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It's official, 42 is Sri Lanka's lowest test total. Jansen with an amazing 13-7, they had no clue how to play himIn real danger of breaking their lowest test score record of 71
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It's official, 42 is Sri Lanka's lowest test total. Jansen with an amazing 13-7, they had no clue how to play himIn real danger of breaking their lowest test score record of 71
SL are all-out for 42.
Jansen gets a 7-fer.
South Africa are leading by 149 runs.
Almost every Test nation seems to have a fragile batting lineup.
SA were AO for 30 from 12.3 overs in 1924Is this the shortest innings in terms of balls?
Almost every Test nation seems to have a fragile batting lineup.
I hear you but this year has been wild. As it stands, these are the average international Test runs per wicket this decade:Not really. It's the pitches and this new kookaburra.
Seams around a lot . If people want runs, you need flatter pitches to start off.
Nah pak got likes of ayub who will enjoy these tracksSouth africa has destroyed srilanka here.
Pakistan is gonna get embarrassed here badly.
Seems like the person to blame for this wicket is a fellow called Wonderboy Khanyile.I guess this was just PR to make sure their stadiums avoid demerit points.
Btw, I don't mind these types of wickets at all. But you shouldn't be misrepresenting info publicly.
First up, at Kingsmead, Durban's long-serving groundsman Wilson Ngobese will retire at the end of this year and has been handing over the reins to his successor Wonderboy Khanyile.
Haha but wouldn't Wilson Ngobese be responsible for this? Since he is supposed to retire by the end of the year? I guess this is his parting gift for Sri LankaSeems like the person to blame for this wicket is a fellow called Wonderboy Khanyile.
Shortest completed innings in Tests (by balls)SL are all-out for 42.
Jansen gets a 7-fer.
South Africa are leading by 149 runs.
Reminds me of the time we got bowled out for 49 in South Africa. Although that was a far less bowling-friendly pitch.
Didn't watch the innings but that adds up. Must be a nightmare to face Jansen on this pitch.It's the seam movement. 8 of SL's dismissals were deliveries seaming over 0.75 degrees at high pace and from high release points of their bowlers.
They are a ridiculously tough attack to face on seaming pitches where they can outbowl anyone.
SA was roleld over for 55 recently by Siraj. They deliberately offer these pitches to visiting Asian sides. Sometimes it backfires. Most of the time it works for them. But it results in very short Tests.Didn't watch the innings but that adds up. Must be a nightmare to face Jansen on this pitch.
they would be stupid to offer this to india. india would kill them like they did in test 2 of sa tour.SA was roleld over for 55 recently by Siraj. They deliberately offer these pitches to visiting Asian sides. Sometimes it backfires. Most of the time it works for them. But it results in very short Tests.
Yeah I know. I don't get why they are misrepresenting their intentions though.SA was roleld over for 55 recently by Siraj. They deliberately offer these pitches to visiting Asian sides. Sometimes it backfires. Most of the time it works for them. But it results in very short Tests.
Well India has yet to win a series in South Africa so I wouldn't be so confident just yet.they would be stupid to offer this to india. india would kill them like they did in test 2 of sa tour.
but yea against crap teams like pakistan bdesh etc it would work
i want SA to try these out vs sen teams too. i am positive they can beat any team on such pitches despite being a lottery. india would cause them the most problems on such pitches though
indian bowling is world class but batting is trash.Well India has yet to win a series in South Africa so I wouldn't be so confident just yet.
They did this to Australia when they bowled them out for 47 some years ago. I think it was 2011 under the captaincy of Clarke.
they would be stupid to offer this to india. india would kill them like they did in test 2 of sa tour.
but yea against crap teams like pakistan bdesh etc it would work
i want SA to try these out vs sen teams too. i am positive they can beat any team on such pitches despite being a lottery. india would cause them the most problems on such pitches though
not always. its 50 50LOL. South African pitches are often like this (India or no India). India are yet to win a series in South Africa.
Bro what are pak chances in sa tests hopefully its better than what sri lanka are doing there i think pak got reasonably decent test batting whats your take on pak chances with noman and sajid and ayub and kamran pak looks good.Well India has yet to win a series in South Africa so I wouldn't be so confident just yet.
They did this to Australia when they bowled them out for 47 some years ago. I think it was 2011 under the captaincy of Clarke.
World claas indian bowling was put to the sword by Elgar. Delusion.indian bowling is world class but batting is trash.
World claas indian bowling was put to the sword by Elgar. Delusion.
Indian bowling is world class.World claas indian bowling was put to the sword by Elgar. Delusion.
Actually that particular match pitch got better and better to bat on. Once Indian batting let us down unable to cross 250 if i am right in either innings.Indian bowling is world class.
Elgar is a good player.
He mutilated fodder pakistan attacks with ease. Go crawl back to your cave.
This is what happens when you talk too much out of the rear.Outside of Asia, Indian Test bowling attack is all about Bumrah.
Without Bumrah, the attack becomes quite benign.
Without mcg Australia attack is impotent back in 2000 to 2005 era. That's why the lost to England and India away from home.Outside of Asia, Indian Test bowling attack is all about Bumrah.
Without Bumrah, the attack becomes quite benign.
Why dont you just admit every team have their great periods pak had it now india is having bangladesh is yet to have that period.Without mcg Australia attack is impotent back in 2000 to 2005 era. That's why the lost to England and India away from home.
Lol best player not available will make attack weak. It's not rocket science.
Actually this is the best period for Bangladesh fast bowling. Rana, Shoriful, Taskin. But their batting has very low ceiling.Why dont you just admit every team have their great periods pak had it now india is having bangladesh is yet to have that period.
Ya true bro as always you made good points bangladesh batting needs to fire now.Actually this is the best period for Bangladesh fast bowling. Rana, Shoriful, Taskin. But their batting has very low ceiling.
Team | Players | Span | Mat | Inns | Overs | Mdns | Runs | Wkts | BBI | BBM | Ave | Econ | SR | 5 | 10 |
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India | 27 | 2018-2024 | 8 | 73 | 1045.5 | 203 | 3198 | 132 | 7/61 | 8/86 | 24.22 | 3.05 | 47.5 | 7 | 0 |
England | 22 | 2015-2020 | 8 | 87 | 1405.4 | 340 | 3953 | 138 | 6/17 | 9/100 | 28.64 | 2.81 | 61.1 | 5 | 0 |
Pakistan | 14 | 2018-2019 | 3 | 29 | 402.5 | 73 | 1381 | 45 | 4/62 | 6/99 | 30.68 | 3.42 | 53.7 | 0 | 0 |
New Zealand | 11 | 2016-2016 | 2 | 15 | 288.4 | 62 | 853 | 25 | 5/86 | 6/104 | 34.12 | 2.95 | 69.2 | 1 | 0 |
Australia | 15 | 2018-2018 | 4 | 43 | 737.5 | 140 | 2374 | 68 | 5/34 | 9/109 | 34.91 | 3.21 | 65.1 | 2 | 0 |
Sri Lanka | 23 | 2016-2021 | 7 | 67 | 957.3 | 119 | 3471 | 99 | 6/122 | 8/133 | 35.06 | 3.62 | 58.0 | 4 | 0 |
Zimbabwe | 11 | 2017-2017 | 1 | 6 | 78.3 | 6 | 305 | 8 | 3/57 | 3/57 | 38.12 | 3.88 | 58.8 | 0 | 0 |
West Indies | 21 | 2014-2023 | 5 | 48 | 730.2 | 107 | 2545 | 61 | 5/47 | 7/111 | 41.72 | 3.48 | 71.8 | 2 | 0 |
Bangladesh | 21 | 2017-2022 | 4 | 42 | 693.1 | 93 | 2467 | 45 | 6/135 | 9/202 | 54.82 | 3.55 | 92.4 | 1 | 0 |
I don't think they have much of a chance. Even if bowlers bowl well, batters will most likely blow it.Bro what are pak chances in sa tests hopefully its better than what sri lanka are doing there i think pak got reasonably decent test batting whats your take on pak chances with noman and sajid and ayub and kamran pak looks good.
Ya this time pak actually has decent batting i am confident on pak chances bro they just need to hold their catches.I don't think they have much of a chance. Even if bowlers bowl well, batters will most likely blow it.
Best case scenario is getting a lottery pitch like this, bowl South Africa really cheaply and get a sizeable lead.
England - one team that always does well in South Africa. I actually can't remember the last time they even lost a series in South Africa.Last 10 years bowling performance by various Touring teams in South Africa
Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 India 27 2018-2024 8 73 1045.5 203 3198 132 7/61 8/86 24.22 3.05 47.5 7 0 England 22 2015-2020 8 87 1405.4 340 3953 138 6/17 9/100 28.64 2.81 61.1 5 0 Pakistan 14 2018-2019 3 29 402.5 73 1381 45 4/62 6/99 30.68 3.42 53.7 0 0 New Zealand 11 2016-2016 2 15 288.4 62 853 25 5/86 6/104 34.12 2.95 69.2 1 0 Australia 15 2018-2018 4 43 737.5 140 2374 68 5/34 9/109 34.91 3.21 65.1 2 0 Sri Lanka 23 2016-2021 7 67 957.3 119 3471 99 6/122 8/133 35.06 3.62 58.0 4 0 Zimbabwe 11 2017-2017 1 6 78.3 6 305 8 3/57 3/57 38.12 3.88 58.8 0 0 West Indies 21 2014-2023 5 48 730.2 107 2545 61 5/47 7/111 41.72 3.48 71.8 2 0 Bangladesh 21 2017-2022 4 42 693.1 93 2467 45 6/135 9/202 54.82 3.55 92.4 1 0
Will be heavily dependant on how Babar and Rizwan do. They are the only two Pak batters who have shown some kind of spine in SENA in the past. Hopefully Babar finds his form again in this series. The last tour of South Africa was a breakthrough tour for him as a test batter.Ya this time pak actually has decent batting i am confident on pak chances bro they just need to hold their catches.
After playing against swinging DUkes it is not that hard to play swinging Kookaburra. Also the surfaces they offer varies from opposition to opposition. For eample India never gets to play at Durban on purpose as it aids spinners. Not a single test played by India there in the last 11 years.England - one team that always does well in South Africa. I actually can't remember the last time they even lost a series in South Africa.
Still winning every series in South Africa that they've played since the 2000s is an impressive achievement. They've won every series in England too barring the 2008 one.After playing against swinging DUkes it is not that hard to play swinging Kookaburra. Also the surfaces they offer varies from opposition to opposition. For eample India never gets to play at Durban on purpose as it aids spinners. Not a single test played by India there in the last 11 years.
SA pitches have high clay content. Clay, Silt, Sand. Generally pitches are made up of this. In SA pitches silt content is very high. Also each local soil has unique characteristics. When you say clay not all of them have similar nature. In West Indies there are 5 different types of clays. what SA does is the adjust the mixture of these contents depending on the opposition anddo what we call "tailoring of" pitches. This is why you see batting paradises in T20/ODI games and unplayable surfaces in Tests.Still winning every series in South Africa that they've played since the 2000s is an impressive achievement. They've won every series in England too barring the 2008 one.
New Zealand also tend to do well in seam friendly conditions but they have struggled in South Africa.
That's some 5-D chess level thinking. Meanwhile Pakistan just used industrial fans and rakes to get the desired result lol.SA pitches have high clay content. Clay, Silt, Sand. Generally pitches are made up of this. In SA pitches silt content is very high. Also each local soil has unique characteristics. When you say clay not all of them have similar nature. In West Indies there are 5 different types of clays. what SA does is the adjust the mixture of these contents depending on the opposition anddo what we call "tailoring of" pitches. This is why you see batting paradises in T20/ODI games and unplayable surfaces in Tests.
It is true they do that. Not thinking lol This was shared long back. SA takes the fullest advantage of their home conditions. It doesn't work with other SENA countries as they have somewhat similar pitches. They ahve the right to make pitches however they want. But they should try to ensure match lasts more than 2 or 3 days.That's some 5-D chess level thinking. Meanwhile Pakistan just used industrial fans and rakes to get the desired result lol.
Those are lottery pitches. When you push the envelope too far it backfires. Every time INdia did it backfired and they lost.I don' think this pitch is anywhere near as bad as the pitch that India got at Newlands earlier this year. Even the one that India got in Jo'burg on the tour before that. Ironically enough, South Africa lost both the tests on the more dangerous surfaces but won the ones on the more balanced ones.
He’s speaking from his experience.
Just like Sri Lanka was all out for 42 in the first innings of the first Test, he is right in what he’s saying.
It is true they do that. Not thinking lol This was shared long back. SA takes the fullest advantage of their home conditions. It doesn't work with other SENA countries as they have somewhat similar pitches. They ahve the right to make pitches however they want. But they should try to ensure match lasts more than 2 or 3 days.
I actually take exception to them producing those types of pitches. Any pitch where the batter has a serious risk of getting hurt is going too far. And even in that Jo'burg test it was one of their own batters Dean Elgar that copped the worst blows in the fourth innings lol. It's one thing to produce pitches that suit your strengths, its another thing to produce straight-up dangerous surfaces. It's no wonder that so many of their pitches have racked up demerit points over the years.Those are lottery pitches. When you push the envelope too far it backfires. Every time INdia did it backfired and they lost.
I think South Africa is definitely the toughest place for openers to bat. Until a few years ago, openers had the lowest batting average in South Africa among all the countries. Not sure if the numbers support the case for other batters too but I would think so.He’s speaking from his experience.
Just like Sri Lanka was all out for 42 in the first innings of the first Test, he is right in what he’s saying.
Bro will kg play in sa series he should play he is in good touch?Will be heavily dependant on how Babar and Rizwan do. They are the only two Pak batters who have shown some kind of spine in SENA in the past. Hopefully Babar finds his form again in this series. The last tour of South Africa was a breakthrough tour for him as a test batter.
He doesn't seem like a particularly good player against pace and bounce. If I want to play a batter with such obvious flaws in moving conditions I would go with Saud Shakeel.Bro will kg play in sa series he should play he is in good touch?
Bro does saud has a game to succeed in sa dont get me wrong he is great in spinning conditions can he be handful is moving conditions?He doesn't seem like a particularly good player against pace and bounce. If I want to play a batter with such obvious flaws in moving conditions I would go with Saud Shakeel.
I don't know but I would rather give him a chance and see. Because I think he's one of the best future prospects for us who has done really well in test cricket so far. He is more deserving of that opportunity than Kamran.Bro does saud has a game to succeed in sa dont get me wrong he is great in spinning conditions can he be handful is moving conditions?
Ya thats right saud for now has earned that spot in 11.I don't know but I would rather give him a chance and see. Because I think he's one of the best future prospects for us who has done really well in test cricket so far. He is more deserving of that opportunity than Kamran.
@Nikhil_cric Think we should cut this South African batting line-up some slack. Despite their inexperience they have done well, all things considered. Bangladesh and West Indies aren't exactly difficult tours but getting the job done is important. And now they are in the running for a WTC final spot barring a major misstep. Had they not been forced to prioritize the SA20 over test cricket, I think we could have seen a different result in New Zealand too.