So if Misbah got team out of dumps in 2010 after fixing scandal, then who took it to dumps again?

[W63L35]

Any time a Misbah fans speak.... they credit him for taking the team from the lowest of the low to the new heights in 2010/11 - right after no-ball scandal.

Firs of all this is not true.... but even if it is true then

1. Who should they/we blame for team's lower than minnows performance?
2. Most importantly why did Misbah try to pull from the dumps it out like he did in 2010-11?

A lot of people think this is one of the worst/weakest team in the history of cricket, ......then who took it there?

Why did Misbah not stop the slide when he pulled the team out in 2010?

Why he just stood out there like a silent spectator?

He was much more experienced in 2014/2015 than 2010-11 .... why he did not use his experience?

 

[cricketworm]

Let's not conflict Pak's ODI record with Test success. If I am not mistaking Misbah done really well with what ever bowling/batting options he had in test. He failed having success in ODIs, however, him as a batsman done better than the most players.

 

[Major]

Misbah is the best Pakistani captain!

 

[in_cutter]

@ WL63L35 needs to change the record

 

[critic]

W63 was waiting for this lowest moment in Misbah's career to become in form.

 

[Anfield]

Your first class structure, your school structure, your club cricket structure, terrorism, nepotism, corruption and players itself. If players play like immature teenagers Misbah can't do anything.

 

[W63L35]

Let's not conflict Pak's ODI record with Test success. If I am not mistaking Misbah done really well with what ever bowling/batting options he had in test. He failed having success in ODIs, however, him as a batsman done better than the most players.

Misbah's ODI win/loss record in his initial @2 years.

 

[TNA]

Cricket is played with 11 players. You may need to go back and learn the fundamentals of how cricket is played then have a crack at having a debate.

 

[W63L35]

W63 was waiting for this lowest moment in Misbah's career to become in form.

No... I have been posting like this since early 2013. Why do you think, I am loved and respected so much by Misbah fans like you?

 

[usmaneeyat]

I am glad you are back. What are your comments about your darling who dropped 2 crucial catches and misfielded and on top that looked toothless against india and WI.

 

[W63L35]

Cricket is played with 11 players. You may need to go back and learn the fundamentals of how cricket is played then have a crack at having a debate.

Did you even read OP?

I was address Misbah fans who still believe Misbah pulled the team out of the lowest in 2011 after match-fixing scandal.
If you don't believe in that .... you have nothing to add to this thread.

 

[cricketworm]

So what actually happened since that time, you need to go after than not solely after Misbah who might not be the only person responsible.

 

[W63L35]

I am glad you are back. What are your comments about your darling who dropped 2 crucial catches and misfielded and on top that looked toothless against india and WI.

Stay on the topic otherwise mod will slap you on the wrist for bringing Afridi in Misbah thread......or vice versa... or is it that you do not have nay answer to the OP?

Start a thread on Afridi's fielding and I will reply.

 

[TNA]

Also, we lost many of our crucial players leading up to the world cup especially our number 1 bowler and our best all-arounder and lest not forget Misbah manged to salvage a down to dumps test ah forget it.

 

[ahmedzee]

Have to agree with W63
Had huge arguments with friends who are misbah fans .... However the sole reason why pakistan is always in that messed up position is because of misbahs defensive captaincy, which we saw yesterday against the windies. Moreover, misbah refuses to come up the order (if he is a responsible batsman/captain)... Yet people here come him to Imran kha who actually promoted himself to #3 when early wickets fell...

 

[W63L35]

So what actually happened since that time, you need to go after than not solely after Misbah who might not be the only person responsible.

I am not going after Misbah. Why should I go after Misbah? He is not going to come PP and read my post.

I am addressing the fans who could not stop beating their chests that Misbah pulled the team out of dums in 2010-11.

 

[TNA]

No... I have been posting like this since early 2013. Why do you think, I am loved and respected so much by Misbah fans like you?

Yes I read each and every word of the OP

It reads something like Misbah is to be blamed for everything that is Pakistan cricket.

Correct me if im wrong.

 

[coy0607]

It amazing how when anyone has tried to ask a genuine question about misbah in the last 12 hours, someone always brings up Afridi's dropped catches..

 

[in_cutter]

Yes I read each and every word of the OP

It reads something like Misbah is to be blamed for everything that is Pakistan cricket.

Correct me if im wrong.

Pretty much this.

Him & his buddy Savak have a personal vendetta against Misbah. It's pathetic to think that Misbah is the problem.

Where were @WL63L35 rants when Inzi led us to a disasterous WC 2007 campaign? 2003?

 

[mudassir84]

Have to agree with OP, we are still in a dumpster which we were in 2010. No question about that.

 

[W63L35]

It amazing how when anyone has tried to ask a genuine question about misbah in the last 12 hours, someone always brings up Afridi's dropped catches..

That is their way of making it very obvious that they do to have a clue how to reply to the question asked.

 

[W63L35]

Pretty much this.

Him & his buddy Savak have a personal vendetta against Misbah. It's pathetic to think that Misbah is the problem.

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...

Where were @WL63L35 rants when Inzi led us to a disasterous WC 2007 campaign? 2003?

either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

 

[in_cutter]

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...



either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

you sure??

 

[FanofCricket]

Misbah is the best player produced by pakistan cricket after 2007 world cup debacle.

 

[Kari07]

Misbah has done a terrific job in restoring honor to the Pakistan Test side after the ,2010 spot fixing scandal. Under his captaincy there have been no scandals nor have we destroyed our reputation. And we are no longer being called cheats. Just remember this was the same team that at one point went through ball-biting (Afridi), ball-tampering and spot fixing scandals.

One common element between 2010 and 2015 is waqar younis. I have said it before and will say it again, we need a proper foreign professional coach for this team. Pakistani coaches do not have the temperament or the ability to be good coaches or get the maximum out of the players.

Also, we need new team for ODI cricket - players under 30 from top to bottom...invest in youth and keep the seniors confined to test team only.

Waqar has been a huge failure and not cut out for this job.

 

[Fallen King]

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...



either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

Something tells me this is gonna be fun.

#cough-cough--apple-eating--cough-cough

 

[Fallen King]

Pretty much this.

Him & his buddy Savak have a personal vendetta against Misbah. It's pathetic to think that Misbah is the problem.

Where were @WL63L35 rants when Inzi led us to a disasterous WC 2007 campaign? 2003?

Welcome back @WL63L35

After the retirement party including Misbah-ul-Haq,

His next stop would be 'Shoaib Malik' if PCB is forced to pick him as captain due to huge retirement party after ODI WC which leaves huge vacuum for Pakistan team to fill.

On a positive side, Afridi won't be playing ODI format after ODI WC.

 

[Fallen King]

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...



either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

Take a look at your debut first of your own username before you make fool of yourself. You are great at stats, but not when it comes to debate. Already losing debate-battle as we speak. I think you need BlackZero for your benefits.

 

[ikram17]

It amazing how when anyone has tried to ask a genuine question about misbah in the last 12 hours, someone always brings up Afridi's dropped catches..

These people are hypocrite fanboys of Misbah that die a little bit on the inside whenever Misbah is rightly criticized. They don't realize you can be equally critical of Misbah and Afridi. They have nothing substantial to add to the topic.

On topic, I don't think Misbah dragged the team out of anything in 2010 and I don't think he is solely responsible for dragging it back to its current state. The fanboys want it both ways though. When Pakistan wins all the credit goes to Misbah, when it loses Misbah has nothing to do with it and its the teams fault and Afridi and ISI are behind it, looking to undermine Shah Misbah's legancy.

 

[Mamoon]

First explain why we lost yesterday. Misbah faced 21 balls only, 3 less than 24.

Secondly, Misbah is credited with keeping the team united and one the same page after it was severely damaged by the fixer trio. He has done a great job on that front and kept inner conflicts out of the team, in spite of Afridi camp trying its utmost best to secure captaincy for the World Cup.

Misbah's management is not to be confused with his on-field tactics, which are rubbish.

 

[Robbie]

you sure??

Owned!! ) Big tyme...

 

[miandadrules]

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...



either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

The irony

 

[IAJ]

Owned!! ) Big tyme...

Owned because og a typo lols?

Seems like you have some history with WL?

 

[sjahmed23]

Look, it is not even about Misbah. You can put any captain up there and you will get the same results I guarantee it. The problem is that our whole cricket structure is out of date... people still think we are living in 1992 where games were won solely based on talents rather than tactics and skill. Our whole mentality is stuck in the 90s that includes fans and cricket the entire fraternity, we don't believe in hardwork and smart thinking for success and you don't have to look further than umar akmal and ahmed shehzad to see that. Misbah is gonna be history after this world cup.. but for Pakistan I believe his demise doesn't solve the problem it only makes it worse.

 

[Sam18696]

Welcome back bro. You and your funky stats were being missed.

 

[W63L35]

Owned because of a typo lols?

Yes. It was a typo. Even a blind can see the debut date on every post.

Seems like you have some history with WL?

Every Sachin, Malik and Misbah fan has history with me! They can't hide the scars I have given them, even if they tried!

 

[DOOSRA95]

Your first class structure, your school structure, your club cricket structure, terrorism, nepotism, corruption and players itself. If players play like immature teenagers Misbah can't do anything.

You are stating the most fundamental problems but vast majority are not interested the points that you have raised, which are absolute truth.Every one is so deluded they are just want to point fingers at individuals, Yes Misbah is not good ODI leader it reflects in the result.

 

[s28]

What would Misbahs record be if he could not count on chuckers Ajmal and Hafeez ?

 

[W63L35]

When was the last time, this was a head line in a News Paper?

 

[axl100mph]

Misbah is the best Pakistani captain!

He is an ok batsman and a good one for our lineup. He carries himself very well off the field and is good at managing the media.
However, he is the most clueless, uninspiring skipper ever. He will be at par with yousuf as far as tactical dumbness is concerned
Doesn't believe in attacking with fast bwlers and doesnt knw how to use them.
His entire success as a skipper has been due to hafeez n ajmal's constriction in the middle overs with lala occasionally chipping in.

Now that the former two r no longer their, his lack of imagination and acumen r clearly on show.

A good guy, respectable batyer but a pathetic strategist

 

[ahanank]

We didn't choose him.
We were stuck with him.
None of the other players had the guts to take the charge after the scandal.
He is the best thing that ever happened to our cricket in the last 5-6 years.

 

[cricketInsight]

Misbah is not a good ODI/T20 captain but the problem is that there is not much competition for his post.

Misbah is the only player who has a shot at making it to the squads of top 6 teams. No one else has been consistent.

We have the weakest middle order in top 8 teams and apart from Afridi our bowling unit is extremely inexperienced. You can't blame that on Misbah.

 

[FusedBulb]

To OP,
Misbah was never a leader who could either inspire and lead by example OR by Danda - this is a given.

However, there a couple factors that have hurt us before we hit this low.

Ajmal, Junaid and Hafeez's absence in the bowling force.

And PCB chairman's self indulgence to impose YK on us.

None of the above is directly Misbah's fault.

And we all know, he does not have an Imran Khan like bravery to slam his resignation on the face of PCB officials if there was a hanky panky in the selection. So he couldn't do anything about Fawad Alam's absence.

Waqar also has a HHHHUUUUGGGEEEE role behind the current tatters the team is in.

Not A SINGLE bowler has the correct wrist or seam position to move the ball.

If I was in power I would have made sure that Waqar faced jail terms for all the money he is sucking every month in contrast to the skill and ability of our pace bowlers.

 

[PakWC2015]

Ridiculous. Give Afridi the credit he deserves. Afridi is the person who pulled our ODI team together after the spot fixing mess. Led us through a few close battles vs England and South Africa. A semi-final in the world cup and was sacked AFTER a series win.

What turmoil did Misbah inherit the ODI team in?

 

[miandadrules]

Ridiculous. Give Afridi the credit he deserves. Afridi is the person who pulled our ODI team together after the spot fixing mess. Led us through a few close battles vs England and South Africa. A semi-final in the world cup and was sacked AFTER a series win.

What turmoil did Misbah inherit the ODI team in?

Pathetic.

Afridi plunged them in to the mess by abandoning the team mid-series and nominating a match-fixer as his successor.

Then he came back as an opportunist claiming he knew everything all along and took it as a chance to revive his career. Then made a series of irresponsible comments during the ODI series and completely mishandled the Yasir Hameed incident. Just to put the icing in the cake he publicly singled out players for criticism without accepting his own short-comings including publicly insulting a debuting Mohammad Irfan.

 

[miandadrules]

Basically, the OP is begging for some respectability to be attributed to Afridi.

Which pretty much sums up Afridi and his fans.

 

[pacesensation]

We just refuse to become blind lovers...or we hurt lover's feelings.... That's all ...



either PP did not exist ..plus i became member in 2008.

im with you too on this one
toothless spineless and he has learnt nothing from past mistakes

absolute rubbish.

I just don't get it, that misbahulhaq still has fans tbh

 

[Indiafan]

Any time a Misbah fans speak.... they credit him for taking the team from the lowest of the low to the new heights in 2010/11 - right after no-ball scandal.

Firs of all this is not true.... but even if it is true then

1. Who should they/we blame for team's lower than minnows performance?
2. Most importantly why did Misbah try to pull from the dumps it out like he did in 2010-11?

A lot of people think this is one of the worst/weakest team in the history of cricket, ......then who took it there?

Why did Misbah not stop the slide when he pulled the team out in 2010?

Why he just stood out there like a silent spectator?

He was much more experienced in 2014/2015 than 2010-11 .... why he did not use his experience?

Because of the issues of seniority, ill discipline and super star culture. The best captain, coach and management can do nothing if

A) Players are not talented

B) They refuse to be disciplined

C) They do not play as a team

And you know that one of the biggest culprit of the super star culture and making new players follow his path is someone whom you admire

 

[Indiafan]

im with you too on this one
toothless spineless and he has learnt nothing from past mistakes

absolute rubbish.

I just don't get it, that misbahulhaq still has fans tbh

I would say a toothless, spineless person is someone who at the first hint of pressure, tries to hit out of the park and THROWS his wicket away every time and runs back to the dressing room. There is a reason ALL neutral fans have immense respect for Misbah. But of course blind hero worship like you and OP for people hitting sixes and having zero understanding of what a fighting innings in batting means you will always have this culture

 

[pacesensation]

I would say a toothless, spineless person is someone who at the first hint of pressure, tries to hit out of the park and THROWS his wicket away every time and runs back to the dressing room. There is a reason ALL neutral fans have immense respect for Misbah. But of course blind hero worship like you and OP for people hitting sixes and having zero understanding of what a fighting innings in batting means you will always have this culture

what makes you think that i am a blind hero worshipper?

Blind hero worshippers are people like sachtards who would praise him despite his useless and match losing centuries(against bd eg against sa 2011)
So stay out of it just like i stay out of indian players discussion

And do not call me a worshipper, i dont worship mortals, even in metaphoric sense never use that word again

Now go and watch that india vs sa thread

 

[MenInG]

Learn to differentiate between bad performances and existential crises

 

[1337]

Not sure why Misbah is being dragged into this, anyone noticed who was the coach back in 2010, Waqar was the reason why everything happened in 2010 and he's the reason why Pakistan are in a similar mess now, Waqar and Moin Khan are corrupt/cancers that should be chucked out of Country.

 

[Mobashir]

Pathetic.

Afridi plunged them in to the mess by abandoning the team mid-series and nominating a match-fixer as his successor.

Then he came back as an opportunist claiming he knew everything all along and took it as a chance to revive his career. Then made a series of irresponsible comments during the ODI series and completely mishandled the Yasir Hameed incident. Just to put the icing in the cake he publicly singled out players for criticism without accepting his own short-comings including publicly insulting a debuting Mohammad Irfan.

Before being left out from captaincy, what Afridi did:
-Series win in New Zeland
- World cup semi final (win over SL, Australia and West indies - 10 wickets)
-Series win in West Indies.

Now we can hardly even dream about these things...

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why are people discussing Afridi here. Is he the captain of the team? Is that the best the Misbah fans can come up with?

 

[shane]

What is the point of this thread other than being a thinly veiled dig at Misbah?

 

[Varun]

What is the point of this thread other than being a thinly veiled dig at Misbah?

This is a good tactic by WL to start fanboying Afridi. The minnow games are coming up after all.

 

[pacesensation]

I would say a toothless, spineless person is someone who at the first hint of pressure, tries to hit out of the park and THROWS his wicket away every time and runs back to the dressing room. There is a reason ALL neutral fans have immense respect for Misbah. But of course blind hero worship like you and OP for people hitting sixes and having zero understanding of what a fighting innings in batting means you will always have this culture

I am sorry for my reply to you, that was very rude. Sorry for that

 

[Dr_Bassim]

OP was nowhere to be found when Misbah scored fastest test century and we won against Australia.

OP was in hibernation when Pakistan won 1st test in NZ...

OP contemplated coming out only when Pakistan under Misbah were having a tough time.

Wouldn't shock me if Pakistan somehow has a good run from now and OP disappears again, till Misbah fails again

 

[miandadrules]

Before being left out from captaincy, what Afridi did:
-Series win in New Zeland
- World cup semi final (win over SL, Australia and West indies - 10 wickets)
-Series win in West Indies.

Now we can hardly even dream about these things...

Once again Afridi's minions showing that their intelligence knows no bounds:

2010 Asia Cup - Hammered by Sri Lanka and India, could only manage to beat Bangladesh
2010 in England - Lost series despite exceptional individual performances.
2010 in UAE vs RSA - Lost series despite Heroics from Abdul Razzaq
2010 in NZ - Won 3-2, thanks to Hafeez, Misbah, Shehzad and Gul performances

2011 World Cup:

Pathetically making out reaching the Semi-Finals in a tournament where a quarter-final place was guaranteed as a major achievement, especially as it was held on the sub-continent. Beat a Sri Lanka team that was looking for form and without their main strike bowler in Malinga. Beat Australia thanks to Gul and Abdul Razzaq, with Afridi almost costing us the match by throwing his wicket away. Who did Australia beat in this tournament?

Got hammered by New Zealand and Afridi's captaincy crumbled when it mattered against India.

Yet you are saying we should celebrate being the the third worst side from the sub-continent in that tournament?

2014 - lost to Australia in UAE
2014 - lost to New Zealand

So. despite having Ajmal, Hafeez, Gul and Abdul Razzaq in form all Afridi ever won as captain was a series in New Zealand and West Indies which were thanks to exceptional individual performances by players that happen to be at their peak when Afridi was captain.

Let's not even look at his T20 captaincy record.

 

[Mobashir]

Once again Afridi's minions showing that their intelligence knows no bounds:

2010 Asia Cup - Hammered by Sri Lanka and India, could only manage to beat Bangladesh
2010 in England - Lost series despite exceptional individual performances.
2010 in UAE vs RSA - Lost series despite Heroics from Abdul Razzaq
2010 in NZ - Won 3-2, thanks to Hafeez, Misbah, Shehzad and Gul performances

2011 World Cup:

Pathetically making out reaching the Semi-Finals in a tournament where a quarter-final place was guaranteed as a major achievement, especially as it was held on the sub-continent. Beat a Sri Lanka team that was looking for form and without their main strike bowler in Malinga. Beat Australia thanks to Gul and Abdul Razzaq, with Afridi almost costing us the match by throwing his wicket away. Who did Australia beat in this tournament?

Got hammered by New Zealand and Afridi's captaincy crumbled when it mattered against India.

Yet you are saying we should celebrate being the the third worst side from the sub-continent in that tournament?

2014 - lost to Australia in UAE
2014 - lost to New Zealand

So. despite having Ajmal, Hafeez, Gul and Abdul Razzaq in form all Afridi ever won as captain was a series in New Zealand and West Indies which were thanks to exceptional individual performances by players that happen to be at their peak when Afridi was captain.

Let's not even look at his T20 captaincy record.

Whatever.

Before being left out from captaincy, what Afridi did:
-Series win in New Zeland
- World cup semi final (win over SL, Australia and West indies - 10 wickets)
-Series win in West Indies.

You don't drop a captain after this.

 

[miandadrules]

Whatever.

Before being left out from captaincy, what Afridi did:
-Series win in New Zeland
- World cup semi final (win over SL, Australia and West indies - 10 wickets)
-Series win in West Indies.

You don't drop a captain after this.

Yes, "whatever" exactly.

He was sacked because he continually made statements disparaging players and blaming them for defeats without accepting responsibility himself. He was warned constantly about this.

The other reason he was sacked was due to his relationship with Ejaz Butt. Afraid for all intents and purposes was Mr Butt's lap dog. So desperate he was for the captaincy he took an oath to remove Younis Khan and then became Butt's loyal pet. Unfortunately, he thought he had out grown his master at which point he was neutered.

 

[PakWC2015]

Pathetic.

Afridi plunged them in to the mess by abandoning the team mid-series and nominating a match-fixer as his successor.

Then he came back as an opportunist claiming he knew everything all along and took it as a chance to revive his career. Then made a series of irresponsible comments during the ODI series and completely mishandled the Yasir Hameed incident. Just to put the icing in the cake he publicly singled out players for criticism without accepting his own short-comings including publicly insulting a debuting Mohammad Irfan.

Sorry did i say ODI or test. Afridi left the test team BEFORE the spot fixing. This thread and my post are talking about AFTER the spot fixing.

Where did Afridi claim he knew about everything? Find me the interview. A

Afridi has always been one to speak his mind, the hameed incident perhaps was a little OTT but the Irfan situation was fine, he needed to know just how poor he was and it has motivated him to go back and work harder. Stop your crying on behalf of Irfan, i didn't see Irfan making a fuss about it.

Fact is Afridi was ODI captain after the spot fixing and he is the one who 'got the team out of the dumps'

 

[miandadrules]

Sorry did i say ODI or test. Afridi left the test team BEFORE the spot fixing. This thread and my post are talking about AFTER the spot fixing.

Where did Afridi claim he knew about everything? Find me the interview. A

Afridi has always been one to speak his mind, the hameed incident perhaps was a little OTT but the Irfan situation was fine, he needed to know just how poor he was and it has motivated him to go back and work harder. Stop your crying on behalf of Irfan, i didn't see Irfan making a fuss about it.

Fact is Afridi was ODI captain after the spot fixing and he is the one who 'got the team out of the dumps'

Pathetic excuses again.

I'm not going to waste my time finding you something that was proven to death but here's a start:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...I-knew-about-Match-fixing-Shahid-Afridi-(ARY)

Afridi didn't get us out of anything because he was partly responsible for getting us in to and controversies continued under his captaincy.

Please keep begging for some respectability to be attributed to him, because that's what his whole career has been, all "smokes and mirrors", where his fans have had to make stuff about him rather than present what he actually achieved.

Why doesn't anyone attribute any credit to Afridi for getting us out of that mess?

 

[Strike Rate]

 

[miandadrules]

Only one player achieved all three in the same match.

 

[the Great Khan]

Acha bacha Misbah. Good for us in tests but has no clue in ODI's. Ever since the new rules came in he hasnt been able to adapt. Glad we'll have a new start . Got to plan our ODI strategy for the next WC now!!

 

[AZ]

What is the point of this thread other than being a thinly veiled dig at Misbah?

no point at all, really.

OP was nowhere to be found when Misbah scored fastest test century and we won against Australia.

OP was in hibernation when Pakistan won 1st test in NZ...

OP contemplated coming out only when Pakistan under Misbah were having a tough time.

Wouldn't shock me if Pakistan somehow has a good run from now and OP disappears again, till Misbah fails again

that is his regular tactic, the hallmark of a forum troll.

 

[shaz619]

OP was nowhere to be found when Misbah scored fastest test century and we won against Australia.

OP was in hibernation when Pakistan won 1st test in NZ...

OP contemplated coming out only when Pakistan under Misbah were having a tough time.

Wouldn't shock me if Pakistan somehow has a good run from now and OP disappears again, till Misbah fails again

The fake statistics sheik wouldn't mind if pakistan lost so he could blame it on misbah, his abject hatred is obvious when he only shows up when things are not going so well.

 

[shaz619]

W6L35 mite aswel support India

 

[Cricketrenew]

Pakistan has been in the dumps all this time and Misbah has just continued its downfall,
scores heavily and slowly, has some success but never continued it like any other nation would have done

 

[W63L35]

no point at all, really.



that is his regular tactic, the hallmark of a forum troll.

I knew, you will have an answer to OP.

 

[Kianig89]

Misbah has instilled a different kind of mentality in this team (u can call it average,mediocre, negative, cautious, defeatist ) whatever

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Is misbah the only cricketer in the Pakistan team? True he is not a world class ODI batsman and his captaincy is quite defensive but he's better than anyone else in this team in both batsmanship and captaincy. Anyway Afridi's captaincy in 2011 WC is vastly overrated. Give Misbah a firing Gul, Ajmal, minnow bashing Afridi, run choking Hafeez and SC conditions and he would've done just as well here. You need quality strike bowlers and world class ODI batsmen like Kohli,AB etc. to be aggressive. Pakistan have neither atm. Hardly Misbah's fault.

 

[miandadrules]

Afridi fans are akin to Fox News viewers.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Any time a Misbah fans speak.... they credit him for taking the team from the lowest of the low to the new heights in 2010/11 - right after no-ball scandal.

Firs of all this is not true.... but even if it is true then

1. Who should they/we blame for team's lower than minnows performance?
2. Most importantly why did Misbah try to pull from the dumps it out like he did in 2010-11?

A lot of people think this is one of the worst/weakest team in the history of cricket, ......then who took it there?

Why did Misbah not stop the slide when he pulled the team out in 2010?

Why he just stood out there like a silent spectator?

He was much more experienced in 2014/2015 than 2010-11 .... why he did not use his experience?

Misbah took the team to the dumps not once but twice now.

First as a captain, and now a coach.

 

[Savak]

Missing W63L35

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Missing W63L35

Looks like his around but doesn't post anymore.

He was a great poster and his statistical analysis were the best.