Shamima Begum: IS bride 'given legal aid' for citizenship fight [Update Post #174]

[Gabbar Singh]

Quite ironic that 'His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad' is making calls on who is and isn't practising Islam.

Senior Muslim leader: Muslim country should adopt IS bride Shamima Begum

A top Muslim leader says the IS bride is "not practising Islam" but should be shown sympathy and adopted by a Muslim country.

One of the world's top Muslim leaders has called on Muslim countries to "adopt" Islamic State bride Shamima Begum following the cancellation of her British citizenship.

His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the Caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community, said: "She claims herself to be Muslim so then a Muslim country should show sympathy to her.

"If the British government has stripped her of her nationality, then another country should adopt her, any Muslim country."

He also put pressure on Bangladesh, who have so far refused to grant the 19-year-old a home, saying: "Since her parents were from Bangladesh, the first duty is of Bangladesh to take her as a national."

Shamima Begum went to Syria to join Islamic State as a 15-year-old school girl and married a Dutch fighter shortly after her arrival.

Home Secretary Sajid Javid stripped her of her British citizenship, leaving her stateless pending any appeal, and living in a refugee camp in Syria.

Her infant son, named Jarrah, died on Friday - two days after being taken to hospital with breathing difficulties.

The leader said it was only right for her to face trial, should she be allowed to return to the UK.

He told Sky News: "When this issue started I said at the time I thought she should be allowed to come to this country [the UK] for the sake of the child and the woman should face trial.

"Unfortunately it is said the child has expired now and it is up to the government now since they have cancelled the passport and citizenship."

He refused to cast blame on Mr Javid, who has been accused of not doing enough to prevent the death of the infant.

He said: "I don't want to blame anyone - what was her fate has happened. It is up to the fate of God."

Asked by Sky News whether Shamima Begum is a poor reflection on Muslims, he said: "Islam never says you should commit such brutalities which is being done by Daesh... if she says she is Muslim then she is - but she is not practising Islam."

The Muslim leader made the comments ahead of his keynote speech at the International Peace Symposium at south London's Baitul Futuh Mosque, one of Europe's biggest mosques.

Human rights lawyer and spokesperson for the Ahmadiyya UK Muslim community Khalil Yousuf told Sky News that the government should have acted with more compassion.

He said: "The reality is the child was a British citizen.

"Mr Javid's decision appears to be a populist decision.

"It is tragic that another innocent child has lost its life and every humane person will feel sympathy for that child.

"Our position has always been that if Shamima Begum has broken laws, she should be brought before the courts here.

"Because she had a child, the British government should have been more humanitarian in their approach… we are a democratic country with laws and regulations."

Mr Javid was widely criticised by politicians, charity representatives and others on Saturday.

Speaking to Sky News, Dal Babu, a friend of Shamima Begum's family and former chief superintendent with the Metropolitan Police, said: "The death is a tragic thing and I think it's totally avoidable."

"We failed Shamima in making sure we were able to safeguard her from the vile organisation of Islamic State and I don't think anybody I know supports Islamic State so for her to support that organisation, go out there, leave a safe country shows how she was brainwashed," he added.

"So we've failed her and now we've failed the child."

Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott joined the criticism, saying: "The tragic death of Shamima Begum's baby, Jarrah, is a stain on the conscience of this government… the home secretary failed this British child and he has a lot to answer for."

However, Conservative MP Andrea Leadsom, who is leader of the House of Commons, defended her colleague, saying: "It is absolutely tragic that a baby has died and of course I understand this is a really terrible problem.

"But on the other hand, the job of the home secretary is to protect all the people in the United Kingdom.

"He will have had advice on what was the right thing to do and I totally support his decision."

Following news of Jarrah's death, a UK government spokesman said: "The death of any child is tragic and deeply distressing for the family.

"The Foreign and Commonwealth Office has consistently advised against travel to Syria since April 2011.

"The government will continue to do whatever we can to prevent people from being drawn into terrorism and travelling to dangerous conflict zones."

https://news.sky.com/story/senior-m...-should-adopt-is-bride-shamima-begum-11660361

 

[GenericBrand]

She's already in a Muslim country lol

 

[Stewie]

I am not defending her actions, but if she is a british citizen, under which law is her citizenship revoked? How can you simply take away a person’s citizenship of a nation without any trial or without allowing one to defend oneself?

 

[Stewie]

Quite ironic that 'His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad' is making calls on who is and isn't practising Islam.

Him and his sect are not even considered Muslims by Pakistan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I am not defending her actions, but if she is a british citizen, under which law is her citizenship revoked? How can you simply take away a person’s citizenship of a nation without any trial or without allowing one to defend oneself?

The Uncle Tom egghead Javid broke the law. He assumed she had Bangaldeshi nationality too but she did not. The girl is crazy and I have no sympathy for anyone who leaves the UK to join ISIS which are a proxy evil cult. She has not only embarrased her nation but Muslims and Islam too.

However her baby was innocent and could have lived if it wasnt for Javid. The guy is a low life scumbag.

As for the article posted, Mirza is no leader of Muslims. lol.

 

[gazza619]

Quite ironic that 'His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad' is making calls on who is and isn't practising Islam.

Agreed to be honest, Bangladesh should have adopted her. But then her parents are in the UK.

It is a disgusting act by both UK and Bangladesh towards a child.

 

[Stewie]

The Uncle Tom egghead Javid broke the law. He assumed she had Bangaldeshi nationality too but she did not. The girl is crazy and I have no sympathy for anyone who leaves the UK to join ISIS which are a proxy evil cult. She has not only embarrased her nation but Muslims and Islam too.

However her baby was innocent and could have lived if it wasnt for Javid. The guy is a low life scumbag.

As for the article posted, Mirza is no leader of Muslims. lol.

Its ridiculous that he is being considered a “Muslim” leader when his followers refuse to pray with 99% of other actual Muslims in an actual Muslim mosque.

But staying on topic, who is Javid and what did he do? How can one guy single handedly declare someone is not British?

I feel bad for her dead kids. I feel the last one could have been saved. No sypmathy for her though. If she continues to say she did the right thing, they should have extradited her and charged her with partnering with ISIS.

Will the UK government have done the same if it was a white underage boy or girl who had done something like it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Its ridiculous that he is being considered a “Muslim” leader when his followers refuse to pray with 99% of other actual Muslims in an actual Muslim mosque.

But staying on topic, who is Javid and what did he do? How can one guy single handedly declare someone is not British?

I feel bad for her dead kids. I feel the last one could have been saved. No sypmathy for her though. If she continues to say she did the right thing, they should have extradited her and charged her with partnering with ISIS.

Will the UK government have done the same if it was a white underage boy or girl who had done something like it?

Sajid Javid is the home secetary of the UK. His job is domestic policies including laws of the land. He is an uncle Tom who is out to impress the right wing leaders of his party which are in government at present. He has the power to rule on issues which are new or to uphold the law of the land in special cases.

No the UK has not done the same. There is a chap known as 'Jihadi Jack' who is white and wants to come home. Although he hasn't returned as of yet, his citizenship hasnt been taken off him even though he could possibly have dual nationality with Canada.

 

[Robert]

Its ridiculous that he is being considered a “Muslim” leader when his followers refuse to pray with 99% of other actual Muslims in an actual Muslim mosque.

But staying on topic, who is Javid and what did he do? How can one guy single handedly declare someone is not British?

I feel bad for her dead kids. I feel the last one could have been saved. No sypmathy for her though. If she continues to say she did the right thing, they should have extradited her and charged her with partnering with ISIS.

Will the UK government have done the same if it was a white underage boy or girl who had done something like it?

Don’t know but the U.K. has allowed 200 jihadis to return already.

I agree with KKWC - Javid is playing to the right wing crowd, trying to look tough in a bid to be PM.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two more ISIS brides have been stripped of their British citizenship <a href="https://t.co/z7fXySnF50">https://t.co/z7fXySnF50</a></p>— Daily Mail U.K. (@DailyMailUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1104671244354576384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoever wrote this headline about a dead baby needs to hang their heads in shame. Shame on you <a href="https://twitter.com/MetroUK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MetroUK</a> Have a heart. Have a brain. Have some common human decency. <a href="https://t.co/ZL14YX2wQR">https://t.co/ZL14YX2wQR</a></p>— Maajid - (Mājid) [maːʤɪd] ماجد (@MaajidNawaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1105158865388298240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Stewie]

Don’t know but the U.K. has allowed 200 jihadis to return already.

I agree with KKWC - Javid is playing to the right wing crowd, trying to look tough in a bid to be PM.

So what happened in her case?

I am not saying let them back Willy nilly... but have a due process... indict them after extradition. You cant just dust your hands off your citizens and say “your problem now, since we have disowned him/her”

I dont think any civilized country in the world does that.

 

[saeedhk]

Good on the UK to strip the nationalities of these clowns.

Three years back, I remember a British ISIS Jihadi complaining about a lack of corn flakes and hot water in Syria on Twitter.

 

[Abdullah719]

Shamima Begum: IS bride 'given legal aid' for citizenship fight

Legal aid has been granted for Shamima Begum - who joined the Islamic State group aged 15 - to fight the decision to revoke her UK citizenship.

The 19-year-old, who left east London in 2015, was stripped of her citizenship in February, after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp.

Her family has previously said it planned to challenge the decision.

Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said the Legal Aid Agency's decision to assist Ms Begum made him "very uncomfortable".

Legal aid is financial assistance provided by the taxpayer to those unable to afford legal representation themselves, whether they are accused of a crime or a victim who seeks the help of a lawyer through the court process.

It is means-tested and availability has been cut back significantly in recent years.

The legal aid that has been granted covers a case before the semi-secret Special Immigration Appeals Commission, which adjudicates on cases where the home secretary has stripped someone of their nationality on grounds of national security.

Cases before the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac) are among the most complicated legal challenges that the government can face.

This is because they typically involve a complex combination of MI5 intelligence reports, which cannot be disclosed to the complainant, and long-standing law on achieving a fair hearing.

It is not yet clear when the case will be heard but the Siac process can take years to complete - and granting of legal aid in these circumstances is not unusual.

Over the last decade or so there have been many other people stripped of nationality on the basis they are linked to terrorism who have been legally-aided during the SIAC process.

Ms Begum was found in a Syrian refugee camp in February and said she wanted to return home.

Soon afterwards, she gave birth to a boy called Jarrah. He died of pneumonia in March at less than three weeks of age. She had two other children who also died.

In the wake of the boy's death, Home Secretary Sajid Javid was criticised over the decision to strip Ms Begum of her British citizenship.

On Monday, the Daily Mail first reported that legal aid had been granted in response to an application made on 19 March.

Mr Javid said the granting of legal aid was a decision for legal aid organisations and it was "not for ministers to comment".

Tory MP Philip Davies told the Mail the decision was "absolutely disgusting".

He said: "How she has been allowed to sponge off taxpayers' money to get back into a country that she hates is absolutely ridiculous."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47934721