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Sri Lanka [175/5] beat India [174/5] by 5 wickets in first match of Nidahas Twenty20 tri-series

Kohli said:
I am not watching the match.

But what's happening?

Have SL improved, or is it just that the boundaries are too small?
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Poor bowling. Trundlers and off spinners on a small ground is pure cannon fodder.
 
babajee said:
Dhawan got you to a respectable total in this match.
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Our batting after Top 3 is bad. Raina failed today, but he will come good eventually. He is a match winner. I would say India is Top 4.

Now we have some youngsters and hoping that they will come good. We have to be patient.
 
Kohli said:
Which factory is producing these trundlers?

Sran, Unadkat, Thakur and now this Shankar
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Shankar is a proper batsman who is no more than a part timer with the ball. Can't believe India went with just 4 bowlers.
 
troodon said:
Our batting after Top 3 is bad. Raina failed today, but he will come good eventually. He is a match winner. I would say India is Top 4.

Now we have some youngsters and hoping that they will come good. We have to be patient.
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Every team is dependent on players. But the way some people talk it is as though any random Indian batsman from domestic cricket is world class. :))
 
babajee said:
Every team is dependent on players. But the way some people talk it is as though any random Indian batsman from domestic cricket is world class. :))
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Nobody ever said some random domestic Indian batsman is better than Pak main batsmen.

We only compare players who are play in the main team. Its a no contest there when comparing the main teams.
 
troodon said:
After 1 inning you are saying this? If he connected those slogs, these same fans would be singing his praise.

Good that you are not a selector. Otherwise, the likes of MSD and Sehwag would never have seen the day light.

If Pant had played innings like this after 15-20 internations, I would be the first one to criticize and drop him. Not after 2 or 3 innings.

Kohli is one of a kind. Can't compare anyone with him.

Did you like the 35 ball 35 run inning from the technically correct Pandey today? No criticism for him I see.
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It seems you have never seen the first couple of matches of both Sehwag and Dhoni. They were not trying to blind slog in first couple of innings. It's going above your head. Nobody is complaining of him not hitting sixes on every ball. But the way he was playing and trying to hit every ball out of the stadium won't work for long in international cricket.

Pandey was not hyped up to be the next big thing to replace Dhoni and he has already shown what he is capable of in limited chances he got in Aus and South Africa.

Just like Kohli, Sehwag was also one of a kind. If staying on the crease and timing the ball elegantly worked for him then it doesn't mean that it will work for blind sloggers too.
 
King Kong said:
Shankar is a proper batsman who is no more than a part timer with the ball. Can't believe India went with just 4 bowlers.
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Next match, India should promote young guys up the order. If they do not get opportunities to bat, it will be hard to know who is ready for the next level.
 
troodon said:
Nobody ever said some random domestic Indian batsman is better than Pak main batsmen.

We only compare players who are play in the main team. Its a no contest there when comparing the main teams.
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You can ask [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] about that.
 
Sri Lanka played very competitively when they toured India few months ago. I won't be surprised if they win this tournament.
 
babajee said:
I thought India was bursting with express 145k bowlers in domestics??
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You are right. Some of them are bursting like water balloons that is why we have Jaydev Unadkat, Sran, etc. And those who are good are preparing themselves for IPL. :inti
 
Wow that bowling attack of India is one of the worst I have ever seen in any form of cricket. Why is Shami not playing? The guy hardly plays for someone who is hyped up so much.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It seems you have never seen the first couple of matches of both Sehwag and Dhoni. They were not trying to blind slog in first couple of innings. It's going above your head. Nobody is complaining of him not hitting sixes on every ball. But the way he was playing and trying to hit every ball out of the stadium won't work for long in international cricket.

Pandey was not hyped up to be the next big thing to replace Dhoni and he has already shown what he is capable of in limited chances he got in Aus and South Africa.

Just like Kohli, Sehwag was also one of a kind. If staying on the crease and timing the ball elegantly worked for him then it doesn't mean that it will work for blind sloggers too.
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So you want him to take singles in 16th over of a T20?

Pant is not playing an ODI or Test match. It is going above your head sir. Not mine.

I am not saying Pant played a good knock. It was pathetic. But labeling him as a hack or failure after jusr a couple of knocks is not fair.

Pandey after his century in Aus, has not done anything. His innings were painfully slow and today he did the same. 35(35) in a T20 when the other guy is going at 200 S/R with no pressure is abysmal batting.

Pant is young and obviously under pressure. If he continues to fail in the next 3 or 4 and plays the same way, then by all means drop him. But putting a hack and failure stamp on his head after just 2 knocks is foolish.
 
END OF OVER:16 | 3 Runs | SL: 140/5 (35 runs required from 24 balls, RR: 8.75, RRR: 8.75)

SL needs a few boundaries. It almost feels like they have given up.
 
Hilarious if Lanka messes up from here.

Easy as it gets against a B/C-Grade attack.
 
Where are those 140plus kph bowlers.According to some indian poster there is at least 2 bowlers in each indian fc team who can bowl above 140kph.Indian selectors should be ashamed of ignoring such talent.
 
DRsohail said:
Where are those 140plus kph bowlers.According to some indian poster there is at least 2 bowlers in each indian fc team who can bowl above 140kph.Indian selectors should be ashamed of ignoring such talent.
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Indian selectors are regionally biased i think.
 
Rishab pant played a match losing knock. India could have won it.
 
India lacks pace bowling bench strength big time. They could have played Yadav, he hasnt been playing a lot regularly and is not injury prone as well. Its not like he is something extraordinary but surely better than the pacers playing today
 
Can someone pray tell whats so special about unadkat? Why did he get so much money in IPL auctions?
 
Shankar bowls mid 120s, Unadkat bowls early 130s and Thakur seems unfit and overweight
 
Oligochaetes said:
It's ok...better to lose these small games here n there in the process of trying out new talent
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Even if Pant has scored 30 of 18 balls, India would have still lost this.

The match was lost in the first 7 overs when Lanka were going at 14 an over.

This is a thorough dominance and time for India to seek new talent. Unadkat, Thakur are not the guys who you can trust in the absence of Bumrah/BK and Shami.

Anyway, these guys failing means the induction of real fast men like Nagarkoti and Mavi in the senior team will be accelerated.
 
Madplayer said:
Can someone pray tell whats so special about unadkat? Why did he get so much money in IPL auctions?
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He was in the draft at the exact time when many ipl teams happened to require an Indian pace bowler. Right place at the right time!
 
Without Bumrah bhuvi kohli Kuldeep(boundary size matters) and dhavan India are just minnows
 
wow.. didn't see the match today, but good that India got a good kick on their back.. Horrible backup players they have chosen. I am hoping for the same against BD. We need to have Pandey, Thakur and Unadkat out of the squad for better performance.. Whatever India does, their LOI team looks very ordinary although they continue to do well in ODI

by the way very low build up for this tournament. I did not even know that the tournament is starting from today. What does SL want to achieve with such a low profile tournament? They should have rescheduled this tournament to after IPL or invite other teams. India was never going to send full strength team just before the IPL
 
troodon said:
Even if Pant has scored 30 of 18 balls, India would have still lost this.

The match was lost in the first 7 overs when Lanka were going at 14 an over.

This is a thorough dominance and time for India to seek new talent. Unadkat, Thakur are not the guys who you can trust in the absence of Bumrah/BK and Shami.

Anyway, these guys failing means the induction of real fast men like Nagarkoti and Mavi in the senior team will be accelerated.
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You give enough chances to people performing in the domestic to separate the wheat from chaff.

Indian management is looking for new talent. Let's them try their permutations and combinations to find that one gem. In the process of they lose a few games in this meaningless tournament, it will be worth it.
 
Congrats to Lanka, well done hopefully the management gives middle order more chances.
 
If you compare the match with the PSL match today.

Hasan Ali 3-0-33-0
Unadkut 3-0-35-1

:D
 
Oligochaetes said:
You give enough chances to people performing in the domestic to separate the wheat from chaff.

Indian management is looking for new talent. Let's them try their permutations and combinations to find that one gem. In the process of they lose a few games in this meaningless tournament, it will be worth it.
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The need for India right now is not bowlers. Its the Middle and Lower Order batsmen.

I am all for promoting Shankar, Sundar and even playing Hooda over the likes of Karthik. Its sad that Samson/Kishan could not make it to the squad. Losing this no name tournament should be the least of concern for India.

India needs someone to score 30(20) ball type innings coming in at No.5 or No.6 for 2019 WC.

Agreed that India hopefully find that one Gem. Still don't understand why Karthik is playing. Even if he scores here, he will fail on the main occasion.
 
Josh said:
If you compare the match with the PSL match today.

Hasan Ali 3-0-33-0
Unadkut 3-0-35-1

:D
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Hasan Ali has proven before that he is a super bowler.

Unadkat is a nobody.

Its funny if we just look at the stats though.
 
troodon said:
Hasan Ali has proven before that he is a super bowler.

Unadkat is a nobody.

Its funny if we just look at the stats though.
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Yeah mate, stats are funny sometimes. Anyway it was just a joke. I rate Hasan quite higher whereas UnadCut is nobody.
 
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troodon said:
The need for India right now is not bowlers. Its the Middle and Lower Order batsmen.

I am all for promoting Shankar, Sundar and even playing Hooda over the likes of Karthik. Its sad that Samson/Kishan could not make it to the squad. Losing this no name tournament should be the least of concern for India.

India needs someone to score 30(20) ball type innings coming in at No.5 or No.6 for 2019 WC.

Agreed that India hopefully find that one Gem. Still don't understand why Karthik is playing. Even if he scores here, he will fail on the main occasion.
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Bumrah Bhuv Pandya chahal n kuldeep r set bowlers with Shami Jadeja ashwin in the wings..yea no problem

Top 3 batters are settled with MSD n Pandya too..
Rains looks certain... yes..so find some middle order batters
 
troodon said:
Our bowling bench strength is terrible.

BK/Bumrah/Shami/Kuldeep/Chahal are class. After that the drop is pretty steep. Thakur's and Unadkat's are below average.
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Every team has 5 to 6 top international bowlers ... Second tier players need more time and exposure to become effective.

India win or lose this series doesn't matter, as long as few more non-regulars get practice at International level .

Also help our friendly board SLC financially (IIRC only SLC supported BCCI in ICC voting stand-off) :srini
 
Smbhayi said:
that's the biggest mystery.
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Last year it was Tymal Mills who was bought for 1.2 Millions Dollars I think. Flopped.

The year before that, it was Yuvraj. Flopped. Had the 2009-2011 UV got that money, it would have been totally worth.

Every year someone gets lucky. Unadkat has improved slightly with his variations. But he is still an average bowler.

Scouts are fools to dish out so much money for these average players.
 
troodon said:
The need for India right now is not bowlers. Its the Middle and Lower Order batsmen.

I am all for promoting Shankar, Sundar and even playing Hooda over the likes of Karthik. Its sad that Samson/Kishan could not make it to the squad. Losing this no name tournament should be the least of concern for India.

India needs someone to score 30(20) ball type innings coming in at No.5 or No.6 for 2019 WC.

Agreed that India hopefully find that one Gem. Still don't understand why Karthik is playing. Even if he scores here, he will fail on the main occasion.
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the main problem with Karthik is he's 30+.
 
Oligochaetes said:
Pant failed today...but give him another go.
Pandey did well I guess
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Pandey played a pathetic knock. 100 S/R is not acceptable for someone who played 36 balls. He struggled just like he did in SA and the many chances he got before that.

I feel Pandey is a mental midget. He freezes at international level. He is talented. But cannot play at the same level against the same bowlers like he does in IPL.
 
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