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Steve Smith phenomena - Who will be able to stop him?

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Oppositions are clueless on how bowl or set a field to him.

Question is: will he ever fail? Who will be able to stop Smith?
 
Nobody will stop him.

Only biology(non renewable superhuman reflexes) can stop his dominance.
 
Bowlers and captains who can match his mental edge. If he ever figures out a method to counter seam movement, there will be no stopping him.
 
Whattay player. :bow:

He GRINDS it out when it's tough and PILES it on when it's easy.

Never seen a more effective bat in my lifetime.

I hope he goes on to become the GOAT.

Long way to go. More sample set, has to play swing better, become more complete, last longer. Longevity may be a challenge for him.

lol at Pakistan will stop him.

Averaged 100+ against them in Aus. Averaged 43 in UAE.

He did well against SA in SA last time. Averaged 42 in Aus against SA last series.
 
And it's not just about the average either. He scores runs when his team needs it the most. Take 1st game of this Ashes for example.

The whole Indian series was nothing less than a war; with those provocative comments from both side. Yet he stood up and crushed the opposition bowlers, almost leading the side to victory where they were expected to loose 4-0.

He is not only consistent, but ridiculously clutch as well. Never seen the combination of two virtue.
 
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Many including myself have doubts that his performance will rapidly deteriorate when his hand eye go downhill like Ponting.

But his entire game is built on exemplary footwork, both against pace and spin. He is more of a technical player than someone who only relies on reflex.
 
The cricketer looking the closest to invincible since Hussey in his first couple of years in ODI/Test days. And Smith is past his best days.
 
Chrish said:
Many including myself have doubts that his performance will rapidly deteriorate when his hand eye go downhill like Ponting.

But his entire game is built on exemplary footwork, both against pace and spin. He is more of a technical player than someone who only relies on reflex.
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His footwork works for him due to his extraordinary ability to connect from those positions. I have tried his method multiple times and you get out as soon as you miss a connection. I actually believe that his ability to play spin will not be impacted as much.
 
Brilliant player and the most impressive thing about him is his mental toughness.

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Going through that Ponting-like purple patch 2002 - 2007.

It'll end sometime. He wasn't too flash until 2013 was he?
 
Varun said:
Going through that Ponting-like purple patch 2002 - 2007.

It'll end sometime. He wasn't too flash until 2013 was he?
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I'm shocked that a young inexperienced player wasn't too flash before he sorted out his issues.
 
Convict said:
I'm shocked that a young inexperienced player wasn't too flash before he sorted out his issues.
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Let's be real - he was no better than Jadeja starting out. Relatively toothless with both bat and ball.

Recall that he was selected in the 2010/11 Ashes to 'inject a bit of fun' in the dressing room.
 
He is at his peak at the moment and this will probably last for another 2-3 years. After that he will still be a very good player and an easy pick (as captain or not) but will probably not be quite as imperious and immovable.
 
He will be thoroughly tested by SA.

Incredible player who has separated himself from the rest of the pack in a big way but in the middle of his incredible Ashes campaign, there's one session that stuck out like a sore thumb, and that was the Evening session in the 2nd innings at Adelaide, where Anderson was all over him under lights and Smith looked utterly clueless.. it turned out to be his only single digit score in the series. Granted Anderson is one of the best swing bowlers of all time but if a 35 year old bowling in the range of 130-135 can get you in such a bind in average testing conditions then I guess facing 4 fast bowlers bowling 140+ on much more difficult tracks would be a difficult proposition for him indeed.

If he comes out of the SA series maintaining the standards that he has set thus far, I think he would have made a big stride towards legendary status.
 
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Varun said:
Let's be real - he was no better than Jadeja starting out. Relatively toothless with both bat and ball.

Recall that he was selected in the 2010/11 Ashes to 'inject a bit of fun' in the dressing room.
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Yes. Talented player with serious issues that he fixed after he was dropped.
 
Smith is facing better bowling than Ponting did at his peak years. India, England, SA and NZ all these teams have much better attacks today.
 
Unlike ponting smith dominated india in india against no 1 and no 2 bowlers in the world
 
Time!

He really is making the coaching manuals look useless which is actually a good thing in some ways. These coaches need to understand that once you get basics of batting or bowling, your technique should be whatever that works for you. The fact that he's doing it in Test cricket throwing mud at every guy who says "you need proper technique to bat in Test cricket" makes me very happy. Yes you need a proper, consistent technique. But it shouldn't have a definition. It's whatever that works for you.

During my early teens I had a stupid coach who didn't even let me hold the bat the way I wanted. He asked me to put the bat down on the pitch parallel to my body and then get my hands around it and pick it up so that the bat faces mid on! His oldschool style. I could never follow this as I was so used to the bat facing the midwicket region.
 
Lara had pretty unorthodox technique too..

Coaching manual theory has been dumped for a while.
 
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Lara had pretty unorthodox technique too..

Coaching manual theory has been dumped for a while.
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Once you get a lot success with your unorthodox technique nobody will utter a word. At the lower levels it's still a problem. You wont be the coach's favourite if you have an unorthodox technique :)
 
Mr.Q said:
Time!

He really is making the coaching manuals look useless which is actually a good thing in some ways. These coaches need to understand that once you get basics of batting or bowling, your technique should be whatever that works for you. The fact that he's doing it in Test cricket throwing mud at every guy who says "you need proper technique to bat in Test cricket" makes me very happy. Yes you need a proper, consistent technique. But it shouldn't have a definition. It's whatever that works for you.

During my early teens I had a stupid coach who didn't even let me hold the bat the way I wanted. He asked me to put the bat down on the pitch parallel to my body and then get my hands around it and pick it up so that the bat faces mid on! His oldschool style. I could never follow this as I was so used to the bat facing the midwicket region.
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It's all self belief. No coach will train a youngster to approach batting like Sehwag, he is someone who will look for an opportunity to hit boundaries even when we have no other option apart from drawing a test match.
 
Matlab kuch bhi said:
It's all self belief. No coach will train a youngster to approach batting like Sehwag, he is someone who will look for an opportunity to hit boundaries even when we have no other option apart from drawing a test match.
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Yeah. But that freedom is often not given to the youngsters. Sehwag himself had issues with his coaches even at the international level.
Anyways let's not divert from the topic, which is Steve Smith's unstoppable run :).
 
Australia missing Smith and even Warner probably more than ever..
 
Will he continue from where he left or we will see a dip in his batting.
 
After 1 year ban from international cricket no batsman will be same. He will be good but that's it i guess won't be unstoppable like past. Cricket Australia destroyed their own cricket and i can see them going west indies way.
 
Sam99 said:
After 1 year ban from international cricket no batsman will be same. He will be good but that's it i guess won't be unstoppable like past. Cricket Australia destroyed their own cricket and i can see them going west indies way.
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Are you sure? He is playing at the highest level and most of the leagues.
 
I think he will still be playing at root, kane level.
Might not be averaging 60-70 like him and kohli in last 2-3 years.
 
When he is back he will be back to his normal self. He knows what a horrible mistake he made. And he will be motivated to perform his country even more as he embrassed them and for 1 year that honour was taken away from.

As I have said many times the ban was over the top and now Australia are being humiliated on the pitch. ICC only banned him for 1 game so why ban him for 1 year ? Missing out on the IPL and stripping him of the captaincy was enough punishment.
 
Who knew, it was sandpaper all along. How many more talented batsmen will this beast stop?
 
It is sad that he missed a year of top shelf cricket in his prime. However he is still just at the age where batsmen traditionally peak and I fully expect him to find his ATG level (75+ avg) form by the next Aus home summer.
If pitches in Eng next summer are like they were this year, I expect him to have a modest outing (1 century and 300-350 runs series) given his historic weakness against swing and that he's working his way back to intl level
 
I miss him

I really did enjoy his unconventional betting style and how he was always so positive
 
DeadBall said:
Doesn't really matter. All I remember is :smith turning into :ssmith.
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You remember that quote after Tyson won the heavyweight title?

"The only person that seems to be able to defeat Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson".

Can't help but think of the stress Smith went through following that fall from grace.
 
Smith is a gun in Test cricket even though he is still banned his average is 61.61 he is better than Kohli in Test cricket and better thant Tendulkar as well.
 
Can't wait for Smithy to return. I always respect people who come back from ordeals. He will come back stronger and more hungry along with Warner
 
Mamba Red said:
Smith is a gun in Test cricket even though he is still banned his average is 61.61 he is better than Kohli in Test cricket and better thant Tendulkar as well.
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Hi genuis...Banning a player won't effrct his average...It will remain the same till he plays next...
 
The best batsmen that the game ha produced.

WHat a fight this guy has given. He was the last barrier for WEst Indies and this guy has kept on fighting.
 
If this guy was in the Pakistani system he would have never played a game after 2010. Amazing turn around to go from a leggie who can bat a bit to one of the greatest batsman the game has ever seen.
 
His stats are nowehere close to Virat's but he scores when it counts. He did in the last WC and looks like he will repeat it again

Incredible performance today
 
Such an important performance. His patience is immaculate. It was going to taken something special to dismiss him and cottrell provided a moment of brilliance.
 
Smith is not the type to be stopped exactly as he can not take the game away from the opposition and does not score as consistently in ODIs as Kohli, Root and Babar BUT he can push the ball around while others strike around him.

Coulter Nile and Carey were far more important today and stopped Australia's rr from dropping below 5.
 
He knows the ugly way of surviving and scoring runs. Best way to stop him is by forcing him to take chance. ONly way you can do is by stopping runs from the other end. Also he is slightly vulnerable against spin at times. Having said that he is not exactly a threat in one dayers if you look at his stats. He just does well in the world cup matches.
 
I don't rate him as among the best in ODIs but his clutchness has to be respected, probably no other batsman in history surpasses him in this department.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He knows the ugly way of surviving and scoring runs. Best way to stop him is by forcing him to take chance. ONly way you can do is by stopping runs from the other end. Also he is slightly vulnerable against spin at times. Having said that he is not exactly a threat in one dayers if you look at his stats. He just does well in the world cup matches.
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Any team would love to have that player.
 
Swashbuckler said:
I don't rate him as among the best in ODIs but his clutchness has to be respected, probably no other batsman in history surpasses him in this department.
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Part of it has to do with him being the only batsman to score runs for his team. Bit like Tendesochote for Scotland, Tikolo for kenya. He took the onus and played responsible cricket. He developed himself into a dependable batsman even with a "don't try this at home" technique. He is not going to blaze away like Ponting or Tendulkar or even Kohli at his best. He will be a steady accumulator and letting others smash the ball around him.

His fastest innings when he crosses 50 is 51 in 29 balls strike rate 175
second fastest 73 in 55 balls strike rate 132

Most of the others are barely above 100 or below 100. He is not an out and out stroke player like Kohli or ABDV who can dominate bowling like nobody's business. He is an accumulator with the ability to attack when needed. Bit like Babar plus ability to attack on demand.
 
He will go down as one of the best batsmen of all time. Better odi batsman than the Root/Williamson/Smith trio and the best test batsman in the world
 
His temperament is unbelievable. Another clutch knock in a ICC tournament. A dominating ashes series and Smith is inches away from being Australia's greatest batter after Ponting.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
His fastest innings when he crosses 50 is 51 in 29 balls strike rate 175
second fastest 73 in 55 balls strike rate 132

Most of the others are barely above 100 or below 100. He is not an out and out stroke player like Kohli or ABDV who can dominate bowling like nobody's business. He is an accumulator with the ability to attack when needed. Bit like Babar plus ability to attack on demand.
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As if Kohli and ABDV are in the same category in the "dominate the bowling" department.
 
He shuffles a bit when you deliver a bowl. So, hard in swinging yorker at leg stump, that's what i would told the quickest bowler, after the bounced him twice aiming at his head.

Another thing that can work, don't give him easy singles. Bowl a tight line and eventually, he will give his wicket away. Kind of feels like it can affect his stroke play as he may play for long ball
 
adil79 said:
He shuffles a bit when you deliver a bowl. So, hard in swinging yorker at leg stump, that's what i would told the quickest bowler, after the bounced him twice aiming at his head.

Another thing that can work, don't give him easy singles. Bowl a tight line and eventually, he will give his wicket away. Kind of feels like it can affect his stroke play as he may play for long ball
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International bowlers have been trying and failing at that but here comes Mr. Adil79 with the secrets
 
Mobashir said:
As if Kohli and ABDV are in the same category in the "dominate the bowling" department.
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Probably not at the crazy level. But still better than SMith in that regard. He averages 41 in this era. For a great dominating batsman that is very poor regardless of what he does in the world cup. Inzamam baring 2 cameos at the world cup has dreadful record. Won't make him a poor batsman.
 
adil79 said:
He shuffles a bit when you deliver a bowl. So, hard in swinging yorker at leg stump, that's what i would told the quickest bowler, after the bounced him twice aiming at his head.

Another thing that can work, don't give him easy singles. Bowl a tight line and eventually, he will give his wicket away. Kind of feels like it can affect his stroke play as he may play for long ball
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His hand eye coordination works for him so far. It will be interesting when it declines.
 
adil79 said:
He shuffles a bit when you deliver a bowl. So, hard in swinging yorker at leg stump, that's what i would told the quickest bowler, after the bounced him twice aiming at his head.

Another thing that can work, don't give him easy singles. Bowl a tight line and eventually, he will give his wicket away. Kind of feels like it can affect his stroke play as he may play for long ball
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Lol that's where he wants you to bowl.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Probably not at the crazy level. But still better than SMith in that regard. He averages 41 in this era. For a great dominating batsman that is very poor regardless of what he does in the world cup. Inzamam baring 2 cameos at the world cup has dreadful record. Won't make him a poor batsman.
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Did I say Smith is a better ODI bat than Kohli?
Even if Kohli misses out in the whole world cup, I will not say he is a poor batsman.
Stop awnsering to things that I have not said.

There are 3/4 levels of difference between ABDV and Kohli while dominating an attack, completely different leagues. Kohli himself fails to accelerate at times. In that regard he is even no Morgan, Bairstow etc.
 
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