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Champions Trophy has been scraped off. I would say WT20 should be scraped off too.

4 years is too long for a tournament. Bilateral ODIs are meaningless.
 
BDfanforever said:
Champions Trophy has been scraped off. I would say WT20 should be scraped off too.

4 years is too long for a tournament. Bilateral ODIs are meaningless.
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ODI's are built on bilaterals that has made cricket what it is today. WC matches make money but not cricket. Cricket is built on the supporters that play and support domestic competitions, this is where cricket is developed and lessons learned. ICC run events is only a showcase of bilaterals and domestic cricket. Bilaterals might be meaningless to you but this where the players for ICC events come from.
 
Charm of WC is that it happens only once every 4 years. Holders get to keep that for 4 years and others need to wait 4 years to claim it. It will lose value unless.
 
WengerOut said:
Charm of WC is that it happens only once every 4 years. Holders get to keep that for 4 years and others need to wait 4 years to claim it. It will lose value unless.
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Na it wont lose value .
The wc is the wc!
Todays life is faster than the 70s. People want instant gratification, they dont want to wait 4 years.
 
Captain caveman said:
Na it wont lose value .
The wc is the wc!
Todays life is faster than the 70s. People want instant gratification, they dont want to wait 4 years.
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Life became fast. But duration of seconds is still same. There are some basic things in life which never change.

Instant gratification itself loses value.
 
I think two years is still pretty long enough times. It will also give teams like RSA some redemption and maybe they can finally win a cup.
 
Itachi said:
Life became fast. But duration of seconds is still same. There are some basic things in life which never change.

Instant gratification itself loses value.
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Scientifically time varies according to ones perspective - einstein.
Anyway, its true instant gratification does in time lose value.
So for the mean time , biannually wc and world t20 are good. Then we need to progress to new and more exciting competitions.
 
No.

That comes in the way of IPL schedule. Having to reschedule IPL every 4 years itself is a bigger hassle. Having to move it every second year for the sake of a boring 50 overs world cup is not worth the headaches.
 
Hello_Guru said:
No.

That comes in the way of IPL schedule. Having to reschedule IPL every 4 years itself is a bigger hassle. Having to move it every second year for the sake of a boring 50 overs world cup is not worth the headaches.
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Oh i forgot about ipl(actually i didnt, i know that this will eventually destroy the ipl).
 
No! 4-year cycle is perfect and in-line with other global tournaments as well (think FIFA WC, Olympics)
 
No. The World T20 should be every 2 years and I would reduce the amount of T20 bilateral series.
 
Absolutely not. T20 world cup being every 2 years is fine but this is the biggest thing in cricket. Having it every 2 years reduces the value and charm of it.
 
Hasan123 said:
No. The World T20 should be every 2 years and I would reduce the amount of T20 bilateral series.
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Came here to write this. 4 years for the only meaningful international T20's to take place is illogically long.

It's the most accessible format for new fans to grasp and allows associates to compete on the international level far better than any other format.

Unfortunately though BCCI would never risk attention being taken away from their IPL cash cow by letting a bi-yearly international t20 tournament take place.

Sad, but it's the truth.
 
hitthestump said:
Came here to write this. 4 years for the only meaningful international T20's to take place is illogically long.

It's the most accessible format for new fans to grasp and allows associates to compete on the international level far better than any other format.

Unfortunately though BCCI would never risk attention being taken away from their IPL cash cow by letting a bi-yearly international t20 tournament take place.

Sad, but it's the truth.
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I agree. T20s is the way to get new countries into cricket. The profit these new countries make from T20s can be invested into a first class system.
 
Gilly said:
ODI's are built on bilaterals that has made cricket what it is today. WC matches make money but not cricket. Cricket is built on the supporters that play and support domestic competitions, this is where cricket is developed and lessons learned. ICC run events is only a showcase of bilaterals and domestic cricket. Bilaterals might be meaningless to you but this where the players for ICC events come from.
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This
 
I dont agree with both the suggestions.

Firstly all the world events happen with the gap of 4-5 years, due to various reasons which include the charm and importance which will diminish big time if it takes place every 2 years and as also the teams need that 4 years to develop, prepare and form their combinations accordingly to get themselves prepare for such a big stage. In 4 years teams can actually transform as we see with Eng now, with 2 years there wont be much change in the teams or they will be mostly in the transition face.

T20 is commercially one of the most successful forms of cricket and World T20 is one of the biggest earners for ICC, it should remain where it is.
 
Titan24 said:
I dont agree with both the suggestions.

Firstly all the world events happen with the gap of 4-5 years, due to various reasons which include the charm and importance which will diminish big time if it takes place every 2 years and as also the teams need that 4 years to develop, prepare and form their combinations accordingly to get themselves prepare for such a big stage. In 4 years teams can actually transform as we see with Eng now, with 2 years there wont be much change in the teams or they will be mostly in the transition face.

T20 is commercially one of the most successful forms of cricket and World T20 is one of the biggest earners for ICC, it should remain where it is.
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Only FIFA World Cup happens after 4 years which makes sense for soccer because there are so many countries. Also in soccer internationals are useless and no one really cares about it. Cricket is different and is played mostly at international level.

Rest of big events like UEFA Champions League, World Series, Super Bowl, etc are all held year after year. No one losses interest. They generate even more revenue than Cricket can ever dream of.
 
The longer the intervals the more valuable the event!

4 years is perfect in all sense. Every 2 years make it lose value as we have a new winner every other often and there isn't enough time to have a new team
 
Executioner said:
The longer the intervals the more valuable the event!

4 years is perfect in all sense. Every 2 years make it lose value as we have a new winner every other often and there isn't enough time to have a new team
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Maybe the bpl.should be every 4 years then, will make it more valuable by your logic.
 
4 years is fine for ODIs, the game is just too long anyway to attract new viewers.

WT20, however, should be held every 2 years.
 
BDfanforever said:
Only FIFA World Cup happens after 4 years which makes sense for soccer because there are so many countries. Also in soccer internationals are useless and no one really cares about it. Cricket is different and is played mostly at international level.

Rest of big events like UEFA Champions League, World Series, Super Bowl, etc are all held year after year. No one losses interest. They generate even more revenue than Cricket can ever dream of.
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The events you are mentioning do not involve nations rather clubs and franchises. Fifa World Cup, Olympics, Rugby World cup etc all take place with a gap of 4,5 years.

Like the events you are mentioning ICC is trying Test championship and ODI championship while T20 world Cup already takes place every couple of years.
 
By next world cup Rohit Sharma wont be able to run to make even a single, Virat Kohli will also lose his touch. This year I am already missing likes Mitchell Johnson, James Faulkner, Michael Clarke etc who were phenomenal 4 years ago.

However I am still hopeful of seeing likes of Hafeez and Malik.
 
Captain caveman said:
Maybe the bpl.should be every 4 years then, will make it more valuable by your logic.
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It's a domestic tournament. It's purpose is for players to play a lot of cricket each year and churn out money.

The world cup has tradition, it is the goal of every team.
 
Executioner said:
It's a domestic tournament. It's purpose is for players to play a lot of cricket each year and churn out money.

The world cup has tradition, it is the goal of every team.
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That is fine, but few more washouts this world cup is pretty much done and dusted. So thats about 8 years gap. Thats way too long and life is too short.
 
By the way Tennis also has players from all over the world, and it has four major tournaments each year. You dont see people losing interest in Tennis do you? Also, it’s usually the same winners all the time.
 
If I was the one making decisions at the ICC:

They need to introduce a new tournament for ODI's, Every 2 years. Since they scraped the Champions Trophy. I enjoyed the last version a lot of 8 teams, I think it totalled for about 20 days. 2 groups, Semi final and the final. Keeps interest in bilaterals for rankings too. Underdogs will have a chance as well!

The T20 World Cup should be every year, It is Cricket's biggest crowd puller and has revolutionised viewers to engage within the sport. Which eventually leads them to following the other 2 formats. Football has the Champions League, Tennis has Wimbledon, American Football has the Super bowl. I still don't mind the 2 years though but like I said that's just my opinion.

Despite what a lot say about Test Cricket. It's long, It's boring, Whatever. It's here too stay. I personally wouldn't change anything about it. So I'm very intrigued to see how the Test Championship runs its course.
 
Executioner said:
It's a domestic tournament. It's purpose is for players to play a lot of cricket each year and churn out money.

The world cup has tradition, it is the goal of every team.
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Players churning out money?
Cricket is about the love of the game, if money is your prime objective, theres much better ways to make alot of it than playing cricket!
If the longer the gap between wc's, the more valued it is, why not play the wc every 8 years or 10 years etc.
Its played evey 4 years to imitate the olympics. The olympics has over 190 countries competing in events, whereas the icc wc has 10!
 
How about be bit unique, as Cricket is one major sport only played by a handful of nations. Have the 50 ov WC every 3 years. Will be Different from football and rugby which is held every 4 years.
T20 remains the same!:
 
Hasan2K8 said:
That will be an overkill of cricket. I can see people getting bored and losing interest in the sport, with this idea.
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I dont think so. Most casual cricket watchers i know, didn't even know that a cricket wc was on.
If you have a big icc event every summer, then people will know that in the summer, there will be an icc cricket event!
 
No it should be every 4 years like virtually every other world cup and like the Olympics (summer and winter separately)
 
Every 2 years means that the importance given to the world cup will be less.
You may even have the same playing xis playing the next world cup if you know what I mean.
Having a world cup every 4 years means that the players in each WC will be mostly different.
 
Time is needed every season for Cricket boards to hold their own tours.

If you were to play a WC every two years then that would make extremely hard for any board to have enough time to hold its own competitions.

To be more clear a team like england, Pakistan would find it difficult to tour many countries in a four year period if they were preparing for two WC's in that time frame.

In the end the countries that would suffer the most would be the new teams because the bigger teams would find it incredibly hard to fit in tours to places like Bangledesh and Ireland.
 
Gilly said:
Time is needed every season for Cricket boards to hold their own tours.

If you were to play a WC every two years then that would make extremely hard for any board to have enough time to hold its own competitions.

To be more clear a team like england, Pakistan would find it difficult to tour many countries in a four year period if they were preparing for two WC's in that time frame.

In the end the countries that would suffer the most would be the new teams because the bigger teams would find it incredibly hard to fit in tours to places like Bangledesh and Ireland.
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The wc is only for 6 weeks!
Surely, you can afford 6 weeks every 2 years to play a wc.
 
Every world cup is played every four years whether it's the FIFA world cup or the FIBA world cup; once every two years is too soon, not allowing the world champions to hold their title for long, not allowing future hosts to prepare for a world event, not allowing teams to grow and mature into better contenders. OP is shortsighted and clearly doesn't follow other team sports, It's funny how most of these bizarre ideas come from Bangladeshi fans, it's like they think they'll win a world cup on a fluke if they play more often lol.
 
Pakistanian said:
Every world cup is played every four years whether it's the FIFA world cup or the FIBA world cup; once every two years is too soon, not allowing the world champions to hold their title for long, not allowing future hosts to prepare for a world event, not allowing teams to grow and mature into better contenders. OP is shortsighted and clearly doesn't follow other team sports, It's funny how most of these bizarre ideas come from Bangladeshi fans, it's like they think they'll win a world cup on a fluke if they play more often lol.
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This is based on the olympics model which is over 100 years old!
We live in faster times, where people require instant entertainment and instant gratification!
New people coming to the sport because
of the wc, will probably lose interest if they have to wait 4 years to see the next wc!
 
Captain caveman said:
This is based on the olympics model which is over 100 years old!
We live in faster times, where people require instant entertainment and instant gratification!
New people coming to the sport because
of the wc, will probably lose interest if they have to wait 4 years to see the next wc!
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Lol. You're making it seem like they play no cricket in the those 4 years.

The cwc will have barely any value if it is played 2 years after the other.
There needs to be some respect given to it.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Lol. You're making it seem like they play no cricket in the those 4 years.

The cwc will have barely any value if it is played 2 years after the other.
There needs to be some respect given to it.
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Your casual viewer , who might become a more regular viewer of cricket after watching th wc, will lose interest in cricket because they want to see big global multi nation events, not boring bilateral jamodis or god forbid test!
 
Captain caveman said:
This is based on the olympics model which is over 100 years old!
We live in faster times, where people require instant entertainment and instant gratification!
New people coming to the sport because
of the wc, will probably lose interest if they have to wait 4 years to see the next wc!
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Nobody wants that! only a few of you with impulse control issues are demanding. Playing a prestigous tournament too soon and too often strips away its significance.
 
Pakistanian said:
Nobody wants that! only a few of you with impulse control issues are demanding. Playing a prestigous tournament too soon and too often strips away its significance.
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Ok, lets make the wc even more prestigous by playing it once every 8 years then!
 
Captain caveman said:
Your casual viewer , who might become a more regular viewer of cricket after watching th wc, will lose interest in cricket because they want to see big global multi nation events, not boring bilateral jamodis or god forbid test!
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Tell the casual viewer to either watch cricket properly or not watch it at all.
Just coz a casual viewer wants only global multi nation events doesn't mean you actually give It to them. That's is just dumb.
 
Captain caveman said:
The wc is only for 6 weeks!
Surely, you can afford 6 weeks every 2 years to play a wc.
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Its not just six weeks, teams arrive a couple of weeks earlier for warm up matches and players will have some down time after the WC so you looking at up to three months to be prepared for the WC.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Tell the casual viewer to either watch cricket properly or not watch it at all.
Just coz a casual viewer wants only global multi nation events doesn't mean you actually give It to them. That's is just dumb.
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We need the sport to grow. In the uk, cricket is effectively an elitist/minority sport.
 
Gilly said:
Its not just six weeks, teams arrive a couple of weeks earlier for warm up matches and players will have some down time after the WC so you looking at up to three months to be prepared for the WC.
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You can do the whole thing including preparation in 8 weeks, if you get the format right. This current formst is too long and tiresome.
 
Captain caveman said:
We need the sport to grow. In the uk, cricket is effectively an elitist/minority sport.
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People are either interested in cricket or are not. There's no such thing as a 'casual viewer'. The casual viewer won't watch cricket after the WC so no need to accommodate them.
You should be more worried about the regular viewer.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Are you slow?
Football WC, the Olympics come after 4 years for a reason. It's the optimum break between world events.
2 years is too early. How do you not get it?
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How have you arrived at 4 years being the optimum? Please show me the equation thats comes to this conclusion, with all your working out please!
 
Captain caveman said:
You can do the whole thing including preparation in 8 weeks, if you get the format right. This current formst is too long and tiresome.
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Teams take a year minimum to prepare for the WC, which includes getting their team to play on wickets similar to the ones in the country hosting the WC. If the WC was held every two years it would degrade domestic competitions and drag spectators away from home matches. Strong domestic competitions make for a quality WC.

Furthermore if there was a WC every two years then the interest would be less and costs would be double, this would hamper the growth of cricket.
 
Gilly said:
Teams take a year minimum to prepare for the WC, which includes getting their team to play on wickets similar to the ones in the country hosting the WC. If the WC was held every two years it would degrade domestic competitions and drag spectators away from home matches. Strong domestic competitions make for a quality WC.

Furthermore if there was a WC every two years then the interest would be less and costs would be double, this would hamper the growth of cricket.
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You raise some good points sir.
But i believe that a biannually, wc is feasible and would benefit cricket in the long run. Obviously, the points you make about preparation and domestic cricket would need to be overcome, which i believe they can be.
If you take into account, we have been having an icc global event nearly every year(except last year), wc, world t20 and champion trophy.
In addition to this years wc, there will be 2 back to back world t20 in 2020 and 2021.
So, if this is possible, then i dont see why a bianually wc is not.
 
Pakistanian said:
lol you're not the brightest.

Bangladeshi fans should accept that tradition for world cups won't change. Work hard, put in the hard yards and wait your turn to win the world cup just like the rest of the nations have. You ain't fooling anybody here, you guys think you can win the world cup on a fluke if it's played really often :)) .
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I' m a brit of pakistani heritage(lahori) and i support pakistan! Though, i have nothing against bengladesh fans and wish them well(but not against us).
As all lahoris, we are impatient folk and we cant wait! Have you not seen the traffic in lahore or been to a wedding feast in lahore!
 
Captain caveman said:
You raise some good points sir.
But i believe that a biannually, wc is feasible and would benefit cricket in the long run. Obviously, the points you make about preparation and domestic cricket would need to be overcome, which i believe they can be.
If you take into account, we have been having an icc global event nearly every year(except last year), wc, world t20 and champion trophy.
In addition to this years wc, there will be 2 back to back world t20 in 2020 and 2021.
So, if this is possible, then i dont see why a bianually wc is not.
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Cricket is different in every country so it will have a different impact in each one.

Australia have a very limited season, cricket cannot compete against Aussie rules so it can only succeed in the off season for football. Taking away 2 months of the season every second year could be catastrophic for cricket in Australia.

Australia have not made T20 WC one of its priorities mainly due to this reason.
 
Gilly said:
Cricket is different in every country so it will have a different impact in each one.

Australia have a very limited season, cricket cannot compete against Aussie rules so it can only succeed in the off season for football. Taking away 2 months of the season every second year could be catastrophic for cricket in Australia.

Australia have not made T20 WC one of its priorities mainly due to this reason.
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Fair point.
Its not going to happen anyway, but would have been exciting from my point of view if it did.
 
scrap bilateral odi series altogether

have a odi championship every year, the same way we have champions league football every year
have a separate odi championship for associates, they same way there is a europa league.

teams play in the knockout stages home and away, scores are added together for both the games, so the team with more runs qualifies for the next round.

introduce promotion and relegation. this way teams who are knocked out in the first round are to play the second tier championship, the winner of the second tier championship automatically qualifies for for first division.


But of course this whole structure will collapse if india ever gets knocked out in the first round and ends playing Papua New Guinea, Japan in the second tier, just like in 2007 world cup
 
Gilly said:
Yeah I'm with you, I would love to see a WC every year.
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Sounds even better if it was every year(lol)!
Anyway, i wish you early congratulations on our game today, i can see you guys giving us a hammering with the overhead conditions today!
 
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