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Sohail Akhtar - time to move on, or stick with him?

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Hearing that he's had a bit of stick in the press conference after the final, regarding his captaincy and his form.

What do you reckon, should LQ move away from him as skipper or should they stick with the guy who has led them to a PSL final?
 
First of all Lahore Qalandars should move away from Aqib Javed.
 
Unfortunately because they reached final we will see the same faces apart from a few Unfortunately
 
His captaincy was pretty decent. His utility is what should be questioned. He hasn't batted well and doesn't really offer a bowling option.

But LQ are such an interesting team. Before you even get to Sohail Akhtar's captaincy you have to question his team selection. Muhammad Faizan's constant presence is such a mystery. Are they related? How do you pick a player who does nothing?

Also the squad overall is quite rubbish with Jaahid and Salman Butt stinking it up.
 
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He wasn’t awful, but nothing special either. Middling performances. Dilemma for LQ.
 
Wasn't that bad in terms of capatincy but as a player he is truly mediocre. Definitely needs to be replaced.
 
Frankly, Lahore's management is not suitable to run even a village cricket team. Aqib is an old-fashioned hands-off coach that believes that the role of the coach is to sit in the dugout, sip tea, and motivate players if they are feeling down. While this has worked in the past century and even worked to some extent in this tournament for his team (they did manage second place), the days of hands-off coaching are long gone.

Teams of the modern era are now backed by a team of support staff who are equally responsible for the outcome of games as the eleven players playing inside the field. No matter how much you hate, there will be boot camps and John Buchanan will remain the template of a modern coach. Past players like Shane Warne's maintained that coaches just collect fat paychecks for doing nothing but this opinion now is considered as needless noise of a disgruntled player who doesn't want to move out of his comfort zone. (Granted that Warne was the best ever leg-spinner in the history of the game in a team that had arguably the best ever fast bowler, batsman, and wicketkeeper so they didn't need to work as hard as the modern players have to do now to maintain their cutting edge but the point still stands).

The selections that the brain trust of this team makes are strange to put it politely. In most cases, these decisions are absolutely blind to logic and reason. Abdullah Shafiq has even got Pakistani color now and plays for Central Punjab yet when the time to pick a replacement player came, they selected Abid Ali instead. What use will the franchise have of selecting a player who has potential, ability, and age at his side instead of a player who doesn't even feature in the T20 team of his region? This team also had the audacity to select Salman Butt in the side. Who even came up with that brilliant idea? (We all know the answer but still anyway)

It's not his fault but Sohail Akhtar is not a player who should be captaining a franchise in a high-profile tournament. He is neither Mike Brearly when it comes to having a good cricketing mind, nor Ian Botham when it comes to pure cricketing skills. Having him as a captain ensures that you enter the playing field with a handicap. He may be an honest trier and frankly, for the most part, everyone loves an honest trier, but he doesn't fall in that category. Now that the dust has settled on the campaign, he'll get stick for a lot of failures that aren't even his own, but such is the job that he accepted that this is par for the course.

For a team that spends so much time and energy on the development program, they should also spend some time scouting the first-class and under 19 cricket players and pick the best available players from that pool. The romanticism of picking an uncut diamond plying his trade shoeless in the backstreets of Mandi Bahaud'din and turning him into an overnight starlet must end immediately. That's what this team needs to move on from instead of pinning the blame on the hapless Sohail and making him the fallout guy.

(That said, it's also time to say Akhtar goodbye and select a new captain and a team and management staff having a few data analysts and a new kit.)
 
Sohail Akhtar has become a legend for them and will lead the team in the coming 3 or 4 years. Reaching the final is a big thing for a team like that.

Unfortunately because this team achieved more than it is capable you will see the same selections with Aaqib Javed on the front.
 
I find his captaincy In the final was horrible it's one think u chose the wrong decision to bat first

But than when you score a low total you need to apply pressure , try to stop the flow of runs and take wickets

Simply you try to win the game by taking wickets not trying to drag it to 20 overs and see what happens
 
How did he become the captain in the first place? Who is he anyway? Was he ever in the fold for Pakistan?

Looks like a mediocre, unfit cricketer.
 
How did he become the captain in the first place? Who is he anyway? Was he ever in the fold for Pakistan?

Looks like a mediocre, unfit cricketer.

He was brought in to harmonise what had been a very volatile dressing room.

He is someone who gets on with the senior players, the juniors look up to him and the overseas players will put up with.
 
He should never have been made captain. That role should go to either Zaman or Afridi.
 
Sultan Rahi let us down big time. He needs to make way but he never will
 
He was a decent captain but he's a very sub par player, he can improve though. Hate to say but Tabish could bat better
 
Was he really the captain on the field though? To me it looked like it was Hafeez leading the team on the field.
 
Lahore really need to rethink 2 positions in the team for next season. Emerging player, and captain. Having Faizan and Sohail as emerging player and captain was like playing with 10 players.
 
Huge difference in quality between him and other PSL captains. Only a franchise like Lahore can make this hack captain.
 
Shoaib Akhtar "I was surprised by Qalandars decision to bat first after winning the toss as it was easier to bat in the 2nd innings with the dew factor. Also, nothing against Sohail Akhtar, but he's not cut out for captaincy & they need to bring in a better captain"
 
A bit surprised they still persisted with him. He's reflexes have gone down, he's hand-eye co-ordination, he's captaincy skills are not great, he's fortunate he's in a team that has some impressive players and he is the weak-link of his.

For next season, they need a new captain potentially Mohammad Hafeez or someone else. A new coaching setup must be brought in and hopefully some young Pakistani batsman such as Zeeshan Malik, Abdullah Shafique etc.
 
A bit surprised they still persisted with him. He's reflexes have gone down, he's hand-eye co-ordination, he's captaincy skills are not great, he's fortunate he's in a team that has some impressive players and he is the weak-link of his.

For next season, they need a new captain potentially Mohammad Hafeez or someone else. A new coaching setup must be brought in and hopefully some young Pakistani batsman such as Zeeshan Malik, Abdullah Shafique etc.

Do you think they will persist with giving a chance to the development players who come throw or actually look for players who are not
 
Do you think they will persist with giving a chance to the development players who come throw or actually look for players who are not

I think they will still believe in the Lahore Qalandars rising stars program. Unless they bring in the right coaching setup, similarly Multan Sultans with Andy Flower who has good experience with England cricket team. He knows the right kind of players for his team. Now they weren't great in the Eliminator due to lack of players availability.

Overall the coaching needs to be right and the right players to bring in, specially Pakistani players like Abdullah Shafique and Zeeshan Malik not Jahid Ali, Salman Butt, Abid Ali and Sohail Akhtar.
 
I think they will still believe in the Lahore Qalandars rising stars program. Unless they bring in the right coaching setup, similarly Multan Sultans with Andy Flower who has good experience with England cricket team. He knows the right kind of players for his team. Now they weren't great in the Eliminator due to lack of players availability.

Overall the coaching needs to be right and the right players to bring in, specially Pakistani players like Abdullah Shafique and Zeeshan Malik not Jahid Ali, Salman Butt, Abid Ali and Sohail Akhtar.

But wouldnt that attract less players when auditioning for the trials but like you stated it wont change unles the management changes
 
i would keep him around, potentially still as captain if not them make Hafeez as captain.

however, i would get rid of Aqib, and whoever else is part of their "squad selection", and useless squad members like Faizan, Abid Ali, Salman Butt, etc.
 
The risk LQ run is that they bring in a big name as skipper and you could go back to the days of Brendon McCullum etc where there wasn't a great atmosphere in the dressing room and things went horribly wrong for them.
 
LQ have a bigger coaching and "management" squad than players. So there definitely will be problems in the dressing room. With Aqib Javed and Sohail, they will not be a tactically out of the box team. I hope Shoaib Akhtar is not affiliated with them anymore because he can easily disrupt the whole atmosphere within 5 minutes and destroy the morale and strategies with his non sense.

LQ does deserve a pat on the back for "finding" or picking Shaheen, Fakhar, Haris and Dilbar and developing them a lot.

Correct me if I am wrong, was it Mushtaq Ahmed who spotted Shaheen?
 
The risk LQ run is that they bring in a big name as skipper and you could go back to the days of Brendon McCullum etc where there wasn't a great atmosphere in the dressing room and things went horribly wrong for them.

What if they bring Brendon McCullen in as a coach. He guided Trinbago to the title (unbeaten I think) in recent CPL.
Atmosphere needs to be created but with the amount of "coaches" and "mentors" LQ have, it is always going to cause problems.
 
But wouldnt that attract less players when auditioning for the trials but like you stated it wont change unles the management changes

You can still build a decent side with players picked up from trials and good young players from the domestic. Ideally the players from the trial shouldn't really be a part of the first until extensive coaching sessions are done with them. The bowling, batting and fielding may not be refined enough to play cricket and will need to have work done with them.
 
LQs carried a passenger throughout this tournament and then paid the price in the end by losing the final. No way he will return as captain, if he does, then something is seriously wrong with Rana sahab.

Sohail Akhtar seems to be a good guy and they should help him improve as a cricket player. Captaincy will only slow his growth as a cricket player.

btw I don't think he is 35, must be close to 40.
 
You can still build a decent side with players picked up from trials and good young players from the domestic. Ideally the players from the trial shouldn't really be a part of the first until extensive coaching sessions are done with them. The bowling, batting and fielding may not be refined enough to play cricket and will need to have work done with them.

Yes definitely the players from the trails shouldn't be part of the first xI.i hope lohare picks a youngester who is nearing international standards such as abdullah zeeshan malik saud hassan mohsin and so on
 
Karachi: Former speedster Shoaib Akhtar suggested PSL 5 runners-up Lahore Qalandars a change in their captaincy for next season, scheduled after three months.

Speaking on his YouTube channel, Akhtar said Sohail Akhtar is a good cricketer but not captain material. “Nothing against Sohail, he is a great guy but he is not for captaincy,” said one of the fastest bowlers ever in the world. “Aqib Javed needs to bring someone better than him. Being a coach, you need to bring a captain better than you because he is the one who leads the team in the ground,” he added.

https://arysports.tv/shoaib-suggests-qalandars-captain-sohail/
 
I think he is a a name sake pseudo captain for Hafeez.

Usually I have seen on tough times Hafeez makes the call. Feels like he is made a scapegoat captain as they have always finish at the bottom of the table.
 
I think Aaqib likes Sohail as skipper, as it means there is less conflict regarding tactics and selections.
 
He's captain because he is part of the Lahore Qalandars business and is involved in securing deals for LQ players around the world.

He gets his cut of deals secured and helps the LQ franchise make money via players deals.
 
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It’s disappointing that he is captaining a franchise and Babar and Imam are not.
 
It’s disappointing that he is captaining a franchise and Babar and Imam are not.

Maybe because Babar is not captain pedigree?

SA took them into the final whereas Bmac, AB and all other LQ captains couldn’t even get them out of the bottom 2
 
I think Aaqib likes Sohail as skipper, as it means there is less conflict regarding tactics and selections.

Sohail is a decent and very underrated batter in my view, maybe more suited to Odi but he's got some good wrist work and not to forget he nearly won Lahore the cup. I think his form was due to the break and that break in momentum killed it for all of the teams especially Multan who looked like they would win it.
 
Maybe because Babar is not captain pedigree?

SA took them into the final whereas Bmac, AB and all other LQ captains couldn’t even get them out of the bottom 2

Babar can be a better captain if he gets more chances to learn from these experiences.

I think that the Karachi Kings dressing room has a lot of tension between Imad and Babar at the moment, it might just be rumours but there might have been an incident between the two of them.

It's probably just rumours, and I don't want to spread anything, but Imad will be desperate to prove himself as someone who merits a spot on the team given the emergence of new players for the role that he plays.

Will need to show performances with the bat, cannot hide behind Walton to take the team somewhere.

As far as LQ is concerned, it was under Sohail Akhtar's captaincy that they were able to reach a level of performance they'd never known before, so there's some credit to be given. Is Sohail a good captaincy choice? No, by no means. Someone like Hafeez is not a long-term solution, Shaheen is too young, so you don't have too many options for captaincy either. Fakhar Zaman is probably the only other candidate I see, but I don't see him being a good captain.
 
Maybe because Babar is not captain pedigree?

SA took them into the final whereas Bmac, AB and all other LQ captains couldn’t even get them out of the bottom 2

Babar may not be captain material but we need to see him more in the spotlight before finalising that judgment.

Yes he was the captain, but he is an average player so he won't be able to hold his place in the team for too much longer. I also saw Hafeez very vocal and setting fields. It looked like Hafeez runs things at LQ.
 
So Sohail Akhtar is on commission too from Lahore Qalandars in respect of any of their academy or development program players playing in Leagues around the world.
 
So Sohail Akhtar is on commission too from Lahore Qalandars in respect of any of their academy or development program players playing in Leagues around the world.

Very interesting....................
 
I know he's part of the LQ 'management group', but he rarely bats well, he's a poor skipper and he's a pretty ordinary fielder.

Seems to be a guaranteed pick though.
 
I know he's part of the LQ 'management group', but he rarely bats well, he's a poor skipper and he's a pretty ordinary fielder.

Seems to be a guaranteed pick though.

It's certainly very questionable what his actual role is in the team to his credit though he played well in the last game in which they lost and before that played a good knock in the game against IU that LQ won.

There are lots of boys who could replace Sohail, the victories have had nothing to do with his captaincy but the individual performances of a few.

However, this is a good time to build yourself again and something Lahore can afford to do with them still sitting in second. They are still guaranteed a place in the semis that's for sure.
 
His captaincy has been exposed. What is the point of applying pressure from Rashid when you are going to release it with Rauf and Daniyal?
 
So Sohail Akhtar is on commission too from Lahore Qalandars in respect of any of their academy or development program players playing in Leagues around the world.

Intresting, would LQ profit if one of their developmental players went to another league, i.e. when harris rauf went to BBL, curious to know who would cover this commission and how it would pay
 
Intresting, would LQ profit if one of their developmental players went to another league, i.e. when harris rauf went to BBL, curious to know who would cover this commission and how it would pay

Yes they do get part of the payments to any of their academy players who play in any leagues around the world.
 
If he was a brilliant captain you could sort of slot him in somewhere in the XI, but he's a very ordinary skipper too.

Another instance of players being picked due to connections/friendships.
 
The fact that he won the toss and still chose bat second. Should be thrown out just for that.
 
lahore Q is built on pushing through their talent, and getting them foreign league contracts. im pretty sure sohail would never insist on leaving out the "local talent", a powerful captain would interfere with the selection process which is likely to jeopardise lahores business model.

haris rauf has been an excellent investment for lahore, but guys like daniyal, dilbar, etc, would not get as many games under a captain with a veto in selections imo
 
The fact that he won the toss and still chose bat second. Should be thrown out just for that.

To be fair to him that must have been a combined decision with the coach and management and probably the owners,
 
lahore Q is built on pushing through their talent, and getting them foreign league contracts. im pretty sure sohail would never insist on leaving out the "local talent", a powerful captain would interfere with the selection process which is likely to jeopardise lahores business model.

haris rauf has been an excellent investment for lahore, but guys like daniyal, dilbar, etc, would not get as many games under a captain with a veto in selections imo

He's still a mince captain in my view. The selection is beyond rubbish, no good back up players to go on. I mean maybe get someone like Hassan Mohsin, Omair Bin Yousaf, Hurraira for your emerging talent. Are Pakistan struggling that bad with talent??? I mean come on i could make a better XI than the one today. Sheer luck will get Lahore through now.
 
To be fair to him that must have been a combined decision with the coach and management and probably the owners,

Doesn't excuse him from not opening today, just goes to show he has no confidence in himself and the lack of accountability.
 
Hard for him to inspire his side when he himself is a passenger in the team
 
Hard for him to inspire his side when he himself is a passenger in the team

Sana Mir would've done a better job than him, the most talented un-talented player in the team. Maybe we should have Singham come down and dish out some slaps, really disgusted with their last 4 losses in which 2 games they should've won.
 
Seems to go missing when his team needs him the most.

I understand why they won't change him as skipper, but they need to make some tough calls.


They should have given the captaincy to Professor Hafeez. Let Sohail Akhtar first get selected as a player.
 
Dummy captain.

I have it on good authority that this poor guy isn't even involved in team selection, the squad composition, the batting order etc.

Basically out there on the field being told what decisions to make by 2 individuals in the LQ team management.
 
Dummy captain.

I have it on good authority that this poor guy isn't even involved in team selection, the squad composition, the batting order etc.

Basically out there on the field being told what decisions to make by 2 individuals in the LQ team management.

Who are these 2 individuals who are hell bent on destroying LQ?
Aaqib Javed and...?
 
Hafeez hasn't been great himself, his t20 form of late has been terrible. I'd give the captaincy to Weise

David Wiese was not playing in the Abu Dhabi Leg of PSL, he was not available. But Yes, Weise would have been Better than Sohail Akhtar
 
David Wiese was not playing in the Abu Dhabi Leg of PSL, he was not available. But Yes, Weise would have been Better than Sohail Akhtar

I get that Weise didn't play the second leg of PSL. However, my recommendation is that drop Sohail and relieve him of the captaincy and give it to someone like Wiese who's probably Lahore's best player easy for season 7.

Sohail has clutched at the last straw as far as I'm concerned being a Lahore fan. He's failed with the bat more often he wins us games, he's too stiff at the crease and leaves himself vulnerable to an LBW. Sohail has more flaws than he does abilities.

Drop Sohail and purchase Khurrum Manzoor as an opener. I'm done with Lahore Qalanders, they had a chance to go through this season but bottled it badly.
 
I have a soft spot for this guy. He is not someone who has lit the domestic cricket on fire or seen as a good prospect with a good playing career ahead of him. He is just one of the guys who surfaced on the television due to PSL and has actually done well enough as one of the local batters who clearly aren't going to be international stars. Compare him to the likes of Akbar ur Rehman, Ramiz Raja, Mohammad Akhlaq and others and he has actually done well. He isn't meant to be one of the consistent batters or the first name on the sheet. He probably shouldn't theoretically make it to the LQ side for every game. But it isn't his fault that he was appointed as the captain. That blame lies solely on LQ management. They probably wanted a dummy captain to exercise their control over the team through someone who won't stand up to them.
They had appointed McCullum and Fakhar captains before but their captaincy didn't sit well with them or their "strategies".

I would still say Fawad Rana is a clueless guy involved in franchise cricket. The best he can do is to appoint a good management via some cricket committee or whatever. The players they have are capable of individual brilliance and some of them have a very good career ahead of them. They are just suffering because of the guys in the positions of power.
 
Sohail Akhtar top scored with 37 (36 balls with 1 four and 2 sixes) and took Balochistan a face saving 113/5 off 20 ov
 
Why should he be discarded if Shoaib Malik is still being persisted with?
 
Oldies like Sohail Akhtar need to be dumped from PSL to make way for new talented blood.
 
Oldies like Sohail Akhtar need to be dumped from PSL to make way for new talented blood.

This is the thing. You can’t do this when you have Hafeez and Malik expecting to play into their pension age. Sohail is still very young in comparison to these two
 
Oldies like Sohail Akhtar need to be dumped from PSL to make way for new talented blood.

If Sohail is still good enough to be selected as a batsmen for PSL then he has every right to take part. Ageism isn't going to be an acceptable metric to decide who gets to earn a living and who can't.

If you want to negate this for the sake of the national team then create a mandatory 'emerging' category for more players, but nobody has the right to tell Sohail he can't play.
 
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