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Strait of Hormuz 'closed' again, Iranian state media says [Update@ Post 9075]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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daytrader said:
Right. One is from Qatar and the other from USA. Iran is bombing USA bases in Qatar so have you considered that I dunno maybe that they're a little biased
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Today's Al Jazeera carries an Op-Ed by Ismail Baghaei - spokesperson for the Iranian foreign ministry criticising the US and Israeli war on Iran. I think Iran doesn't believe it's as biased as you do.

They have been extremely critical of Israel through the war and in fact through the entire Gaza invasion. While I'm not going to say they're perfect (no one is), I'm comfortable trusting that they're not deliberately hiding damage to Israel.
 
daytrader said:
You're mostly posting about one side. If you want us to take you seriously post about the other side too
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If you read the whole thread, you'll get you answer. . I'm posting news from both sides.

Ab koi news or attacks hoga nahi Israel pe to kha se karunga post. .

Most of the attacks happened on Iran so you may see majority post of Iran destruction.

:kp
 
Red-Indian said:
Today's Al Jazeera carries an Op-Ed by Ismail Baghaei - spokesperson for the Iranian foreign ministry criticising the US and Israeli war on Iran. I think Iran doesn't believe it's as biased as you do.

They have been extremely critical of Israel through the war and in fact through the entire Gaza invasion. While I'm not going to say they're perfect (no one is), I'm comfortable trusting that they're not deliberately hiding damage to Israel.
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There is blanket press sensorship in Israel...
 
daytrader said:
So how do you confirm the news from Israel side if there's a media ban? They're obviously not admitting to their losses
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According to @Devadwal there hasn’t been a single attack on Israel, but Israel and the U.S. are pounding Iran

Anything that does not fit his narrative immediately becomes “AI generated”, “fake news”, or a “lie”. That seems to be the standard response whenever appears that contradicts the version he wants people to believe.

People on this forum already know his track record. He has repeatedly taken an openly anti-Muslim stance and appears to spend most of his time pushing the same anti-Muslim propaganda

It makes you wonder whether users like this are just ordinary users or people pushing an agenda. The way he constantly defends one side while attacking Muslims in every discussion gives the impression that he is doing paid PR work for Zionists
 
I saw a funny interview from Trump where he basically he implied that the Strait of Hormuz is open, and when asked about the lack of traffic in the strait, said that it was the ships choice.

I still don't see how these defuses. Iranians have hit the GCC countries quite hard and occasionally land hits in Israel. But are taken a lot of hits in the process.
 
The valour and courage with which Iran’s war is being fought by keyboard commandos is truly admirable.

The bravery with which Iran's war is being relentlessly waged online from the comfort of their bedrooms by the British converts is commendable, comparable to the historic voyage undertaken by the Aussie convicts Down Under, except this expedition only requires Wi-Fi, a charger and loads of free time.

US and Israel are badly loosing this battle...
:inti
 
Red-Indian said:
Today's Al Jazeera carries an Op-Ed by Ismail Baghaei - spokesperson for the Iranian foreign ministry criticising the US and Israeli war on Iran. I think Iran doesn't believe it's as biased as you do.

They have been extremely critical of Israel through the war and in fact through the entire Gaza invasion. While I'm not going to say they're perfect (no one is), I'm comfortable trusting that they're not deliberately hiding damage to Israel.
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So, in this conflict foreign air bases in Gulf were bigger targets than Tel Aviv.
 
Red-Indian said:
Today's Al Jazeera carries an Op-Ed by Ismail Baghaei - spokesperson for the Iranian foreign ministry criticising the US and Israeli war on Iran. I think Iran doesn't believe it's as biased as you do.

They have been extremely critical of Israel through the war and in fact through the entire Gaza invasion. While I'm not going to say they're perfect (no one is), I'm comfortable trusting that they're not deliberately hiding damage to Israel.
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Iranians will share their viewpoints where they can because the obvious is these are mainstream media outlets so ofcourse they want the World to know. No one is watching Iranian television networks to get their side of the story. And even if they report something, who is believing it? So they have no choice but to use whatever channels are available to them, including social media.

As for CNN and Al Jazeera, why don't they have their reporters be actually present in Israel to report the ground realities.

A media blanket ban is only benefiting one side. Super powers can't afford to lose face. This is much like what Modi did in operation Sindoor. Lahore port bhi le gye par apne jahazon ka btaya nahi
 
Master Blaster said:
The valour and courage with which Iran’s war is being fought by keyboard commandos is truly admirable.

The bravery with which Iran's war is being relentlessly waged online from the comfort of their bedrooms by the British converts is commendable, comparable to the historic voyage undertaken by the Aussie convicts Down Under, except this expedition only requires Wi-Fi, a charger and loads of free time.

US and Israel are badly loosing this battle...
:inti
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What is the point of using terms like "British converts".

What were they converted from and why?
 
BDfanforever said:
Yes, I have noticed some tune change in Al Jazeera as missiles and drones were sent their way.
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Same! In the beggining they were reporting about attacks on Israel now its like oh sirens were heard and missiles were spotted over so and so city. Lame journalism, expected better
 
daytrader said:
Iranians will share their viewpoints where they can because the obvious is these are mainstream media outlets so ofcourse they want the World to know. No one is watching Iranian television networks to get their side of the story. And even if they report something, who is believing it? So they have no choice but to use whatever channels are available to them, including social media.

As for CNN and Al Jazeera, why don't they have their reporters be actually present in Israel to report the ground realities.

A media blanket ban is only benefiting one side. Super powers can't afford to lose face. This is much like what Modi did in operation Sindoor. Lahore port bhi le gye par apne jahazon ka btaya nahi
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Ironically they believe in freedom of press. It's mind boggling how they think their people are immune to raining missiles.
 
Master Blaster said:
The valour and courage with which Iran’s war is being fought by keyboard commandos is truly admirable.

The bravery with which Iran's war is being relentlessly waged online from the comfort of their bedrooms by the British converts is commendable, comparable to the historic voyage undertaken by the Aussie convicts Down Under, except this expedition only requires Wi-Fi, a charger and loads of free time.

US and Israel are badly loosing this battle...
:inti
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Thanks bro, we British concerts really appreciate the perspective of an uncompromising Indian adherent of the ancient philosophy of monkey worshipping.
 
emranabbas said:
According to @Devadwal there hasn’t been a single attack on Israel, but Israel and the U.S. are pounding Iran

Anything that does not fit his narrative immediately becomes “AI generated”, “fake news”, or a “lie”. That seems to be the standard response whenever appears that contradicts the version he wants people to believe.

People on this forum already know his track record. He has repeatedly taken an openly anti-Muslim stance and appears to spend most of his time pushing the same anti-Muslim propaganda

It makes you wonder whether users like this are just ordinary users or people pushing an agenda. The way he constantly defends one side while attacking Muslims in every discussion gives the impression that he is doing paid PR work for Zionists
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When you post videos of Iran's attack on Iraq while spreading false Propy like the attack on Haifa, it shows who you are 🤡

On Daily basis I exposed you multiple times with proof still Pakistani never learn.

:klopp :kp
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I saw a funny interview from Trump where he basically he implied that the Strait of Hormuz is open, and when asked about the lack of traffic in the strait, said that it was the ships choice.

I still don't see how these defuses. Iranians have hit the GCC countries quite hard and occasionally land hits in Israel. But are taken a lot of hits in the process.
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As I was just telling @daytrader, I've been relying on Al Jazeera for what seems like reasonably unbiased verified news. It's not perfect - they're relying on third party accounts from inside Israel but they're making a real effort.

Doesn't seem close to a resolution but Iranian missile and drone barrages do seem to be trending down. Whether they're running out of stocks or trying to maintain a strategic reserve is up for debate.

US and Israel also seem to have run out of primary targets and are now hitting secondary targets like regional IRGC offices and now absurdly, energy infrastructure.

Tough to see a clear path to an end.
 
Red-Indian said:
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As I was just telling @daytrader, I've been relying on Al Jazeera for what seems like reasonably unbiased verified news. It's not perfect - they're relying on third party accounts from inside Israel but they're making a real effort.

Doesn't seem close to a resolution but Iranian missile and drone barrages do seem to be trending down. Whether they're running out of stocks or trying to maintain a strategic reserve is up for debate.

US and Israel also seem to have run out of primary targets and are now hitting secondary targets like regional IRGC offices and now absurdly, energy infrastructure.

Tough to see a clear path to an end.
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In a war like this the non American side will always suffer more casualties. The Americans have air superiority almost anywhere and their defence budget dwarfs every other country. They also quite often attack civilians and then brush it off with an apology, it's happened in almost every "war". They will no doubt "win" if casualties are counted.

Alternatively we can look at other objectives. Iran has supposedly destroyed American bases in the region that will take years to rebuild and inflicted trillions of damages on their gulf rivarls.

If the war was to end today with the revolutionary guard in place and a new Ayatollah that replaced the 86 year old that was killed, but with American interests in the region severely damaged and the gulf countries set back big time. Is it an outright loss for Iran? I would say no.

They aren't ever going to "outright" win either but it also looks increasingly different for an American win which would be regime change and a neutered Iran.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
In a war like this the non American side will always suffer more casualties. The Americans have air superiority almost anywhere and their defence budget dwarfs every other country. They also quite often attack civilians and then brush it off with an apology, it's happened in almost every "war". They will no doubt "win" if casualties are counted.

Alternatively we can look at other objectives. Iran has supposedly destroyed American bases in the region that will take years to rebuild and inflicted trillions of damages on their gulf rivarls.

If the war was to end today with the revolutionary guard in place and a new Ayatollah that replaced the 86 year old that was killed, but with American interests in the region severely damaged and the gulf countries set back big time. Is it an outright loss for Iran? I would say no.
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Yeah I don't see anyway America can 'win' this war. Primarily because I'm not sure they have clearly defined what a win is. Everybody in that administration says something different when asked about objectives. Regime change is pretty much impossible and anything else is just status quo.

I think Israel can 'win' though. All they are looking for is a decimation of Iran's ability to hit them in any significant way for at least 5 years. If they're able to keep the US on a leash for a bit longer throwing everything they have at Iran, it could set the Iranian Nuclear, missile and drone program a massive amount - 5 years, a decade even. That would remove the last real even remote threat to their military supremacy over the Middle-east and may assuage their utter paranoia.
 
IMMY69 said:
There is blanket press sensorship in Israel...
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Israeli papers might be voluntarily not posting any damage pics but I doubt there is any govt order/law that prevents such coverage.

But there are plenty of citizen journalists on the ground that can post pics on social media.
 
Red-Indian said:
Yeah I don't see anyway America can 'win' this war. Primarily because I'm not sure they have clearly defined what a win is. Everybody in that administration says something different when asked about objectives. Regime change is pretty much impossible and anything else is just status quo.

I think Israel can 'win' though. All they are looking for is a decimation of Iran's ability to hit them in any significant way for at least 5 years. If they're able to keep the US on a leash for a bit longer throwing everything they have at Iran, it could set the Iranian Nuclear, missile and drone program a massive amount - 5 years, a decade even. That would remove the last real even remote threat to their military supremacy over the Middle-east and may assuage their utter paranoia.
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I would add that whilst most eyes are on Iran, Israel is destroying and taking over large territories of Lebanon
 
RexRex said:
Israeli papers might be voluntarily not posting any damage pics but I doubt there is any govt order/law that prevents such coverage.

But there are plenty of citizen journalists on the ground that can post pics on social media.
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Yes and I have posted a couple of links...

There are many many more on social media
 
Red-Indian said:
Yeah I don't see anyway America can 'win' this war. Primarily because I'm not sure they have clearly defined what a win is. Everybody in that administration says something different when asked about objectives. Regime change is pretty much impossible and anything else is just status quo.

I think Israel can 'win' though. All they are looking for is a decimation of Iran's ability to hit them in any significant way for at least 5 years. If they're able to keep the US on a leash for a bit longer throwing everything they have at Iran, it could set the Iranian Nuclear, missile and drone program a massive amount - 5 years, a decade even. That would remove the last real even remote threat to their military supremacy over the Middle-east and may assuage their utter paranoia.
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Makes you wonder, how comprised is Trump in Epstein Files that he's now a complete dog for Israel
 
Multiple Israeli news outlets report that the UAE has launched an attack on an Iranian desalination plant.

This would be the first direct attack from the UAE on Iran since the start of this war and an enormous development

However UAE official denied this news.

:kp
 
Attacking desalination plants both in Iran by US-Israel and in Arab states by Iran will impact millions of lives, including, Indians and Pakistani living there.

Iran warned it will strike these plants after its facilities were attacked.

I hope all parties quickly agree to not do this any further.

:kp
 
Red-Indian said:
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As I was just telling @daytrader, I've been relying on Al Jazeera for what seems like reasonably unbiased verified news. It's not perfect - they're relying on third party accounts from inside Israel but they're making a real effort.

Doesn't seem close to a resolution but Iranian missile and drone barrages do seem to be trending down. Whether they're running out of stocks or trying to maintain a strategic reserve is up for debate.

US and Israel also seem to have run out of primary targets and are now hitting secondary targets like regional IRGC offices and now absurdly, energy infrastructure.

Tough to see a clear path to an end.
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Iran & Lebanon casualties by US attck are 1671 vs. Only 30 by Iran's attack
 
Devadwal said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2030610297824706940

:kp
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Three people are injured, including one seriously, at two impact sites in central Israel following Iran's latest ballistic missile attack, which is suspected to have been a cluster bomb warhead, first responders say.

Magen David Adom says it treated three people with shrapnel injuries. They include a man in his 40s in serious condition in Tel Aviv, and a 25-year-old in moderate condition and another man aged 56 in good condition who were injured in Petah Tikva.

More than a dozen impact sites were reported across central Israel, police officials say, adding that the spread of the impact sites indicates the Iranian ballistic missile was likely carrying a cluster bomb warhead.

The IDF says search and rescue soldiers were dispatched to the scene, and it is investigating the circumstances of the impacts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2030614347152535804

:kp
 
Central Israel saw sixteen impact sites in the latest missile barrage, indicating the Iranian missiles were likely equipped with cluster warheads

:kp
 
IMMY69 said:
Makes you wonder, how comprised is Trump in Epstein Files that he's now a complete dog for Israel
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At this stage if that is the angle, Trump should just throw his hands up and admit to whatever is in the files instead of invading random countries. After all, it's not like the latter will make the files go away.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/2030620479283753389

:kp
Devadwal said:
Three people are injured, including one seriously, at two impact sites in central Israel following Iran's latest ballistic missile attack, which is suspected to have been a cluster bomb warhead, first responders say.

Magen David Adom says it treated three people with shrapnel injuries. They include a man in his 40s in serious condition in Tel Aviv, and a 25-year-old in moderate condition and another man aged 56 in good condition who were injured in Petah Tikva.

More than a dozen impact sites were reported across central Israel, police officials say, adding that the spread of the impact sites indicates the Iranian ballistic missile was likely carrying a cluster bomb warhead.

The IDF says search and rescue soldiers were dispatched to the scene, and it is investigating the circumstances of the impacts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2030614347152535804

:kp
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Varun said:
At this stage if that is the angle, Trump should just throw his hands up and admit to whatever is in the files instead of invading random countries. After all, it's not like the latter will make the files go away.
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I think Isreal hold the real incriminating evidence so as long as Trump follows orders, he'll be safe
 
Devadwal said:
Attacking desalination plants both in Iran by US-Israel and in Arab states by Iran will impact millions of lives, including, Indians and Pakistani living there.

Iran warned it will strike these plants after its facilities were attacked.

I hope all parties quickly agree to not do this any further.

:kp
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depriving civilians of drinking water is as sadistic as it can get and I don’t know why you need to put an emoji at the bottom.
 
hur rizvi said:
depriving civilians of drinking water is as sadistic as it can get and I don’t know why you need to put an emoji at the bottom.
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I've clarified many times before that I use this kp emoji most of the time. It doesn't mean I'm celebrating.:kp
 
Now Trump is saying he doesn't want the Kurds to get involved in the conflict.

I hope that translates as the Kurds telling Trump to go to hell.
 
AAli98 said:
Apparently Netenyahoo & Trump getting ready to nuke Iran !!
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I heard that may be the only way to destroy Iran's deep bunker military tech. I don't know if that would mean nukes armed with bunker-busting missile tech so the nuclear fallout would be mostly underground, but it seems completely deranged. But these are mushriks we are talking about, they are capable of anything.
 
Markhor said:
If you guys want a good Israeli news source then Haaretz deserves a mention. They're anti-war and anti-occupation which is why the Israeli Govt despises them as do much of their public.

You won't find opinion piece headlines like these in other Israeli outlets:

Everyone in This Country Has Gone Insane

Iran's Arsenal Exposes the Gap Between Netanyahu's Bravado and Reality

I Protested the Iran War – Israeli Police Beat, Arrested and Strip-searched Me
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Thanks - it's a pity all of these are behind paywalls.

And I will give Israel a morsel of credit for allowing this newspaper to exist.
 
Trump never thought war will prolong this far, they were of the view by eliminating Khamenei Iran will become a headless chicken
 
If it's true they'll go down in history as the 21st century Hitler and Mussolini. Idiots.
 
hur rizvi said:
Hope not. Galloway can speculate dramatically sometimes
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He is speculating dramatically here. His justification is that israel is in existential danger, which it is not. But with a lunatic at the helm in Netenyahu, it is conceivable he could push that angle. He's already got US to intervene on israel's behalf in this war against their own interest. And bibi is desperate to crush any military counter threat to israel, which has always been the aim of the state itself.
 
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