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The much-anticipated T20I series between Pakistan and South Africa kicks off on December 10, 2024, at Kingsmead, Durban. This series marks the return of several key players for both teams, setting the stage for an exciting contest.

Pakistan will be led by Mohammad Rizwan who has been in fine form across formats. Babar Azam, fresh from a break returns to the side and will be crucial in anchoring the innings. On the bowling front, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Haris Rauf lead the pace attack, while Sufyan Moqim, a promising left-arm wrist spinner adds variety to the spin department. Youngster Saim Ayub is also a player to watch bringing flair and aggression at the top of the order.

South Africa will be without regular captain Aiden Markram, who is resting after the Test series against Sri Lanka. Heinrich Klaasen steps in as the stand-in skipper. The Proteas will rely on a mix of youth and experience, with batters like Reeza Hendricks and bowlers such as Lungi Ngidi expected to shoulder significant responsibility. The absence of key players like Gerald Coetzee due to injury adds pressure on South Africa's depth

Kingsmead, known for its pace-friendly conditions is expected to offer good bounce and carry favoring fast bowlers from both sides. With Pakistan boasting a formidable pace attack and South Africa traditionally strong at home a competitive game is on the cards


Squads

Pakistan:
Mohammad Rizwan (C & wk), Abrar Ahmed, Babar Azam, Haris Rauf, Jahandad Khan, Mohammad Abbas Afridi, Mohammad Hasnain, Muhammad Irfan Khan, Omair Bin Yousuf, Saim Ayub, Salman Ali Agha, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Sufyan Moqim, Tayyab Tahir and Usman Khan (wk)

South Africa: Heinrich Klaasen (C), Ottneil Baartman, Matthew Breetzke, Donovan Ferreira, Reeza Hendricks, Patrick Kruger, George Linde, Kwena Maphaka, Anrich Nortjé, Nqaba Peter, Ryan Rickelton, Tabraiz Shamsi*, Andile Simelane, Rassie van der Dussen


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Well it's not that difficult, if India could maul them then so do Pakistan.Test format would be the real challenge
 
If Pakistan field their main team, I expect Pakistan to win the T20 series.
Naw, Pakistan can win odi series. Test and t20? No shot.

Our playing 11 will likely be

1) Rizwan (c)(wk) (Useless as a t20 opener)

2) Saim Ayub

3) Babar Azam (Good for PP if saim or rizwan gets dismissed early, becomes a liability as soon as 6 overs are done. Both he and rizzu are avg 25-28 with sr of 80 to 110 in their last 7 t20 games)

4) Usman Khan (Hasn't Kicked off in t20 as of yet)

5) Salman Ali Agha (Useless in t20)

6) Jahndad Khan/ Tayyab Tahir

7) Irfan Khan Niazi (Ordinary)

8-11) Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Sufiyan Muqeem/ Abrar, Husnain/ Abass Afridi. (NONE of the pacers are in great form besides rauf in pacy conditons and Abrar/ Sifiyan won't be suited in sa pitches)

Omair won't play as Rizwan and Saim will be give priority for opening.
 
My XI for 1st T 20 in batting order shall be
Saim Ayub
Omair
Babar
Tayyab
Rizwan
Irfan khan
Salman agha
Abbas Afridi
Shaheen afridi
Haris Rauf
Sufiyan muqeem
Pakistan has poor squad selection especially in batting strength. Should have selected couple more batters like Qasim akram and iftikhar
 
After watching today's game against Zimbabwe can you still predict the same about Pakistan?

Pakistan didn't field their main team in this game. It was like Pakistani C team.

I wouldn't look too much into it.

South African T20 team isn't that great. They almost lost against Nepal and BD in World T20. They lost against Netherlands before that.
 
Naw, Pakistan can win odi series. Test and t20? No shot.

Our playing 11 will likely be

1) Rizwan (c)(wk) (Useless as a t20 opener)

2) Saim Ayub

3) Babar Azam (Good for PP if saim or rizwan gets dismissed early, becomes a liability as soon as 6 overs are done. Both he and rizzu are avg 25-28 with sr of 80 to 110 in their last 7 t20 games)

4) Usman Khan (Hasn't Kicked off in t20 as of yet)

5) Salman Ali Agha (Useless in t20)

6) Jahndad Khan/ Tayyab Tahir

7) Irfan Khan Niazi (Ordinary)

8-11) Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Sufiyan Muqeem/ Abrar, Husnain/ Abass Afridi. (NONE of the pacers are in great form besides rauf in pacy conditons and Abrar/ Sifiyan won't be suited in sa pitches)

Omair won't play as Rizwan and Saim will be give priority for opening.
jahandad khan and usman are not international materials. Even a blind man can recognize other than these useless selectors. Asif ali and iftikhar ahmad were even better than these hacks.
 
Pakistan didn't field their main team in this game. It was like Pakistani C team.

I wouldn't look too much into it.

South African T20 team isn't that great. They almost lost against Nepal and BD in World T20. They lost against Netherlands before that.
Pak D team. Only abbas afridi and usman are main playing eleven players.
 
jahandad khan and usman are not international materials. Even a blind man can recognize other than these useless selectors. Asif ali and iftikhar ahmad were even better than these hacks.
Chacha isn't suited for t20. He's no different then Agha or Rizwan in t20. Beyond his sa innings he's useless.

In odi and tests chacha is medicore.

Similarly asif ali isn't a bad player, however I do think it's time to move on now.

But yes Usman Khan hasn't been performing In international
 
Pakistan are one of the very few if not the only one, that haven't adapted to modern T20 cricket. Lack of attacking prowess as well as consistent low SRs are worrying & its not improving I'm afraid.

They are not evolving no matter which coach you bring, no matter which player is picked as captain. Pakistan need to address these issues in the from grass root level.
 
Pakistan didn't field their main team in this game. It was like Pakistani C team.

I wouldn't look too much into it.

South African T20 team isn't that great. They almost lost against Nepal and BD in World T20. They lost against Netherlands before that.
yeah thats true but honestly speaking pak main players are even more horrible compared to that C side.
 
My playing 11:
  1. Saim
  2. Rizwan (can rest for omair)
  3. Babar
  4. Usman
  5. Tayyab
  6. Abbas
  7. Salman (he is gonna play as he is vice captain)
  8. Haris
  9. Shaheen
  10. Sufiyan
  11. Jahandad
 
My playing 11:
  1. Saim
  2. Rizwan (can rest for omair)
  3. Babar
  4. Usman
  5. Tayyab
  6. Abbas
  7. Salman (he is gonna play as he is vice captain)
  8. Haris
  9. Shaheen
  10. Sufiyan
  11. Jahandad
He's captain? Why would he rest himself in the first t20?

Also why does salman need to play? Sarfi was vc in 2016 of t20 but got dropped multiple times by afridi?

Rizwan as captain should have the guts to drop Agha.
 
He's captain? Why would he rest himself in the first t20?

Also why does salman need to play? Sarfi was vc in 2016 of t20 but got dropped multiple times by afridi?

Rizwan as captain should have the guts to drop Agha.
I want Salman dropped really.. He should not be even in the squad.
 
I want Salman dropped really.. He should not be even in the squad.
Genuinely speaking, while I dislike rizzu, Aqib Javed has impressed so far.

So I really don't understand his decison to make Agha vc?

So far aqib has

1) Gone back to the UAE mantra for tests to maintain home dominance.

2) Got rid of parchi's like shadab, Chacha, Imam.

3) Doesn't let the captain choose their 15 and takes away all captain decison power which prevents friendship cliques.

4) has actually given performers a chance and extended runs like Sufiyan, Saim, omair, Qasim, Kamran, Saud etc.

5) has selected squads based of conditons such as only taking nouman for sa as he knows sajid has a poor record overseas.

6) Has gotten rid of ladla systems as he's even given shaheen and Babar final warnings. This sa tour is basically make or break for Babar and shaheen, it's their final chance.

7) Is also trying his hardest to get fakhar zaman back after the tweet Fiasco and is negotiating with pcb.

Thanks to him pakistan has gotten wins against England and aus in test and odi's.

He's been fantastic so far, So I really don't understand his decison to support Agha as t20 vc and make Abdullah an odi and test opener?

I can understand why he made rizzu captain as their wasn't any one else. Haris, Fakhar, Saim and saud are unrealistic choices atm for pakistan in white-ball.

But why support Agha and Abdullah? That's the one area of his thinking process i just don't get?
 
Agha is supported because of his test heroics... Abdullah is just stylish.. the only merit he has
Yes ut aqib so far has proven himself to be a sharp cookie.

He was the only one to not buy into the Babar or Shaheen hype. Similarly he's also issued warnings to rizwan and made it clear that rizzu will have no say in choosing the 15.

Rizzu was made captain because his alternatives suck.

- Fakhar is a great player but as a captain he's equal to Sachin as a cap. Fakhar ran LQ into the ground as cap despite having an all-star team.

- Saud has a rubbish liat A captaincy record, only a good Fc captaincy record which is why he's test vc

- Haris was good in acc but that's because he had tayyab tahir, Omair and b string players playing against 16 to 18 year old kids. Once sides started taking acc seriously, he only mustered wins agaisnt minnow, Sri lanka and india butchered him.

However deapite this he's issued warning to rizwam, Babar, Shaheen and many others and has made it clear their marketing tactics don't work on him.

Yet for some reason Agha's test marketing tactics and Abdullah's technique marketing propaganda is working on aqib?
 
I want Salman dropped really.. He should not be even in the squad.
Salman is being groomed for future captaincy. He’s a solid test and Odi player just needs a little bit of experience in t20’s. When all are crumbling around him he doesn’t just start hacking away plus his bowling is very useful.
 
Agha is supported because of his test heroics... Abdullah is just stylish.. the only merit he has
Agha is supported because he’s an off spinning all rounder with a sensible head and has the ability to absorb pressure. He just needs to be able to kick on in Limited overs but this will come in time.

Abdullah is supported because he has made some soft runs which have bought him time plus there is no obvious alternative. As much as he’s going to be a sitting duck in South Africa he’s at least earned that 1 series. Which format he belongs in is open to debate.
 
The national squad departed from Bulawayo for South Africa. The Pakistan cricket team is set to play a series comprising three T20Is, three ODIs, and two Test matches against South Africa.

From Zimbabwe, the following players left for Durban: Salman Ali Agha, Irfan Khan, Haris Rauf, Saim Ayub, Abrar Ahmed, Mohammad Hasnain, Usman Khan, Abbas Afridi, Jahandad Khan, Sufiyan Muqeem, Tayyab Tahir, and Omair Bin Yousuf.

Captain Mohammad Rizwan, Babar Azam, and Shaheen Shah Afridi will join the team in Durban.

Haseebullah Khan, Arafat Minhas, Aamir Jamal, Sahibzada Farhan, and Qasim Akram have returned home to Pakistan.

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Saim
Usman+
Babar
TT
Salman
Rizwan c
JK
Abass
SSA
Rauf
Muqeem
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Usman should be given a go to make the decision for once and all, same way Rizwan and Agha performance should be watched closely to see whether they are required or not.
 
Pakistan are one of the very few if not the only one, that haven't adapted to modern T20 cricket. Lack of attacking prowess as well as consistent low SRs are worrying & its not improving I'm afraid.

They are not evolving no matter which coach you bring, no matter which player is picked as captain. Pakistan need to address these issues in the from grass root level.
But Babar and Rizwan are still there throughout

Kick those two out and then let’s talk about grass root level
 
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The national T20 squad has arrived in Durban from Zimbabwe.

Captain Mohammad Rizwan, Babar Azam, and Shaheen Shah have also reached Durban.

The Pakistan cricket team will rest tomorrow.

On Sunday, the Pakistan cricket team will practice at 9:30 AM local time.

The national squad will practice at Kingsmead Cricket Stadium.
 
Dire players dire team ...

Saim
Riz
Babar
???
???
???
Irfan (not proven yet)
Abbas Afridi
the other afrldi
Haris
Moqim

Hopefully Fakhar for top 4 for CT

Too many question marks, too many new faces in middle order, too many unproven, nothing new for Pak coming into a major tournament, under cooked, under prepared, forever in transition, forever Pakistan!
 
For the next 12 months Pakistan should use the T20s as an opportunity to try new players and experiment. I would have personally not picked Babar, Riz & Shaheen for the T20s. Anyways now that they are in the squad you got to play them at least two out of three games, otherwise whats the point of picking them.

My XI for the first game:

1. Omair Yousuf
2. Saim Ayub
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Khan
5. M Rizwan
6. Salman Agha
7. Abbass Afridi
8. Jahandad Khan
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Haris Rauf
11. Sufiyan Muqeem
 
For the next 12 months Pakistan should use the T20s as an opportunity to try new players and experiment. I would have personally not picked Babar, Riz & Shaheen for the T20s. Anyways now that they are in the squad you got to play them at least two out of three games, otherwise whats the point of picking them.

My XI for the first game:

1. Omair Yousuf
2. Saim Ayub
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Khan
5. M Rizwan
6. Salman Agha
7. Abbass Afridi
8. Jahandad Khan
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Haris Rauf
11. Sufiyan Muqeem
Pakistan need to look ahead now, Babar, Rizwan etc can't be part of future T20 sides anymore with stat padding. Unless they improvise, it's time to bid them farewell in this format.
 
For the next 12 months Pakistan should use the T20s as an opportunity to try new players and experiment. I would have personally not picked Babar, Riz & Shaheen for the T20s. Anyways now that they are in the squad you got to play them at least two out of three games, otherwise whats the point of picking them.

My XI for the first game:

1. Omair Yousuf
2. Saim Ayub
3. Babar Azam
4. Usman Khan
5. M Rizwan
6. Salman Agha
7. Abbass Afridi
8. Jahandad Khan
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Haris Rauf
11. Sufiyan Muqeem
Salman Agha and Jahandad Khan doesnt deserve his spot in T20 cricket...
 
No point in watching t20 series.

I will follow odi and test as pakistan has been headed in an upwards trajectory in odi and test thanks to aqib.

But in t20 it's a whitewash. With the reintroduction of Okdies like sajid, noman and new test buds like kamran ghulam + saud coming back in form,

It effectively means that t20 is now pakistan's weakest format with odi being their strongest.

Not that it means much as pakistan is still a pretty medicore odi team.
 
Pak will lose all three series very badly i can assure you that. Atleast Srilankans were fighting in tests
 
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Probably would go with

1. Usman
2. Saim
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Tayaab
6. Irfan
7. Salman (for his bowling to make up overs with Saim, performance in two other formats. I think with a bowling allrounder, we’ll be too weak batting wise, and Salman has done well coming in low in the other formats. I’ll give him another shot)
8. Abbas afridi
9. Shaheen
10. Haris
11. Muqeeb

Can switch Usman and Rizwan around, but I’d rather give Usman a shot opening to see if he’s truly international material or not.
 
Sad to see Babar Azam and SSA back in the team, they have not done anything to merit this return...

We also need to move past Haris Rauf, tried and tested failure...
 
South Africa should whitewash Pakistan in t20s and tests, in Odi's it could go 2-1 to SA.

Markram, Tristan, Reeza, Klassen, Miller is a strong batting lineup and Jansen, Rabada, Coetze should would be too hot to handle for run a ball type Pakistani batsmen.
 
Sad to see Babar Azam and SSA back in the team, they have not done anything to merit this return...

We also need to move past Haris Rauf, tried and tested failure...
Not really, we saw how potent he was in Australia, SA pitches have bounce and he can replicate his performances here, the next ODI world cup is also in SA, so Rauf should be persisted with.
 
Why isn’t Muhammad Haris part of Pakistan’s limited overs plans?
 
Not really, we saw how potent he was in Australia, SA pitches have bounce and he can replicate his performances here, the next ODI world cup is also in SA, so Rauf should be persisted with.
Whenever the pressure is on, Rauf fails to deliver time and again

WC 2023 was a disaster - he had a chance to redeem himself vs RSA but could not

T20 WC vs India - got taken to the cleaners by Virat Kohli

T20 WC 2024 - absolute disaster all round

I don't agree with your assessment, Haris Rauf has been given enough chances and needs to be dropped...
 
Just for a reminder he is the highest wicket taker in this format
Haris fails to take wickets when it matters the most, fails miserably under pressure

Examples

1. T20 WC 2022 - vs India (Virat Kohli destroyed him when it mattered)
2. WC 2023 - absolutely shameful performance, had that one outing vs RSA and failed to close off the match
3. T20 2024 - got absolutely destroyed by everyone

I don't know what stats you want to look at, but these are the ones that matter and he has failed on every single occassion..

A good performance in a bilateral series vs Australia counts for nothing..
 
Just to be clear, Haris Rauf has bowled so poorly for the past 2 years, that one good outing vs Australia in a meaningless bilateral series does not count for anything..

And please let's stop quoting meaningless stats like he is the highest wicket taker in the format, we all know how meekly he folds under pressure..

I strongly believe that his performances in the past 2 years have been so poor that he should be dropped, the only reason he is still playing is that we have no bowlers in the pipeline..

PSL has not developed any talent, primarily because it has morphed into a low-quality club-level cricket league with no international superstars opting to play in it..

Right now, we should be ashamed of how far we have fallen as a cricketing nation, how poor the quality of our T20 league is and how we have no cricketing talent on the horizon and have to persist with tried and tested failures like Haris Rauf..

Haris Rauf would not have been retained in the T20 teams of Australia, India, England, South Africa and New Zealand on his performances in the past 2 years and last 3 ICC events..
 
South Africa team is not so strong, big opportunity for team green in this series.
 
Big test of our batsmen, ball travels in SA let's see if they can cope with it.

Rizwan v Jansen will be fun
 
Hasnain and Omair bin Yousaf have just disappointed in the last series, let's see if they could do some wonders here. Especially curious to see case of Hasnain who does really well in leagues but unable to replicate it in internationals
 
National squad training at Crusaders Sports Club

The players practiced batting, bowling, and fielding.

The national squad had a three-hour practice session.

The Pakistani team will practice tomorrow at 2:30 PM local time at Kings Med Stadium.

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Pakistan seriously lacks a proper middle order, only TT has been a good inclusion, Agha & Irfan are clueless, JK and Jamal still raw.
 
Jansen will be making them jump in the tests.

A handful of wickets coming his way in that format by Pakistan.

Jansen, Coetzee, Rabada, Ngidi, Markram, Maharaj, Stubbs, Mulder, Burger won't be available for the series.

Rickleton, Maphaka and Breetzke are with the Test squad so they probably won't play the first T20I.

Shamsi may not play the first match because he's still playing some league.
 
My XI for 1st T 20 in batting order shall be
Saim Ayub
Omair
Babar
Tayyab
Rizwan
Irfan khan
Salman agha
Abbas Afridi
Shaheen afridi
Haris Rauf
Sufiyan muqeem
Pakistan has poor squad selection especially in batting strength. Should have selected couple more batters like Qasim akram and iftikhar
Why Ifthikhar ?? What did he do to impress u so far.. watch his last 7 matches and come back. If not I will give u more things to research … don’t trigger me with the post like this …
 
Why are they wearing sport bras every training session these days lol... what's the purposes for this?
 
Give them time just like u did with Ifthikhar …give him atleast 3 years just like that failure ifthikhar
Whether you give them 3 years or 30 they will remain as useless as Iftikhar so there's no point wasting time on them.
 
Jansen, Coetzee, Rabada, Ngidi, Markram, Maharaj, Stubbs, Mulder, Burger won't be available for the series.

Rickleton, Maphaka and Breetzke are with the Test squad so they probably won't play the first T20I.

Shamsi may not play the first match because he's still playing some league.
I was referring to the tests that will be played after the T20's and ODIs.
 
Big wicket, 6 down now and SA are firm favourites
 
Babar to score atleast 1 century. He just loves bouncy tracks. Bowl come to his bat very nicely in these type of tracks and conditions. I hope he gets his form from this tour.
 
in 2006 pakistan came very close to win a test series against one of the all time best southafrican teams under inzi captaincy.
Hope they will do this time.
 
How’s the ground?

Is it high scoring?

Average scores?
 
Power Proteas squad ready to wow Durban crowd again

Durban – This week the curtain will come down on another successful year of international cricket at Hollywoodbets Kingsmead Stadium when the Proteas host Pakistan in the first T20 International of the series on Tuesday.

Another exciting Proteas squad has been assembled with a handful of Hollywoodbets Dolphins stars in the mix with David Miller, Ottniel Baartman and Andile Simelane amongst the 15-man squad for the T20 series.

The Durban crowds came out in their numbers for the recent T20 International against India, and the team at Hollywoodbets Kingsmead Stadium are expecting another bumper crowd for the T20 against Pakistan this week.

"It's been an incredibly busy summer so far at Hollywoodbets Kingsmead Stadium and we want to finish on a high," CEO of KZN Cricket Heinrich Strydom said.

"It's our last international for the year and we are hoping that the crowds will come out in their numbers to cheer on our men's team.

"2024 has been another milestone year for Hollywoodbets Kingsmead Stadium and we want to end it on a high this week."

Heinrich Klaasen has been announced as the captain for the Proteas side for the series in the absence of Aiden Markram who is on duty with the Proteas test squad against Sri Lanka.

There are a few players that are involved in the test squad that aren't available for selection, however players like Tabraiz Shamsi and Anrich Nortje return to the T20 squad for the first time since the T20 World Cup.
 
How’s the ground?

Is it high scoring?

Average scores?

Last 5 years, average first innings score is around 197.

Very short square boundaries and even straight boundary is less than 70 m hit.

Bat first, score 200 and you can win
 
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