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Do you think umar amin's failure automatically lead to ahmad shahzad's inclusion?

And is it right decision to send umar amin to open the bat?
 
Starting with the basic truth that neither should be there, Amin deserved to start ahead of Shehzad
 
He is another Shehzad type batsmen. Should not have been selected in the first place.
 
If he is to play at all he should open. It is the position where he has had his best performance at domestic level.
 
He shouldn’t be in any LOI squad. Probably not even for Tests.

His fielding was bad today. Dropped 2 catches that weren’t difficult.

The guy is no longer a ‘youngster’ and has failed enough at the intl level to be deemed a TTF.
 
Should have taken those two catches... poor fielding technique, not suited for international level
Has done nothing in both innings he has played. Actually bowled good 2 overs in last ODI and that's it
 
Amin should be used in middle order. 5-6 position suits his play. Either Sarfaraz should open the innings or he should be shown the door.
 
This is exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket. He made 45 prior to yesterdays match. He deserves more than 1 match.

Oh wait, Ahmed shehzad will come and save Pakistan’s opening problems. You guys are right.
 
What choices one has? You have Shehzad and then you have this joke of a player.

Both should'nt play, feels like trying a lower order player as opener was the right decision.

Lousy Umar Amin dropped 2 important catches
 
Deserves to be out of the team. A failure at first class level, any surprise he's a failure at international?

Which idiot decided he's going to cut it at this level :facepalm:
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
This is exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket. He made 45 prior to yesterdays match. He deserves more than 1 match.

Oh wait, Ahmed shehzad will come and save Pakistan’s opening problems. You guys are right.
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What about the 2 drop catches, regulation chances at Intl level, what happened there?? If he's dropping 2 catches a game does he justify selection?

I can understand the coming in and scoring runs bit is a challenging but why is he dropping sitters ???
 
Shehzad will make a 30 at 95 strike rate and retain a place for the next few series
 
shehzad got series after series but his replacements get 2 or 3 games and the knives are out.... all the batsmen failed to score runs today...but to me the catches that he dropped should have been taken , he is a good fielder may be he already thinking that he will be dropped the next game..
 
What happened ? According to some resident pundits this guy was meant to be the freeflowing strokeplayer we all needed.

2 starts, 2 dismal failures.
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
This is exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket. He made 45 prior to yesterdays match. He deserves more than 1 match.

Oh wait, Ahmed shehzad will come and save Pakistan’s opening problems. You guys are right.
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Shahzad scored 80 off 50 against a world XI bowling attack at the ground he was dropped against a jobber Sri Lanka side
 
X is mediocre, but since Y got 1000 chances despite being mediocre, X should get equal number of chances to prove himself.

This statement is the single most important factor why our cricketing and political machinery is in turmoil.
 
Markhor said:
What happened ? According to some resident pundits this guy was meant to be the freeflowing strokeplayer we all needed.

2 starts, 2 dismal failures.
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Well your favourite revolutionary selected Ahmed Shehzad as backup so we don't have much choice do we? I'd much rather have months of failures with Amin, than a day of performance with Shehzad.
 
adzzy786 said:
Kind of missing Sharjeel Khan ...
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Its 2018 now, if Shehzad continues to play, Sharjeel will be missed in 2020 also. IT now feels like Sharjeel was ousted to make way in a controversial manner for Shehzad. Khalid Latif and Sharjeel would've hit these kiwi strategists out of the park. Huge loss for Pakistan cricket.
 
Couldn't cope with the bounce. Got out when he had nowhere to go. He's not so great technically, contrary to popular belief.
 
Umar amin fails all three T20 games in NZL and will be thrown away from all formats...like he was thrown after 4 tests in England at the age of 20... During that time the senior he had to look up to in tests was Afridi, Malik, Salman Butt and Kamran akmal in terms of batting advises and then never return to test cricket...Inconsistent chances shattered Amin and H.Azam especially spoiled lot of good years of cricket in them, when they get the chance they always play with a fear that they will not play next game or series..
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
Amin deserves to play at 5.
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I wouldn't play him at all even in first class. He is consistent in one thing and that is being a consistently useless cricketer.

Someone should have taken him aside and advised him to opt for an alternative career whilst still young..... career driving cabs now beckons.
 
This is kind of deja vu

something which happened in Asia Cup 2016, when Ahmed Shehzad was forcibly dropped due to attitude issues and not-a-new-bowl-player Khurram Manzoor was sent to replace him. And he flunked. Selectors were someone else. Then Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif replaced him and did superbly in 2016. They were involved in internal sting operation and suspended[banned later], the most cleanest hitter and good opener Shahzaib Hasan was also pulled into the allegation. And he has been out of cricket for an year now. Now this odi middle order player was inducted in the squad as opener. And Shehzad has not been dropped the whole year minus this odi series v nz. He was a total disaster and his strike rate has come down to 70 in t20. Shehzad was again selected for this T20.

Ther are some deeper forces at work in the board which are not allowing the opening tier and consistently forcing Shehzad on the team. This means opening slot will remain unstable for the time Shehzad is playing.
 
Umar Amin had a great domestic season to get an opportunity to play for Pakistan. He deserves another chance with this being said he does have weakness that need fixing. His fielding and technique need work.
 
He is soft player, who no one in his right mind should back for any role in the senior team. he has only oozed whatever imaginary class his fans see, when he played zimbabwe.
We already have enough soft players: malik, hafeez, maybe babar. why do we need more.
 
Umar Amin as I said in the past is not an international material.He is good for domestics only.He is a soft kind hearted bat who is not fit in hard fought internationals.
 
Syed1 said:
Well your favourite revolutionary selected Ahmed Shehzad as backup so we don't have much choice do we? I'd much rather have months of failures with Amin, than a day of performance with Shehzad.
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Shehzad > Amin. One has centuries against the top nations across formats. The other is now officially a TTF albeit a classy, left-handed TTF.

Inzi, please chuck him out.
 
Hamstead_joy said:
Its 2018 now, if Shehzad continues to play, Sharjeel will be missed in 2020 also. IT now feels like Sharjeel was ousted to make way in a controversial manner for Shehzad. Khalid Latif and Sharjeel would've hit these kiwi strategists out of the park. Huge loss for Pakistan cricket.
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Very sad indeed.
 
Hamstead_joy said:
This is kind of deja vu

something which happened in Asia Cup 2016, when Ahmed Shehzad was forcibly dropped due to attitude issues and not-a-new-bowl-player Khurram Manzoor was sent to replace him. And he flunked. Selectors were someone else. Then Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif replaced him and did superbly in 2016. They were involved in internal sting operation and suspended[banned later], the most cleanest hitter and good opener Shahzaib Hasan was also pulled into the allegation. And he has been out of cricket for an year now. Now this odi middle order player was inducted in the squad as opener. And Shehzad has not been dropped the whole year minus this odi series v nz. He was a total disaster and his strike rate has come down to 70 in t20. Shehzad was again selected for this T20.

Ther are some deeper forces at work in the board which are not allowing the opening tier and consistently forcing Shehzad on the team. This means opening slot will remain unstable for the time Shehzad is playing.
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Yes that is very suspicious, now I'm worried what will happen to Sahibzada Farhan if he plays.
 
Bilal7 said:
Shehzad > Amin. One has centuries against the top nations across formats. The other is now officially a TTF albeit a classy, left-handed TTF.

Inzi, please chuck him out.
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Amin has played 1 ODI and two T20 games so far since his return and failed in 2 matches where the ODI was just fast fix for malik and already failing batting department.. Ssuddenly Shehzad who failed in his last 10 games becomes better, he failed in UAE too...Amin's first tour to NZL , his teams batting department is on immense pressure to deliver which is also on him to score runs and score quickly...Inconsistent chances to Amin and Hammad has killed good cricketing years of both the players... Amin at the age of 20 played 4 tests in England and never return back... Same UAkmal never got the chance to play in UAE, Same is happening to Babar at the moment... He didnt get good game under his belt in UAE in tests and already the knives are out...

Shehzad in his last 12 months avg 15 in ODIs and in t20 avg 33 boosted up by the WORLD 11 series... if we cut down the world 11 , his avg becomes 22 with SR 101.5 across 6 games against SRL and WI...

Shehzad again if given a chance in the next game will make a slow 20 (30) and will get out or make 3 (12)...
 
TeymurBlake said:
Umar Amin had a great domestic season to get an opportunity to play for Pakistan. He deserves another chance with this being said he does have weakness that need fixing. His fielding and technique need work.
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he looks like under immense pressure to cement his place and the fear of getting dropped next game or series... As people will give Amin only 3 chances while shehzad gets 30 chances other than that he was a good fielder and safe catcher...
 
Once a tailender always a tailender. There's a reason why he averages so low with a sub 70 strike rate.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
he looks like under immense pressure to cement his place and the fear of getting dropped next game or series... As people will give Amin only 3 chances while shehzad gets 30 chances other than that he was a good fielder and safe catcher...
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I agree. Pakistani players tend to play tentatively so that they don't get dropped or out. Umar has come in to a team that is extremely low in confidence and expected to light the world on fire despite having no preperation.
 
khurram39 said:
Do you think umar amin's failure automatically lead to ahmad shahzad's inclusion?

And is it right decision to send umar amin to open the bat?
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Umar Amin should not be in the squad. Problem is his replacement Ahmed Shehzad also should not be in the squad. Inzi has absolutely taken worst decisions as chief selector for this series. :facepalm:
 
GUT NEED AT least 5 matches in a row,if he fails discard him.How many chances shhazad got??
 
There's one guy who I am confident is Umar Amin's relative that supports him no matter what. @da future knick
 
Railu Katta said:
There's one guy who I am confident is Umar Amin's relative that supports him no matter what. @da future knick
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I support him too. He and Hammad are greatest victims of inconsistent selection policies in the last 7 yrs. MISBAHs team will fail 95 % in batting and most likely will lose a series. His team even lost 4-0 in UAE to then England team under Cook captaincy. but they expect these juniors to perform and carry the old guns along with the team. That is why when MISBAH left there was no one as a settle batsman or a good enough player with experience to captain the team.
 
Hasan123 said:
Nothing from [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] to defend Amin?
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He is not a T20 opener - that was explained long back. His best bet was to open in ODI, which went to Ul Haq's nephew. Can't tell about NZ, but in UAE he would have been a treat to watch against Lankan pace battery.
 
No idea why Amin is being picked so often. There are better batsmen in the Pakistan domestic circuit.
 
Amin is absolutely useless even more so than Shahzad which is saying a lot. They both can't score in seaming or bouncy wickets and become a huge liability for the middle order. This is not to shift the blame on top order for middle order failings but they have to make some runs at the top for any team to put up a respectable score. Unfortunately neither Amin nor Shahzad are capable of scoring runs at the top.
 
Shehzad's basically the Selection Committees' first love. They literally can't get over him no matter what they try!! Sad!
 
Give him time. He has been in good form at the domestic level. So let's test him out properly. Won't be any worse than shehzad.
 
Opening with a player who's already nervous. That too in NZ, that is something only Pakistan team can do.

His selection will be answered sooner or later, but measuring him by throwing him at #1 is never the way. Shahzad should be there.
 
The only opening he should be doing is the door on the first flight back home.
 
Amin is useless down the order. If he is not good enough up the order then he is not good enough.
 
Amin along with Shehzad is the worst batsman to come out of Pakistan. He is incompetence and mediocrity personified.
 
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