I don't buy this bro they lost to the best side in world and they give them a close fight nothing to feel bsd about pakistan still the second best team.in asia beat sri lanka and bangladesh
I am not saying to celebrate have a look at their record they won 36 consecutive matches have thrashed so called best team like england into peices so no shame loosing against them.
This was a match Pakistan had it in their grasp, twice or thrice- couldnt close it out....As an Indian of certain age its an 180 degree from the Sharjah memories where India would have the upper hand for 3/4 of the match and then Pakistan would find a way to come back and snatch the victory.....
Bro i get this what i am saying india in ranked number one for a reason if teams like england were torn apart by india what chance does sri lanka pakistan haveObjective analysis should take everything into account. How did you win? Who played big role things like that.
Pakistan is the 3rd worst top 6 in terms of strike rate above Honkong and UAE.
In the winning matches Pakistan's top 6 is the worst performers by some distance. Basically lower order bailed them out in the matches they won
But they are ranked number one for a reason pakistan actually should be proud on themselves how close they got teams like england were torn apart by india pakistan is still the second best team in asia after india.
Don't bring India into this at all. Just look at your performance in isolation. You played a lot of minnows too. Second table shows exclusively the performance of Paksitan against other teams. Your top 6 is the worst against those teams as well. India has won. I still want 3 changes. You have to constantly improve. Just because you won or lost to top team gracefully that doesn't mean your team is good.
Ok fair enough but don't you think this team can impove if they make some changes like drop rauf who lost them this game?
Then tell me how did england so called bazzballer went in india vs india india smashed them like minnows thats the problem with pak fans they don't see what this indian team has done to other teams.If we are celebrating being “beaten less badly” that goes to show how low we’ve swooped as a cricketing nation
That is not how you change. Dropping the match ka mujrim. Who knows he might win you the next match. Pakistan finds a new match ka mujrim every match. Shaheen was taken apart in the last match by India but Haris Rauf bowled well. It just happens. Pakistan did all this shake up with one objective in mind which is to play modern cricket. Are they playing more modern cricket than an year back?
That is not how you change. Dropping the match ka mujrim. Who knows he might win you the next match. Pakistan finds a new match ka mujrim every match. Shaheen was taken apart in the last match by India but Haris Rauf bowled well. It just happens. Pakistan did all this shake up with one objective in mind which is to play modern cricket. Are they playing more modern cricket than an year back?
2025 strike rates for teams that played regular nations
I don't think this team will beat those teams convincingly in conducive conditions. If anything this team can collapse even more rapidly against such teams. May be with their bowling. Not with their batting.
I mean pace bowlers will always go for runs in these conditions have a look at strac he was was taken to cleaners in t20 semi final by rohit it hapeens it's agha fault not to bowl his spinners overs why did he went to rauf knowing these conditions fast bowlers will go for plenty.
We need to focus on our own problems, it’s not about England or any other country. We had more of a reason than any other country to beat them considering the fact they disrespected us with the handshake drama, said there was no rivalry and boasted the fact their 7-0 etc. To make matters worse, we played against them 3 times and lost each time due to the useless players in the team getting paid for nothing.
True bro atleast agha is not loosing to usa ireland this is the thing these pak fans won't understand.
Team like INdia will target someone. Because the pitch was slow trundlers worked. Bumrah also leaked runs in these conditions. Your bigger issue was your 33 for 9 collapse. Not bowlers.
You know that Haris conceded 15 runs against USA and then Amir messedu. Bowlers lost that game. IT has nothing to do with Agha being Captain.
So drop this tapiya harris you have so many options wasim.jnr abbas afridi
Tell me which team has beaten india in last 36 matches no one so called bazzballer England were treated like minnows atleast pak fought till last ball with their team you have too see india record what they have done to all other teams.
Not this Rauf defense again. It has been told to you multiple times that Rauf has choked in similar situations multiple times on multiple pitches in crucial matches against multiple teams.That is not how you change. Dropping the match ka mujrim. Who knows he might win you the next match. Pakistan finds a new match ka mujrim every match. Shaheen was taken apart in the last match by India but Haris Rauf bowled well. It just happens. Pakistan did all this shake up with one objective in mind which is to play modern cricket. Are they playing more modern cricket than an year back?
2025 strike rates for teams that played regular nations
Was USA also team like india targeting Rauf? Did bumrah also leak runs in the world T20 like Rauf?
It’s a shame cricket is a game about batting AND bowling.Objective analysis should take everything into account. How did you win? Who played big role things like that.
Pakistan is the 3rd worst top 6 in terms of strike rate above Honkong and UAE.
In the winning matches Pakistan's top 6 is the worst performers by some distance. Basically lower order bailed them out in the matches they won
You are missin gthe point. Point is about how Pakistan's batting failure is squarely blamed on one bowler that went for runs. In each innings somebody will travel. Pakistan wanst every single bowler in their side to be economical against a world no.1 ranked side. They were lucky that trundler Faheem got away with cheap numbers. Saim got away with cheap numbers. Whatever Rauf usually leaks was offset by two average bowlers. India picked two sixes from abrar too.
Ok, but the game is still about batting AND bowling.
Not just bowling. That was not enough. You need runs from bowlers and lower order to bail your top order out.YOur top 6 as a whole is on par with Honkong and UAE. Doesn't that concern you?
Message is : We just lost to India who beat everyone. So we have no room for improvement. Great attitude lol This team will get another reality check in the world cup. I an sure there will be posts like "We almost beat Australia, We almost NZ". Nepal has a real chance to upset one of the teams.
You got smacked for 202 vs SL. Even a crap batting line up like Pak smashed your top bowler’s first spell 2 games in a row. Imagine what Australia, England and South Africa would do to that bowling line up. Does that concern you?
Oman batting seems better than pakistan batting.
Exactly. No hunger to win here, they are happy just competing against India. Such things would be unacceptable in India or Australia- we hold ourselves to better standards.
India have lost just 10 of their last 61 T20I games which includes wins against England, SA, Australia, New Zealand, SL and West Indies. All series wins. The bowling will just do fine. Yes Bumrah was off colour in this tournament but he will not be always. India will play Arshdeep when they are playing on flat wickets and with Pandya and the spinners, India will have good attack on those pitches. The biggest USP for India is the batting where most of the times they manage to out bat the opposition. India scored 283/1 in Johannesburg less than a year ago and bowled SA out for 148. So yes the bowling will do fine.
Dube the part timer was enough to contain them. India also bowled ENgland out for 97 after racking 245 where Abhishek made 135.
Yes and I was kind of surprised with Dube's bowling in this tournament, not only did he do well with the cutters, his pace was up as well. He was bowling 130 k+ which is good for a part-time bowler. He does not get to bowl in IPL anymore because of the impact player rule. He gets swapped out for a bowler in most cases which makes it impossible for him to bowl. This rule actually will kill a lot of all-rounders as they will not be able to use both their skills. Abhishek Sharma himself is a decent spinner and so is Tilak Varma. India beat England 4-1 in T20Is and 3-0 in ODIs. India are a fantastic white ball team and have enough bowling resources to beat any team on any surface.
This dubai pitch helped the trundlers very well as it didn't come on. Those who bowled at normal pace got clattered around. Bumrah didn't drastically reduce pace. He was bowling at same speed for some reason. Shaheen was thrashed around. Haris Rauf was thrashed around. But Faheem with his ultra trundling got something out of it. Harshit bowled at 145k and got thrashed around
I completely depends on pitches. Pakistan never understood the concept of “Horses for courses”.
It’s not about losing against the number 1 team. Everyone knows there’s no competition but playing like total noobs losing 9 wickets for 30 some runs after having a fantastic start is really unforgivable. It’s not just the lack of ability but also lack of awareness and common sense. Rauf’s full tosses, Haris run out opportunity, Talat’s dropped catch. There are series of errors that made Pakistan look like they were playing a school team. India played horribly in this tournament. Even Oman ran them close. Had they played India 2 more times, they probably would snatch a win.
That is the difference between a weak team and a strong team.
Last time they slowed down against spin getting to a sub-par total which India chased down with ease.
Lol the cope is off the charts.
Pakistan is in the final because of Bangaldesh's horrible fielding. India dropped a lot of catches in the first few matches. Infact coming into final Pakistan came in as the best ifelding side, India came in as the worst fielding side. In the final INdia stepped up. Pakistan went the other way.
Ya India had two more batsmen to come.
In those 9 losses, pak have even won the toss on some occasions and elected to bat first. Suicidal.
this poster boy treatment of getting a player to play all formats needs to stop
Just to add further
Ya. GIll's selection is making this unit look like pre 2024 world cup unit where we had these accumulators Kohli, Rahul. We created an aggressive unit. It is all gone now with one silly move
It’s awful the way they are treating Jaiswal. I still can’t get over that they kept Jaiswal out for gill.
Unless sky is out , Jaiswal can't get in.i .ay happen after 26 t20 wc only.In 1 or 2 years, suryavanshi will be outcasted due to Gill.
What a shame, India could have a much better squad. I think Dube is a fraud...Tilak is clutch, Rinku should be brought in....and Rana must be discarded for good
Dube with all his limitations is a clutch. He played well in t20 wc finals and Asia cup .both times, india were stuck and facing the music. Rinku will be there but cant get in as he is not a Multi dimensional player. he should compete against tilak now.that's the only middle order position available for batsmen. Rana is only pacer capable of batting worh 2/3 domestic hundreds.its huge advantage for any Indian pacer.
Tbh, we need accumulators too to arrest the slide when the top order fails- this last match and the T20 WC final shows that. But we already have those in Tilak Verma & Sanju Samson, so we don’t need one more in Gill.
No Bumrah. Pandya bowled one over.
Core of the side was pretty much the same. Pandya missed the game against Pakistan too, and Bumrah wasn't pulling up any trees in this Asia Cup.
Naah Bumrah was way better than Rana who was getting hit so much.
That was the best batting wicket in the tournament. Ofcourse Bumrah is an upgrade over Rana but the difference in the bowling lineup wasn't as big considering Arshdeep was also there.
