why should he bat at 4? you're acting like he's gotten ducks at the top of the innings
He's getting bounced out before he can feast into Shamsi and Tahir
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why should he bat at 4? you're acting like he's gotten ducks at the top of the innings
Hafeez won u the first game.
Malik is the only one mickey should be having a talk with
This is correct, hafeez won us a game in Australia where we were chasing 250 odd and of course did nothing in the other 4 Odis.
it was 220 odd at melbourne
if you have to rely on hafeez to win you every match, that pretty much says it all about the rest of the players
it was a game in which both hafeez and malik showed up. because it was something they could work with. based on their record anything beyond 270 against a top team in even conditions is beyond them. i hope to be proven wrong about hafeez, but 15 years is enough evidence. as for malik, less said the better.
I think FZ should bat at 4. Babar's solid at 3
They won’t drop Hafeez, Malik - only 3 spots available at 1-2-3. Opening with 2 lefti & then next 6 right handers isn’t a great idea. Babar is best suited for opening.
Ideally, I would have opened with Babar-Shan & FZ at 3.
They won’t drop Hafeez, Malik - only 3 spots available at 1-2-3. Opening with 2 lefti & then next 6 right handers isn’t a great idea. Babar is best suited for opening.
Ideally, I would have opened with Babar-Shan & FZ at 3.
babar
imam
fakhar
masood
hafeez
sarfraz
imad
shadab
You'd drop Imam? He was great in the first ODI. He also has a decent technique
Shan
Imam
Babar
Hafeez
Rizwan
Malik
Shadab
Hasan
Faheem/Talat/Shinwari
Amir
Shaheen
Not sure about greatness, but he did score 86 in a chase. 3 more games left and if he can prove his worth, definitely I'll change my mind. As of now, absolutely not convinced by his ODI batting. Without his uncle, he won’t have made the ODI squad, and won’t have lasted long enough to bash ZIM reserves. If PAK played Babar as opener against ZIM - he could have made a record of 5 consecutive hundreds. In fact, without uncle he won’t have been starting to make that 86 after his & Shan’s Test performance. IuH flew to SAF to make sure that Imam starts - to his fortune, first 2 games were on very much Asain tracks, still he failed one of two attempts. If he can repeat that 86 in one of next 3 innings, definitely he should start against Australia without the help of uncle.
For next 3 games, may be you can drop FZ instead of Imam because FZ looking ugly but bottom line is Shan deserves a chance. Players like FZ are always worth risking because the day he gets it right, will make a difference- Imam is very steady and so far steady at lower abb, with one statistical anomaly. And, I won’t play Shan at 5 instead of Malik - this is one ajeeb tactics by PCT - pick batsmen for scoring tons of runs at one position, then play him at another one. Asad averages 58+ in domestics (List A), and he has scored allmost all of his runs at 1-3, they batted him at 5/6; same is for Maqsood while Sarfraz is a middle order - they opened with him. Latest was Talat - is he a No. 7 player? ODI batting is position dependent - batsmen should be played for the position their game suits. Shan & Imam are not middle order batsman; Asif Butler isn’t a top order player.
India demolished SA last year just based on wrist spin. I'm surprised why Pakistan did not take cue from that India-SA series and played two wrist spinners. In the two games so far, Shadab has bowled really well. I would've included Usama Mir or Mohammad Irfan in the squad and played two wrist spinners in the playing XI. Playing Talat, a medium pacer, who is then going to bat at 7 is ridiculous. His bowling will be smashed to smithereens and his batting will be non-existent. Waste of a space really.
India are going to brush teams aside in England just with their two wrist spinners. Pakistan should follow the lead and induct another wrist spinner.
Both these names you have mentioned are not quite there for international cricket yet if you check their domestic stats, on the other hand I would rather invest in Mohammad Asghar instead.India demolished SA last year just based on wrist spin. I'm surprised why Pakistan did not take cue from that India-SA series and played two wrist spinners. In the two games so far, Shadab has bowled really well. I would've included Usama Mir or Mohammad Irfan in the squad and played two wrist spinners in the playing XI. Playing Talat, a medium pacer, who is then going to bat at 7 is ridiculous. His bowling will be smashed to smithereens and his batting will be non-existent. Waste of a space really.
India are going to brush teams aside in England just with their two wrist spinners. Pakistan should follow the lead and induct another wrist spinner.
The average 1st innings score at SuperSport Park in a day/night ODI is 275. Out of 21 matches played 11 have been won by the team batting first and 9 have been won by the team batting second.
Source CSA Twitter.
improve batting of Hasan & Amir -
India demolished SA last year just based on wrist spin. I'm surprised why Pakistan did not take cue from that India-SA series and played two wrist spinners. In the two games so far, Shadab has bowled really well. I would've included Usama Mir or Mohammad Irfan in the squad and played two wrist spinners in the playing XI. Playing Talat, a medium pacer, who is then going to bat at 7 is ridiculous. His bowling will be smashed to smithereens and his batting will be non-existent. Waste of a space really.
India are going to brush teams aside in England just with their two wrist spinners. Pakistan should follow the lead and induct another wrist spinner.
no, they are fine where they are as number 9 and 10 batsman, shadab is great at number 8.
we need to make our tail stronger.
imad has done well at the 7 spot as a batsman but yes outside of asia his bowling isn't as effective.
aamir yamin is a good batsman but his bowling isn't
this i can agree withImprove batting of Hasan & Amir doesn't mean they have to bat at 7 & 8 ..... they are perfect at 9 & 10; but always can add reliability in their batting.
You are beating the same bush - Shadab isn't good enough at 7, though he is performing better than some of the regular batsman above him. His Test average is 35, ODI average is 30, FC average is 32 & List A average is 29; and he is still U23 - more than enough to justify that he can be groomed for even No. 6; but I'll stick at No. 7 for the moment. Imad's competition is not for No. 7 - his bowling is not good enough for that, his competition has to be with Haris or Malik or Hafeez for No. 6 - someone making the XI on batting merit, but can contribute with ball as an option to Captain. He is definitely not good enough for that, just like Fahim Ashraf isn't for No. 8 (in any scope).
Not only PAK, actually every team will be happy to have a Gilchrist at 7, Hadlee at 8, Wasim Akram at 9, Warne at 10 & Marshall at 11, so it's a bit redundant to say that PAK needs stronger tail. PAK first needs 3-4 top order batsman who actually can score more often than not - covering top order batting weakness by batting length has never worked, it just reduces the defeat margin and gives occasional surprises. And, to do that at the cost of bowling strength, for a team like PAK is suicidal.
Take 2nd ODI - this is the worst SAF tail in living memory, even in 1950s they had Peter Pollock, McGlew & Peter Heine in lower half, still I am pretty sure they would have won chasing even 245/9 - anything under 250 was covered. The reason is that PAK was short by 2 bowlers - drop Talat & Fahim for Amir and another spinner; this SAF would have struggled to chase even 170 from 80-5 with that tail. On contrary, PAK's batting depth had given them an unda -112/8....
These sort of "all-rounder" are the biggest curse for PAK cricket. Play 5 batsman on batting merit (one of them can be 6th bowler in crisis or as an option), a WK who can bat and capable of making XI only on batting merit, a No. 7 who makes the XI on bowling merit but can bat (Shadab is more than perfect at that role, bonus is his fielding), a No. 8 who is better bowler & batsman than Fahim (if he was 10-12 years younger, I would have said Sohail Khan was perfect); 3 bowlers on absolute bowling merit (but push them hard not to go Yasir route with bat) - Amir, Hasan & Shaheen are the best available ..... and a Captain who does better Captaincy than yelling - a SF spot is still there to grab.
this i can agree with
yes he's performing better than malik and sarfraz, you need to replace malik and sarfraz not have shadab take a slot of a batsman.. shadab doesn't have the ability to play at a strike rate of 130 or score a hundred at that position... he's good for a 15-20 and on a good day a 30 with a strike rate of 80-90... by slotting him at 7 you're weakening an already weak batting line up... shadab is fine for number 8, hasan at 9, amir at 10 and shaheen at 11... we need someone for 7.
imam, babar, shan, fakhar, hafeez, rizwan, all rounder, shadab, hasan, amir, shaheen
is great, you need someone for number 7.
it's the 2020s, not 1990s where you shouldn't worry about tail batting.
need someone else at 7 that is not shadab..
if only asif ali could bowl some off spin.
mohammad nabi of afghansitan would be perfect for number 7
Both these names you have mentioned are not quite there for international cricket yet if you check their domestic stats, on the other hand I would rather invest in Mohammad Asghar instead.
Expecting Rabada and other black guy to get motivated by the taunt and get a 5 for in game 3 and 5After sarfraz stupid comments expecting this series to finish 4-1 in favour of SA.
SA will be pumped for the next games
Improve batting of Hasan & Amir doesn't mean they have to bat at 7 & 8 ..... they are perfect at 9 & 10; but always can add reliability in their batting.
You are beating the same bush - Shadab isn't good enough at 7, though he is performing better than some of the regular batsman above him. His Test average is 35, ODI average is 30, FC average is 32 & List A average is 29; and he is still U23 - more than enough to justify that he can be groomed for even No. 6; but I'll stick at No. 7 for the moment. Imad's competition is not for No. 7 - his bowling is not good enough for that, his competition has to be with Haris or Malik or Hafeez for No. 6 - someone making the XI on batting merit, but can contribute with ball as an option to Captain. He is definitely not good enough for that, just like Fahim Ashraf isn't for No. 8 (in any scope).
Not only PAK, actually every team will be happy to have a Gilchrist at 7, Hadlee at 8, Wasim Akram at 9, Warne at 10 & Marshall at 11, so it's a bit redundant to say that PAK needs stronger tail. PAK first needs 3-4 top order batsman who actually can score more often than not - covering top order batting weakness by batting length has never worked, it just reduces the defeat margin and gives occasional surprises. And, to do that at the cost of bowling strength, for a team like PAK is suicidal.
Take 2nd ODI - this is the worst SAF tail in living memory, even in 1950s they had Peter Pollock, McGlew & Peter Heine in lower half, still I am pretty sure they would have won chasing even 245/9 - anything under 250 was covered. The reason is that PAK was short by 2 bowlers - drop Talat & Fahim for Amir and another spinner; this SAF would have struggled to chase even 170 from 80-5 with that tail. On contrary, PAK's batting depth had given them an unda -112/8....
These sort of "all-rounder" are the biggest curse for PAK cricket. Play 5 batsman on batting merit (one of them can be 6th bowler in crisis or as an option), a WK who can bat and capable of making XI only on batting merit, a No. 7 who makes the XI on bowling merit but can bat (Shadab is more than perfect at that role, bonus is his fielding), a No. 8 who is better bowler & batsman than Fahim (if he was 10-12 years younger, I would have said Sohail Khan was perfect); 3 bowlers on absolute bowling merit (but push them hard not to go Yasir route with bat) - Amir, Hasan & Shaheen are the best available ..... and a Captain who does better Captaincy than yelling - a SF spot is still there to grab.
After sarfraz stupid comments expecting this series to finish 4-1 in favour of SA.
SA will be pumped for the next games
SA are a bunch of moaners. Can't wait to see their tears in the World Cup.
Shan
Imam
Babar
Hafeez
Rizwan
Shadab
Sarfraz
Faheem
Hassan
Amir
Shaheen
Amir and shaheen to take the new ball , hassan and faheem should bowl first and second change.
SA are a bunch of moaners. Can't wait to see their tears in the World Cup.