Should Pakistan have waited till end of Pakistan Cup before announcing probables for the World Cup?

[cricketworm]

BCCI will technically wait till at least halfway or later half of IPL before announcing probables for the world cup.

I wonder if PCB should have waited since there is no clear opening pair and lower order.

At least inform player during Pakistan Cup should have been considered over out of form players?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

BCCI will technically wait till at least halfway or later half of IPL before announcing probables for the world cup.

I wonder if PCB should have waited since there is no clear opening pair and lower order.

At least inform player during Pakistan Cup should have been considered over out of form players?

BCCI announcing probables? We are announcing the world cup squad next Monday.

 

[MenInG]

such radical thinking is not in our DNA unfortunately!

 

[cricketworm]

BCCI announcing probables? We are announcing the world cup squad next Monday.

Oh didn't know that it will have at least 16-17 players though. Last day to announce squad is April 23rd. So I am sure Pakistan could have waited till then.

 

[Hasan123]

Yes we should have waited till the Pakistan cup finished.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I think they got their last 2/3 spots filled after the end of the pak vs aus series hence they completely overlooked the Pak cup

 

[aloo paratha]

Logic and PCB don't go together.

 

[Mamoon]

No. A tournament that takes place just about two months before the World Cup should not impact selection.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

World cup team should not be decided on one tournament. It is a process of 4 years. We have already invested in few guys from last 4 years. Give them try. Those who are performing in Pakistan cup need to maintain their performance so that after WC we can consider them for next WC.

 

[Saj]

PCB nearly always makes a mess of when they name squads.

Announcing squads just before or during domestic tournaments is ridiculous and such a downer for the players who are to take part in that tournament.

 

[JibranAnsari]

This is PCB , naam hee kafi he.

 

[CleverSir]

I mean, I feel at this point we know what the squad will be for the most part. I don't think there is any harm to announce now and get the team together to train. Pakistan Cup hasn't thrown out anybody spectacular.

1) Sarfaraz
2) Babar
3) Fakhar
4) Shadab
5) Malik
6) Haris
7) Faheem
8) Amir
9) Shaheen
10) Hasan Ali
11) Hafeez (if fit)
12) Imad
13) Imam
14) Shan(?)
15) fast bowler or spinner

Maybe 2-3 spots they could move around. Best to get on with it. As long as the press conference is professional and outstanding questions decently answered.

 

[CadPakFan]

I thought they might add 2 or 3 names to the probables after the pakistan cup depending on performances?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

LOL @ some ppl thinking this tournament was important for World Cup selection.

 

[hadi123]

I don't think it's a big deal, players don't even HAVE to be in the probables to be selected for the 15 man squad, IIRC

 

[Energy]

Pakistan Cup will only skew the PCB squad decision in the wrong direction. There is no evidence to suggest that players performing well in the Pakistan Cup will do the same in the World Cup.

Top domestic performers should be picked for the home season that begins in Oct/Nov in the UAE. That's the best possible time to try the new players. And then you build the squad for overseas tours and tournaments.

 

[IMMY69]

BCCI will technically wait till at least halfway or later half of IPL before announcing probables for the world cup.

I wonder if PCB should have waited since there is no clear opening pair and lower order.

At least inform player during Pakistan Cup should have been considered over out of form players?

Hang on on a second...You mean the IPL is not even halfway finished???
When did it start?

 

[harasraja]

I just hope that khushdil shah can force his selection somehow, looks like a real asset. Would be a perfect replacement for hafeez as well in the near future.

 

[Saj]

In an ideal world the series against Australia should not have happened and the Pakistan Cup would have had all of the international hopefuls taking part in it.

 

[Sher Khan]

In an ideal world the series against Australia should not have happened and the Pakistan Cup would have had all of the international hopefuls taking part in it.

The aim of the Australia series, was to test out the bench strength and give them a chance to gain experience in international cricket. If Abid Ali was required for the World Cup, I’d much rather prefer him to have played against Australia rather than against Federal Areas in the Pakistan Cup.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

My own view is that the PCB didn't really give consideration to the Pakistan Cup because most of the selectors don't really watch domestic cricket and are probably unaware of many of the players. The PSL is more high profile because of the international stars, but generally domestic cricket seems to be pretty much ignored.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

So hacks like Umar Akmal have a chance again?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

They should have announced after it, but still it doesn't matter. Players can be added to probables any team PCB like, and it wouldn't be that big a problem.

Rather, this has allowed players selected in probables to start training and practicing together early on.

 

[Bilal7]

No clear opening pair? That is news to me seeing that Imam and Fakhar are guranteed to open for us during the WC, barring injury.

As for OP's question, no, the Pakistan Cup should not have much bearing on the WC selection except for maybe helping the selectors decide on who the back-up batsman should be. 13 or 14 players are already set in stone and these are players that have been performing well for an extended period of time and have the international experience that a domestic newbie will lack. Fringe and domestic players should not leave their best form for the couple of weeks before the WC squad announcement. Everyone has had four years to prepare for the World Cup and prove that they deserve to be on that plane.

 

[Bilal7]

My own view is that the PCB didn't really give consideration to the Pakistan Cup because most of the selectors don't really watch domestic cricket and are probably unaware of many of the players. The PSL is more high profile because of the international stars, but generally domestic cricket seems to be pretty much ignored.

Pretty sure the squads for this tournament are designed by the national selectors themselves.

 

[The_Odd_One]

No because the first-choice players and the backups have been already identified and some of these selected players have barely played any Cricket so it is a better idea to just stick with them at least until this world cup.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pretty sure the squads for this tournament are designed by the national selectors themselves.

Maybe they think pre-meditated sloggers have a better chance of succeeding in the world cup than proper batsmen then. Some of the batsmen in this tournament certainly look technically superior to Asif Ali and Talat Hussain. Personally I am fairly sure Fakhar will fail in England as well. Bowlers will have studied that these players can only hit the ball when pitched in certain areas and will make plans accordingly.

 

[cricketerB94]

I am actually glad to see the proper management of WC team this time around.

- The actual 10 - 12 players for world cup are already selected or you can call them as automatic selection.

- The core of those 10 - 12 players have been given rest at the best time because there was no gain in playing on UAE sluggish pitches when the actual event is on England flat pitches.

- They introduced new players in Australia series to fill the 3 - 5 remaining slots in world cup squad.

- They have found the players, announced the 23 probables, announced the fitness test dates and announced the WC squad announcement date.

- They did not depend on a domestic tournament to select players at 11th hour where even Khurram Manzoor would look like second coming of Bradman.

This whole scenario is quite unlike Pakistan and a very pleasant change in management.

 

[MenInG]

They could announce the probables but should have flexibility to change based upon results of Pakistan Cup

 

[Syed1]

Considering who the best bowler and batsman at the PC were I'm glad it was disregarded for WC selection

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

yep they should have waited.Wahab should have been in the probables and umar akmal also.Trundlers like junaid faheem and usman in the world cup squad is recipe for disaster.

 

[Chokli]

I am actually glad to see the proper management of WC team this time around.

- The actual 10 - 12 players for world cup are already selected or you can call them as automatic selection.

- The core of those 10 - 12 players have been given rest at the best time because there was no gain in playing on UAE sluggish pitches when the actual event is on England flat pitches.

- They introduced new players in Australia series to fill the 3 - 5 remaining slots in world cup squad.

- They have found the players, announced the 23 probables, announced the fitness test dates and announced the WC squad announcement date.

- They did not depend on a domestic tournament to select players at 11th hour where even Khurram Manzoor would look like second coming of Bradman.

This whole scenario is quite unlike Pakistan and a very pleasant change in management.

Good post, no matter what the management does people will always complain.

 

[Markhor]

One tournament isn't enough for a player to merit Pakistan selection. More pertinently, what have they been doing over the last 2-3 years ?

That's why Abid Ali should be on the plane - not because he had a great Pakistan Cup but because he's been performing in domestic and the A team for a few years now.

 

[hadi123]

They could announce the probables but should have flexibility to change based upon results of Pakistan Cup

I'm pretty sure they can change actually. Even though it's unlikely, it is possible that players who aren't part of the probables can make the squad

 

[Snowflake]

You plan the squad for the World Cup over 2-3 years, not wait till the very last tournament. Seriously, some of you just have to criticize for the heck of it.

For the first time in our history, some sort of planning has gone into forming the squad which is why there is very little uncertainty around the core group of players.

Looks like some of you are used to the usual panic and unplanned decisions that we've seen over the years around squad selection.

 

[Snowflake]

PCB nearly always makes a mess of when they name squads.

Announcing squads just before or during domestic tournaments is ridiculous and such a downer for the players who are to take part in that tournament.

If a player thought that a good showing in a domestic tournament, a month before the World Cup, is going to get him a place in the team, he's a fool.

 

[hadi123]

If a player thought that a good showing in a domestic tournament, a month before the World Cup, is going to get him a place in the team, he's a fool.

It won't necessarily, but Pakistan Cup can still be useful as there'll be question marks over some people so people who already have a 50 50 chance of going, this can make or break their chances.