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alit Modi’s butler is fiddling with the television trying to work out why it will not bring up Sky Sports. The founder of the biggest league in world cricket is lying back on his sofa at his house in west London desperate to watch the latest big match in his grand project.

The butler never does fix the television but it does not matter because across two hours of chat with Modi, while fresh pomegranate juice and Indian snacks are served, the focus is not on the past or the here and now. It is on the future, and namely, the growth of the Indian Premier League and how it will dominate the cricket world even more than it does today.

According to Modi international bilateral cricket is a walking zombie already and the IPL will only become richer as India’s economy goes from strength to strength. He predicts a “bonanza” for cricketers, saying they will earn more than $1m per match and that the next generation will be fabulously wealthy.

He also warns the ICC that if it does not produce a proper Test championship the IPL could do it instead and reveals he always had plans for an IPL Test knockout competition with teams such as Mumbai playing floodlit matches over four days.

He has advice for the England & Wales Cricket Board, too, predicting its own Twenty20 tournament will merely be a “fly to be swatted on the wall” in economic terms if it does not allow private owners to buy into franchises.

But first the $1m player. We already have stars earning more than that for an IPL season. Ben Stokes is on $1.95 (£1.4m) at Rajasthan Royals, ‘icon’ Indian superstars such as Virat Kohli are paid even more. But that is for a 14-match season. Modi believes if the IPL’s $12m salary cap is relaxed it will initiate a bidding war for talent that will catapult the best players into the top earners in world sport. Such a move would have huge ramifications for Test and one-day cricket. A player’s loyalty would be torn between playing for his country or the IPL boss who has made him fantastically wealthy.

“The IPL is here to stay. It will be the dominant sporting league in the world. We have one and a half billion people in India that are dedicated to the game of cricket,” says Modi. “The income levels of the Indian population are rising, you will see international and domestic brands wanting to target the Indian consumer. Where are they going to go to do that? They are going to go to only one product, the IPL. Why? Because it gives consistent ratings, it delivers, it has a great fan base and nothing is better than the IPL for advertisers because they get value for money. If that happens than the IPL will overtake the NFLs of this world.

“Going forward you will see an IPL match grossing not less than $200m a day in terms of revenue, each match. If you have a season of 60 matches the value will be billions. It would have been reached already if there had not been infighting in the BCCI [Indian board] but it will get there eventually.

“Remember the BCCI does not pay for players. The IPL council does not pay for players. It is the owners that pay for the players’ purse. What happens if the IPL loosens that purse and gets rid of the salary cap making it a free market? It is going to go like Premier League football. The salaries will be out of whack. You will see players making $1-$2m a game. It will happen sooner rather than later. That will change players' psyche and loyalty.

Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan

“At the end of the day it is great for the players. They will make a hell of a lot of money. If you are a good cricketer in the world you can rest assured you will be picked up by the IPL. If you are good you will make millions. If you are even second-rate you will be picked up. It will become a great sport for them.

"The percentage of the overall income for a player annually will be 80-90 percent from the IPL. In a free market the person with the deepest pockets will win. The players will gravitate towards who pays the biggest salary. Boards will have to live with that fact. It will be unfortunate for them but it will be a bonanza for players.”

But who will provide the talent? No matter how rich it is, the Indian game cannot produce all the players. Modi believes the Twenty20 leagues around the world will be nurseries for future stars.

Tomorrow you will see bilateral cricket disappear. Big series will happen once every three or four years like the World Cup. The ICC will become an irrelevant body. It will be full of fat lugs who have no power

“The players will be produced by academies. Now there is a business of players that was not there before. The mistake is thinking you need the boards for players. The IPL and the Big Bash and the CPL and England’s new league together in the future - they will have enough to produce players. From the player's perspective, his aspiration will change. Yes he will say he wants to play for his country. But in his heart he will want to be an IPL player. Cricketers have a limited shelf life. They know that. They have to make the most of it.”

Modi is being as forthright as ever and believes he has the facts and track record to back himself up. The IPL has grown and prospered as he predicted it would a decade ago at its inception. Few outside India grasped its potential, not least among other boards and at the ICC. It is easy to dismiss Modi’s vision of the future again and it will horrify many who love the game but he has been right before.

“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else. Tomorrow you will see bilateral cricket disappear. Big series will happen once every three or four years like the World Cup. The ICC will become an irrelevant body. It will be full of fat lugs who have no power. They can scream and shout now and in the future they will threaten to throw India out if they try to expand the IPL but India has the power to stand on its own feet. It does not need anybody. They have a domestic league that it is going to be 20-times the size of international cricket.

“At one time international cricket was the bread and butter of the Indian board. You will see it dwindle down to a single digit in terms of revenue, less than 10 percent will be from ICC and international events. I guarantee that. IPL will be more than 90 percent of business for BCCI going forward. No other board will be able to compete with that because they do not have the domestic market. They have the players but not the domestic market. That is the key, your domestic market.”

The BCCI’s latest IPL media rights deal is worth $2.5bn. Franchise owners bought teams a decade ago for between $67 and $111m. Modi now believes those investments are worth between $300-$400m, such is the value of buying into the Indian economy.

He believes the franchise owners know that the key to their success will be to buy the best talent so expects the salary cap to disappear in time. Where will this leave Test cricket and what about the ICC and Test cricket?

“I think there is a window for Test cricket and a World Test championship will survive if all nations get together and make it a proper tournament. But it has to be a championship. If the ICC does not do it I see no reason why the IPL would not do it instead as a knockout IPL Test championship.

“I had that planned. It is already in the system. Everyone thought I was working on a second IPL season. It was not. It was an IPL knock out Test series played over four days each game. Teams such as Mumbai would have a separate team altogether. They would recruit separately. It was always on the cards. The second IPL season should not be a second T20 season. We do not want to extend and overkill that format. We wanted to do knock-out Test series instead. We would have night games and coloured clothing. That was in line of supporting the main event at bilateral level but now I see bilateral level disappearing [ie it would replace it].”

Modi lives in London but spends most of his time travelling the world looking after various business interests. He has not returned to India since leaving in 2009 with various government agencies on his tail and charges from the BCCI. Many were later proved to be untrue but he was found guilty by the BCCI of eight offences relating to irregularities in the administration of the IPL. He has never been charged by the Indian government with a crime and denies all accusations. He claims he cannot go back to India because of threats to his life from the Asian underworld. Modi’s lawyer claimed in 2013 he was the subject of an assassination attempt in Thailand in 2009 by the same gang.

Modi admits his time in cricket is over. But he has advice for the ECB as it plans its own IPL tournament. “There is a big market in England. It has a great club culture. I always said I would love to have an English Premier League. But they have one chance in life, not two. Either you make it on day one or you do not. If they do not have teams owned by private owners they are finished. If it is going to be owned by the board and the counties it will not work. You have got to have the money from the owners. If you have ten billionaires sitting at a table who all have big egos, want to win and the best players, they will pay for it. Then you compete with IPL.

“If they copy the Big Bash with teams owned by the board then it will will always remain a small player. The Big Bash is a fly to be swatted on the wall compared to IPL. Its revenue is negligible to the IPL. ECB will be the same. It will make a little bit of noise but when it comes to players the big money will be in India. Boards relying on TV revenue is not enough, they have to have private investors.”

Such a prospect would never gain approval from the counties and it is impossible to see it happening in England at this stage. But in Modi’s world view that is why England will never compete with India again.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket...-players-will-earn-1m-match-test-series-know/
 
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$1m a match? I don’t think so. Not in the next decade.

Even NBA and NFL don’t pay that much.
 
May God protect Cricket from India....

So you want players to be poor?

NBA plays millions to even average basketball players. Yet it is the best league in the world. Quality is still top class.

It will be a good thing if IPL ever reaches that level.
 
So you want players to be poor?

NBA plays millions to even average basketball players. Yet it is the best league in the world. Quality is still top class.

It will be a good thing if IPL ever reaches that level.

Not sure how you were able to read words I never typed. If IPL is the future of cricket ...specially test cricket...then I really hope God intervenes in this matter.
 
$1m a match? I don’t think so. Not in the next decade.

Even NBA and NFL don’t pay that much.

I posted this in PP years ago. I spoke to a ex BCCI guy named Shiv Lal yadav in Chicago. He said there was always a plan to have ODIs, tests as well in IPL along with T20s. He said IPL would be a 6 month window with international cricket and rest for the other 6 months. BCCI is already self reliant and cricket will go the football way in the future with only world cups for international cricket. I think it will start with a few more teams added to IPL like the Eastern and Western conference in NBA. Teams assigned to one of two groups.
 
If this happens, who will want to play Tests?

Tests will become exhibition games
 
If this happens, who will want to play Tests?

Tests will become exhibition games

It's about the fans. How many people are watching test cricket. It's dying. It's not just me that's saying that either. Boards and international players are saying it. They will have 4 day games with stipulated overs and a different set of result oriented rules in the future
 
India with its size and the number of growing middle class can sustain it. Every stadium can have a unique set of ground conditions and pitches. I know there are many nay Sayers at this point and there were more than a few years ago that Mocked at a mere suggestion that IPL will be a multi billion dollar Enterprise.
 
One thing people ignore in this whole debate is the recent survey by the FICA.

300 cricketers from all major nations were surveyed and it turns out, a slight majority, think it was about 55 or 60%, actually prefer to have the stability and long term security of a national contract as opposed to freelancing between leagues.

Of course the top tier of cricketer will always prefer free lancing - the money, freedom, fame, independence, will always be in demand etc, but nearly every other calibre of cricketer cant rely on those things and for those cricketers international cricket and the central contract system offered by boards is invaluable.



Wow turns out I was wrong, 88% of those surveyed would rather a long term secure contract over freedom of movement.
 
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If they lifted the salary cap now I'm sure players like Kohli, Stokes, AB etc could sell for $3-4 million which would be $250-300k a match. $1m/match sounds ridiculous but then if someone told you 15 years ago that players would be earning $1-2m for 6 weeks of cricket you wouldn't have believed them. So who knows what will happen in 5-10 years time.

Not a fan of Modi and while I do watch it I think people go OTT when it comes to the IPL - sure it's entertaining but it's nothing like a World Cup or a closely fought test series. Even though we lost I enjoyed the South Africa-India test series more than I am the IPL and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
One thing people ignore in this whole debate is the recent survey by the FICA.

300 cricketers from all major nations were surveyed and it turns out, a slight majority, think it was about 55 or 60%, actually prefer to have the stability and long term security of a national contract as opposed to freelancing between leagues.

Of course the top tier of cricketer will always prefer free lancing - the money, freedom, fame, independence, will always be in demand etc, but nearly every other calibre of cricketer cant rely on those things and for those cricketers international cricket and the central contract system offered by boards is invaluable.



Wow turns out I was wrong, 88% of those surveyed would rather a long term secure contract over freedom of movement.

You are assuming that Franchises are incapable of issuing long term contracts. They absolutely can
 
“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else.

Indians on the forum is this really true? Surely this a pure lie as country always comes over a club competition. Zero value is an overstatement.
 
“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else.

Indians on the forum is this really true? Surely this a pure lie as country always comes over a club competition. Zero value is an overstatement.

International cricket still reigns supreme.
 
That’s why I keep saying 20/20 and especially IPL is the worst thing to happen to Cricket.

It’s all about Baseball 20/20 league matches that are forgotten the next day.

The art of what Cricket was supposed to be is slowly fading away.
 
You are assuming that Franchises are incapable of issuing long term contracts. They absolutely can

They don't even have to do that. They can just issue a 1 year deal worth 10 years of national contract. IPL probably won't offer multi-year contracts to players because form and fitness are so fickle.

Hopefully the Test and ODI leagues retain the relevance. As long as the administrators recongize the prestige of Test/ODI cricket which can't ever be surpassed by any domestic league, Tests will survive, although it may not thrive.
 
So you want players to be poor?

NBA plays millions to even average basketball players. Yet it is the best league in the world. Quality is still top class.

It will be a good thing if IPL ever reaches that level.

Tbh NBA is the pinnacle of basketball. Similarly the top leagues are pinnacle of football.

However atleast in our lifetimes ipl or league cricket in general won't be anywhere near to being pinnacle of cricket
 
“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else.

Indians on the forum is this really true? Surely this a pure lie as country always comes over a club competition. Zero value is an overstatement.

International matches are still very much important. i don't know why they compare IPL with INtl matches as they cater to different set of fans.. there is a significant overlap in the fan base but you will also see that there is huge fan base exclusively dedicated to one of them. Intl cricket will continue but lots of insignificant series will come down over a period of time. Tests will survive but T20Is/ODIs will have a identify crisis outside the test/odi leagues and ICC tournaments
 
Tbh NBA is the pinnacle of basketball. Similarly the top leagues are pinnacle of football.

However atleast in our lifetimes ipl or league cricket in general won't be anywhere near to being pinnacle of cricket

with in a decade top two/three leagues will be pinnacle of cricket in their respective countries.. In fact even now some of these teams can easily hold themselves against majority of the international T20 sides
 
If there was no cap, a player getting 10m is not unthinkable. 1m per match, I don't think we are very far off, may be a year or two.

Test cricket will survive though , the threat is more for ODIs which is getting boring by the day.
 
Not need to remove the salary cap, just double it and you will see.

Salary cap can only be removed if there are a certain number of franchisees. In a 8 franchisee league you do not want to see a Ambani or a Maran or a Diageo cornering the best players while rest fight for the scraps.
 
Tbh NBA is the pinnacle of basketball. Similarly the top leagues are pinnacle of football.

However atleast in our lifetimes ipl or league cricket in general won't be anywhere near to being pinnacle of cricket

It will be pinnacle to Indian (majority) fans and that is all it matters. In 10-15 years time, IPL pay will be triple or even more and we’ll see more and more cricketers will go free lancer
 
“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else.

Indians on the forum is this really true? Surely this a pure lie as country always comes over a club competition. Zero value is an overstatement.

Not at all. But if anyone seriously thinks that Indian pyjama league is better than international cricket he should be sent to a mental asylum.
 
I'm actually hoping that the BCCI set up an IPL carnival in the US for the same dates as the English league. Send the top 4 IPL teams to play a bunch of games in Toronto, NY, Florida, and CA. That should put a nice monkey wrench into the ECB's plans.
 
Tbh NBA is the pinnacle of basketball. Similarly the top leagues are pinnacle of football.

However atleast in our lifetimes ipl or league cricket in general won't be anywhere near to being pinnacle of cricket

Not too long ago, test cricket was considered the pinnacle and ODI format was considered pyjama cricket. It all depends on what fans want. New players don't care about test cricket as much as their predecessors did. Fans don't either. There is a reason why NZ just played a handful of tests all year. Teams are cuttinf down on tests so they can add T20s or ODIs. Times change. Today's gold standard is tomorrow's old standard.
 
Beautful words by Modi. Beter to kill off the nonsense known as Test cricket. It's a insult to common sense by calling it sport in modern terms
 
He knows alot more about this business than lot of keyboard warriors here
 
Beautful words by Modi. Beter to kill off the nonsense known as Test cricket. It's a insult to common sense by calling it sport in modern terms

Unfortunately your wet dream of test cricket going extinct will never come true. And I would suggest that you show some respect to the oldest format of the game.
 
I'm actually hoping that the BCCI set up an IPL carnival in the US for the same dates as the English league. Send the top 4 IPL teams to play a bunch of games in Toronto, NY, Florida, and CA. That should put a nice monkey wrench into the ECB's plans.

LOL it will be a huge flop like the all-stars games where only indians show up to the stadium :)))
 
Unfortunately your wet dream of test cricket going extinct will never come true. And I would suggest that you show some respect to the oldest format of the game.

It's been shown enough respect by the crows in empty grounds of UAE. Almost nobody watches test cricket outside Eng and Aus, and the edgy hipsters who defend this joke don't follow it beyond scorecards on Cricinfo. Cricket didn't spread in the world beyond a dozen countries because outsiders think it's lunacy to play something over 5 days. And rightfully so. It's as much sport as fishing.
 
In 10 years time, people will get bored of constantly watching t20s. They will demand t10 and then t5. For cricket, the end is near.
 
I don't think this is going to happen in the near future. Modi is just over exaggerating.
 
It's been shown enough respect by the crows in empty grounds of UAE. Almost nobody watches test cricket outside Eng and Aus, and the edgy hipsters who defend this joke don't follow it beyond scorecards on Cricinfo. Cricket didn't spread in the world beyond a dozen countries because outsiders think it's lunacy to play something over 5 days. And rightfully so. It's as much sport as fishing.

Those cows are better than you because at least they don't disrespect test cricket unlike ipl ******* like you.
 
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If Modi was any good at predicting things then maybe he would not be in the predicament he is in now.
 
Unfortunately your wet dream of test cricket going extinct will never come true. And I would suggest that you show some respect to the oldest format of the game.

Better start showing respect to T20, apparently that is what keeping the ugly Test alive in most countries. I cant wait for pathetic of a format to die once it for all.
 
An IPL match makes 9 million USD a match. There are 22 players playing it, several others on the bench. And then there are other costs with hosting such a league and profit for franchise, BCCI. So yeah, Lalit pulled that figure out from you know where.
 
India still plays a lot of test cricket. Its the teams outside the big 3 that are reducing test matches and increasing t20 in their tours. Wonder how much that has to do with India?

Better start showing respect to T20, apparently that is what keeping the ugly Test alive in most countries. I cant wait for pathetic of a format to die once it for all.

I respect and like international t-20s, but I couldn't care less about a match between Mumbai minions and Chennai chamchas. Not so sorry about that.

And like I said above, your and your buddy Joseph's dream will remain a dream.
 
It will happen near 2025.
Plz play ipl fo 6 months
One match per week for every team.
 
I respect and like international t-20s, but I couldn't care less about a match between Mumbai minions and Chennai chamchas. Not so sorry about that.

And like I said above, your and your buddy Joseph's dream will remain a dream.

Almost my feeling.

T20 is a beautiful niche to draw crowds internationally.

Who cares about Peshawar Goats vs Quetta Winters?

Never have watched any league nor ever will.
 
Almost my feeling.

T20 is a beautiful niche to draw crowds internationally.

Who cares about Peshawar Goats vs Quetta Winters?

Never have watched any league nor ever will.

Agreed. But I hope you appreciate that these leagues will help those domestic cricketers immensely.

I have not watched a single IPL match in the last 10 years. Only followed the scores of matches for some of the young Indian talents. But from 10 - 15 cricketers making a good living from cricket, and some 100 odd cricketers having to find other jobs outside the cricket season, we now have a situations where a good 100 cricketers make a great living and its also helping the non IPL playing domestic cricketers.

Same will become the case for PSL in 5 years.

Nothing wrong in not appreciating T20 cricket, but we should not be blinded to the financial independence it has brought the cricketers.
 
T20's are the future.League cricket will eventually overtake international games like in Football where multi team competitions are the main attraction in internationals.
 
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T20's are the future.League cricket will eventually overtake international games like in Football where multi team competitions are the main attraction in internationals.

There is some merit here.

Not long ago, for a sport like football, International level was seen as the ultimate. The World Cup was the pinnacle.

But the club game has changed as their market has expanded globally. Before the English Premier League was a UK product, broadcast for a domestic audience. Now the world watches it, and pays for the privilege - bringing money into clubs.

Before, the World Cup was where you saw the best players. I remember watching football growing up, I saw the likes of Zidane and the Brazilian Ronaldo for the first time in WC 98. You looked forward to the event to see the next great player. But now with the global reach of the club game, you see these guys play for their clubs in their domestic competition - Ronaldo or Messi are identified much more as players for Real Madrid and Barcelona, then Portugal or Argentina, and their success is defined by how many Champions League titles they have won, or the Ballon D'Or.

And this is all because players know which side their bread is buttered.

If the IPL, or any league for that matter, had the capacity to 1) survive without the other boards, and 2) outpay every other form of cricket, then the best will go there. Its a career. If someone offered to double my salary, I would leave where I am tomorrow.

Its not like other leagues will not survive - they will. But I guess they will become a breeding ground for the top leagues - again, like in football. Instead of having to prove your worth internationally, you perform for XYZ and win a bigger contract.
 
An IPL match makes 9 million USD a match. There are 22 players playing it, several others on the bench. And then there are other costs with hosting such a league and profit for franchise, BCCI. So yeah, Lalit pulled that figure out from you know where.

Thats only broadcast fees. There are other sponsors.
 
Thank you for this pointless reply. Broadcast revenue makes up 90 percent of the total pie.

And you have the figures for each teams sponsor payments? Guess no. So its impossible to say exactly how much broadcast revenues contribute. Majority yes.

If you read the OP you will sed that LM yalks about removing the salary cap, which means billionaire owners can bankroll the teams.
 
“Today international cricket does not matter. It is of zero value to the Indian fan. First it was the Indian team then everything else. Now it is the IPL first, then everything else.

Indians on the forum is this really true? Surely this a pure lie as country always comes over a club competition. Zero value is an overstatement.

I think Indians on this forum are much more interested in cricket than the average fan, and they may indeed prefers Tests to IPL. However, for the average fan the 3 hours and game over format of IPL may be more appealing.
 
An IPL match makes 9 million USD a match. There are 22 players playing it, several others on the bench. And then there are other costs with hosting such a league and profit for franchise, BCCI. So yeah, Lalit pulled that figure out from you know where.

That's today. In 5 years, that number will triple. Add the other revenue sources and it's realistic that each IPL game will generate around 30 to 40 million per game. Of course, not all players will be at the high end of earnings, but in 10 years, I think its pretty much guaranteed that the highest paid Indian in the IPL will be raking in a million per game.
 
I think IPL will also have to relax the overseas player quota if it wants to grow internationally & make it an attractive proposition for the foreign players so that they will choose IPL contract over the national contract.
ODI is still the favourite format for most of the people in India,not sure if they will enjoy the overdose of T20 if the ipl grows into a 6month tournament
 
Lol, this guy is living in a fantasy. First of all, there is no guarantee that T20 cricket will be relevant past the next decade or so. With newer, shorter formats like T10 rearing their more appealing heads, T20 will die the death that it had been threathing tests and ODIs with.

Secondly, T20 (or more realistically, T10) leagues will never become the premier competition of this sport. If you look at the climate today, outside of India and the West Indies, no one considers leagues as anything more than a 'tamasha' and this includes Pakistan, Australia, England, South Africa and even minnows like Afghanistan and Bangladesh. While these teams will keep working on their international teams and enjoy periods of international dominance, this overt forcus on domestic leagues will ensure that the Indian national team becomes a joke. After all, no one in India will want to be the next Cheteshwar Pujara or Murali Vijay but everyone would love to be the next Rohit Sharma and Dinesh Karthick.

How much longer before an over saturation of domestic leagues (one overlooked point is that as every country has their own league, players will be less tempted to go play in India because they can just do so at home) and a diminishing returns from the national team lead to the IPL being substantially neutered or outright killed? I'd give it another 12-15 years.

Once the IPL dies off, its spawn (all the other T20 leagues) will wither away too. Cricket has too much history embedded in the international game for a T20 competition to take over.

India is a one-sport country. It's fans will not be satisfied until its cricketers are acknowledged by the rest of the world and that will only continue to happen if it keeps producing good international cricketers (batsmen). Guess what, Modi? This will only happen through international cricket.
 
$1m per match to face 40-60 balls or bowl 24 balls

Especially in a country where thousands of people who sleep on railway tracks and roadsides
 
Lalit Modi is a criminal and should be brought to books, but no one understands the business of cricket better than him.

Club-based cricket is the future. BCCI is missing people like Modi.
 
Lol, this guy is living in a fantasy. First of all, there is no guarantee that T20 cricket will be relevant past the next decade or so. With newer, shorter formats like T10 rearing their more appealing heads, T20 will die the death that it had been threathing tests and ODIs with.

Secondly, T20 (or more realistically, T10) leagues will never become the premier competition of this sport. If you look at the climate today, outside of India and the West Indies, no one considers leagues as anything more than a 'tamasha' and this includes Pakistan, Australia, England, South Africa and even minnows like Afghanistan and Bangladesh. While these teams will keep working on their international teams and enjoy periods of international dominance, this overt forcus on domestic leagues will ensure that the Indian national team becomes a joke. After all, no one in India will want to be the next Cheteshwar Pujara or Murali Vijay but everyone would love to be the next Rohit Sharma and Dinesh Karthick.

How much longer before an over saturation of domestic leagues (one overlooked point is that as every country has their own league, players will be less tempted to go play in India because they can just do so at home) and a diminishing returns from the national team lead to the IPL being substantially neutered or outright killed? I'd give it another 12-15 years.

Once the IPL dies off, its spawn (all the other T20 leagues) will wither away too. Cricket has too much history embedded in the international game for a T20 competition to take over.

India is a one-sport country. It's fans will not be satisfied until its cricketers are acknowledged by the rest of the world and that will only continue to happen if it keeps producing good international cricketers (batsmen). Guess what, Modi? This will only happen through international cricket.

All these countries that you have mentioned, England , Australia etc they are helpless if players choose to play for IPL. As much as I want Tests to be safe , it is looking more and more unlikely that they will be.
 
All these countries that you have mentioned, England , Australia etc they are helpless if players choose to play for IPL. As much as I want Tests to be safe , it is looking more and more unlikely that they will be.

Fact is, they won't. Australia and England will have their own established T20 leagues by the time any world class player even thinks about playing for a club over his country. Then you have the other 12 leagues all over the world and this T20 cricket fad will die off within another couple of decades. Why would an Australian want to sacrifice his national contract and his place in the BBL to play the IPL for two months? It won't happen.

However, Indian cricketers will start preferring club cricket over national duty and if this takes us back to the time where Pakistan would spank India all around the field, I cannot wait!
 
Fact is, they won't. Australia and England will have their own established T20 leagues by the time any world class player even thinks about playing for a club over his country. Then you have the other 12 leagues all over the world and this T20 cricket fad will die off within another couple of decades. Why would an Australian want to sacrifice his national contract and his place in the BBL to play the IPL for two months? It won't happen.

However, Indian cricketers will start preferring club cricket over national duty and if this takes us back to the time where Pakistan would spank India all around the field, I cannot wait!

Bigbash is an established T20 league in Australia and Australian internationals don't play in it. The reason being there is no window for bigbash like IPL. Your comments about T20 remind me of the comments people made when ODI cricket was started. T20s are here to stay. The game always evolves based on what fans want. If they want some thing else in 20 years, then the boards will adopt that. It's much easier for the richest board to adopt based on their massive fanbase
 
Lol, this guy is living in a fantasy. First of all, there is no guarantee that T20 cricket will be relevant past the next decade or so. With newer, shorter formats like T10 rearing their more appealing heads, T20 will die the death that it had been threathing tests and ODIs with.

Secondly, T20 (or more realistically, T10) leagues will never become the premier competition of this sport. If you look at the climate today, outside of India and the West Indies, no one considers leagues as anything more than a 'tamasha' and this includes Pakistan, Australia, England, South Africa and even minnows like Afghanistan and Bangladesh. While these teams will keep working on their international teams and enjoy periods of international dominance, this overt forcus on domestic leagues will ensure that the Indian national team becomes a joke. After all, no one in India will want to be the next Cheteshwar Pujara or Murali Vijay but everyone would love to be the next Rohit Sharma and Dinesh Karthick.

How much longer before an over saturation of domestic leagues (one overlooked point is that as every country has their own league, players will be less tempted to go play in India because they can just do so at home) and a diminishing returns from the national team lead to the IPL being substantially neutered or outright killed? I'd give it another 12-15 years.

Once the IPL dies off, its spawn (all the other T20 leagues) will wither away too. Cricket has too much history embedded in the international game for a T20 competition to take over.

India is a one-sport country. It's fans will not be satisfied until its cricketers are acknowledged by the rest of the world and that will only continue to happen if it keeps producing good international cricketers (batsmen). Guess what, Modi? This will only happen through international cricket.

It's you in denial actually. Let me rip apart your arguments section by section.

According to many experts, test cricket might not exist in a decade. Also u seem to underestimate BCCIs adaptability. They might have copied the idea of a franchise based T20 but they have taken it to levels that were unimaginable just a few years ago. Let the following sink in carefully. IPL TV rights for 5 years are 2.55 bil. ICC's projected revenues through rights for 8 years are 2.5 to 2.7 bil. IPL makes as much money in 5 years as all the world cups and other block buster ICC tournaments make in 8 years. If in a decade T10 is the way to go, IPL will be a T10 tournament. Simple. And they will cash in every penny. A growing massive Indian middle class is where all the ad buyers want to reach.

As far as a few teams considering T20s a joke, let me enlighten you that Indian team is one of the premier teams that doesn't care about T20 internationals. They rarely play with their full squad and is usually a testing ground for youngsters. Pakistan is the only team that takes T20Is seriously. Superstars from all the countries you mentioned barring Pak play regularly only in T20 world cups and IPL. Indian team takes IPL very seriously and no, they haven't fallen apart. India is no. 1 in tests and ODIs and 3rd in T20s. They are doing well despite your comment about them falling to their impending doom. IPL as per the cricketers has helped their game greatly. They are also well aware that the big monies always go to players who perform well internationally.

As far as India not producing another pujara or Vijay, don't worry about that either. Indian domestic cricket is strong and at the end if the free market dictates that tests are not viable then the domestic structure will adjust itself.

There is oversaturation of domestic leagues, yes but that's with CPL, BPL, PSL etc. It's the same set of players that keep playing these tournaments and it could get monotonous. IPL has its own window and there is no other cricket on tv during IPL. Many super stars don't even play their domestic T20 leagues but play IPL. So, thats quite opposite to your claim that players will stop playing IPL because they could play their domestic T20. No one did, no one will and no one can, pay as much as IPL did or does in the future. It will continue to attract top players. At the end of the day the league that attracts 500 million people will win.

Once the IPL dies off? Now that's next level delusion. The league that makes more than the coveted world cups and other ICC tournament dies off? The other leagues will wither away due to lack of variety or due to lack of quality talent. IPL can slowly cannibalize these leagues by imposing restrictions on players to play only a certain number of leagues a year. There is already a precedence with Bravo and Russell feigning injuries during PSL to be fresh for IPL. Mitch Johnson withdrawing his PSL commitment because of IPL. In the future it could be something more official from franchises to keep their players fresh.

India is a one sport country and hence cricket in various forms will be digested by it's massive population. If you think the IPL rights were incredible, look at the rights for BCCIs home ftp. Per game rights are even more than IPL. What does that tell you? There are viewers for international games as well as IPL. Both have a place.
 
Didn't mention another point in my earlier post. VIVO has a title sponsorship for IPL for 5 years. Guess how much they paid for it. 330 million USD. That's more than the TV rights of majority of the cricket playing nations barring India, Aus, Eng for a 5 year period. I have ignored to add Millions of sponsorships from other companies here because they are a mere footnote when compared to the above numbers.
 
That's today. In 5 years, that number will triple. Add the other revenue sources and it's realistic that each IPL game will generate around 30 to 40 million per game. Of course, not all players will be at the high end of earnings, but in 10 years, I think its pretty much guaranteed that the highest paid Indian in the IPL will be raking in a million per game.

IPL wouldn't be generating anywhere close to 30 million USD 5 years from now. It'd do well to touch 20 million USD from the current 9 million. Beyond the 5 year horizon, there's no guarantee IPL would witness the double digit growth it is experiencing currently. It would keep growing but there would be competition from unknown quarters as well as risk of saturation and over-exposure. 10 years from now it's possible a single IPL game generates close to 30 million USD and that wouldn't be enough for million dollar payday per game.

By all accounts, Lalit was emitting hot air and clearly a lot of acolytes inhaled it and got high.
 
IPL wouldn't be generating anywhere close to 30 million USD 5 years from now. It'd do well to touch 20 million USD from the current 9 million. Beyond the 5 year horizon, there's no guarantee IPL would witness the double digit growth it is experiencing currently. It would keep growing but there would be competition from unknown quarters as well as risk of saturation and over-exposure. 10 years from now it's possible a single IPL game generates close to 30 million USD and that wouldn't be enough for million dollar payday per game.

By all accounts, Lalit was emitting hot air and clearly a lot of acolytes inhaled it and got high.

IPL will grow along with India. They don't need to invent a wheel. Look at Major league baseball. Just copy that model. Baseball superstars have some of the highest salaries in sports
 
IPL wouldn't be generating anywhere close to 30 million USD 5 years from now. It'd do well to touch 20 million USD from the current 9 million. Beyond the 5 year horizon, there's no guarantee IPL would witness the double digit growth it is experiencing currently. It would keep growing but there would be competition from unknown quarters as well as risk of saturation and over-exposure. 10 years from now it's possible a single IPL game generates close to 30 million USD and that wouldn't be enough for million dollar payday per game.

By all accounts, Lalit was emitting hot air and clearly a lot of acolytes inhaled it and got high.

If anything 30 mm is a conservative estimate. Lalit modi is a desperate idiot, and says a lot of dumb things to be taken too seriously. But the expansion and consistent increase in IPL's value is guaranteed.
 
Fact is, they won't. Australia and England will have their own established T20 leagues by the time any world class player even thinks about playing for a club over his country. Then you have the other 12 leagues all over the world and this T20 cricket fad will die off within another couple of decades. Why would an Australian want to sacrifice his national contract and his place in the BBL to play the IPL for two months? It won't happen.

However, Indian cricketers will start preferring club cricket over national duty and if this takes us back to the time where Pakistan would spank India all around the field, I cannot wait!

Australia already has their own league. Guess what happened when the BBL was on and the IPL held its auction?? Not just players, even coaches abandoned their BBL teams and high-tailed it to India to make sure they were available to their IPL bosses. Reality is that the likes of BBL, CPL etc are like the minor leagues for the IPL. Players will use those leagues as means to make extra money, and audition their talents. IPL is where the real money is, and the absolute best level of competition is. There's nothing innately Indian about that fact - its because its the richest league, and so it can afford the highest salaries, and as a result, gets the best players.

No other league is going to be capable of matching those income numbers. The math doesn't add up. Simple as that.
 
Bigbash is an established T20 league in Australia and Australian internationals don't play in it. The reason being there is no window for bigbash like IPL. Your comments about T20 remind me of the comments people made when ODI cricket was started. T20s are here to stay. The game always evolves based on what fans want. If they want some thing else in 20 years, then the boards will adopt that. It's much easier for the richest board to adopt based on their massive fanbase

:)))

Yet ODI format is under threat right now.

Talk about hitting your wicket.
 
:)))

Yet ODI format is under threat right now.

Talk about hitting your wicket.

Talk about inability to comprehend. Nothing new about you by the way. They said ODIs are pyjama cricket and worthless when they began in the 70s. ODIs have made billions of dollars for 40 years now. The game is now evolving again and moving towards T20s. Now they are saying T20s are worthless and pyjama cricket even though they started making billions already. Some people can't accept change. Some people like you can't comprehend stuff. This is just too deep for you.
 
Talk about inability to comprehend. Nothing new about you by the way. They said ODIs are pyjama cricket and worthless when they began in the 70s. ODIs have made billions of dollars for 40 years now. The game is now evolving again and moving towards T20s. Now they are saying T20s are worthless and pyjama cricket even though they started making billions already. Some people can't accept change. Some people like you can't comprehend stuff. This is just too deep for you.

Oh please do grow up!

This thread and Lalit Modi's comments are in reference to the IPL, NOT the T20 format itself.

For the record, ODI was not sanctified with a mercenary league, the World Series Cricket died an ignominious death in any case in ODIs.

So learn to compare apples with apples instead of claiming to rip apart arguments which you do not understand from the get go!
 
Oh please do grow up!

This thread and Lalit Modi's comments are in reference to the IPL, NOT the T20 format itself.

For the record, ODI was not sanctified with a mercenary league, the World Series Cricket died an ignominious death in any case in ODIs.

So learn to compare apples with apples instead of claiming to rip apart arguments which you do not understand from the get go!

This is what happens when you bring a broken twig to a knife fight. My response was to his comment about T20s being a fad and will go away. I will ignore the comprehension issues but you gotto at least read through the posts. Also, me ripping his arguments were for another post of his. Jeez, read before you make a mockery of yourself.
 
This is what happens when you bring a broken twig to a knife fight. My response was to his comment about T20s being a fad and will go away. I will ignore the comprehension issues but you gotto at least read through the posts. Also, me ripping his arguments were for another post of his. Jeez, read before you make a mockery of yourself.

Last time I checked he was talking about T20 leagues. If you are going to read, at least read in full and in context.
 
Last time I checked he was talking about T20 leagues. If you are going to read, at least read in full and in context.

I did and responded accordingly to each post. Like I said, atleast read stuff before commenting
 
Ah not sure how "soon" he meant but 17 million per season is just a little to0 much maybe...
 
I did and responded accordingly to each post. Like I said, atleast read stuff before commenting

Which means you are still hitting your own wicket.

If you are comparing on a format level, ODI is under threat, yet the comments in this thread remind you of what people were saying of ODI in the early 70s? How old are you again?

Thought so. You were not around in the 70s to hear what people were saying of ODI, you just cling on to what cricinfo says.

So, quit blagging just to impress people. because you only expose yourself.
 
Which means you are still hitting your own wicket.

If you are comparing on a format level, ODI is under threat, yet the comments in this thread remind you of what people were saying of ODI in the early 70s? How old are you again?

Thought so. You were not around in the 70s to hear what people were saying of ODI, you just cling on to what cricinfo says.

So, quit blagging just to impress people. because you only expose yourself.

As expected zero substance with zero knowledge. I rely my sources based on what experts say online. You probably heard your bhateeja say something stupid about ODIs in 70s and I don't care about that.

I have not seen a post from you that moves the discussion forward or bring some sort of fact to debate.
 
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As expected zero substance with zero knowledge. I rely my sources based on what experts say online. You probably heard your bhateeja say something stupid about ODIs in 70s and I don't care about that.

I have not seen a post from you that moves the discussion forward or bring some sort of fact to debate.

Your arguments revolve around revenue, that’s it. You got nothing else!

ODI – unlike 20/20 – was born out of a sheer accident. The format was the result of a rained off Test match. There was no design or method in the format to attract viewers or revenue as there is with shorter formats of the game.

ODI is the only format that has a World Cup in Cricket. Hard as it is to believe this is a fact. The World T20 is in actual fact an international championship, which is colloquially known as the T20 World Cup. Because of this, ODI is not going anywhere. ODI WC will remain the premier competition of the sport – NOT T20 leagues!

Your point of ODI earning Billions? Compare Apples with Applues. ODI earned Billions through its course of broadcasting rights since 1975 (Packer series was a failure), not through player salaries which is very different to the current T20 league setups where players can earn more than their central contracts via T20 leagues. Only now, Boards like ECB are now working on 2 types of contracts Red Ball, and White Ball.
Now, no one is saying that T20 format will die completely, but the respective leagues will fade in quality as more and more leagues are popping up, new formats including 100 Ball and T10 are in the pipeline too, which can threaten T20 by the simple virtue of being accepted in competitions like Olympics or Common Wealth games.

You talk about IPL having it's own window? England are playing a Test match in this year's IPL window vs. Pakistan. Tickets are sold out in advance. ECB will be starting their EPL in 20/20 which will overlap with the IPL window. Players not selected for the IPL will have the option of playing international games during the window too. IPL is NOT an ICC endorsed tournament. Remember this fact. Remember, players do not play in the IPL for quality, but for money only.

Ergo, for you to compare T20 with ODI on both a format level and league level is not just complete nonsense, but a disservice to intellect. You only are concerned about the IPL, which granted may be a hit in India, but until T20 leagues produce Test calibre players (which ODI can do) – T20 will remain tamasha and is way more under threat compared to Test and ODI.
 
Lalit Modi Plays A Winning Innings In Court: Legal Victory Shuts Out Allegations

In another legal victory, former Indian Premier League (IPL) chairman Lalit Modi has once again secured a resounding win in a London court case involving his previous venture, Ion Care, a cancer care business. Lalit Modi was sued by former model Gurpreet Gill Maag and Quantum Care, her company, seeking damages after investing approximately £750,000 in Ion Care, a company Modi was associated with. The prolonged legal battle, ongoing for several years, concluded with Modi successfully defending himself against the allegations.

Earlier, Judge Murray Rosen, who presided over the High Court trial in 2022, declined to find that Mr. Modi had made "actionable misrepresentations." However, Maag aimed to overturn a High Court decision stating that Modi did not make false representations to her. The venture capitalist also sought to overturn the judge's finding and filed an appeal in the Court of Appeal. However, in early 2023, Justices Guy Newey, Rabinder Singh, and Christopher Nugee rejected Maag's request to overturn the earlier High Court ruling that Lalit Modi made incorrect representations about the centre he intended to establish. The court ordered the appellants to pay Modi's appeal costs, subject to a detailed assessment.

During the detailed assessment, Maag again alleged misconduct, going so far as to question the involvement of Modi’s solicitors and claiming they were also guilty of misconduct. However, Senior Costs Judge Gordon Saker, after careful evaluation of the evidence, handed down his judgment on February 26, 2024, stating that there is no basis for concluding that there was any improper or unreasonable conduct on the part of Modi or his solicitors. Every legitimate legal cost that Modi incurred over the course of this case, including the main proceedings and the subsequent appeal by Maag, should be paid back to Modi with interest. The court's decision marks a significant triumph for Modi, who has consistently maintained his innocence throughout the proceedings.

Modi's legal team presented a robust defence, arguing that the charges were baseless. The court evidently agreed, delivering a verdict that not only exonerates Modi but also raises questions about the credibility of the accusations made against him.

The outcome of the court case serves as vindication for Lalit Modi, whose reputation had come under scrutiny amid the legal battle. Throughout his tenure as the chief architect of the IPL, Modi revolutionized the landscape of cricket administration in India, transforming the league into one of the most lucrative and widely watched sporting events globally.

Despite facing numerous challenges and controversies over the years, including allegations of financial irregularities and conflicts of interest, Lalit Modi has remained a polarizing figure in the world of sports. With the conclusion of this legal saga in his favour, Modi is expected to focus on his various business ventures and continue his contributions to the sports and entertainment industry.

The Cost of judgement approx.

The bills of costs were assessed in the following amounts:

Main Proceedings Bill: £376,038.65

Court of Appeal Bill: £238,202.54

Total: £614,241.19

Less: Payments on account of £494,000

Balance for the Maags to pay (before interest & costs): £120,241.19.


 
UK loves housing criminals of South Asia.
Keeps the economy ticking i guess.
 
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