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Should Pakistan invite Bangladesh to UAE for a full series?

Should Pakistan invite Bangladesh to UAE for a full series?

  • Yes, they should

    Votes: 52 69.3%

  • No, they shouldn't

    Votes: 23 30.7%
  • Total voters
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Pakistan was scheduled to tour Bangladesh for a full series towards the end of this month but the series was called off due to PCB's reluctance to tour Bangladesh for a third consecutive time without a return 'home' series.

Bangladesh last toured Pakistan in 2007/08 and since then, Pakistan has toured Bangladesh in 2011/12 and 2015. PCB supposedly does not invite Bangladesh to UAE because it is not 'profitable' for them.

PCB's stance on this is pretty clear. They want Bangladesh to tour Pakistan for a series (they had proposed a short T20I series which BCB rejected). The chances of inviting Bangladesh to UAE at the moment look to be 0%.

However, the question is - Is this the right stance? SHOULD Pakistan invite Bangladesh to UAE for a 'home' series? Or are they justified in their rigid stance whereby Bangladesh must exclusively tour Pakistan for the home series?
 
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Abdullah719 said:
Pakistan was scheduled to tour Bangladesh for a full series towards the end of this month but the series was called off due to PCB's reluctance to tour Bangladesh for a third consecutive time without a return 'home' series.

Bangladesh last toured Pakistan in 2007/08 and since then, Pakistan has toured Bangladesh in 2011/12 and 2015. PCB supposedly does not invite Bangladesh to UAE because it is not 'profitable' for them.

PCB's stance on this is pretty clear. They want Bangladesh to tour Pakistan for a series (they had proposed a short T20I series which BCB rejected). The chances of inviting Bangladesh to UAE at the moment look to be 0%.

However, the question is - Is this the right stance? SHOULD Pakistan invite Bangladesh to UAE for a 'home' series? Or are they justified in their rigid stance whereby Bangladesh must exclusively tour Pakistan for the home series?
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I hope they do, been so obsessed with cricket lately that ive been dying for a series and also since bangladeshes series vs australia has been canceled, we have hope
 
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I really hope that we do, it's double standards that we don't invite them to the UAE. I understand where the PCB is coming from regarding there being no profit for them, but I don't understand how. There is a lot of Bengali's in the UAE and I'm sure a lot of people will watch the series on TV.

Also, will give us fans something to watch. This period with no cricket is such a drag.
 
TBH, if Pakistan can afford to host teams like Windies, SL in UAE then surely hosting BD would be more profitable.

Bangaldeshi fans are the most passionate followers of Cricket in the World right now, so a Pak-BD series will be attracting a lot of eyeballs.
 
ODIs would probably be competitive between the two teams because we've always been terrible in ODIs in the UAE, while the likes of Mustafizur could thrive on such pitches and make life miserable for our batsmen.

Tests would be less competitive.
 
Muhammad10 said:
ODIs would probably be competitive between the two teams because we've always been terrible in ODIs in the UAE, while the likes of Mustafizur could thrive on such pitches and make life miserable for our batsmen.

Tests would be less competitive.
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And who else? Bangladesh has the worst bowling attack in the world.

Pakistan should invite Bangladesh if they want some easy wins.
 
Rayyman said:
And who else? Bangladesh has the worst bowling attack in the world.

Pakistan should invite Bangladesh if they want some easy wins.
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The cricketing strength of the two sides is probably not what is stopping PCB from inviting Bangladesh to UAE.

Even if we were to assume there would be 'easy wins' on offer, that's a lot better than having no cricket.
 
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Abdullah719 said:
Yes, unlike financial cricketing superpowers such as West Indies and Sri Lanka... :(
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Those 2 have a rich history behind them and they still have big names. BD has nothing to show for and I am sorry but your average Pakistani fan doesn't know anyone other than Shakib.
 
Bay Garrett said:
Those 2 have a rich history behind them and they still have big names. BD has nothing to show for and I am sorry but your average Pakistani fan doesn't know anyone other than Shakib.
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Every Pakistan fan knows about Riad Mushy Mashrafe mustafiz Tamim otherwise how can they even be cricket fans

And you think your fans know about gunathilaka Sandakan Ashley nurse etc etc a lot?

Do you know Lanka with their rich history could not:
1) host matches at night against Zim to cut costs
2) not even manage too much sponsor from their own local companies when we last toured there
3) play better cricket than a hapless Zimbabwe in their home turf.

No one cares about rich history. Same with WI

West Indies has such rich history. Very rich but you can count the number of people you see in the stands during international matches barring T20s
 
Bay Garrett said:
Those 2 have a rich history behind them and they still have big names. BD has nothing to show for and I am sorry but your average Pakistani fan doesn't know anyone other than Shakib.
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Have to agree with this. I am afraid I probably wouldn't even watch any matches with BD. Despite them going gaga over their own players, they don't have the star power. You can say all you want about WI (which has a lot of star power now with the return of the T20 mercenaries) and Srilanka but atleast you know the quality would be better than BD. I know not great reasoning but I think most of us feel that way. It is like we don't have anything to prove against BD
 
Executioner said:
Every Pakistan fan knows about Riad Mushy Mashrafe mustafiz Tamim otherwise how can they even be cricket fans

And you think your fans know about gunathilaka Sandakan Ashley nurse etc etc a lot?

Do you know Lanka with their rich history could not:
1) host matches at night against Zim to cut costs
2) not even manage too much sponsor from their own local companies when we last toured there
3) play better cricket than a hapless Zimbabwe in their home turf.

No one cares about rich history. Same with WI

West Indies has such rich history. Very rich but you can count the number of people you see in the stands during international matches barring T20s
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Who is Riad? I am sorry I have been watching cricket for 20 years and by your absurd logic, I am not a Pakistan fan. How can you say that about Pakistani fans?

Just so you know, PCB are not idiots. If they could earn even a few hundred thousand rupees from a BD series in UAE, they would not wait for a minute. The truth is no one in Pakistan feels your team brings any excitement. It does not matter what you think, its what the average Pakistani thinks that the PCB has to take into account.
 
NoBallZombie said:
Who is Riad? I am sorry I have been watching cricket for 20 years and by your absurd logic, I am not a Pakistan fan. How can you say that about Pakistani fans?

Just so you know, PCB are not idiots. If they could earn even a few hundred thousand rupees from a BD series in UAE, they would not wait for a minute. The truth is no one in Pakistan feels your team brings any excitement. It does not matter what you think, its what the average Pakistani thinks that the PCB has to take into account.
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You don't know Riad who scored two centuries in the 2015 world cup, and also in the recent champions trophy match where we beat NZ? He even played in your PSL.

And the reason why PCB doesn't invite Bangladesh is simple. They want to use Bangladesh to bring back cricket to Pakistan nothing else

Hosting Bangladesh is financially a big plus. Because unlike WI SL NZ we have a cricket crazy population. You can expect atleast 5 million people to watch the series which is excellent for TVR. And do you know that there are tens of thousands of Bangladeshi in UAE? They would flock to the stadium. And mind you Bangladesh economy has improved drastically so much that local companies even sponsor events abroad.

The excuse of Bangladesh not financially good enough is nonsense.

That means on paper Bangladesh are as good as WI SL but are likely to ensure better revenue.

And you are asking about excitement associated with playing Bangladesh. Recently Pakistan has just won one test in BD soil and have struggled elsewhere, fans might want to return the favor.

Or are you rather interested to see Ahsley nurse Braithwaite Chase play, your choice
 
Oh one more thing I have a lot of Pakistani friends and only a handful are die hard cricket fans and all of them keep asking me why PCB invites all this teams like wi filled with players they hardly know and not us. They find BD more exciting than anyone else.

And yes they know a lot about our players like fizz, even Rubel. Maybe Sabbir Soumya Mosaddek Miraz aren't heard about.

But I find it funny when posters(die hard cricket fans) on a cricket forum asks me who on Earth is Riad but your average cricket fan from Pakistan know about Riad. It's not like he is a nobody. He has performed on the world stage. This is a ridiculous way to undermine a team.
 
If common sense prevails then we should - no need to beat that dead horse anymore and postpone the Bangla series any longer.
 
Executioner said:
Oh one more thing I have a lot of Pakistani friends and only a handful are die hard cricket fans and all of them keep asking me why PCB invites all this teams like wi filled with players they hardly know and not us. They find BD more exciting than anyone else.

And yes they know a lot about our players like fizz, even Rubel. Maybe Sabbir Soumya Mosaddek Miraz aren't heard about.

But I find it funny when posters(die hard cricket fans) on a cricket forum asks me who on Earth is Riad but your average cricket fan from Pakistan know about Riad. It's not like he is a nobody. He has performed on the world stage. This is a ridiculous way to undermine a team.
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Its because he goes by Mahmudullah in cricket circles. Try using his commonly used name rather than getting offended.
 
Invite them for 3 Tests in small South African centres.

The time zone is perfect for evening TV, the accommodation is 20% of the UAE price, and the batsmen and bowlers would learn how to play in the conditions they will face Philander and De Kock in in December 2018.

And in small towns like East London, Kimberley and Bloemfontein curious locals would probably even come and watch.
 
Taaya said:
Its because he goes by Mahmudullah in cricket circles. Try using his commonly used name rather than getting offended.
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Mahmudullah, Riad both are a part of his main name. Surname is Mohammad
 
PAK should keep earning million by playing SL ZIM WI in UAE and memorise the world class upcoming players name instead playing BD.
 
I think this isn't about having anything against Bangladesh. It's simply that travel and accommodation costs for the hosting nation in UAE are extortionate and other places in certain parts of the year we either have the wet season or they have their own domestic cricket going on so grounds are hard to timetable for at short notice.

As for crowd attendance. I'm sure most people will agree that most of the revenue comes from TV than door receipts.

Pakistan have been looking to move away from UAE for many years, just the alternatives are not very good.

I'm sure if there was a good third country available they would immediately set up a series. Both countries need the exposure.
 
I highly doubt PCB will think of playing with BD on current scenario unless relationship improves than why not
 
PCB should invite them for a short tour of 2 tests and 3 odis in early September next month. It would be good practice before a big home series against someone like Eng or Aus for 3 tests and 5 odis
 
Even if pcb decides to invite bangla cricket team I don't think bcb will accept it and I'll be totally OK with it.
 
Bcb should send bangla cricket team only and if only pcb chairman formally apologise for his initial irresponsible comments.
 
We really should. We can't punish BCB for worrying about player safety. There's a lot of Bangladeshis in UAE and they are really passionate about cricket. Would be a very entertaining series
 
saeed5646 said:
lol first ban pak players from bpl than comeback and claim that
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Why would bcb do that? For ur kind information, Bcb is run by professionals, not by angry teenagers.

Mistake was made by the Pakistan cricket board and its chairman. Why would bcb give punishment to the Pakistani players for the mistake which was made by their board and their beloved chairman? That would be unethical.
 
Coconut said:
Why would bcb do that? For ur kind information, Bcb is run by professionals, not by angry teenagers.

Mistake was made by the Pakistan cricket board and its chairman. Why would bcb give punishment to the Pakistani players for the mistake which was made by their board and their beloved chairman? That would be unethical.
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i just suggested you a short and simple route for BCB

instead of cursing PCB again and again move on and cut all the nodes with pcb so it would be much appreciated

instead of picking one and rejecting other which is what BCB is doing.Surely BCB can find replacement of

top pak players easily
 
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saeed5646 said:
i just suggested you a short and simple route for BCB

instead of cursing PCB again and again move on and cut all the nodes with pcb so it would be much appreciated

instead of picking one and rejecting other which is what BCB is doing.Surely BCB can find replacement of

top pak players easily
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Nobody is cursing no-one. The problem between these two boards might get resolved automatically if pcb chairman acceptes his mistake and formally apologise for his initial ridiculous COMMENTS.

Even though the CURRENT BCB president is the son of the former president of Bangladesh, he has never shown any prejudice towards Pakistan and always tried his best to maintain a good cricketing relationship with PCB. It's pcb who showed their double standards and tried to blackmail bcb.

Now its pcb who must take the initiative to rebuild this broken relationship and the first step of this should be a formal apology from the board chairman of pcb.
 
The argument that hosting Bangladesh would not be financially viable is a non-starter. Bangladeshis form the largest migrant population in the UAE after Indians and Pakistanis so there would be far greater interest amongst locals for a series than for a WI or SL series, let alone amongst those watching on TV around the world.

Bangladesh is a much larger market than the likes of WI, SL and NZ, all of whom we've hosted in UAE. They are also an improving team, especially in ODIs, so there'd be competitive matches. Heck, they even whitewashed us in BD.

Pakistan plays relatively less cricket than other top teams. Our relations with India and Afghanistan is already sour, let's not needlessly imperil relations with another board.
 
Financial viability does not wash. Bangladesh is far more likely to attract sponsors, especially if you have a competent person pitching. Better recent playing record, and much bigger cricket watching population than SL or West Indies.

Bangaldeshi companies would also be willing sponsors to the series....heck, even Indian companies may opt to get in.

The whole thing is an excuse to try and strong-arm Bangladesh into being a guinea pig in playing in Pakistan. It won't work, so better to drop it, then have big schedule gaps. Not only does that ****** the growth of the players, but you also lose fan interest. Especially now, after the CT win, where sponsors and fans would be running to jump on the bandwagon......you just let the opportunity and momentum falter.
 
No. Aside from the fact their board is not trustworthy.... who wants to watch a boring series against a minnow. Let the players relax and recharge for proper sides.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
No. Aside from the fact their board is not trustworthy.... who wants to watch a boring series against a minnow. Let the players relax and recharge for proper sides.
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Thanks for your concern for the Bangladeshi team and players.
 
Abdulm123 said:
I hope they do, been so obsessed with cricket lately that ive been dying for a series and also since bangladeshes series vs australia has been canceled, we have hope
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is bangla vs Aus series really cancelled?
 
Eagle_Eye said:
No. Aside from the fact their board is not trustworthy.... who wants to watch a boring series against a minnow. Let the players relax and recharge for proper sides.
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well as much as I dislike Bangladesh cricket board and Afghan cricket administrators for their sheer arrogance towards Pakistan, I don't find Bangladesh cricket team boring. Lets be honest they are a much better and improved side and are not a walk in the park anymore.
 
Junaids said:
Invite them for 3 Tests in small South African centres.

The time zone is perfect for evening TV, the accommodation is 20% of the UAE price, and the batsmen and bowlers would learn how to play in the conditions they will face Philander and De Kock in in December 2018.

And in small towns like East London, Kimberley and Bloemfontein curious locals would probably even come and watch.
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This is actually not a bad idea.
 
Junaids said:
Invite them for 3 Tests in small South African centres.

The time zone is perfect for evening TV, the accommodation is 20% of the UAE price, and the batsmen and bowlers would learn how to play in the conditions they will face Philander and De Kock in in December 2018.

And in small towns like East London, Kimberley and Bloemfontein curious locals would probably even come and watch.
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Realistically that will never happen, but would be a very good idea
 
Bay Garrett said:
Those 2 have a rich history behind them and they still have big names. BD has nothing to show for and I am sorry but your average Pakistani fan doesn't know anyone other than Shakib.
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How many players can an average person name from Brazil or Argentina squad besides Neymar and Messi? It won't stop people from watching these teams play in the world cup. Similarly, after Virat Kohli goes out, Indian fans just don't leave the stadium.

Aside from Amir and Malik, a lot of BD fans may not know players from Pak team either, but it shouldn't stop people from watching cricket lol. Hell a lot of people may not know many players from even IPL, but it wont stop them from watching IPL. Like who is Sandeep Sharma?

On a side note, do you see more threads on this forum about WI, SRL, or BD?
 
I think PCB should invite for a short series( 3 ODIs and 2 T20Is). Test series will be one sided and boring and may not be profitable. However, LOIs will be closely contested and will garner interest among some neutrals as well.

Short series will also determine as to whether hosting Bangladesh in UAE is proftiable or not.
 
Won't happen thanks to the PCB's ego.

Pakistan miss a great opportunity here by not inviting them for 3/5 ODI's and a few T20's:

1. More entertaining ODI's (BD might even beat us in one or two games).
2. Better crowd in as more asians will be on the field.
3. Better sponsors as BD companies will be interested as well.

What a pity that our people are this short sighted. In the end we are only harming our own cricket as there isn't much to do till October.
 
Why are we so hell bent on playing, Bangladesh....FGS it's B.A.N.G.L.A.D.E.S.H. :facepalm: :facepalm: and not some ATG Aussie or WI side......

I say we cut off all ties with them and try to secure a series with either Aus/SA/Eng/Ind/NZ or even WI/SRL/ZIM would be much more worth everyone's time tbh....
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Why are we so hell bent on playing, Bangladesh....FGS it's B.A.N.G.L.A.D.E.S.H. :facepalm: :facepalm: and not some ATG Aussie or WI side......

I say we cut off all ties with them and try to secure a series with either Aus/SA/Eng/Ind/NZ or even WI/SRL/ZIM would be much more worth everyone's time tbh....
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all those teams are even more afraid of being blown to bits than Bangladesh. we even sent our women's team to Pak recently just to prove how ballsy we are, lol.

besides we are just days away from Shahryar chacha bragging to the media that after reaching the height of #6 in the ODI rankings, India wants to host Pak.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Pakistan was scheduled to tour Bangladesh for a full series towards the end of this month but the series was called off due to PCB's reluctance to tour Bangladesh for a third consecutive time without a return 'home' series.

Bangladesh last toured Pakistan in 2007/08 and since then, Pakistan has toured Bangladesh in 2011/12 and 2015. PCB supposedly does not invite Bangladesh to UAE because it is not 'profitable' for them.

PCB's stance on this is pretty clear. They want Bangladesh to tour Pakistan for a series (they had proposed a short T20I series which BCB rejected). The chances of inviting Bangladesh to UAE at the moment look to be 0%.

However, the question is - Is this the right stance? SHOULD Pakistan invite Bangladesh to UAE for a 'home' series? Or are they justified in their rigid stance whereby Bangladesh must exclusively tour Pakistan for the home series?
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Why can't we do a trial run with Bangladesh? Like only a 3 match ODI series and see if it was financially viable or not for a full series.
 
msb314 said:
Why can't we do a trial run with Bangladesh? Like only a 3 match ODI series and see if it was financially viable or not for a full series.
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That would make too much sense :P

I personally think it's more to do with ego, if we can host West Indies in the UAE, then I'm sure we could host Bangladesh as well. Also, PCB might be thinking that if we invite Bangladesh to the UAE, then in the future there is no chance of them coming to Pakistan. They are blinded by the fact that they are not coming either way.
 
PCB thinks that by bullying they can force Bangaldesh to tour Pakistan and then use their safe tour example to attract bigger teams.

Basically want to use Bangaldesh team as " Trial " .
 
PCB needs to maintain its relations with all the boards including Bangladesh. We should definitely play them.

I don't buy this not being financially viable. Bangladesh has a massive cricket following and they would make more from this than a series against SL or WI.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
That would make too much sense :P

I personally think it's more to do with ego, if we can host West Indies in the UAE, then I'm sure we could host Bangladesh as well. Also, PCB might be thinking that if we invite Bangladesh to the UAE, then in the future there is no chance of them coming to Pakistan. They are blinded by the fact that they are not coming either way.
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They will once we get out act together.

As of now - only Zimboks have toured Pakistan since 2009 so not sure why the expectation is for Bangladesh to follow suit as well.

We have already wasted too much time so I think we should just cut out losses and arrange the series with Bangladesh in UAE.
 
Junaids said:
Invite them for 3 Tests in small South African centres.

The time zone is perfect for evening TV, the accommodation is 20% of the UAE price, and the batsmen and bowlers would learn how to play in the conditions they will face Philander and De Kock in in December 2018.

And in small towns like East London, Kimberley and Bloemfontein curious locals would probably even come and watch.
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Umm...South Africa already did that. First test is at Potchefstroom and second is at Bloemfontein.
 
Not for more than one test match. That's what they usually get against India too.
 
czar said:
PCB thinks that by bullying they can force Bangaldesh to tour Pakistan and then use their safe tour example to attract bigger teams.

Basically want to use Bangaldesh team as " Trial " .
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Exactly. They just don't seem to realise the fact that bangla cricket board is far more professional and powerful than pcb. If pcb personnel were intelligent enough they would've realised that bullying tactics won't work against the 2nd best(richest) board from Asia.
 
Coconut said:
Nobody is cursing no-one. The problem between these two boards might get resolved automatically if pcb chairman acceptes his mistake and formally apologise for his initial ridiculous COMMENTS.

Even though the CURRENT BCB president is the son of the former president of Bangladesh, he has never shown any prejudice towards Pakistan and always tried his best to maintain a good cricketing relationship with PCB. It's pcb who showed their double standards and tried to blackmail bcb.

Now its pcb who must take the initiative to rebuild this broken relationship and the first step of this should be a formal apology from the board chairman of pcb.
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apology for what ?you cancel the tour in 2012 and now same have done by pcb in 2017 so at is all fair and

square i can bet you PCB will never ever apologies BCB
 
czar said:
PCB thinks that by bullying they can force Bangaldesh to tour Pakistan and then use their safe tour example to attract bigger teams.

Basically want to use Bangaldesh team as " Trial " .
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yeah PCB is doing wrong but it is ironic coming from the person who support BCCI on PAk/india series
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
That would make too much sense :P

I personally think it's more to do with ego, if we can host West Indies in the UAE, then I'm sure we could host Bangladesh as well. Also, PCB might be thinking that if we invite Bangladesh to the UAE, then in the future there is no chance of them coming to Pakistan. They are blinded by the fact that they are not coming either way.
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I also think it has very little to do with finance and more to do so with politics. PCB management still see Bangladesh as minnow and want them to tour Pakistan just like Zim did.
Pakistan v Bangladesh 3 match ODIs series would be exciting and closely contested.
I wish PCB management invites them for a short series.
 
I agree we should invite them because the Bangladesh cricket team is flying quite high in the clouds
 
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Pakistan vs Bangladesh

Salaam guys,

One thing ive noticed, i can't remember if or when Bangladesh has toured us in the UAE, why is that? I Really want to see a odi series between us and we need to avenge our odi series loss when we toured.
 
Why are there so many threads on Pakistan facing Bangladesh? If it happens great, if not it's no biggie.
 
Hasan123 said:
Why are there so many threads on Pakistan facing Bangladesh? If it happens great, if not it's no biggie.
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Mate, which other threads? Also we lost the last series so dont you think another series would be interesting? Also i was curious as to why Bangladesh haven't toured us
 
Nado_ said:
Mate, which other threads? Also we lost the last series so dont you think another series would be interesting? Also i was curious as to why Bangladesh haven't toured us
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Last series was all the way back in 2015 and if I'm not mistaken just two or three players who played in that series are still part of the side.
 
Nado_ said:
Mate, which other threads? Also we lost the last series so dont you think another series would be interesting? Also i was curious as to why Bangladesh haven't toured us
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This thread has been merged so that tells you something lol.

Last tour was cancelled by PCB I have no idea why. A series would be interesting but not as excited as half as PP would be for it.
 
saeed5646 said:
exactly what i think we should play who wants to play with us rather then beg BD,india or afg for a series
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A little adjustment will make it perfect
-" .... to play with us in UAE rather then beg ....."
 
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