How many world cups has india won in odi 2 compare to pak 1 you are acting like india has won 5 world cup with their population only sport cricket india play are somewhat good at nothing to be proud off heck pakistan won most world cups in hocket tell me where is india at it while your are on it where is india in squash where pakistan has won most matches.
Yup teams struggle more than they’d like to admit against BD spinners on BD tracks.
These indian fans will never accept the shortcoming of their team during that time will give excuses oh we beat pakistan in world cups how many have you even won 2 compare to pak 1 it's not like india has 5 world cups like australia.
Lol brother India has also won 3 CTs compared to Pak's 1 and 2 T20 WCs compared to Pak's 1. Not to mention 8 ACs.
2 > 1
You seriously undermining pakistan domininace in hockey and squash whole workd knows the records pakistan had in those 2 sports pakistan has won most trophies in those sports just because they are bad now no need to forget what they had achieved.
Pakistan has only one goal
Don't derail this thread by wasting your time with these bhakts. Best method to compare two teams in cricket is that you look at their head to head. Pakistan leads comfortably in both tests and ODIs. Its similar in hockey btw. Everything else is mental gymnastics.
Only because they don't play more lol.
Ya these guys will never accept how bad they were just because they are somewhat good now they want to talk bad about other teams.
Never as bad as Pakistan is currently
That is a fair call. Any team can be vulnerable on a given day. INdia despite a dominating side, as a unit is lighlty experienced. India has played 210T20 internationals since WT20, 2024 final where India lost 3 players to retirement. New unit has played only 20 internationals of which ABhishek, Bishnoi (who is down in the pecking order), Samson, Rinku singh played 18. SKy 16. Pandya 15. This is the first time this unit is playing together with Gill coming back. So this is not exactly an experienced unit. But it took them only 10 or 15 games to become a formidable unit.
Ok you guys were the best will remain the best khush ab seriously no need to look down at any team you never know kb mu ki khani par jaye yeh kahawat to yad hogi.
Then play more 'lol'.
Mental gymnastics can be played both ways but I am not in mood now so you can carry on. Feel free to bump the relevant thread if you still have an itch. I may oblige later.
Naah no need to play more. Matches are boring.
Opposition in this tournament is not strong enough to expose any Indian weakness imo. Any team can have their day but for this tournament, Ind is head and shoulders above the competition.
Tbh in these conditions you play spinners thats what pak has to do play the same team which played in final of Afghanistan.
I think the only teams that can beat Ind are Aus and Eng as they also have dynamic batting although their bowling is weaker. Even there, India would start favourites.
If you are only talking in t20s AND in Dubai then yeah Ind and Aus stronger than Eng.
T20s anywhere India is the strongest. India won the T20 WC eliminating both in the WI.
1-2) Openers - need to play as powerplay specialists
Aswin did an analysis on Agha in his youtube channel.Agha never picked kuldeep and he got out by playing straight to a turning delivery in ct25. As far as I know kuldeep troubled him even during Asia cup 23.u dont want ur nemesis when there is a need to up the ante especially in a t20 game. Even varun will be an additional trouble for agha now.
If they are scared, they might not as well play the match.
Exactly! In Salman Ali Agha and Mike Hesson, PCT has good leadership. They will plan well. How they execute as a team esp. with new players in the squad, will determine how they play tough games.
Salman Agha could not pick kuldeep in both encounters against India in ODIs. 12 balls 6 runs 2 dismissals. Even guys like ROot, Kane , SMith had issues picking him.
Inzi era? Didn't Pakistan grt thrashed in every world cup and big matches in the inzi era?
Yeah you just don't have any answers to those numbers
India won the ODI series (3-2) and Test series (2-1) in Pakistan in 2004 during the Inzi era. This was the first series after the Kargil war. I watched every match on DD National.
Someone who genuinely believes india is avoiding playing bangla etc because they are afraid and not because of economic and political reasons can never be taken seriously in any opinion related to cricket ever.
We have cold hard overall numbers from that period, your one or two match examples don't show anything
A bowler who overall averages 17 in t20s and was man of the series just last world t20, is just a purple patch apparently.
Lol no. India was better till the 80s. Pak was better till 2003.
That poster lies through his teeth about every single thing to hate on India. He just claimed the best t20 fast bowler with an average of 17 and man of series in last t20 world cup was having a purple patch.
Bumrah is a terrific bowler. World class infact. Really really good.
Actually @Sachin fan Bumrah at peak oa probably > Wasim in tests. Every ball is an event.
If Bumrah reaches 350 (131 away from it) with his current average he is definitely top 5.
He won't. He's already 31. Not to mention @sweep_shot is right. In the test series it was clear bumrah is more or less past his peak.
Meri jaan, why don't you hit relevant thread to get your answers ? You and your friends can tag me there so that we can do mental gymnastics together. I am sure there is already a comparison thread on hockey in timepass section.
Let's see.
Let's see but I doubt it. Rohit made a critical mistake in BGT having Bumrah play 5 tests non stop.
gang, I cannot wish harm to players themsleves who put their blood sweat and tears for their country.
Yeah should have rested a few in BGT. Shouldn't have played the Sydney test.Let's see but I doubt it. Rohit made a critical mistake in BGT having Bumrah play 5 tests non stop.
Despite bowling well in BGT, those 5 tests were too much, it put him out of commission for CT and even during IPL the first few games he was bowling awfully as the back pain issue was starting to show, it took him some time to find his rhythm.
Then in England test series you cam clearly tell the mental toll it took on his body playing 2 back to back tests.
England in test 1 had a nightmarish time against him, however due to India's rubbish tail, the bowlers didnt get enough time to rest which led to a nightmare 4th innings session.
Then playing back to back tests from 3rd to 4th was honestly too cruel. Despite my issues with the
Thr 4th Test was extremely cruel on his body.
You guys won't admit it, but rohit ran him into the ground in BGT. You cam forget about him ever representing India full time in BGT or AT tours ever again.
We've replaced him and Rizwan with better batsmen.
That title is reserved for Shane Bond and Ian Bishop to a lesser extent.
Rashid is a much more hittable bowler these days.
Marco Jansen hit him for 28 runs in one over in SA20.
Yeah we have Haris and m. nawaz and faheem to deal with spinners now... CHEERS
You got caught lying.
So you started blaming accusing for jingoism. Very typical of you. No one should counter your lies and propaganda lmao.
Where is the lie ?
Is that why you are busy looking for my non existent lies ?
You said Fakhar has hit Kuldeep for sixes, when in reality it’s just 1 six. Instead of simply accepting the correction when someone countered you with statistics, you chose to attack him. If it was an unintentional mistake, you could have acknowledged it and moved on. But this looks more like either a deliberate lie or maybe a case of fragile ego, where you couldn’t digest being proven wrong, just like in the Faheem vs Aamer Jamal debate during the PSL
So it was a six and not sixes. Is this best you could do in your quest to 'expose' me ?You said Fakhar has hit Kuldeep for sixes, when in reality it’s just 1 six. Instead of simply accepting the correction when someone countered you with statistics, you chose to attack him. If it was an unintentional mistake, you could have acknowledged it and moved on. But this looks more like either a deliberate lie or maybe a case of fragile ego, where you couldn’t digest being proven wrong, just like in the Faheem vs Aamer Jamal debate during the PSL
He presented the stat that Fakhar has only hit one six after this post of mine so there was no reason to correct myself.
If you truly accepted your mistake, you would have simply said "one six." Instead, you mentioned "one or two sixes." This was your way of downplaying the correction.So it was a six and not sixes. Is this best you could do in your quest to 'expose' me ?
Btw, this was my very next post in this thread where I clearly alluded that this is from memory and it could be one six. You failed to quote that post for some reason so here it is.
He presented the stat that Fakhar has only hit one six after this post of mine so there was no reason to correct myself.
Unlike some of your Indian friends here, I have no issues in accepting mistakes and have done that before. But clearly you are scrapping the barrel here. Try again ryan ryan.
Now you are doing exactly what you accused me of. You failed to quote the post of mine where I clearly mentioned ''one or two sixes". This is could be a genuine oversight from your part so this is your chance to accept your mistake.
We can deal with impacts later. First we need to address your foolish mistakes that you just committed.And in T20s, 1 six does not usually make a significant impact. Fakhar hit 1 six against India in the 2024 T20 WC but it wasn't enough to get the job done.
Anyone can see that you tried to downplay the mistake you made. Anyway, I have a genuine question: since when have you been following cricket?
Its all in your head. I clearly mentioned 'one or two sixes' even before the supposed correction so I don't know why you accused me of lying. You probably didn't even read that post and now you are too weak to accept your mistake.
I have been following cricket long enough although I don't know why you are trying to change the subject.
We already have M. Haris, who is going to counter the Indian spinners with his two ball cameos. The Indian spinners are already getting sleepless nights over the prospect of bowling to him for two balls.
Not really, It was Shoaib Akhtar. However, one thing is common among the 3 - they may have had disabilities to overcome from the get go. Shane and Ian's back probably had nothing to do with staying fit - their back was just naturally incapable of taking the load of extreme fitness required for brutal pace.
