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"So far, I have not seen anything special in Haris Sohail" : Wasim Akram

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Wasim Akram speaking on TV:

"Our batting is weak as we have seen in this first ODI game"

"When you have inexperienced batsmen in your team then you bat first if you win toss"

"Our bowling is strong and if we had even scored 270 then our bowlers would have restricted them"

"Chasing 280+ against NZ bowling in NZ is next to impossible"

"Shoiab Malik has the ability to bowl 5 overs in an ODI especially against left-handed players"

"Shoaib has to tell the captain and coach that he is in the team as an all-rounder"

"So far I have not seen anything special in Haris Sohail"

"If we are 3-0 down maybe we can play Imam and Haris"

"West Indies have been beaten quite convincingly by NZ in recent times and yes, we won the CT but that is gone now, lets talk about the present"

"Question is whether we will be able to compete with NZ in this series or not"
 
Me too. Haris is nothing special. Move on in the quest for next big thing.
 
Oh shut up man. Let's carry onplaying the special one Hafeez then eh. Our ex cricketers are a bunch of idiots.
He is right. Our hate for Hafeez should not cloud our judgement of Haris Sohail.
 
I honestly think that our ‘experts’ and former cricketers don’t actually watch the game.

I’m not talking about the comment about Haris but the bit about scoring 280+ against nz in nz is impossible. It really isn’t.
 
H sohail is glorified here on PP because he scored some decent 40s in the 2015 wc.

The guy even if fully fit and great form isn't going to drastically improve our side in ODI cricket. Doesn't seem to have the mindset to cash in on his great starts at the crease either.
 
H sohail is glorified here on PP because he scored some decent 40s in the 2015 wc.

The guy even if fully fit and great form isn't going to drastically improve our side in ODI cricket. Doesn't seem to have the mindset to cash in on his great starts at the crease either.

He is glorified because Hafeez is playing ahead of him.
 
Agreed. Good test player. Mediocre LOI player. Gets in a tangle against spin, which Hafeez does play well.
 
I don't see him being great either but better than Hafeez for sure :))
 
He is glorified because Hafeez is playing ahead of him.

Yes but you must remember that Hafeez actually tuernex up to two of the biggest games for Pakistan last year with the bat. I don't think posters are being fair to him. I will still take him because the guy can actually give it a whack once in full flow
 
Agreed. Good test player. Mediocre LOI player. Gets in a tangle against spin, which Hafeez does play well.

Do I need to remind you of Hafeez average in Eng/NZ/SA/Aus? He is rubbish against half decent pace bowling
 
Wasim never had the eye for talent. He sees himself in every mediocre left handed pacer that comes to bowl. He should stick to telling bowlers to flick their wrists for swing.
 
Wasim Akram speaking on TV:

"When you have inexperienced batsmen in[...]

Whatever follows is irrelevant, because all the" inexperienced" batsmen did well. The problem is the experienced batsmen since the only experience they have is in failing on a consistence basis.
 
And our inexperienced batting had almost won us the match if not for the experienced customers being rubbish.
 
Do I need to remind you of Hafeez average in Eng/NZ/SA/Aus? He is rubbish against half decent pace bowling
Haris Sohail won't be much of an improvement. Would love to be proven wrong, but he just doesn't have the range of shots for LOI cricket.
 
Although Haris may not be a special talent, he certainly is a very good one. How many special batting talents do we have in the first place?
 
Haris Sohail won't be much of an improvement. Would love to be proven wrong, but he just doesn't have the range of shots for LOI cricket.

Any batsman over Hafeez is an improvement imo

Play Imam at 4 and will be a improvement
 
Any batsman over Hafeez is an improvement imo

Play Imam at 4 and will be a improvement
Hussain Talat is an ideal replacement for Hafeez. Very confident stroke play. Or Sohaib Maqsood if he can maintain this form.

The current squad has no one who can replace Hafeez. The best we could do is send Sarfraz up the order and demote Hafeez to number 6, or play Aamer Yamin as a batter and drop Hafeez altogether
 
So far,you are not watching,Wasim.

Haris is an improvement over Hafeez and Malik on these wickets.
 
I understand that the hype around Haris is a little over the top but nothing special? at all? You mean to tell me he is such an ordinary talent that "The Special one" Hafeez gets to play ahead of him in these conditions? Surely the batsman who was recently your best batsman on debut in the SL test series has to have something going for him. Besides how many special batsmen do we have who average 41 with a SR of 80+ like Haris?
 
He is glorified because Hafeez is playing ahead of him.

This ends the thread right here. Haris is not God send batting phenomenon but the other tripe that is being given matches ahead of him is ridiculous.
 
Maybe we should take a cue from Wasim's selection policy at Multan Sultans. Not.
 
Clearly shows Wasim's views should be taken with the pinch of salt. Harris Sohail is nothing special and that our batting is inexperienced.lol
 
Maybe we should take a cue from Wasim's selection policy at Multan Sultans. Not.

Wasim has assembled a fearsome top-order with Ahmed Shehzad, Shan Masood, Darren Bravo and Kumar Sangakkara.

All very special batsmen, specially for the shortest format.
 
Whatever follows is irrelevant, because all the" inexperienced" batsmen did well. The problem is the experienced batsmen since the only experience they have is in failing on a consistence basis.

It appears that all experienced players and seniors are above and beyond criticism.

Can't wait for this mentality to be eradicated from Pakistan cricket. It will take time, though.
 
Me too. Haris is nothing special. Move on in the quest for next big thing.

Can't agree with you more. Maybe a rejuvenated Maqsood or the young gun Saud Shakeel an be better replacements for Hafeez than him.
 
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Clearly shows Wasim's views should be taken with the pinch of salt. Harris Sohail is nothing special and that our batting is inexperienced.lol

Unless Harris has played an extraordinary knock at international level or even PSL...what makes you think we should not take your comment with a pinch of salt about Wasim Akram
 
Going by his comments it doesnt look like. We need younger players in the team instead some1 like Hafeez.

He watched it with the 'senior-bias' spectacles on.

When you watch with those on, everything good is done by seniors and everything bad by 'inexperienced' players. :trump2
 
Haris >>> hafeez

Simple even if Haris is not the next big thing, he is better option than Hafeez or even Azhar right now (Baber can open)
 
Any batsman over Hafeez is an improvement imo

Play Imam at 4 and will be a improvement

At this point a stick on the ground would be a better batsman than Azhar and Hafeez.
 
If you're talking about his output then you are right, otherwise he seems better than most of Pakistani bat holders.
 
Babar has been hard done by due to lack of DRS so many times that it makes sense for him to open.... if he comes out to open there will less opportunity for batsmen to waste a DRS which he could have used lol
 
Unless Harris has played an extraordinary knock at international level or even PSL...what makes you think we should not take your comment with a pinch of salt about Wasim Akram

Can you please name Hafeez's extraordinary innings?
 
ct 2017 final

So he is has been playing since 2003 (roughly 15 years) and the only extraordinary innings that comes to mind is a fifty just six months ago? Mashallah

We are truly blessed
 
Unless Harris has played an extraordinary knock at international level or even PSL...what makes you think we should not take your comment with a pinch of salt about Wasim Akram

How much has he played? The limited chances he has got he has shown good potential with the bat. For example he was played in the ODIs as a lower order batsman which was not his ideal position to bat at but yet he scored 40s 50s at quick pace against quality bowling attacks of NZ and Aus. He looked our best ODI batsman pre injury and now you are questioning his talent. I'm not sure if you watched our test series against Sri Lanka but if you did then you must remember how Sri Lankan commentator were praising harris batting and said he is pure class.
 
Taking Harris out now is very premature and is going to dent his confidence. You have to give him time and not set unreasonable expectations for him. Harris over Hafeez any day
 
Can you please name Hafeez's extraordinary innings?

Nothing extraordinary but the guy did turn up in the semi final and final of the champions trophy. They were flat belters and he played 2 very fluent innings against two very good bowling attacks. His experience at this level saw us through in the semis and he gave the finishing we needed in the finals, for India to truly feel that Pakistan has set up a mammoth score.

Hafeez really needs a big innings somewhere I agree. But Haris sohail should have actually been groomed in the ODI series against jobber Lanka side.
 
How much has he played? The limited chances he has got he has shown good potential with the bat. For example he was played in the ODIs as a lower order batsman which was not his ideal position to bat at but yet he scored 40s 50s at quick pace against quality bowling attacks of NZ and Aus. He looked our best ODI batsman pre injury and now you are questioning his talent. I'm not sure if you watched our test series against Sri Lanka but if you did then you must remember how Sri Lankan commentator were praising harris batting and said he is pure class.

No doubt he is talented. He is the Jack Wilshere of cricket these days. But I don't deny what Wasim Akram has said, he has not scored that blistering hundred for us to think that he is a gaurenteed mainstay. Too much time out and not sparkling back into that wc form on his return has done him no favours
 
Get your eyes checked Mr. Lock your wrists and flick.Haris is much better than all the batsman in this squad. He will prove his worth just need some chances.Azhar should be dropped for him.
 
Unless Harris has played an extraordinary knock at international level or even PSL...what makes you think we should not take your comment with a pinch of salt about Wasim Akram

Haris won a match single handedly against NZ in UAE while chasing from an unlikely position.
 
100% , i am agree with you, How will we see if we not allow them to play. we can only see that he is just warming the bench.
 
If I remember correctly, he was playing second fiddle to Shahid Afridi in that match.

He came in at 3-40, much before Afridi who came in when the score was 124.. Haris had to soak in a lot of pressure. Ofcourse Afridi played an important knock but if you watch that match again, it was Haris who controlled the chase perfectly. Afridi was just doing what he usually does. Haris ended up with an ubeaten 85 to see the team through.
 
He came in at 3-40, much before Afridi who came in when the score was 124.. Haris had to soak in a lot of pressure. Ofcourse Afridi played an important knock but if you watch that match again, it was Haris who controlled the chase perfectly. Afridi was just doing what he usually does. Haris ended up with an ubeaten 85 to see the team through.
Yes I remember he scored 85 runs. But it was Afridi who changed the complexion of the match, not Haris. Not a knock on Haris for sure, that was a brilliant innings. But I think he just lacks the range of shots required in LOI cricket. Seen him struggle to rotate strike a few times in his short career.
 
Haris Sohail is not special but he is a better option than the crap Hafeez.

Hafeez is handy as an all rounder. But since he can't bowl, he is useless as a genuine full time batsman. Haris should replace Hafeez immediately. Because Haris is the only possible replacement from the available bench strength.

Sarfraz should bat at upper numbers between 1 to 4. not below that this.
 
There is nothing special in him just in one year pak fans will be demanding to replace him with another player.
Only young guns can solve this problem not a 30 year old guy.
 
This is the same guy that said nothing is wrong with Ahmed shehzad. He's an awful cricket expert these days and I really don't take many of his statements seriously and you guys shouldn't either. A disgraceful comment on haris sohail who is one of the most talented batsman in Pakistan right now. It's a pity he had to miss a few years but he's performing well in domestics meaning he deserves a call up. Such stupid experts really ought to keep their mouth shut.
 
Wasim Akram speaking on TV:

"Our batting is weak as we have seen in this first ODI game"

"When you have inexperienced batsmen in your team then you bat first if you win toss"

"Our bowling is strong and if we had even scored 270 then our bowlers would have restricted them"

"Chasing 280+ against NZ bowling in NZ is next to impossible"

"Shoiab Malik has the ability to bowl 5 overs in an ODI especially against left-handed players"

"Shoaib has to tell the captain and coach that he is in the team as an all-rounder"

"So far I have not seen anything special in Haris Sohail"

"If we are 3-0 down maybe we can play Imam and Haris"

"West Indies have been beaten quite convincingly by NZ in recent times and yes, we won the CT but that is gone now, lets talk about the present"

"Question is whether we will be able to compete with NZ in this series or not"

He first says our batting is weak and then implies that there is no need to change the batting line up until we are 3-0 down. If you know something is wrong you change it. You don't wait for us to lose the series to change the batting line-up. A load of awful statements from an "expert".
 
"So far I have not seen anything".

Should have stopped talking at this point Wasim.
 
inexperienced batsmen? Does he realize that the only batsmen that actually performed were the inexperienced ones.....
 
Haris is not special by international standards, but he is very good by Pakistani standards.

To say that he is among the top 3 batsmen in the country will not be an exaggeration.

It is criminal to restrict him to the bench and allow inferior batsmen like Hafeez and Azhar a free ride.

Wasim’s opinions have nosedived in recent years but I think he is judging Haris by comparing him with some of the best batsmen other countries have to offer. However, you don’t do that when it comes to Pakistani batsmen.

Our so-called best batsmen will always come up short if you compare them with the best of what India, Australia, England and South Africa etc. have to offer.

That has not changed and never will.
 
wait wasim agree's with me? how dare he say what he did. I mean haris is the second coming of miandad and hanif all rolled into one..time to blacklist wasim bhai from pp..
 
Not that convincing...
Pakistan is enemy of itself..Destroyed umar akmal and many others like him..
It still believe umar akmal be made opener and he will be phenomenal and haris in middle order..someone in pakistan talk to selectors...
Umar akmal
Fakhar zaman
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Shoaib
Fahim
Shahdab
Hasan
Amir
Junaid
 
He is definitely overhyped on PP but still rather play him than Hafeez. He not a dynamic ODI player. His strike rotation not that great but at least he can grit it out and get some runs. He is still young and can improve on aspects of his game.

What is upside of Hafeez if he can't bowl? No upside. Will be on the wrong end of 35+ next World Cup. Invest in someone now so they can make a impact on the WC. Its great Fakhar worked out in CT but not every player will end up like that.
 
Wasim just wants to see his senior mates like Hafeez in the playing Xl.

However I agree that Haris is way overrated. He is almost 30 and was touted as the next big thing.
 
but but but he hit beautiful 2 fours during the WC against India. Our team has the same one dimension batsmen from 1 to 6 and we really need to change that. Haris Sohail should be a replacement for Malik..Hafeez needs to be chopped..and Azhar Ali will also eventually have to make way. You just can't have more than 3 batsmen of this kind and we seriously have 6 right now.
 
Pakistan need to get rid of Hafeez and Azhar ASAP. Both can be easily replaced by younger and better batsmen.
 
Yes I remember he scored 85 runs. But it was Afridi who changed the complexion of the match, not Haris. Not a knock on Haris for sure, that was a brilliant innings. But I think he just lacks the range of shots required in LOI cricket. Seen him struggle to rotate strike a few times in his short career.

Pakistan biggest problem in LOIs as well as test is playing pace. Our seniors Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz, Shezad (add Sami, Azhar to that list for LOIs) cannot play pace in any format. They are spin bashers, but that utility stops working outside Asia. You cannot fill team with 4 batsmen in top 6 that will never be good against pace. Going into the match everybody is expecting 100 from Fakhir and or Babar to score, nobody expect anything from these players, that is what fans think of them, they have proven them right almost every time...I don't see of packing team with such seniors :facepalm:

Harris plays late, judges the length early, his injuries had hamper his development. His pull and cut (specially pull) has not developed over time. Part of the problem is those shots are developed at international level. He is still far better than Hafeez and Malik in playing pace in any format against top side...Harris and Babar has best technique against pace, you have to invest in them, unless we uncover somebody else...

Fakhir, Babar and Faheem all play pace better Hafeez, Sarfraz and Malik. Faheem is an allrounder, still look comfortable against pace than the fab four. This Pakistani team has no chance of crossing 250, if these 4 are in top 6, simple is that. They are all old, they were never good player of pace, when 5/6 years younger, how they could be now? - What is the point of wasting another 4 ODIs on these Old and failed horses, Pakistan must use this tour to build batting...This formula of keep teams under 250 and let useless batsmen crawl to finish line is a very narrow, takes you no where...
 
Are you kidding me?????
Haris might not be the next big batting talent but he is a very good batsman and much better than Hafeez and Malik. He deserves a chance rather than continuing with Hafeez, Malik or even Azhar. If we want to compete in 2019 World Cup then we need our best players in the line-up even if that means discarding seniors with there "experience"
 
^ Also, Malik and Hafeez are allrounders, never really were specialist batsmen, where as Harris is a proper batsman, with avg of 50 in FC, only few people has achieved that. How can we have middle order filled with bits and pieces allrounders, who rarely bowl anyway?? At this point, Fahim is better than all three(Hafeez/Malik/Sarfraz)of them, actually far better when facing pace, that is the level of their skill set, while they occupy premium spot of 4/5/6 in the LOI team :facepalm:
 
So far what I have seen of Wasim he is a nothing special analyst.
 
Haris innings was good but the way you people are praising him after just 1 half-century, it seems that he has bached a century.

He is definitely going to be productive at No.5 in ODIs. I wish he keeps performing like this. We still lack players who score centuries on regular basis like the modern day cricket.

If some one score 40-50, we makes them heroes, which is wrong.

We must get rid of Malik & Hafeez as soon as possible.
 
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