Should a player apologise for getting an opponent out?

[The Viper]

Today Haris Rauf apologised to Shahid Afridi once he took his wicket.

Shaheen Shah Afridi did the same when he got Afridi in a previous edition.

Is this something that players should do?

 

[Syed1]

Afridi is considered a legend in Pakistan, most of these young cricketers must have grown up watching Afridi rip a new one for Indian trundlers. Hence they show their respect to Afridi after dismissing him. Shaheen just didn't celebrate and that was classy, Rauf apologizing was a bit cringey.


When C.Ronaldo scored against Man U he didn't celebrate.

 

[Zaz]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

 

[Hasan123]

There is no need to apologise. Your job is to get him out so once you have done that you can celebrate.

 

[The Viper]

Afridi is considered a legend in Pakistan, most of these young cricketers must have grown up watching Afridi rip a new one for Indian trundlers. Hence they show their respect to Afridi after dismissing him. Shaheen just didn't celebrate and that was classy, Rauf apologizing was a bit cringey.


When C.Ronaldo scored against Man U he didn't celebrate.

Oh yes I forgot about Shaheen not celebrating. For some reason I thought he apologised also.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Let a player express himself freely.
He was within the code of conduct, and frankly I appreciate this gesture.

It was a lot better than saying "Falana bhai and falana bhai" to player in order to express a fake respect where what actually means is, "I am extending this respect to you, so keep in your good books and don't forget to cut me slack whenever there is an opportunity."

 

[Abdullah719]

Afridi is considered a legend in Pakistan, most of these young cricketers must have grown up watching Afridi rip a new one for Indian trundlers. Hence they show their respect to Afridi after dismissing him. Shaheen just didn’t celebrate and that was classy, Rauf apologizing was a bit cringey.


When C.Ronaldo scored against Man U he didn’t celebrate.

I think he celebrated as an instinct but then quickly changed his mind.

 

[nextover666666]

I don't see anything wrong with I mean Rauf does have right to celebrate but if out of respect he didn't want to wild celebration since Afridi is a legend in Pakistan I can understand

So long as celebration is not offensive or vulgar that thier is no issue with his celebration


After all cricket is the gentlemens game

 

[Zaz]

I don't see anything wrong with I mean Rauf does have right to celebrate but if out of respect he didn't want to wild celebration since Afridi is a legend in Pakistan I can understand

So long as celebration is not offensive or vulgar that thier is no issue with his celebration


After all cricket is the gentlemens game

He has the right not to celebrate But he shouldnt be apologising like that for taking a wkt Its not a good look

 

[Mobashir]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

There is no need to apologise. Your job is to get him out so once you have done that you can celebrate.

The usual suspects out there with negativity and hate.

If he feels he should not celebrate Afridi's wicket he can.
It happens everywhere, in football, very big matches still some legend don't celebrate against their previous clubs etc.

 

[Zaz]

The usual suspects out there with negativity and hate.

If he feels he should not celebrate Afridi's wicket he can.
It happens everywhere, in football, very big matches still some legend don't celebrate against their previous clubs etc.

He didnt not celebrate He apologised with hands folded to afridi for getting him out Hardly the same thing

Its probably hard for you to understand but Theres a distinct difference

 

[Muhammad]

Yes absolutely they should.

Look when a batsman is dismissed the negative emotion felt by him in the immediate aftermath is tremendous. It’s a really low feeling and the least the offending bowler can do is to offer a heartfelt apology. After all he is responsible for their emotional distress.

Great to see this happening in what is indeed the Gentleman’s game

 

[Mobashir]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

He didnt not celebrate He apologised with hands folded to afridi for getting him out Hardly the same thing

Its probably hard for you to understand but Theres a distinct difference

https://youtu.be/e8jxLAkWZRU
Maybe all these great footballers are also Pakistani.

Didn't knew we had such legends in football.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Negligible arguement it’s all in good fun. Afridi although bowled brilliantly he missed out with the bat.

 

[Zaz]

https://youtu.be/e8jxLAkWZRU
Maybe all these great footballers are also Pakistani.

Didn't knew we had such legends in football.

I didnt know afridi was a former team that rauf used to play for

Thanks for enlightening me and all pakpassioners

I always thought afridi was just another player Silly me

 

[Hasan123]

The usual suspects out there with negativity and hate.

If he feels he should not celebrate Afridi's wicket he can.
It happens everywhere, in football, very big matches still some legend don't celebrate against their previous clubs etc.

I haven't said anything negative. I have said he can celebrate if he gets him out.

Just because an opinion isn't the same as your it doesn't mean it is hateful or negative. I have not said anything hateful to him. I have just answered the question in the OP.

 

[Rana]

I don’t think he apologised, he just simply made sure he doesn’t let the beast out of the cage the way he does when he picks up the wicket of any player and screams like a madman. Afridi definitely deserves more respect than that celebration. But it was a big, big wicket in the context of the game.

You can throw a 60 year old Afridi in a first class standard game and he might still hit 2-3 sixes before getting bowled out.

 

[Saj]

Has this ever happened in any other league or country, other than Pakistan?

 

[hitthestump]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

This isn't a service for seniors.

It is Rauf and Shaheen paying homage to one individual Pakistani legend who no doubt inspired them to love the game.

 

[Clubpenno]

Last week Uriah Hall KOd Anderson Silva and started crying after the fight instead of celebration even though in UFC stakes are definitely higher. Literally everyone unanimously thought this was a respectful/ sweet moment but guess if it was a Uriah was a Pakistani doing this, we still would have uncle's talking nonsense about Uriah.

 

[Hitman]

Still can't believe Afridi is a legend in a country like Pakistan with a rich cricketing culture. Pakistan has produced top class cricketers in it's history. And you're telling me Afridi is a legend among those names? Gimme a break.

 

[naseem]

It's a show of respect ...or homage to a legend in Pak...

 

[cricketAXEpert]

There was no need to apologize, actually it was not an apology. Just a show of Respect.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Its simply a sign of respect to a legendary senior player who has retired. Good on Haris Rauf. I have been critical of his celebrations but this was a good gesture.

 

[El Generico]

Pretty sure it was a joke, nothing to take too seriously.

 

[Sohaib]

I guess it is more of a cultural thing. When Shaheen Afridi bowled Shahid Afridi, he did not celebrate.

When Shahid Afridi bowled Misbah in one of PSL games, Shahid Afridi abandoned his celebration half way through as a respect to Misbah ul Haq.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Still can't believe Afridi is a legend in a country like Pakistan with a rich cricketing culture. Pakistan has produced top class cricketers in it's history. And you're telling me Afridi is a legend among those names? Gimme a break.

Not taking away anything from other Pak stars but Afridi does not even come close to many of them in terms of records and achievements and technical skills etc.

I think the reason behind Afridi’s popularity was that he was an impact player. And you can’t measure such a player by his runs n scores and averages, strike rates and wickets and centuries and fifties and five-fors etc.

What might; however, give us an indication of him being an impact player is that he is the highest recipient of player of the match awards from Pakistan.

This does NOT make him better than the Wasims and Waqars and Inzimams and Miandads etc but such a record definitely makes one a very popular player.

I think his hit to Ashwin for six in that Asia cup game was something that made him win the hearts of many Pak fans as he delivered a much awaited and quite humiliating defeat to India in a heart throbbing contest.

 

[DRsohail]

Still can't believe Afridi is a legend in a country like Pakistan with a rich cricketing culture. Pakistan has produced top class cricketers in it's history. And you're telling me Afridi is a legend among those names? Gimme a break.

He is yes . Why? A Pakistani legend.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

It’s a gentleman’s game. I think you’re allowed to express respect to someone you respect.

 

[tyron_woodley]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

Yep. Play to kill or get killed. Got to be ruthless. Honestly there is no need to apologize even if you flatline the opponent with a bouncer. It's part of the game.

Until the match is over he is your enemy.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Yep. Play to kill or get killed. Got to be ruthless. Honestly there is no need to apologize even if you flatline the opponent with a bouncer. It's part of the game.

Until the match is over he is your enemy.

Chill man. I’m pretty sure if Tyagi got Sachin out, he wouldn’t celebrate out of respect.

 

[Zaz]

Chill man. I’m pretty sure if Tyagi got Sachin out, he wouldn’t celebrate out of respect.

Would he apologise to him whilst getting him out?
And lets not even think of putting afridi in sachins league

Afridi isnt even in the top 10 of the best player pakistan has produced never mind comparing him with the best india has

 

[Indiafan]

Yep. Play to kill or get killed. Got to be ruthless. Honestly there is no need to apologize even if you flatline the opponent with a bouncer. It's part of the game.

Until the match is over he is your enemy.

His job was to get him out which he did. After that, whatever he does is his personal stuff. The style of celebrations or not celebrating or apolgizong affects only the personal equation and not the outcome of the match.

Them paying respect to someone who has entertained the nation so much and whom they probably looked up to and was an inspiration to then growing up cannot be a wrong thing

 

[kingusama92]

The way Rauf was describing it, he did it more as a joke than out of respect.

 

[CleverSir]

I think we're blowing this out of proportion. Listening to Rauf talk about it, seems like it was a half joke, half respect for a long time Pakistan player he grew up watching. I thought it was a fun moment and then moved on. No reason to get hung up on it. Especially if the players have moved on from it.

 

[PakPremi]

Chill it was a kind of joke and respect oh my god I bowled Pak legend first ball. Afridi is a legend who doubt it, his bowling alone was remarkable let alone the blistering 6s and scoring quickfire 50s and 100., winning T20 world Cup with back to back performances, and also Asia cuo.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Would he apologise to him whilst getting him out?
And lets not even think of putting afridi in sachins league

Afridi isnt even in the top 10 of the best player pakistan has produced never mind comparing him with the best india has

It’s just a gesture. He did it with a cheeky smile too. It’s not as if he got on his knees. I think what he did was adorable, at worst, and heart-warming at best - a tribute to Pakistan’s biggest stars.

And I do put Afridi in Sachin’s league from a star perspective within the country. The kind of blind love an average guy off the street in Lahore or Peshawar has for Afridi is comparable to the love an average Mumbai wala has for Sachin. The debate has nothing to do with class or skills the way you are making it out to be.

Afridi is clearly one of Rauf’s heroes, and he had a little happy moment that people are needlessly criticizing. He was clearly just having a bit of fun.

 

[Gullycricket]

Haris Rauf celebrates wildly so this was a good gesture. Afridi is like Dhoni in Pakistan maybe even more interms of stature. Indians shouldn't criticize him for this. Once Rubel Hussain celebrated wildly in front of Kohli , Kohli was abusing him all along. Anyways even if he celebrated wildly I don't think Afridi would mind but this gesture was out of respect

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Haris Rauf celebrates wildly so this was a good gesture. Afridi is like Dhoni in Pakistan maybe even more interms of stature. Indians shouldn't criticize him for this. Once Rubel Hussain celebrated wildly in front of Kohli , Kohli was abusing him all along. Anyways even if he celebrated wildly I don't think Afridi would mind but this gesture was out of respect

I think much more than Dhoni, even these days Dhoni gets abused by many Indians. In terms of pure love for Afridi, it exceeds the love Pakistanis have for Wasim Akram and Imran Khan even, though they were the superior cricketers. This unconditional love is more comparable to Sachin than Dhoni.

 

[GreenKhan]

Maybe he saw Afridi as his hero and that’s why he decided to do what he did. Rauf generally is very vocal in his celebrations even when he was getting out the Zimbabwe tailenders so fair play to him for this gesture.

I remember when Stephen Hendry first beat Steve Davis at the crucible he put his head on the snooker table and got very emotional as he was his “hero”.

Each to their own . Nothing wrong with Rauf doing what he did .

 

[Mesozoic]

I think much more than Dhoni, even these days Dhoni gets abused by many Indians. In terms of pure love for Afridi, it exceeds the love Pakistanis have for Wasim Akram and Imran Khan even, though they were the superior cricketers. This unconditional love is more comparable to Sachin than Dhoni.

I feel it's the right comparison (with Dhoni).

I think I've seen enough hatred for Afridi from Pakistanis online to say he is not loved unconditionally. Even on this very forum, I've seen people calling him the "worst thing to have happened to Pak cricket" etc etc.

 

[silentkiller187]

I think everyone here is missing the point, “the apology” was a celebration , he said he was working on and prepared for when he got a senior out. He didn’t apologise because he got him out, it was his own tongue in cheek celebration, it was just a bit of fun.

 

[shamaan]

So what if he didnt celebrate if he respects him and doesnt want to celebrate that's up to him

 

[MMHS]

I noticed it later, nothing wrong here actually. I put it this way - in office culture we had peers junior to rank but much senior in age .... we did something similar to over rule them. It was Rauf's way to say that - Lala, got you first ball, maaf karna bhai (actual meaning is, you know who is the boss).

 

[Abdullah719]

 

[Caved12]

The problem here is that Rauf had already planned this celebration before the game even started.
If this came out naturally, then no issues. but when you pre-plan such celebrations, then I wonder if your mind is at the right place.

Imad was copying Ronaldo not too long ago

Hasan Ali would drop a grenade even when he is picking up a wicket of a tail ender. Family members doing his celebration in balconies and then posting those pictures online.

Shaheen always paying tribute to a nothing player like Shahid Afridi.

Wahab doing that moustache thing and many more have acted in a very questionable manner.

Cricket is a mental game and our guys are focusing on everything, but cricket.

Our players love to play for the camera.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I feel it's the right comparison (with Dhoni).

I think I've seen enough hatred for Afridi from Pakistanis online to say he is not loved unconditionally. Even on this very forum, I've seen people calling him the "worst thing to have happened to Pak cricket" etc etc.

Fair enough. But surely it’s okay for Tyagi to have a cheeky celebration to Dhoni or Sachin where he shows them respect with a smile if he gets them for a duck?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Today, in an interview the stated that it was NOT a sign of an "apology" but a gesture of respect to Afridi.

 

[gazza619]

Let a player express himself freely.
He was within the code of conduct, and frankly I appreciate this gesture.

It was a lot better than saying "Falana bhai and falana bhai" to player in order to express a fake respect where what actually means is, "I am extending this respect to you, so keep in your good books and don't forget to cut me slack whenever there is an opportunity."

Good post and totally agree.

One needs to express freely.

 

[MRSN]

It silly the pakistani mentality of respecting seniors Needs to be done away with the sooner the better

Not only a Pakistani thing. Even Steyn apologised Hafeez once.

 

[FreePalestine]

Still can't believe Afridi is a legend in a country like Pakistan with a rich cricketing culture. Pakistan has produced top class cricketers in it's history. And you're telling me Afridi is a legend among those names? Gimme a break.

I think most Pakistanis realize he was not the same level of cricketer as Saeed Anwar, Inzi, Yousuf, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar etc. That is why they refer to him as a ‘superstar’, rather than an all time great, generally.

Afridi’s appeal is that he had a rocketing start and got the fastest hundred in his second game — a record that stood for many years. He also has the most MoM awards, won us a T20 trophy, and played a few memorable innings against India. At his peak, he was a very good bowler for about 3-4 years. So I think people love him because of the excitement he brought to the masses, and those impactful performances that came by every now and then amongst the rubbish with the bat. Rather than remembering him as belonging to the same echelon as the greats, he is remembered and loved as an entertainer and, yes, amongst a certain part of the population, as a ‘match winner’, though I am sceptical about this second argument at times. Hard to argue against the MoM awards though, although a fair few were against minnows.

 

[MenInG]

Good one!