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Sharjeel, Babar, Haris, Sarfraz and Imad from #2 to #6 - Will this improve the ODI team?

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2.Sharjeel seems to be finding his feet
3.Babar looks like he be might be the backbone of this line up
4.Haris is back at the NCA and trying to make a comeback
5.Sarfraz is looking really good
6.Imad can be promoted, adds the necessary balance

With CT'17 at the next door, will this team improve?
 
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Babar should open with Sharjeel. Haris at 3. 3 best batsmen should bat in the top 3
 
Babar should open with Sharjeel. Haris at 3. 3 best batsmen should bat in the top 3

Babar is far too valuable to be exposed to the new ball first up. He has also found his groove at number 3, why fix something that is not broken.

Better would be to find a suitable partner for Sharjeel and not somebody who struggles to even rotate the strike.
 
I will still go with Malik at #6.
He is experienced and can play a little t20 during the final overs.
Needless to mention he played t20 all over the world.
 
Babar should open with Sharjeel. Haris at 3. 3 best batsmen should bat in the top 3

Babar is your best batsman and he seems to be perfectly apt for one down. .no need to tweak it. .he will surely be top 5 batters in a year or two in odi's
 
2.Sharjeel seems to be finding his feet
3.Babar looks like he be might be the backbone of this line up
4.Haris is back at the NCA and trying to make a comeback
5.Sarfraz is looking really good
6.Imad can be promoted, adds the necessary balance

With CT'17 at the next door, will this team improve?

Imad is not a good enough batsman for number 6, he does the job at number 7. At 6 we need somebody who is a proper batsman first and can roll his arm over when required.

Umar Amin would have been the ideal guy for this role, but he never developed into anything. I don't think there are many upcoming youngsters who could fill this all-important role. Remember number 6 is probably your most important guy in the line-up after number 3. On some days he would have the responsibility of digging you out of a hole when your are 40/4 and other days he would have to score at 8-9 rpo to finish a chase.
 
Can I be the party pooper and share the good news of Kami returning to ODI cricket !!!!!


:facepalm:
 
Azhar is captain and will be captain. He is playing well as a batsman too. :azhar2 Malik is batting well also. [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] is right about the #6 role. It is very important. That is the only position that failed for us in the last series. Rizwan struggled to perform. Umar Akmal can play that role. I remember him getting us from 100-6 to like 250-9 vs Afghanistan. He won't have to rebuild that much which is perfect for him. So to answer OP's question, the order should be: Sharjeel, Azhar, Azam, Malik, U. Akmal, Imad. Hopefully we can find a good pace-bowling-all-rounder soon.
 
Azhar is captain and will be captain. He is playing well as a batsman too. :azhar2 Malik is batting well also. [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] is right about the #6 role. It is very important. That is the only position that failed for us in the last series. Rizwan struggled to perform. Umar Akmal can play that role. I remember him getting us from 100-6 to like 250-9 vs Afghanistan. He won't have to rebuild that much which is perfect for him. So to answer OP's question, the order should be: Sharjeel, Azhar, Azam, Malik, U. Akmal, Imad. Hopefully we can find a good pace-bowling-all-rounder soon.

So you'll replace Sarfraz who consistently contributed good runs in the England ODIs because Umar Akmal once hit a 100 against Afghanistan? :danish Come on now...
 
So you'll replace Sarfraz who consistently contributed good runs in the England ODIs because Umar Akmal once hit a 100 against Afghanistan? :danish Come on now...

Oh sorry forgot Sarfraz. :sarf He is good at 5. Umar was in the squad for the last series so he should get a go in the Australia ODIs. The worrying thing is that Umar played like crap in BPL.
 
Sohail hasn't played competitive cricket in 1.5 years- any dream of him being a no. 3 bat against top competition is a total pipe dream for now

Azhar is still a huge hole- totally 1-dimensional bat who get outs whenever he tries to increase his SR beyond 70

On the bright side, Sharjeel, Azam, Sarfraz, Imad are looking great- that's the backbone of the team

Malik is a decent contributor for now, Akmal and Rizwan are on the outside looking in. I'm happy with that
 
Haris sohail HAS to be there in ODIs and Tests. In tests he will be Pakistan's best batsman especially overseas. In ODIs he will be second to only babar. Its a shame he got injured, he was developing into a tremendous ODI player.

I would say babar at 3 and haris at 4 is perfect. Both reliable and can play long innings. But at 5 Pakistan needs someone who can score sixes and fours if the need arises as well as play sensibly if early wickets fall. Someone in the mould of a raina or duminy. Sarfaraz isnt that guy. Neither is imad. They aren't reliable hitters. Sarfaraz is such an unwanted batsman in the line up. He is suited at number 4 but there are better batsmen available.

Lack of a reliable lower order hitter is holding Pakistan back from becoming a good ODI team.
 
Oh sorry forgot Sarfraz. :sarf He is good at 5. Umar was in the squad for the last series so he should get a go in the Australia ODIs. The worrying thing is that Umar played like crap in BPL.

Umar akmal is never in form or out of form. Infact none of Pakistani batsmen ever are. So dont worry.
 
Sharjeel, Azhar, Babar, Harris, Sarfraz, and Akmal should be the top 6 for Pakistan for now. Need a fast bowling all-rounder, probably Aamir Yamin, to bat at #7. Imad as a spin bowling all-rounder is fine at #8.
 
1-Sharjeel Khan
2-Umar AKmal
3-Babar Azam
4-Haris sohail
5-Sarfaraz Ahmed (c)(wk)
6-Shoaib Malik
7-Aamer Yamin
8-Imad Wasim
9-Ammad Butt
10-Muhammad Amir
11-Wahab Riaz/Hassan Ali/Junaid Khan

This would be a great playing eleven...
 
Shoaib Malik makes the cut too for me. He's been good since coming back into the team and has played some important knocks. And definitely has the capability to play till 2019.
 
Azhar, Sharjeel, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz, Umar, Imad, Nawaz, Amir, Wahab, Sohail.

Best and most realistic XI.
 
Azhar, Sharjeel, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz, Umar, Imad, Nawaz, Amir, Wahab, Sohail.

Best and most realistic XI.

Sohail Khan plays outside of Asia. Nawaz in Asia. You forgot Hasan. He is our 2nd best death bowler after Amir. Bottom 7 should look like: Imad, Sohail/Nawaz, Wahab, Amir, Hasan.
 
Sohail Khan plays outside of Asia. Nawaz in Asia. You forgot Hasan. He is our 2nd best death bowler after Amir. Bottom 7 should look like: Imad, Sohail/Nawaz, Wahab, Amir, Hasan.

Hassan>Amir in terms of death bowling.
 
I ve heard Haris is still struggling with his knee following surgery in dubai. He will be heading to London for re check up.
Heard from certain sources that his career might be over
 
This would be my eleven for the CT 17.
Enough Fire Power in the batting department

1.azhar
2.sharjeel
3.babar
4.sarfraz
5.malik
6.imad/yamin
7.imad/yamin
8.amad butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Amir
11. Ghulam mudassar
 
Babar is the ideal guy to open with Sharjeel. Moving him up to open won't magically ruin his game. Haris and Akmal should be 3 and 4.
 
Umar Akmal
Sharjeel
Babaar
Harris
Imad
Sarfaraz
Umar Amin
Amad Butt

This should be top 8. After that one more bowling all rounder , and two specialist fast bowlers.
 
A realistic batting line up for the Australian tour is

Azhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Umar
Imad
 
A realistic batting line up for the Australian tour is

Azhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Umar
Imad

Good strategy by Pakistan to play our worst batsman up top. This way we would get rid of any liabilities before we get into the business end of the innings.
 
Good strategy by Pakistan to play our worst batsman up top. This way we would get rid of any liabilities before we get into the business end of the innings.


I wouldn't have him in the line up but he won't be replaced anytime soon that's why I said realistic, my own personal line up us slightly different from the one above.
 
Sharjeel
Azhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfaraz
Imad

this is as good as we can put out right now

Haris is the missing link. instead we play trash like Rizwan, Shafiq
 
Hafeez
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Akmal
Imad

This line up looks packed 1-7

Azhar and Haris yet to be placed in it.

Surely we can't keep Haris out, neither will Azhar miss as he's a captain

Hafeez the senior and good economical bowler wouldn't be dropped. Neither will he bat below 3.

Babar, imad can't be dropped,

Malik the best chaser can't be dropped

Sharjeel and Akmal(can be argued though) are the only dynamic players can't be dropped.

So there are 9 players competing for 1-7. Even if we move sarfraz to 7 and Imad at 8, still 1 player has to be dropped.

Who should it be?

If Azhar gets sacked then fine, if not who else?
 
I personally would go with

Sharjeel
Hafeez(No other way )
Babar
Haris
Malik
Akmal
Sarfraz (Captain + Wk)(Bats as a floater)
Imad
Amir
Hassan
Junaid

With this we bat deep, even no.9 can bat

We have 3 good seamers, 3 good spinners who can bowl 20+ overs
 
Imad has to bat at 5 for KK, to improve and showcase his talent with the bat to Mickey.

This psl should give us at least 4 players

We got Sharjeel, Nawaz, Hassan, Asghar, Latif , Raees from season 1
 
As I said, if Pakistan ruthlessly test and implement changes, they can figure out a workable batting lineup for modern LOI. The lineup won't be on par with the best in the world but it will be workable enough for Pakistan to stay in games.

Invest in Sharjeel, Babar, Imad and Sarfraz.

Test newer players.

Use guys like Umar (thin ice), Kamran (pure bat), Hafeez and Malik sparingly as and when required till the other players establish themselves.

For all this you need a captain who to look at the larger picture.

Too much drama in Pak cricket for someone to do what needs to be done.
 
Use guys like Umar (thin ice), Kamran (pure bat), Hafeez and Malik sparingly as and when required till the other players establish themselves.

Once the newer ones click, take these 4 out.
 
As I said, if Pakistan ruthlessly test and implement changes, they can figure out a workable batting lineup for modern LOI. The lineup won't be on par with the best in the world but it will be workable enough for Pakistan to stay in games.

Invest in Sharjeel, Babar, Imad and Sarfraz.

Test newer players.

Use guys like Umar (thin ice), Kamran (pure bat), Hafeez and Malik sparingly as and when required till the other players establish themselves.

For all this you need a captain who to look at the larger picture.

Too much drama in Pak cricket for someone to do what needs to be done.

Sadly, Pakistan cricket is all about here and now. We don't look or plan ahead.

We are too desperate for victories in the present to think about building a team for the future.
 
1. Sharjeel
2. Umar Akmal
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Sarfaraz (c/wk)
7. Amir Yamin
8. Imad Wasim
9. Zafar Gohar/Asghar/Amad Butt depending on the conditions
10. Amir
11. Hassan Ali

This'd be a pretty good line-up.
 
Hafeez
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Akmal
Imad

This line up looks packed 1-7

Azhar and Haris yet to be placed in it.

Surely we can't keep Haris out, neither will Azhar miss as he's a captain

Hafeez the senior and good economical bowler wouldn't be dropped. Neither will he bat below 3.

Babar, imad can't be dropped,

Malik the best chaser can't be dropped

Sharjeel and Akmal(can be argued though) are the only dynamic players can't be dropped.

So there are 9 players competing for 1-7. Even if we move sarfraz to 7 and Imad at 8, still 1 player has to be dropped.

Who should it be?

If Azhar gets sacked then fine, if not who else?

Imad should bat 8 making up the 4 specialist bowlers. Hafeez & Malik share to makeup the 5th bowler. Very few ODI pitches these days would be truly seaming wickets - slow bowlers will always be useful to take the pace of the ball.

This allows for Azhar to come back and open unless and until we find a better opener. Hafeez is a terrible opener should be at 4 or lower.

When Harris is fit and in form - he may have to either challenge one of Akmal, Malik, or Hafeez. However, Pakistan does need a hard hitting batsman so if Akmal does fail, we may not need to find a suitable replacement - Harris may be too similar to the rest in his batting style.
 
I an ideal world we would have this batting line up for 2019 WC in england
1_sharjeel
2_umar
3_babar(vc)
4_harris
5_sarfraz(c)
6_malik
7_yamin
8_imad
9_amir
10_hassan ali
11_asif
12_junaid
13_reserve keeper
14_spin allrounder
15_reserve middle order batsman
this playing XI is the closest to a modern LOI which pak can field and this team can potentially beat any team in the next world cup in any conditions, and can rack up and chase atleast 300 on regular basis.
 
For Champions Trophy.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Umar Akmal.
3 Babar.
4 Haris.
5 Hafeez.
6 Malik.
7 Sarfaraz.
8 Imad.
9 Amir.
10 Hassan.
11 Junaid.

For WC 2019.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Umar Akmal.
3 Babar.
4 Haris.
5 Malik.
6 Sarfaraz.
7 Imad.
8 Shadab.
9 Amir.
10 Hassan.
11 Junaid
 
1-Sharjeel Khan
2-Umar AKmal
3-Babar Azam
4-Haris sohail
5-Sarfaraz Ahmed (c)(wk)
6-Shoaib Malik
7-Aamer Yamin
8-Imad Wasim
9-Ammad Butt
10-Muhammad Amir
11-Wahab Riaz/Hassan Ali/Junaid Khan

This would be a great playing eleven...

I agree. Looks like a strong team.
 
in an ideal world if we had some damn foresight we would play the following eleven post the azhar injury.

1 hafeez
2 sharjeel
3 babar
4 umar (haris spot until he returns-hafeez spot if azhar returns before haris does)
5 sarfaraz (cant bat below this)
6 malik (has to assume resurrecting and finishing duties. not a kid anymore and will do much better than sarfraz at 6 and hafeez,)
7 yamin (absolute disaster of a non pick. hafeez could have bowled his overs until he became fully established and set. could have settled in quick like hasan ali and been ready for CT which is in england and u really can do with having 35+ overs of pace
8 imad (lock after england)
9 hasan
10 amir
11 AN Other quick

this line up would allow us to phase out hafeez/azhar and both after CT if hafeez batting outside asia doenst improve. right now malik and hafeez have to play as the 5th/6th bowler.
some games in england u would want 30+ overs of seam. if u r bowling on an overcast morning u need a batting seem allrounder.
line up has depth. imad at 8 is how i would want to go. 3 and a half quicks, sla and right arm offspin,
if u r in uae/subcon u can replace one of the quicks with asghar
 
My Ideal XI for ODIs

Sharjeel
Umar/Hafeez
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Hafeez/Umar
Imad
Amir
Hasan
Junaid

Really don't understand the hype about Yamin/Ammad. They aren't even Pandya level.
 
My best 11 is
Shehzad
Sharjeel
Hafeez/haris (alrounder)
Baber
Sarfraz
Malik
U akmal
Imad
Amir
Junaid
Hasan/wahab
 
My Ideal XI for ODIs

Sharjeel
Umar/Hafeez
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Hafeez/Umar
Imad
Amir
Hasan
Junaid

Really don't understand the hype about Yamin/Ammad. They aren't even Pandya level.

That's a good line up.

And yes the hype was there for Yamin/Ammad but they have done zilch in this domestic season. For what it's worth Fahim Ashraf has outperformed both of them.
 
For Champions Trophy.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Umar Akmal.
3 Babar.
4 Haris.
5 Hafeez.
6 Malik.
7 Sarfaraz.
8 Imad.
9 Amir.
10 Hassan.
11 Junaid.

For WC 2019.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Umar Akmal.
3 Babar.
4 Haris.
5 Malik.
6 Sarfaraz.
7 Imad.
8 Shadab.
9 Amir.
10 Hassan.
11 Junaid

Play that team in CT and we may end up in the latter half of the tournament.
 
sarfaraz or hafeez at 5 ?

Interchangeable depending on situation. If we are in a spot of bother and have to plenty of overs to play out then Sarfaraz, if the need of the hour is to up the run rate then Hafeez is 5. However, this is all just fantasy Hafeez will NEVER bat below number 3.

who would you want as the captain of the odi team, sarfaraz or hafeez ?

Personally I would want Sarf as captain, but it might be TOO much burden on one guy, hence Hafeez may get the nod for the interim period. If Sarf gives up the gloves like Sanga did then he might be a good candidate for captaincy.
 
make Haris the captain. then give him carte blance to select whatever team he wants. Also provide him with a private jumbo jet just to sweeten the deal. I mean he must be the greatest player since Bradman, Sachin and Lara combined so why not?

on a serious note he should prove he can last twenty overs before he is worth a place in the team.
 
That's a good line up.

And yes the hype was there for Yamin/Ammad but they have done zilch in this domestic season. For what it's worth Fahim Ashraf has outperformed both of them.

yamin showed he had something in that odi against zimbabwe and apart from a t20 (where he took a wicket first ball) i havent seen him again. thats is unfair. dont say it was just zimbabwe because pak lost that game :facepalm: the way he got the runs and the situation demanded we see more of him especially when we had overseas tours where u need a seam allrounder coming up right through 2016 june to 2017 june but alas...
 
make Haris the captain. then give him carte blance to select whatever team he wants. Also provide him with a private jumbo jet just to sweeten the deal. I mean he must be the greatest player since Bradman, Sachin and Lara combined so why not?

on a serious note he should prove he can last twenty overs before he is worth a place in the team.

calm down we are assuming/hoping that he returns how he left us. a bit like how akmal has returned exactly the same;)
 
calm down we are assuming/hoping that he returns how he left us. a bit like how akmal has returned exactly the same;)

you mean akmal with a bigger belly and the same brainless mistakes? lets hope he returns as a better player than he was otherwise he shouldnt be anywhere near our squad!!
 
you mean akmal with a bigger belly and the same brainless mistakes? lets hope he returns as a better player than he was otherwise he shouldnt be anywhere near our squad!!

harsh. very harsh he only played 20 odd games and hia game was in good order. yes he had a problem converting starts but he had a good start to his career
 
Many ppl make sharjeel here as a settled batsman. He is still has a long way to go to stamp his feet. He hits boundaries and then keep quiet till he gets another ball to hit. His strike rotation is equal to shehzad and Sami only the no. of boundaries and the time he is in the crease is not exposing that. Ppl expect openers to score quickly and score the maximum they can because usually openers doesn't bowl. Sharjeel need to score centuries and fifties in every three matches. All 30s in a five match series will get him under the radar quickly. Don't take hafeez he is not an opener in any format to be honest.
 
Many ppl make sharjeel here as a settled batsman. He is still has a long way to go to stamp his feet. He hits boundaries and then keep quiet till he gets another ball to hit. His strike rotation is equal to shehzad and Sami only the no. of boundaries and the time he is in the crease is not exposing that. Ppl expect openers to score quickly and score the maximum they can because usually openers doesn't bowl. Sharjeel need to score centuries and fifties in every three matches. All 30s in a five match series will get him under the radar quickly. Don't take hafeez he is not an opener in any format to be honest.

As they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Right now Sharjeel is a naimat for our one-dimensional tuk tuk batting line-up. He is the only one who can easily play at a SR of 100 and above. Sharjeel isn't going anywhere as long as he keeps contributing handy 30s and 40s.
 
My ideal 11 for 2019 wc would look like

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Babar Azam
3. Haris Sohail
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz (c)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Imad Wasim (vc)
8. Aamer Yamin
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Junaid Khan
 
As they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Right now Sharjeel is a naimat for our one-dimensional tuk tuk batting line-up. He is the only one who can easily play at a SR of 100 and above. Sharjeel isn't going anywhere as long as he keeps contributing handy 30s and 40s.

agreed, but these things will come to haunt when they try to win big tournaments... for now it is ok...
 
My lineup for the CT

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Mohammad Hafeez
3. Babar Azam
4. Shoaib Malik
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (C) (+)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Aamir Yamin or Fahim Ashraf
8. Imad Wasim
9. Junaid Khan
10. Hasan Ali
11. Mohammad Amir

Rotate Malik/Ahmed/Akmal as the match dictates
 
For all this you need a captain who to look at the larger picture.

Too much drama in Pak cricket for someone to do what needs to be done.

This is the main challenge. Finding someone who has vision and a plan.

Captains are made with strong intentions and end up being absorbed in the fight for keeping their spot in the team and surrounding themselves by TTFs. Its the pretty girl with ugly friends concept.

Misbah was probably the most short sighted captain in the history of Pak cricket, no wonder we went to no.9.
 
Nope

Sohail hasn't even earned his spot to be honest

Sharjeel is Afridi 2.0

Imad is also unproven

Azhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Akmal/Sohail
Malik
Sarfraz (wk)

Pakistan need 5 batsman
 
2.Sharjeel seems to be finding his feet
3.Babar looks like he be might be the backbone of this line up
4.Haris is back at the NCA and trying to make a comeback
5.Sarfraz is looking really good
6.Imad can be promoted, adds the necessary balance

With CT'17 at the next door, will this team improve?

Really doubt that Harris will be back in the squad by CT unless he gets lucky and get picked for WI ODIs based on his PSL performance. Unlikely though.
 
As they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Right now Sharjeel is a naimat for our one-dimensional tuk tuk batting line-up. He is the only one who can easily play at a SR of 100 and above. Sharjeel isn't going anywhere as long as he keeps contributing handy 30s and 40s.

Absolutely.
I don't understand the flak Sharjeel gets from our fans. Let's remind them of the torturous starts of 15(32) we used to get from Shehzad.

Sharjeel is the one current Pakistani batsman who I think will almost always fire in big chases. In fact he has done that twice now. 1st in that 444 chase he hit 50-odd from 27 balls. And in the World T20 2016 against NZ, he hit a 40-odd from 20 balls and almost single-handed ly won us the match if it wasn't for Akmal's stupidity
 
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Absolutely.
I don't understand the flak Sharjeel gets from our fans. Let's remind them of the torturous starts of 15(32) we used to get from Shehzad.

Sharjeel is the one current Pakistani batsman who I think will almost always fire in big chases. In fact he has done that twice now. 1st in that 444 chase he hit 50-odd from 27 balls. And in the World T20 2016 against NZ, he hit a 40-odd from 20 balls and almost single-handed ly won us the match if it wasn't for Akmal's stupidity

His confident start was crucual in the win against AUS too. Hafeez was terrible in the first 8 overs.
 
Only 2 out of these 5 now remain acceptable options: Babar & Sarfraz.

A major setback to our limited overs cricket.
 
in what world is Imad a no. 6... that like when people used to say Wahab can be an all-rounder

and Haris Sohail is probably not even good enough for a good first class team right now, let alone the national team
 
in what world is Imad a no. 6... that like when people used to say Wahab can be an all-rounder

and Haris Sohail is probably not even good enough for a good first class team right now, let alone the national team
Imad was like our second best batsman in England ODI series, he can be good if promoted to the middle order, his strike rotation is probably the best after Sarfraz and Malik, can hit some boundaries, he just need to focus more on his batting.
agree with what you said about Haris though, he does not look ready to be in the team, he should play a full domestic season and perform there to get back into the side
 
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