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Shubman Gill is going to be the next big thing

jnaveen1980 said:
But for hype we would still be seeing the likes of KKD, Jadhav, Rayudu, Rahul. You have to bombard the selectors into selecting talented players
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All these are still playing,except Rahul ofcourse who himself was hyped.Gill will mostly be benched

My point is to keep expectations low as he's still young
 
First tour itself of NZ , hopefully shows concentration ,he is going to be surprised by line and length more than the speed.
 
Saurav said:
All these are still playing,except Rahul ofcourse who himself was hyped.Gill will mostly be benched

My point is to keep expectations low as he's still young
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Of all these people, Rahul should kick his backside the most. Look at the way leeches like Rayudu, DK keep popping up. They will do everything to make the team and on the other hand we have diva Rahul that speaks openly about how he's not a middle order batsman. Very disappointed with his progress. Kohli even tried batting 4 to accommodate this idiot at 3.

Yep Gill will be benched. Pant should at least be in the 16 but not sure why he isn't. For all we know, choker Shankar will be part of playing 11.
 
Saurav said:
All these are still playing,except Rahul ofcourse who himself was hyped.Gill will mostly be benched

My point is to keep expectations low as he's still young
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I can see you are being cautious this time and don't want to repeat the same mistake of overhyping a newbie just like you did with KL Rahul. Well done. :amir
 
This lad looked very good in the U19 world cup. Lot of class in his batting at the U19 level. Hope he will not replicate that at the international level and India will go to the world cup with Rayudu, Rahul, Karthik, Dhoni.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I can see you are being cautious this time and don't want to repeat the same mistake of overhyping a newbie just like you did with KL Rahul. Well done. :amir
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Bhaag bhai no paragraphs against IPL shooperstar Gill? Playing it safe this time? Not making a mistake of just like you did with Pant. Well done. :bumrah
 
JattMaula said:
Bhaag bhai no paragraphs against IPL shooperstar Gill? Playing it safe this time? Not making a mistake of just like you did with Pant. Well done. :bumrah
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Hes isnt an IPL superstar. He is a U19 WC winner.
 
I think the hype for Gill is because he's a classical batsman with decent technique. Also has good head on his shoulders. The last time India had a batsman with similar attributes went on to be one of the best batsmen in the world and is now a captain of India in all formats.
 
Slim said:
Hes isnt an IPL superstar. He is a U19 WC winner.
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True. Gill is a product of U19 and is selected based on his FC exploits. Not an IPL product like Pandya or Bumrah
 
Even though the timing is heavenly, he still plays a lot of airy fairy shots unlike his idol. Hope he rectifies that once he plays top level cricket consistently.
 
MP2011 said:
Even though the timing is good, he still plays a lot of airy fairy shots unlike his idol. Hope he rectifies that once he plays top level cricket consistently.
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Apart from pull shot and lofted shots which one is airy fairy? All his cover drives, on drives were all along the ground. These are collection of shots in a specific order.So you might think everything is airy fairy. Dravid strictly told him not to play in the air during U19 world cup. He obliged. Results are there to see.

Read this article

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...members-dravids-challenge/article22421198.ece
 
Hype is necessary to get talented players in the national squad or else selectors will keep selecting the same group of people.

Case in point...Mayank Agarwal.. he was continuously ignored inspite of fantastic domestic performances...

It's the job for us fans to get selectors to notice and give chance to talented individuals.. it's up to the players themselves to build up their careers from there.

Somehow Pakistani selectors don't care about what fans think or else we could have seen some new faces in the team. We keep seeing the same tried and tested players keep coming back into the team rather than new faces.

But...thank you for listening to fans and selecting Shaheen early. Please give chances to new batsmen as well.. we won't find another Babar unless we give new guys a chance.
 
I am looking forward to see how and when Prithvi Shaw is introduced to the ODI side.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Apart from pull shot and lofted shots which one is airy fairy? All his cover drives, on drives were all along the ground. These are collection of shots in a specific order.So you might think everything is airy fairy. Dravid strictly told him not to play in the air during U19 world cup. He obliged. Results are there to see.

Read this article

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...members-dravids-challenge/article22421198.ece
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I don't know, some of cover drives he played looked to be played in the air.

Whatever, Gill should've been part of India senior cricket setup from last year itself. Have wasted a lot of time on duds like Rayudu, Karthik, Pandey and Raina (all major lols).
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
He's 19. Kohli is 30.
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I know that.

Thats why I said, with constant exposure he'll rein in his habit of playing his shots in the air. Also, if you remember, Kohli hardly ever played his shots in the air right from his inception in cricket.
 
Oligochaetes said:
Hype is necessary to get talented players in the national squad or else selectors will keep selecting the same group of people.

Case in point...Mayank Agarwal.. he was continuously ignored inspite of fantastic domestic performances...

It's the job for us fans to get selectors to notice and give chance to talented individuals.. it's up to the players themselves to build up their careers from there.

Somehow Pakistani selectors don't care about what fans think or else we could have seen some new faces in the team. We keep seeing the same tried and tested players keep coming back into the team rather than new faces.

But...thank you for listening to fans and selecting Shaheen early. Please give chances to new batsmen as well.. we won't find another Babar unless we give new guys a chance.
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This!

Not selecting Mayank at least 2 years back is another big blunder by our jokers.
 
Ab Fan said:
He looks absolutely fantastic. Drives, cuts, airy shots- he seems to have it all. It will be a pleasure watching him coming to bat next to Kohli at 4.
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His grip of the bat is very Kohli-esque. He plays with soft hands, and his cover drives are carbon copy of Kohli. India is lucky to have such a talented player. Now, hopefully he fulfills his talent.
 
Both Shaw and Gill are special players. Shaw is more like Sehwag (not Tendulkar) and Gill is like Kohli. Gill will definitely turn out to be the better player but Shaw, like Sehwag, would become a very impactful batsman.
 
The guy is talented, there is no doubt about that. Has shown his glimpses of his talent in the first innings and now.
 
So jealous of India’s batting legacy. I hope the changes to Pakistan’s domestic system begin producing some real superstars. Oh how I wish. One more top tier batsman to accompany Babar.

Itni der mai ek aad batsman donate hi kardo, I know Shaw isn’t much of a hot commodity these days.
 
India's current and upcoming talents:-

KL Rahul
Mayank Agarwal
Shubhman Gill
Rishabh Pant :inti
Shreyas Iyer
Prithvi Shaw :inti
Devdutt Paddikal
 
Ab Fan said:
India's current and upcoming talents:-

KL Rahul
Mayank Agarwal
Shubhman Gill
Rishabh Pant :inti
Shreyas Iyer
Prithvi Shaw :inti
Devdutt Paddikal
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Any chance :inti will accept Pakistani passport if you don’t want them?
 
Needs to keep improving , he has the will, played a good second innings,hopefully can keep it up.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
So jealous of India’s batting legacy. I hope the changes to Pakistan’s domestic system begin producing some real superstars. Oh how I wish. One more top tier batsman to accompany Babar.

Itni der mai ek aad batsman donate hi kardo, I know Shaw isn’t much of a hot commodity these days.
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At least you have me in your Cornered Tigers team. [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] :inti
 
I believe he needs to improve his footwork and tighten the defence a bit. But he is young and will learn. Good thing is, on his debut test itself he probably faced the best bowling attack in international cricket. From here on and against other teams, he should find it comparitively easier.
 
This was a fast pitch. It was even quicker on day 1. He had loads of time to play his shots compared to others.
 
Saw Gill bat today facing front on pitch view live at the MCG. This is kid is special, he needs to work on his Sehwag type edging to slips however looks very promising.
 
Like the jib of this Gill kid, has a few flaws in his technique, but h is 21 hope he works on it, unlike Shaw.

Good thing is he is a attacking batsmen could even bat at 3 or 4.

Just needs to work on some of those flaws.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Solid bat. I want him batting @ no 4 in test cricket. He could potentially replace Kohli in all formats.
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You want him there because he's suited for that position or because you think he's the replacement for Kohli?

He's played most of his cricket at the opening position, and unlike the middle order of Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and Vihari, the opening position isn't settled right now in Tests. If Gill does well now, he would probably become the long-term opener even after Kohli retires, which should be a good 5-6 years from now if not more.
 
His backfoot game is top notch and looks so elegant when driving on the up as well. Just needs to be a little tighter around the Off Stump, but nothing that is alarming as such
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
You want him there because he's suited for that position or because you think he's the replacement for Kohli?

He's played most of his cricket at the opening position, and unlike the middle order of Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and Vihari, the opening position isn't settled right now in Tests. If Gill does well now, he would probably become the long-term opener even after Kohli retires, which should be a good 5-6 years from now if not more.
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Both. We need someone who is good at leaving the ball as opener, he does not look so ATM!
 
Gill dismissed for a duck in the 1st innings of the 2nd Test against England.
 
A day after getting called up to the Indian squads for the New Zealand T20Is and ODIs as well as the Bangladesh ODIs, Shubman Gill reinforced the selectors’ faith in his abilities when he smashed a 55-ball 126 against Karnataka in the quarterfinals of the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy at the Eden Gardens.

Playing for Punjab, the swashbuckling batter delivered a blistering knock which had 11 fours and 9 sixes. Gill, who will be making his T20I debut for India against New Zealand after the World Cup, was in fabulous form utterly devastating a Karnataka bowling line up.

With a strike rate of 229.09, this was also Gill’s maiden T20 ton and it couldn’t have come at a better time.

In the match, batting first Punjab lost opener Abhishek Sharma early for just 4 runs. They would then Prabhsimran Singh in short order as well before Anmolpreet Singh came in the middle and gave Gill the freedom to play his strokes. Singh played a patient 43-ball 53 as Gill rained fire on the other end. Punjab ultimately ended their innings at 225/4 after 20 overs.

Indian Express
 
Gill is just 52 runs away from becoming the highest run-scorer for India in a Test series
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Babar was supposed to be Kohli's successor lol. Now Kohli has retired and Gill has surpassed Babar.
 
So Gill has crossed the 500 runs barrier in a Test series already. Something that Tendulkar was never good enough to achieve in his entire career that lasted 24 years. Embarrassing.
 
Babar is 40+ avg Test batsman. Gill is more of sub 40 avg player in Test. He has found some rhythm in England while hiding from opening bowlers without facing likes of Jimmy and Stuart.
 
BDfanforever said:
Babar is 40+ avg Test batsman. Gill is more of sub 40 avg player in Test. He has found some rhythm in England while hiding from opening bowlers without facing likes of Jimmy and Stuart.
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So everyone who bats at 4 are "hiding" from opening bowlers. He is not a opening batsman. He was force dinto opening the innings.
 
BDfanforever said:
Babar is 40+ avg Test batsman. Gill is more of sub 40 avg player in Test. He has found some rhythm in England while hiding from opening bowlers without facing likes of Jimmy and Stuart.
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Naah, Babar's 40 average is due to the highways that were made. Average has been consistently going down.
 
Mamoon said:
So Gill has crossed the 500 runs barrier in a Test series already. Something that Tendulkar was never good enough to achieve in his entire career that lasted 24 years. Embarrassing.
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Both are Indian players.

Bumrah crossed the 30 wicket barrier in a test series in the BGT. Akram never could in his 17 year career. Embarrassing.
 
At the age of 25 innings/century count of each player in history. Gill a century every 7.44 innings. 6th on the list behind Kane.


PlayerMatInnsInnings/Century
DG Bradman (AUS)284215
RN Harvey (AUS)295111
GS Sobers (WI)427113
SR Tendulkar (IND)6810519
KS Williamson (NZ)509214
Shubman Gill (IND)36679
AN Cook (ENG)6311315
MD Crowe (NZ)42709
IT Botham (ENG)41648
Javed Miandad (PAK)528310
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)49789
GC Smith (ICC/SA)549611
JE Root (ENG)539811
JH Kallis (SA)52849
AB de Villiers (SA)58999
RR Sarwan (WI)621129
KC Brathwaite (WI)531008
 
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Naaah. I’m saying this now — I’ve watched Gill closely. His technique, his footwork, and especially his struggle whenever the pitch does a bit — it’s clear. If India keeps playing on turning tracks at home, Gill is going to continue struggling.

People get excited about his England runs, but let’s be honest — England pitches aren’t what they used to be. They’ve flattened out a lot, and the bowling has become inconsistent. That’s why he cashed in. On a green-top or a proper Dukes swinging track, he wouldn’t have lasted long.

Now to give him credit — yes, he’s a flat-track bully. But here’s the thing — at least he makes it count. He doesn’t stop at 100 and throw it away like Babar. Gill goes on to score big. That’s one quality that sets him apart. Babar can’t dream of playing long impactful innings like that consistently.

But let’s not ignore his flaws — like Kohli, even Gill loses focus early in the innings. He’s obsessed with feeling bat on ball. Those flashy cover drives outside off in the first few overs? That’s not confidence — that’s lack of patience. He still doesn’t have that old-school grit to leave, defend, and grind it out when needed.

Gill is, in reality, a 40–45 average batsman. He’ll score runs in Australia — those hard, true pitches suit his style. But the moment there's variable bounce or movement, he looks vulnerable. So no, let’s not get carried away just yet. He’s good, but he's not that guy in all conditions. Not yet and I dnt think he every will be.
 
RKhan_Cricket said:
Naaah. I’m saying this now — I’ve watched Gill closely. His technique, his footwork, and especially his struggle whenever the pitch does a bit — it’s clear. If India keeps playing on turning tracks at home, Gill is going to continue struggling.

People get excited about his England runs, but let’s be honest — England pitches aren’t what they used to be. They’ve flattened out a lot, and the bowling has become inconsistent. That’s why he cashed in. On a green-top or a proper Dukes swinging track, he wouldn’t have lasted long.

Now to give him credit — yes, he’s a flat-track bully. But here’s the thing — at least he makes it count. He doesn’t stop at 100 and throw it away like Babar. Gill goes on to score big. That’s one quality that sets him apart. Babar can’t dream of playing long impactful innings like that consistently.

But let’s not ignore his flaws — like Kohli, even Gill loses focus early in the innings. He’s obsessed with feeling bat on ball. Those flashy cover drives outside off in the first few overs? That’s not confidence — that’s lack of patience. He still doesn’t have that old-school grit to leave, defend, and grind it out when needed.

Gill is, in reality, a 40–45 average batsman. He’ll score runs in Australia — those hard, true pitches suit his style. But the moment there's variable bounce or movement, he looks vulnerable. So no, let’s not get carried away just yet. He’s good, but he's not that guy in all conditions. Not yet and I dnt think he every will be.
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He'll prolly end up with a Kohli like average, touch 50+ at his peak which goes down to 47-48. 8000-10000 runs at 47-48 with 30+ centuries ain't bad.

He averaged something like 60 in the 2024 home season.

Jaiswal/Pant prolly similar too.

3 of those guys at the same time mean India are gonna dominate a lot especially when they reach that 29-33 age.
 
RKhan_Cricket said:
Naaah. I’m saying this now — I’ve watched Gill closely. His technique, his footwork, and especially his struggle whenever the pitch does a bit — it’s clear. If India keeps playing on turning tracks at home, Gill is going to continue struggling.

People get excited about his England runs, but let’s be honest — England pitches aren’t what they used to be. They’ve flattened out a lot, and the bowling has become inconsistent. That’s why he cashed in. On a green-top or a proper Dukes swinging track, he wouldn’t have lasted long.

Now to give him credit — yes, he’s a flat-track bully. But here’s the thing — at least he makes it count. He doesn’t stop at 100 and throw it away like Babar. Gill goes on to score big. That’s one quality that sets him apart. Babar can’t dream of playing long impactful innings like that consistently.

But let’s not ignore his flaws — like Kohli, even Gill loses focus early in the innings. He’s obsessed with feeling bat on ball. Those flashy cover drives outside off in the first few overs? That’s not confidence — that’s lack of patience. He still doesn’t have that old-school grit to leave, defend, and grind it out when needed.

Gill is, in reality, a 40–45 average batsman. He’ll score runs in Australia — those hard, true pitches suit his style. But the moment there's variable bounce or movement, he looks vulnerable. So no, let’s not get carried away just yet. He’s good, but he's not that guy in all conditions. Not yet and I dnt think he every will be.
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You are literally talking about every single batsman in the world. What has Kane williamson done in moving conditions or Root in turning conditions? Smith at his peak could invent a technique on the fly and try adapt. Even he struggles these days. Every single batsman struggles when there is unusual movement. Besides Gill constantly tinkers with his technique. The reason he did well in the first two tests because he was standing well outside the crease negating the inward moving deliveries. Then Stokes brought keeper up. That kinda messed up his mind. Lost his focus. But he constantly works on his tecnique. From Tendulkar to Kohli they all tinkered with stance, technique everything to adapt. Gill is just following the same thing. Rock Solid Dravid also had issues against incoming deliveries. He found a way. Same way he will find a way. He has some unusually unique backfoot off side shot that will set him apart from Kohli. Kohli can never play that shot.
 
saimayubera said:
He'll prolly end up with a Kohli like average, touch 50+ at his peak which goes down to 47-48. 8000-10000 runs at 47-48 with 30+ centuries ain't bad.

He averaged something like 60 in the 2024 home season.

Jaiswal/Pant prolly similar too.

3 of those guys at the same time mean India are gonna dominate a lot especially when they reach that 29-33 age.
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I think Rishab will go through a huge slump. He won't be having that typical batsman peak because of his style of play.
Jaiswal I need to see more for atleast 3 years before making any comments on him.
Gill as I said earlier will struggle in most of the conditions except england flat tracks and to some extent Australia. I am here and telling you Watchout his struggle in newzealand and South Africa as well as westindies bangaladesh and srilanka.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You are literally talking about every single batsman in the world. What has Kane williamson done in moving conditions or Root in turning conditions? Smith at his peak could invent a technique on the fly and try adapt. Even he struggles these days. Every single batsman struggles when there is unusual movement. Besides Gill constantly tinkers with his technique. The reason he did well in the first two tests because he was standing well outside the crease negating the inward moving deliveries. Then Stokes brought keeper up. That kinda messed up his mind. Lost his focus. But he constantly works on his tecnique. From Tendulkar to Kohli they all tinkered with stance, technique everything to adapt. Gill is just following the same thing. Rock Solid Dravid also had issues against incoming deliveries. He found a way. Same way he will find a way. He has some unusually unique backfoot off side shot that will set him apart from Kohli. Kohli can never play that shot.
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I genuinely think Shubman Gill will struggle in most overseas conditions, barring maybe England (on flatter tracks) and to some extent Australia. His game isn’t built to handle either quality spin or early swing/seam, and we’ve seen enough glimpses of that in the IPL and international cricket.

He has clear issues against spin, which is evident on Indian and subcontinent pitches. But it doesn’t stop there. In modern-day cricket, players don’t get enough time to work deeply on their techniques—there’s just too much going on: bilateral series, IPL, media duties. Without a proper break to work on his game, I don't see Gill evolving beyond surface-level adjustments.

Even Kohli, for all his greatness, never fully resolved his technical flaws. His 2018 England success had plenty of luck—multiple dropped chances. Without those, even that tour could’ve looked very different.

Gill’s technique suits Australian pitches—true bounce, pace on the ball. But beyond that, here’s where I see problems:

India – Struggles against spin.

New Zealand – Excessive swing and seam in the first innings.

West Indies – Early swing with the Dukes ball; challenging to open the innings there.

South Africa – Lateral movement, awkward bounce. Not as steep as Australia, but still testing.

Bangladesh – Low, slow, spinning wickets. Again, trouble.

So what’s left? England (on flat tracks) and Australia. That’s not enough for a batter of his caliber.

These are just my observations, but after watching him for over 5 years, I don’t expect a drastic technical overhaul—just minor patches. That’s not going to be enough at the highest level.

Jaiswal, on the other hand, has the game for turning pitches. If he can cut out the brain-fade moments, I see him succeeding across more conditions than Gill.
 
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