our players make in a lifetime, Kohli probably makes that is a month and then some. The best our players can hope is to get a couple of small contracts and make the most of it.

We continue to hear there is loads of talent in Pakistan but the real worry is the inability to develop the talent. Pakistan was a top team in the '90s and 2000s because cricket was developing into a more scientific front. Now that the top teams have transformed, we're still sitting in the '90s hoping to pluck out world-class players from the streets.

 

[ataullah]

Shaheen Shah Afridi will lose nearly £100K by not being able to play for Hampshire in the T20 Blast in 2021 due to the rearrangement of PSL6.

In addition, a County were keen to sign Haider also for the T20 Blast this season, but he will not be able to sign that deal, once again due to the postponement of the PSL and re-arranging the matches in June.

If he misses a week surely he won't loose the contract??? He can be available for 90%of the games. PSL will only be 2/3 weeks unless there will be no double headers

 

[Saj]

If he misses a week surely he won't loose the contract??? He can be available for 90%of the games. PSL will only be 2/3 weeks unless there will be no double headers

You've got the PSL tournament and the County side will take into account him playing in the ODI series and T20I series against England.

That could be a decent chunk of the tournament.

 

[Markhor]

Another blessing in disguise. These two need more 4 day cricket then T20 to help their development.

Yep, last thing these two need is yet more white ball cricket. In Shaheen's case most of his FC matches are Tests.

 

[Suleiman]

They need to have a chat with PCB superiors and find a way to go to England anyway. An amazing opportunity to invest in themselves long term and be paid for what they deserve. 100% find any loophole possible to still go. This circus league will always be here to come back to, it doesn’t matter. Shouldn’t be limited in your career because of the mistakes of the clown board you play for not being able to keep the bio secure bubble intact.

 

[ChTab]

Did Kohli and Sharma play these useless leagues when they were of Haider's age?

There in is your answer on why there is a difference in player development between India and Pakistan.

Basically, BCCI doesn't allow any Indian player to play in any league around the world.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Basically, BCCI doesn't allow any Indian player to play in any league around the world.

And they all play domestic cricket instead and in the off season, work on their strength and conditioning as well as their technique. No wonder their players progress and become better over time.

Our players skip domestic cricket, and waste their off season on these leagues instead of going into the NHPC to iron out their flaws and work on their physical conditioning.

 

[shaz619]

And they all play domestic cricket instead and in the off season, work on their strength and conditioning as well as their technique. No wonder their players progress and become better over time.

Our players skip domestic cricket, and waste their off season on these leagues instead of going into the NHPC to iron out their flaws and work on their physical conditioning.

Likes of Shaheen and Haider will miss out from a financial perspective, they don't get a slice of the IPL cake; the Indian players are more then compensated for not playing in other leagues around the world. While individual development is important, there's a World T20 on the horizon and beyond that, if the desire is there, there should be enough time for you to work on your flaws in between the cricket you have to play

 

[Ellipsism]

The Blast is a rubbish competition anyways. Unless the players were going to play FC games and thereby having access to quality coaches, there's no need for them to be playing.

 

[Giannis]

The Blast is a rubbish competition anyways. Unless the players were going to play FC games and thereby having access to quality coaches, there's no need for them to be playing.

Rubbish or not, gotta feel for Shaheen losing 100 bandz. Money doesn't grow on trees and it's those irresponsible owners and cricketers that jeopardize the earnings of other cricketers.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Likes of Shaheen and Haider will miss out from a financial perspective, they don't get a slice of the IPL cake; the Indian players are more then compensated for not playing in other leagues around the world. While individual development is important, there's a World T20 on the horizon and beyond that, if the desire is there, there should be enough time for you to work on your flaws in between the cricket you have to play

They are in their development phase, and money shouldn't be there priority right now.

They are young, already earn very well for their age and will get plenty of opportunities in the coming years to make most of their earning opportunities.

 

[Rana]

Maybe seek compensation from Javed Afridi?

 

[NoBallZombie]

Maybe seek compensation from Javed Afridi?

yup the franchises should recompense these guys. It is rather harsh. I would be gutted if were to miss out on this much money.

 

[mastimasti]

Shaheen Shah Afridi will lose nearly £100K by not being able to play for Hampshire in the T20 Blast in 2021 due to the rearrangement of PSL6.

In addition, a County were keen to sign Haider also for the T20 Blast this season, but he will not be able to sign that deal, once again due to the postponement of the PSL and re-arranging the matches in June.

100K for English T20 blast??? Really?

I had no idea that was the pay. That is incredibly high.

 

[Titan24]

100K for English T20 blast??? Really?

I had no idea that was the pay. That is incredibly high.

Shaheen is one of the best white ball bowlers in the world currently otherwise as per my understanding pays for majority of the overseas players in T20 blast dont touch this scale.

 

[hashimafzal]

They are in their development phase, and money shouldn't be there priority right now.

They are young, already earn very well for their age and will get plenty of opportunities in the coming years to make most of their earning opportunities.

They are professionals in their field and have every right to take whatever opportunity comes their way.

In sports nothing is guaranteed. Your body can only handle so many years at peak performance before it starts to decline.

Today the 100k is there on the table, what if tomorrow (God forbid) Shaheen suffers an injury and his career needs to come to an end?

What happens to his financial situation then?

 

[Mamoon]

Maybe seek compensation from Javed Afridi?

He should seek compensation from PCB. The incompetent and clueless leadership of Wasim and Mani is the reason why Shaheen is missing out on all the £££.

 

[Slim]

100K for English T20 blast??? Really?

I had no idea that was the pay. That is incredibly high.

Not much for the best young fast bowler in the world.

 

[Mamoon]

Haider needs to stay away from T20 cricket for now. If he makes T20 cricket his prime focus over the next 3-4 years, he will ruin himself and turn into another Imran Nazir.

He should only play PSL and focus on FC cricket.

Shaheen should play in all these leagues because he needs to play regularly to maintain his rhythm.

He is fit and young, this obsession with managing his workload is overstated.

 

[Giannis]

Haider needs to stay away from T20 cricket for now. If he makes T20 cricket his prime focus over the next 3-4 years, he will ruin himself and turn into another Imran Nazir.

He should only play PSL and focus on FC cricket.

Shaheen should play in all these leagues because he needs to play regularly to maintain his rhythm.

He is fit and young, this obsession with managing his workload is overstated.

Then he needs to be compensated for lost income

 

[Mamoon]

Then he needs to be compensated for lost income

Yes PCB should. The incompetence and weak leadership of Wasim and Mani is the reason why he has missed out on some seriously good money.

 

[ChTab]

100K for English T20 blast??? Really?

I had no idea that was the pay. That is incredibly high.

I think this amount is for The 100 tournament. Don't think county teams can pay this much that too for just a T20 season.

 

[ChTab]

Haider needs to stay away from T20 cricket for now. If he makes T20 cricket his prime focus over the next 3-4 years, he will ruin himself and turn into another Imran Nazir.

He should only play PSL and focus on FC cricket.

Shaheen should play in all these leagues because he needs to play regularly to maintain his rhythm.

He is fit and young, this obsession with managing his workload is overstated.

Completely agree, Haider needs to focus on FC cricket it would be great if he could get a county stint for the FC cricket.

 

[Major]

Did Kohli and Sharma play these useless leagues when they were of Haider's age?

There in is your answer on why there is a difference in player development between India and Pakistan.

Yes, kohli was playing in ipl when it first started. And he was being hyped soo much eveb then

 

[last_knight]

SSA needs a break.

 

[JattMaula]

Hampshire sure are a rich club!

100k pounds salary is a lot.

 

[silentkiller187]

players have been paid 70-80k in the past for a few months work at the vitality blast so 100k for one of the worlds top ranking bowlers shouldn't be too surprising.

 

[King_Kohli]

£100K for one season is good amount.
Normally how much the will pay to kolpak cricketers?

 

[Rana]

I remember Hampshire had a £60k (4 month season) contract with Sharjeel Khan before he was banned.

Every county has a sizeable amount to pay its overseas player allotment.

 

[King_Kohli]

I remember Hampshire had a £60k (4 month season) contract with Sharjeel Khan before he was banned.

Every county has a sizeable amount to pay its overseas player allotment.

What about UK tax? flat 50%?

 

[Rana]

What about UK tax? flat 50%?

I don’t remember what was the tax band back then but I believe he only pays 20% income tax from £25-40k and an extra 40% on top of anything you earn from the £50k upwards.

I doubt he had to pay national insurance and pension schemes, maybe an NHS cover fee but I believe the county takes care of that.

He would be pulling around £40-45k from that £60k

 

[silentkiller187]

£100K for one season is good amount.
Normally how much the will pay to kolpak cricketers?

The decent kolpak players make good money, for example Duane Olivier was reportedly on around £150k for the season, reason why so many leave SA behind. Even the average ones can earn around 90-100k if they play their cards right.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Yes, kohli was playing in ipl when it first started. And he was being hyped soo much eveb then

I am not objecting about a player featuring in his home t20 league.
I am talking about them playing every other tamasha league instead of focusing on off season work.

How many t20 leagues was Kohli playing aside from the IPL?

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

They are professionals in their field and have every right to take whatever opportunity comes their way.

In sports nothing is guaranteed. Your body can only handle so many years at peak performance before it starts to decline.

Today the 100k is there on the table, what if tomorrow (God forbid) Shaheen suffers an injury and his career needs to come to an end?

What happens to his financial situation then?

These leagues are counterproductive for Haider.
If he is a smart "professional" then he will know how to plan his career.
He seriously needs time to work on his basics and playing this slam bang verson of cricket during this stage of his career as a batsman will make his flaws permanent.

 

[Hasan123]

No big deal. Playing first class cricket is more important for their development than T20s.

 

[silentkiller187]

I am not objecting about a player featuring in his home t20 league.
I am talking about them playing every other tamasha league instead of focusing on off season work.

How many t20 leagues was Kohli playing aside from the IPL?

He is not allowed to play in any leagues other than IPL, i can bet he would have made an appearance at the vitality and bbl if he was allowed, just to develop himself.

 

[Major]

I am not objecting about a player featuring in his home t20 league.
I am talking about them playing every other tamasha league instead of focusing on off season work.

How many t20 leagues was Kohli playing aside from the IPL?

You do know that BCCI does not give permission to anyone of the indian players to play in leagues as they view the leagues as competitors ?

 

[Major]

I remember Hampshire had a £60k (4 month season) contract with Sharjeel Khan before he was banned.

Every county has a sizeable amount to pay its overseas player allotment.

makes you think, these players that fix around, is it really worth it?

 

[silentkiller187]

makes you think, these players that fix around, is it really worth it?

if we could offer our players anything remotely close to this it would be a start to deter players

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

He is not allowed to play in any leagues other than IPL, i can bet he would have made an appearance at the vitality and bbl if he was allowed, just to develop himself.

Lol, there isnt a higher t20 competition out there than the IPL. Why will he ned a cheaper league to develop himself?

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

You do know that BCCI does not give permission to anyone of the indian players to play in leagues as they view the leagues as competitors ?

Which is the point itself. Glad you were finally able to get to that.
This is why their players go from strength to strength because they have a lot of off-season work done on them, which ultimately makes them better players.

A young batsman with loose basics but who has tremendous potential to be an all format player should not be wasting his time playing these leagues.
For guys like Haider, this is the time to pay the dues and not to reap rewards.

 

[silentkiller187]

Lol, there isnt a higher t20 competition out there than the IPL. Why will he ned a cheaper league to develop himself?

Higher in what sense moneywise yes, cricketing wise its objective.. Kohli is the type of player that wants to test himself, even if it meant going and acclimatizing to the conditions before say a world cup, he did try nd go and play county cricket with Surrey before his injury.

 

[silentkiller187]

Which is the point itself. Glad you were finally able to get to that.
This is why their players go from strength to strength because they have a lot of off-season work done on them, which ultimately makes them better players.

A young batsman with loose basics but who has tremendous potential to be an all format player should not be wasting his time playing these leagues.
For guys like Haider, this is the time to pay the dues and not to reap rewards.

Ok that policy is all well and good in principle but how many T20 has india won since IPL was created, i wouldn't call it strength to strength? west indies whos players play in every pyjama party league going, how many have they won?

 

[Rana]

makes you think, these players that fix around, is it really worth it?

This is why I originally doubted Sharjeel Khan's inclusion in any fixing at the time, and I am still doubtful that he did do anything suspicious besides not reporting an approach made to him.

I was under the impression that Sharjeel Khan at that time of his career was well set to become one of the highest grossing earners in Pakistan cricketers history because he was really starting to pull in the big bucks as a T20 franchise cricket opener. His stocks were very high at the time. Or maybe he became greedy..I cant be sure tbh

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Ok that policy is all well and good in principle but how many T20 has india won since IPL was created, i wouldn't call it strength to strength? west indies whos players play in every pyjama party league going, how many have they won?

Is t20 the only format out there?
What is India's ranking in tests, odi's and t20's? What have their recent performances on overseas tours been like?
What kind of growth have their players demonstrated over the last decade or so?

Why is it that pacers like Ishant, Shami and Yadav who were branded as mediocre a decade ago, are now touted as part of one of the best bowling attacks in the world?

Now once you get valid answers for all these questions, go and compare them with how they compare with the results of the West Indies teams in the last 3,4 years.

 

[silentkiller187]

Is t20 the only format out there?
What is India's ranking in tests, odi's and t20's? What have their recent performances on overseas tours been like?
What kind of growth have their players demonstrated over the last decade or so?

Why is it that pacers like Ishant, Shami and Yadav who were branded as mediocre a decade ago, are now touted as part of one of the best bowling attacks in the world?

Now once you get valid answers for all these questions, go and compare them with how they compare with the results of the West Indies teams in the last 3,4 years.

sorry i thought we were discussing IPL and its superiority over other leagues, all there is to show from it is a boosted economy which is good enough and kudos to india for achieving this but when it comes to wt20 titles then 0 since IPL was created, would have been better of sticking with cheaper leagues.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Higher in what sense moneywise yes, cricketing wise its objective.. Kohli is the type of player that wants to test himself, even if it meant going and acclimatizing to the conditions before say a world cup, he did try nd go and play county cricket with Surrey before his injury.

Barring Pakistani ones, all the best players in the world play the IPL, and hence the league is the best in the world in terms of cricketing quality. There is no question about that.

On acclimatisation; well, signing up for a 4 day county assignment is totally different to playing a t20 tournament because T20's are generally played in flat conditions the world over.

So travelling abroad to taste another t20 league, serves no learning curve for a guy like Kohli who already has a plethora of international experience in those conditions.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

sorry i thought we were discussing IPL and its superiority over other leagues, all there is to show from it is a boosted economy which is good enough and kudos to india for achieving this but when it comes to wt20 titles then 0 since IPL was created, would have been better of sticking with cheaper leagues.

Then you haven't comprehended my posts well.

I was arguing on the case that Indian cricketers do better than the lower ranked nations because their players dont participate in every other league out there, and rather use that time constructively by not only playing more first class cricket, but also working on their fitness and skills in the off season.

This is a vital component for cricketers if they are to get better over time We see this with the Australians as well who are part of the national set up.
In comparison our cricketers generally stay the same and if not, regress over time because they have a myopic mentality, where they will sign up for each and every other league instead of prioritizing off-season preparation.

 

[silentkiller187]

Barring Pakistani ones, all the best players in the world play the IPL, and hence the league is the best in the world in terms of cricketing quality. There is no question about that.

On acclimatisation; well, signing up for a 4 day county assignment is totally different to playing a t20 tournament because T20's are generally played in flat conditions the world over.

So travelling abroad to taste another t20 league, serves no learning curve for a guy like Kohli who already has a plethora of international experience in those conditions.

if you think Indian players would not play in another league if they had the choice then your deluded. Best players play in all the leagues, 2 of the top 5 footballers in the world you could say play for Paris, does that make the french league the best in the world ? The only real narrative or measure of success for a countries league is on the development and performance local players, all the stars are just there to party and for the showbiz., if ipl is so good why cant india win a wt20 since it was created simple question.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

if you think Indian players would not play in another league if they had the choice then your deluded. Best players play in all the leagues, 2 of the top 5 footballers in the world you could say play for Paris, does that make the french league the best in the world ? The only real narrative or measure of success for a countries league is on the development and performance local players, all the stars are just there to party and for the showbiz., if ipl is so good why cant india win a wt20 since it was created simple question.

It is not just the IPL, but rather the culture and coaching in the grassroots that is the difference.

The IPL is great from the perspective that it gives their players so much money that they have financial security to the point where they dont have to look at other options even if the BCCI did allow them to play other leagues.

They may not have won a t20 world cup, and I put that down to Kohli's inadequacies as a tactician, but overall it is glaringly obvious that Indian cricket has improved exponentially.
Had Rohit been in charge, with the amount of quality articles (not talent) available to India, they really should have won the last few global tournaments.

 

[Varun]

The Blast is a rubbish competition anyways. Unless the players were going to play FC games and thereby having access to quality coaches, there's no need for them to be playing.

This. It's more about the loss of money than the opportunity to learn any new cricket skills.

 

[Mueez]

No worries. There will be more opportunities for them to make money in the future.

 

[Bewal Express]

The experience would have been invaluable for HA. Afridi needs a break, he is playing too much. He should not be going to SA, just play the tests and rest

 

[shamaan]

The experience would have been invaluable for HA. Afridi needs a break, he is playing too much. He should not be going to SA, just play the tests and rest

With the psl postponed i belive he would have had enough rest but i stil think the zimbabwe series he should be rested or rotated to try out other players

 

[shamaan]

Both shaheen and haider will get plenty of opportunities to play around the world in domestic competitions so no big deal

 

[Bilal7]

I saw this and my first reaction was that it is a disaster. However, with WT20s coming up, T20 cricket has become more important than First Class cricket.