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Whined about rank turners for years.

Whined about Centurion pitch being an Indian pitch (lol).

Didn't complain when our bats were getting hit relentlessly in the 3rd innings.

But now when you have got hit (that too of a short ball), you can't wait to get out of the field.

Tell the umpires you are fine and play for God's sake.

Or be prepared to be called as spineless cowards.
 
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We need some cricinfo articles declaring how heavy pacer friendly tracks are better than heavy spin friendly tracks.

Considering how Nagpur pitch was such a big threat to life.
 
If india is on the other side of shoe. All forum will fill with threads about how India chickened out and they are sisies. Whether we win or lose, i want match to complete
 
India's got quite a mouth on them after being 2-0 down in the series :91:
 
It’s pathetic more than SA players why we umpires/match referee giving them the option? This pitch is lively not deadly there is a difference..

If this match gets abandoned I hope test cricket dies soon.. Such great battle and batsmen giving their 200% for every run they have to score and you abandon the match? Would be disgrace..
 
Surely the home board/team or whoever's responsible should be punished .
Being the superior side they could have easily beaten india on a normal fast wicket but they prepared this lottery of a track and now dont want to play on it apparently ..Lol
 
Funny how these 'cowards' beat the best team in the world.

No final decision has been made and you guys are overreacting.
 
India's got quite a mouth on them after being 2-0 down in the series :91:



What does 2-0 have to do with this? Any unbiased neutral fan who enjoys real test cricket would want this match to continue, even if India loses this match I wouldn’t be happy to have witnessed gritty/amazing batting by SA to achieve the target..

If they abandon it then so be it.. But such compelling matches are good for test cricket and are the real tests..
 
It would be hilarious if tomorrow the match is continued and SA beat India :))
 
This is quite a shame if it gets called off , SA is better than this.

I hope pitch conditions are not altered.
 
India's got quite a mouth on them after being 2-0 down in the series :91:

It’s not about winning or losing here...India completed 2 full innings here and played hostile bowling on a minefield...when it was South Africa’s turn they ran away...while it is not that complicated....it might be too complex for you....I understand
 
South Africans and Englishmen are always first to complain and first to run away. They have a sense of entitlement and expectations that everything should work for their advantage. If that is not the case, they will ***** and moan all day. Then they go and belittle whatever Asians achieve. Some of us Asian fans take their word on cricket legacy as final word and tend to undersell our own players..

In this case, SA might come back and play. If they refuse to play it might lead to too many complications between both the boards. Moreover, India's lower half survived on the same pitch. Who knows they might go on to win too.
 
Lol our tailenders got short stuff from Morne and co. On this pitch no less and their top order bats can't face ours. Such cowardice :P
 
Funny how these 'cowards' beat the best team in the world.

No final decision has been made and you guys are overreacting.

Cowards can be skilled. Moreover, they could have continued to stay on today. They didn't. It's not like umpires dragged them out.

Anyways, nothing against you brother.

I remember you and Buffet didn't utter a word about Indian pitches. Took it like a champ.

In return, we Indians took the SA pitches like a champ too. Won't you say so?
 
Surely the home board/team or whoever's responsible should be punished .
Being the superior side they could have easily beaten india on a normal fast wicket but they prepared this lottery of a track and now dont want to play on it apparently ..Lol
If tis track is lottery then why you hypocrites dnt say the same thing when indian tracks are turner. That also has to be lottery then.but we beat any side like galli muhalla team in subcontinent and are rightly so n.o. Here also toss mattered in these two previous matches.
 
Whined about rank turners for years.

Whined about Centurion pitch being an Indian pitch (lol).

Didn't complain when our bats were getting hit relentlessly in the 3rd innings.

But now when you have got hit (that too of a short ball), you can't wait to get out of the field.

Tell the umpires you are fine and play for God's sake.

Or be prepared to be called as spineless cowards.

And they bowled round the wicket bouncers to Indian tailenders. I guess that was fine. Indians lives don't matter. :)
 
It would be hilarious if tomorrow the match is continued and SA beat India :))

might very well happen. Indian lower order survived and the target is not so big.. improbable but certanely not impossible
 
Funny how these 'cowards' beat the best team in the world.

No final decision has been made and you guys are overreacting.

Yes you beat us fair and square congrats to you guys and your team well played.. However if your team does not play this match they would be seen in a poor light be neutral fans and any unbiased fans of the game.
 
Cowards can be skilled. Moreover, they could have continued to stay on today. They didn't. It's not like umpires dragged them out.

Anyways, nothing against you brother.

I remember you and Buffet didn't utter a word about Indian pitches. Took it like a champ.

In return, we Indians took the SA pitches like a champ too. Won't you say so?

I'm not a fan of namecalling, especially from a poster of your caliber. Surely you can see this is a complete overreaction?
 
I want to hear [MENTION=132982]soso_killer[/MENTION] opinion on this. He always whine about Indian pitches. What happened today brother. Whether match continue tomorrow or not. Today what happened is disgraceful from South Africa
 
It would be hilarious if tomorrow the match is continued and SA beat India :))

It won’t been hilarious it will be an epic batting display by SA and a wonderful treat for all fans to watch such compelling match..
 
If tis track is lottery then why you hypocrites dnt say the same thing when indian tracks are turner. That also has to be lottery then.but we beat any side like galli muhalla team in subcontinent and are rightly so n.o. Here also toss mattered in these two previous matches.

Calm dowm angry little guy .
Where did i talk about Indian tracks ??
 
Wholeheartedly agree with the op, they made their bed now they need to lie on it.
 
No one has called off the game yet, so I won't react to something that hasn't happened yet.

When it does, I will.

In the interim, I wouldn't term an entire international team as cowards.
 
I'm not a fan of namecalling, especially from a poster of your caliber. Surely you can see this is a complete overreaction?

I gave a conditional statement. Now upto SA to take action and let us know where they stand.

They could have said we will carry on but they didn't.

What's worse was that Bumrah's delivery landed short..not good length.

They begged for this exact pitch for years but walked out when they had the opportunity.
 
I want to hear [MENTION=132982]soso_killer[/MENTION] opinion on this. He always whine about Indian pitches. What happened today brother. Whether match continue tomorrow or not. Today what happened is disgraceful from South Africa

They laid 3 back to back substandard pitches :))

Makes the pitch curators of UAE and Dubai seem like geniuses
 
What a stupid argument. No match is greater than the safety of players. Match should be called of. Indians should show some sportsmanship and not be whiners ALL THE TIME.

The umpires are at fault too. They should have called off this match earlier.

To indian players, you have lost the series, at least win some respect by showing sportsmanship instead of being serial whiners.
 
SA can forfeit if they wish but why should the match he called off after our bats took blow from their bowlers? Did the umpires not think safety was if any importance then? That too they allowed short stuff at our tailenders. : facepalm:
 
What a stupid argument. No match is greater than the safety of players. Match should be called of. Indians should show some sportsmanship and not be whiners ALL THE TIME.

The umpires are at fault too. They should have called off this match earlier.

To indian players, you have lost the series, at least win some respect by showing sportsmanship instead of being serial whiners.

It's about the context CC.

I am sure this is hard stuff for you to understand but atleast try.
 
The only thing umpires will do by abandoning this match is rob the fans of a real test match.. These sort of test matches come once every few years.. From tomorrow we will go back to boring sub continent matches or crappy bully matches..
 
What a stupid argument. No match is greater than the safety of players. Match should be called of. Indians should show some sportsmanship and not be whiners ALL THE TIME.

The umpires are at fault too. They should have called off this match earlier.

To indian players, you have lost the series, at least win some respect by showing sportsmanship instead of being serial whiners.

Indians went ahead and were ready to play, umpires checked with Rahane when he was batting but India decided to carry on...if South Africa is not the they should concede plain and simple.
 
Indians went ahead and were ready to play, umpires checked with Rahane when he was batting but India decided to carry on...if South Africa is not the they should concede plain and simple.

Just because Indians were ok with a dangerous pitch means others should do the same?
 
I gave a conditional statement. Now upto SA to take action and let us know where they stand.

They could have said we will carry on but they didn't.

What's worse was that Bumrah's delivery landed short..not good length.

They begged for this exact pitch for years but walked out when they had the opportunity.

Nah, not this pitch. No one begged for this pitch.

Green pitch with lots of movement is one thing, but uneven bounce pitch with cracks is another. I am sure that SA is not going to call off this game. Walking away simply maximizes SA chance to win and I will see it as many team doing the same depending on situation when rain comes. Teams, who are behind, are quick to walk off with even slight hint of rain. I have seen Steve Smith almost running towards dug out to avoid being called back quickly when slight drizzle was present.
 
Just because Indians were ok with a dangerous pitch means others should do the same?

Indians didn’t think it is dangerous plain and simple....one team found absolutely no issues so if the other team doesn’t want to play whatever the reason may be the common term for that I believe is “abandonment” or “conceding”
 
Nah, not this pitch. No one begged for this pitch.

Green pitch with lots of movement is one thing, but uneven bounce pitch with cracks is another. I am sure that SA is not going to call off this game. Walking away simply maximizes SA chance to win and I will see it as many team doing the same depending on situation when rain comes. Teams, who are behind, are quick to walk off with even slight hint of rain. I have seen Steve Smith almost running towards dug out to avoid being called back quickly when slight drizzle was present.

Uneven bounce is always a danger when you try to go for extreme bowler friendly tracks.
 
I gave a conditional statement. Now upto SA to take action and let us know where they stand.

They could have said we will carry on but they didn't.

What's worse was that Bumrah's delivery landed short..not good length.

They begged for this exact pitch for years but walked out when they had the opportunity.

Faf will take EVERY opportunity to turn the game in his favour. That includes zippers :P Negating the last hour or so of play on day 3 would fall in that bracket.

I've never, even once, seen him display anything that would label him a coward. On the contrary, he has bigger balls than most. If you think he'll take the cowardly route, go ahead. I strongly disagree.

Labelling an entire nation and their sporting team cowards because the umpires made a decision seems unfair, wouldn't you agree?
 
Indians didn’t think it is dangerous plain and simple....one team found absolutely no issues so if the other team doesn’t want to play whatever the reason may be the common term for that I believe is “abandonment” or “conceding”

Are you saying the pitch is not dangerous and fit for a test match? Are you saying the blows were due to poor batting? Are you saying the umpires are mistaken in being concerned about players safety?
 
Faf will take EVERY opportunity to turn the game in his favour. That includes zippers :P Negating the last hour or so of play on day 3 would fall in that bracket.

I've never, even once, seen him display anything that would label him a coward. On the contrary, he has bigger balls than most. If you think he'll take the cowardly route, go ahead. I strongly disagree.

Labelling an entire nation and their sporting team cowards because the umpires made a decision seems unfair, wouldn't you agree?

Every team tries to maximize their chance to win matches. Not sure why posters are gunning for Faf here.
 
Faf will take EVERY opportunity to turn the game in his favour. That includes zippers :P Negating the last hour or so of play on day 3 would fall in that bracket.

I've never, even once, seen him display anything that would label him a coward. On the contrary, he has bigger balls than most. If you think he'll take the cowardly route, go ahead. I strongly disagree.

Labelling an entire nation and their sporting team cowards because the umpires made a decision seems unfair, wouldn't you agree?

It is the inferiority complex of the indian couch potato fans coming to the fore. Fore years they have had players who were scared of fast pitches. This is a time when their players have faced a touch pitch and in a position to win. So these fans dont want to let go of this opportunity to show their bravado and calling others cowards. :))
 
Funniest thing I find about this situation is that the TV guys showed a compilation of Elgar getting hit multiple times in the short time and all the hits came off short balls no ball he he got hit off rose from good length or was dangerous it was just bad batting, someone needs to show the umpires that clip.
 
It’s pathetic more than SA players why we umpires/match referee giving them the option? This pitch is lively not deadly there is a difference..

If this match gets abandoned I hope test cricket dies soon.. Such great battle and batsmen giving their 200% for every run they have to score and you abandon the match? Would be disgrace..
Stop wishing bad for test cricket. The rest of the world wants test cricket to continue, irrespective of what happens in an insignificant test match b/w India and SA when SA are already leading 2-0.
 
I am sure match will not called off but it is tactics to do not play today. Otherwise they have to start again tomorrow after easily losing 3 4 wickets
 
India toughed it out, took their hits and didn’t complain. Fair play to them. They really fought hard this match and I think their selections were a bit smarter.

SA can’t go running and whining about an up and down pitch now. They were quite happy to win the game on the last pitch like that in this very same series I recall.

The ball that hit Elgar was pitched in the “short” zone- he made a misjudgement as much as the ball deviated slightly from expectations.

I will be disgusted if this match is abandoned after 3 innings and SA blasting the Indian tail round the wicket moments before was all good.

Lol, India would be so livid they would burn all the grass off their pitches for the next 2 decades and use a metal rake instead of a roller in retaliation.
 
SA has produced many green pitch, but they were safe to play. Curator needs to be fired here.

True. It's a bad pitch we all agree.

But sometimes when you go for an extreme case, you gotta be prepared to face the consequences.

Even the commies were saying the Bumrah ball landed on good length. This isn't like those treacherous WI pitch which got called off. Indians just played 2 innings here.
 
Are you saying the pitch is not dangerous and fit for a test match? Are you saying the blows were due to poor batting? Are you saying the umpires are mistaken in being concerned about players safety?

Yes the pitch is substandard but not exactly unplayable. Tests have been completed on far worse pitches.

Yes the blows were due to poor batting, I guess watching the game helps rather than giving pointless opinions on things beyond your comprehension...there were no demons in atleast the deliveries where Elgar got hit...beauty of the internet plenty of illegal streams ..check it out if possible

Umpires gave the option based on the drama that ensued while one team didn’t take the option the other team grabberd to the first opportunity.
 
It is the inferiority complex of the indian couch potato fans coming to the fore. Fore years they have had players who were scared of fast pitches. This is a time when their players have faced a touch pitch and in a position to win. So these fans dont want to let go of this opportunity to show their bravado and calling others cowards. :))

Or maybe it is just expecting consistency from couch potatoes of other teams who called Indians names for not being brave but want match called off now that their beloved chokers are in the same spot.
 
What a stupid argument. No match is greater than the safety of players. Match should be called of. Indians should show some sportsmanship and not be whiners ALL THE TIME.

The umpires are at fault too. They should have called off this match earlier.

To indian players, you have lost the series, at least win some respect by showing sportsmanship instead of being serial whiners.

Agreed. Player life important. Sportsmanship spiirt must be shown. How about SA concede or accept defeat to ensure players safety. A home team is complainig about the track when they are starting to look at possible defeat. That's rich.

Cannot help but wonder what kind of volcano of comments would have erupted if India were the ones who complained in the same situation.
 
Surely the home board/team or whoever's responsible should be punished .
Being the superior side they could have easily beaten india on a normal fast wicket but they prepared this lottery of a track and now dont want to play on it apparently ..Lol

Calm dowm angry little guy .
Where did i talk about Indian tracks ??
You guys do talk about indian tracks and home tracks. That tracks has to be lottery as well then. So being on superior side then could have easily beat ??? Who told you superior ? Last series we won by 3-0 and this test series is also closed one. So chotte that's what i only meant
 
It is the inferiority complex of the indian couch potato fans coming to the fore. Fore years they have had players who were scared of fast pitches. This is a time when their players have faced a touch pitch and in a position to win. So these fans dont want to let go of this opportunity to show their bravado and calling others cowards. :))

Lol says the guy who is pulling out things from
< use your imagination carefully> Without even watching the match.

You try too hard it’s not working :))
 
Rahane had this to say,

"New ball is challenging but you cannot call it dangerous, When Amla got 60, no one talked about the pitch. Everybody talked about how he played. I hope Elgar is fine, but I don't think pitch is too dangerous. I don't know what the ICC is going to do, but as a team our focus is to get on with the game."
 
Are you saying the pitch is not dangerous and fit for a test match? Are you saying the blows were due to poor batting? Are you saying the umpires are mistaken in being concerned about players safety?

are you saying 3 innings could be played on this "dangerous" pitch but not the fourth?

and if SA knew it's dangerous then why did they bowl bouncers from around the wickets to tailenders? if they knowingly did that that it's even bigger sin than being a coward. don't you think?
 
Agreed. Player life important. Sportsmanship spiirt must be shown. How about SA concede or accept defeat to ensure players safety. A home team is complainig about the track when they are starting to look at possible defeat. That's rich.

Cannot help but wonder what kind of volcano of comments would have erupted if India were the ones who complained in the same situation.

Excellent logic.

Let's see if CC tries to understand this.

There's a lot more backstory as to what happened in the last 2 years but let's not bother him with all that.
 
Stop wishing bad for test cricket. The rest of the world wants test cricket to continue, irrespective of what happens in an insignificant test match b/w India and SA when SA are already leading 2-0.



These are the matches which will increase test cricket viewership.. And the rest of the world wants test to continue but still the viewership is going down.. Anyways point is not about test cricket future point is such pitches are needed for compelling test cricket where every run scored is a fight..
 
Stop wishing bad for test cricket. The rest of the world wants test cricket to continue, irrespective of what happens in an insignificant test match b/w India and SA when SA are already leading 2-0.

I agree that we all want Test cricket to continue. So no way it should die.

However, this may be insignificant Test match for you, but not for two of the world's most prominent Test teams who are giving it their all on a pitch that has challenged batting techniques to the extreme, and one that is being followed by a lot of folks not Indian or South African. It is also relevant because it's raising a fair few questions on cricketing norms.
 
True. It's a bad pitch we all agree.

But sometimes when you go for an extreme case, you gotta be prepared to face the consequences.

Even the commies were saying the Bumrah ball landed on good length. This isn't like those treacherous WI pitch which got called off. Indians just played 2 innings here.

I am not saying that SA should refuse to play. If they do that I will be furious as well. I don't think that pitch is so bad right now. Morkel was bowling round the wicket to Indian tails just few overs ago. It didn't look dangerous.

Having said that I won't criticize Faf for walking off when umpire presented an opportunity. SA will have a better chance to win with only one wicket down and starting fresh.
 
SA manager Moosajee in the PC,

"I'm not sure you are watching the game. The ball that hit Elgar spat from a good length. Nobody has made a direct statement to the direct condition of the pitch. The minute it goes to the head , that's why the umpires decided to consult with the referee. I don't think short pitched bowling affected Shami (references to bowling round the wicket to him). There was no deliberate intention to hurt anyone"

That was NOT good length as we all say in the replay.
 
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It’s pathetic more than SA players why we umpires/match referee giving them the option? This pitch is lively not deadly there is a difference..

If this match gets abandoned I hope test cricket dies soon.. Such great battle and batsmen giving their 200% for every run they have to score and you abandon the match? Would be disgrace..

Blame the umpires but I don't understand why some people think the South Africans refused to play. You understand that if the South Africans refuse to play, they will forfeit the game, right OP?
 
I am not saying that SA should refuse to play. If they do that I will be furious as well. I don't think that pitch is so bad right now. Morkel was bowling round the wicket to Indian tails just few overs ago. It didn't look dangerous.

Having said that I won't criticize Faf for walking off when umpire presented an opportunity. SA will have a better chance to win with only one wicket down and starting fresh.

I understand where you coming from.

Actually I called out the SA players as a whole.

But now that I think about it, considering Faf was so vehement about getting pitches with pace and bounce and with SA pacers trying to bounce out our tailenders, he should have stayed on and ensured play was continued.

This reflects poorly on him.

When Indians got hit, Faf didn't offer to walk out. Indians didn't walk out.
 
Blame the umpires but I don't understand why some people think the South Africans refused to play. You understand that if the South Africans refuse to play, they will forfeit the game, right OP?

SA players are well within their rights they have won 2-0 they are favourites to lose this match if it continues.. So they are well within heir rights if given an option to not play.. We have seen it plenty of times previously when rain come or light is slightly bad teams in a losing position prefer to go off the field.. SAME here so It’s fine..

Problem is why the umpires/referee deciding it as a dangerous pitch when the ball elgar faced was short of the length and not good length.. It’s a a lively pitch which requires grit and technique to make runs not a deadly pitch like Sabrina park.
 
These are the matches which will increase test cricket viewership.. And the rest of the world wants test to continue but still the viewership is going down.. Anyways point is not about test cricket future point is such pitches are needed for compelling test cricket where every run scored is a fight..

Such pitch is not needed at all. Swing,seam turners, bouncy pitches (regular bounce) once in a while are all good. This pitch is dangerous, it was dangerous for Indians too.

Having said that the delivery which forced them to leave the ground wasnt anything out of the ordinary. Its unfair to leave on the basis of that.
 
I understand where you coming from.

Actually I called out the SA players as a whole.

But now that I think about it, considering Faf was so vehement about getting pitches with pace and bounce and with SA pacers trying to bounce out our tailenders, he should have stayed on and ensured play was continued.

This reflects poorly on him.

When Indians got hit, Faf didn't offer to walk out. Indians didn't walk out.

Faf was happy to bowl bouncers at Indian tailenders.
 
I agree that we all want Test cricket to continue. So no way it should die.

However, this may be insignificant Test match for you, but not for two of the world's most prominent Test teams who are giving it their all on a pitch that has challenged batting techniques to the extreme, and one that is being followed by a lot of folks not Indian or South African. It is also relevant because it's raising a fair few questions on cricketing norms.

It is insignificant in terms of the overall series. Nothing you say will change that and thats what i meant when i used the word insignificant.
 
Such pitch is not needed at all. Swing,seam turners, bouncy pitches (regular bounce) once in a while are all good. This pitch is dangerous, it was dangerous for Indians too.

Having said that the delivery which forced them to leave the ground wasnt anything out of the ordinary. Its unfair to leave on the basis of that.


And this pitch offers everything, scoring runs here is a mammoth task and kudos to players who performed here.. The pitch made an exciting match and showed viewers how gritty batsmen are.. Was a wonderful spectacle going on between bat and ball, grit vs skill, patience vs luck ..
 
Faf will take EVERY opportunity to turn the game in his favour. That includes zippers :P Negating the last hour or so of play on day 3 would fall in that bracket.

I've never, even once, seen him display anything that would label him a coward. On the contrary, he has bigger balls than most. If you think he'll take the cowardly route, go ahead. I strongly disagree.

Labelling an entire nation and their sporting team cowards because the umpires made a decision seems unfair, wouldn't you agree?

I didn't call out SA fans. Or the nation.

This wasn't directed at Faf alone. Directed at whole team.

It's not like umpires dragged out players. When Indians were on top and SA had a chance to walk out, they did. Sure, we can talk technicalities about intentions but let me ask you: If SA were 50/0 in 10 overs, would they have walked out?

Faf is a gutsy player sure. But this is a cowardly move.
 
are you saying 3 innings could be played on this "dangerous" pitch but not the fourth?

and if SA knew it's dangerous then why did they bowl bouncers from around the wickets to tailenders? if they knowingly did that that it's even bigger sin than being a coward. don't you think?

In my first post in this thread I called out the fault of the umpires. They should have called off the match earlier and not waited for the fourth innings.
 
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I understand where you coming from.

Actually I called out the SA players as a whole.

But now that I think about it, considering Faf was so vehement about getting pitches with pace and bounce and with SA pacers trying to bounce out our tailenders, he should have stayed on and ensured play was continued.

This reflects poorly on him.

When Indians got hit, Faf didn't offer to walk out. Indians didn't walk out.

Faf taking an offer to walk today increased our chances of win. Just because he asked for bouncy and green pitch, he doesn't have to make irrational decisions.

Faf didn't offer to walk earlier and he didn't offer to walk now. He simply took an offer made by umpires. I am sure that he would not have walked if SA was 10 runs away from a win. It's simply about making a good decisions to maximize your chance to win.
 
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Time for BCCI to arm-twist them overnight, and perhaps remind a few of them the money end of the tour is coming, as well as the IPL auctions tomorrow.

And it will be justified because on merits an abandonment would be absurd. The ball was a short ball hitting the helmet which is bog standard.
 
Agreed. Player life important. Sportsmanship spiirt must be shown. How about SA concede or accept defeat to ensure players safety. A home team is complainig about the track when they are starting to look at possible defeat. That's rich.

Cannot help but wonder what kind of volcano of comments would have erupted if India were the ones who complained in the same situation.

It is not the law that the match will be awarded to the opposition if the umpires decide the pitch is too dangerous to be played.

But sure, SA can do this as a goodwill gesture so that indian fans, who have the reputation of being SERIAL WHINERS, will be pacified.

Anything that saves players lives being risked for the entertainment of some challenged fans.
 
Time for BCCI to arm-twist them overnight, and perhaps remind a few of them the money end of the tour is coming, as well as the IPL auctions tomorrow.

And it will be justified because on merits an abandonment would be absurd. The ball was a short ball hitting the helmet which is bog standard.

Naah. Let the world see what is happening.
 
India would have got 2 more wickets today had they not stopped the play. That's pretty unfair. I still think they did all this to keep their wickets in hand for tomorrow.
 
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