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ENGLAND'S tour of shame has continued with yet more players at the centre of a disciplinary investigation into another late-night incident out in Perth.

The players, who are 2-0 down in the Ashes, are being investigated after England Lions batsman Ben Duckett was yanked from today's tour match at Richardson Park for disciplinary reasons.

It is understood Duckett was one of a number of Lions players out with senior England players in a bar when the incident happened with security personnel also present.

As yet it is unclear exactly what occurred between the players, but no other members of the public are thought to be involved, nor was there any police involvement, it is thought to be an episode between the players only.

England coach Trevor Bayliss and Lions boss Andy Flower are conducting the investigation while keeping managing director Andrew Strauss informed back in London.

The incident happened on Thursday evening, the first night the team was back in Perth following their defeat in Adelaide.

The Ashes squad had enjoyed a quiz night in their team hotel before then heading out just before 11pm and joining the Lions players for a few drinks in a bar.

Perth is the city in which Jonny Bairstow bumped heads with Cameron Bancroft in a bar on the first night England arrived on tour, but the stumper, who was out, is not involved at all in this incident.

It was the one night in which the 12 midnight curfew was lifted by the management with the players given a couple of days off to recharge before getting back to business.

Whatever the extent of the incident it will comes as enormous embarrassment for England that once again their players have allowed themselves to be caught up in yet another off-field sideshow.

And even thought Duckett is the player at the centre of this incident and here with the Lions, he has played Test cricket and would be more than aware of the current climate in which English cricket is operating.

There is every chance that the 23-year-old opening batsman, who played against Bangladesh and India last year, could be sent home from Australia with three marquee T20 games against the Perth Scorchers to come.

The Northamptonshire batsman missed out on a golden chance to push his international case forward, but the ramifications of his actions could have further consequences.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/ashes-tour-yet-turmoil-following-11663893
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Tch Tch. These England cricketers are simply incapable of handling fame and success. They can't hold their alcohol either, but that's old news.

Fair to say they'll never survive for any period of time in a sub-continental team. It'll be too much for them.
 
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Batsman Ben Duckett was dropped from England's Ashes tour game on Saturday following an incident in a Perth bar.

The 23-year-old, part of the England Lions squad, was due to feature against a Cricket Australia XI as a number of the senior party were rested.

On Thursday, he was socialising with the Lions and members of the senior squad, whose curfew imposed earlier in the tour had been lifted that day.

Duckett has been suspended pending a disciplinary investigation.

The Northants left-hander averages 15.71 in four Tests for England, the last of which was against India in November 2016.

He has been replaced in the England team for the game at Richardson Park by Joe Clarke.

England are 2-0 down in the Ashes series and will relinquish the urn if they are beaten in the third Test in Perth, which begins on Thursday.

The Ashes squad had been placed under a curfew after Jonny Bairstow was accused of 'head-butting' Australia batsman Cameron Bancroft in a Perth bar at the beginning of the tour.

The players were required to return to their hotel by midnight, a rule that had only been lifted on the night of the Duckett incident.

It is understood that no members of the public were involved and England team security were present.

In September, all-rounder Ben Stokes was arrested on suspicion of actual bodily harm after an altercation outside a Bristol nightclub.

He was made unavailable for selection by the England and Wales Cricket Board as he awaits the results of a police investigation, though is currently playing domestic cricket in New Zealand.

In the aftermath of the Bairstow controversy, director of cricket Andrew Strauss denied that there was a drinking culture in the England team, but said they must be "smarter" with the situations they place themselves in.

"We need to sharpen up our act," said Strauss in November.

"The players are adults - intelligent adults - and sometimes they are not using that intelligence in the right way.

"The last thing any of us want is to be in the news for the wrong reasons and I will be reminding the players of their obligations."


http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/42291541
 
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Either these things happen all the time and its only Ashes where the media is hyping it up or there is some serious problem with young England players!
 
Ben Duckett to YJB ~ "hold my beer" trying to outdo each other, this lot :))
 
According to Reports, he was due to play the warm up against CA XI. Prior to the game, he got into a heated argument with a member of the main England squad on Thursday night and Duckett poured alcohol over the other player's head. He has been dropped for the game and replaced by Worcestershire's Joe Clark.

Only in England. :facepalm:
 
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Too much booze in our culture - ubiquitous establishments and advertisements, animalistic behaviour in the towns and cities every weekend leading to loads of unreported rapes, concealable weapons being brought onto the streets, and terrifying fistfights where people die; along with the pressure to drink more and more of the stuff and the cruel ribbing when a man can’t take his ale.

I am not speaking with judgment either - I used to be like these chaps when I was their age. Luckily for me my life, health and career were almost entirely unaffected by alcohol consumption in the long term, but many people are considerably more unfortunate. The stuff frightens me now - it brings out our worst inner desires and instincts - I no longer drink.

I work for a FTSE 100 and there are harsh policies in place for drug possession / drug pushing (with a more sympathetic view of drug addicts); but alcohol consumption meanwhile, whilst banned in the office, is absolutely permitted on lunch breaks and at social functions provided it does not noticeably affect the colleague’s behaviour or ability to work. I was amazed when I found this out - after years of refusing invites to the Friday liquid lunch I found out that HR were okay with everyone doing it.

Booze is a huge widespread problem in our society that needs to be tackled with hard measures.
 
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Wonder why Duckett is in the team and Hameed isn't? Ducket's Test average is 15 and Hameed's is 43.
 
Andrew Strauss is not going to have much hair left by the end of this tour.

The incident itself is minor but again, after the Stokes incident players should use some common sense. In an Ashes tour you are under the spotlight.

Duckett has had disciplinary issues in the past too.
 
James said:
Too much booze in our culture - ubiquitous establishments and advertisements, animalistic behaviour in the towns and cities every weekend leading to loads of unreported rapes, concealable weapons being brought onto the streets, and terrifying fistfights where people die; along with the pressure to drink more and more of the stuff and the cruel ribbing when a man can’t take his ale.

I am not speaking with judgment either - I used to be like these chaps when I was their age. Luckily for me my life, health and career were almost entirely unaffected by alcohol consumption in the long term, but many people are considerably more unfortunate. The stuff frightens me now - it brings out our worst inner desires and instincts - I no longer drink.

I work for a FTSE 100 and there are harsh policies in place for drug possession / drug pushing (with a more sympathetic view of drug addicts); but alcohol consumption meanwhile, whilst banned in the office, is absolutely permitted on lunch breaks and at social functions provided it does not noticeably affect the colleague’s behaviour or ability to work. I was amazed when I found this out - after years of refusing invites to the Friday liquid lunch I found out that HR were okay with everyone doing it.

Booze is a huge widespread problem in our society that needs to be tackled with hard measures.
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if that was the case, UK would have been a mess by now.

Its something about the sports culture in Cricket which is causing this.
 
On a lighter note, just wondering if Jesse Ryder is coaching England these days!
 
the australians seem to be more discipline infront of these guys
 
James said:
Too much booze in our culture - ubiquitous establishments and advertisements, animalistic behaviour in the towns and cities every weekend leading to loads of unreported rapes, concealable weapons being brought onto the streets, and terrifying fistfights where people die; along with the pressure to drink more and more of the stuff and the cruel ribbing when a man can’t take his ale.

I am not speaking with judgment either - I used to be like these chaps when I was their age. Luckily for me my life, health and career were almost entirely unaffected by alcohol consumption in the long term, but many people are considerably more unfortunate. The stuff frightens me now - it brings out our worst inner desires and instincts - I no longer drink.

I work for a FTSE 100 and there are harsh policies in place for drug possession / drug pushing (with a more sympathetic view of drug addicts); but alcohol consumption meanwhile, whilst banned in the office, is absolutely permitted on lunch breaks and at social functions provided it does not noticeably affect the colleague’s behaviour or ability to work. I was amazed when I found this out - after years of refusing invites to the Friday liquid lunch I found out that HR were okay with everyone doing it.

Booze is a huge widespread problem in our society that needs to be tackled with hard measures.
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I teach teenagers and 2 of most discussed topics i hear on a Monday morning are who got drunk at the weekend and who got high on weed. As you would expect most These players are still well behaved but they cant entirely get away from the drinking culture.
 
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Ben Duckett was dropped from Saturday's Ashes tour game after pouring a drink over England bowler James Anderson's head in a Perth bar.

The 23-year-old batsman, part of the England Lions squad, was due to play against a Cricket Australia XI as a number of the senior party were rested.

On Thursday, he was socialising with Lions and senior squad members, who were not under a curfew.

"It's trivial, but in the current climate not acceptable," said coach Trevor Bayliss.

Anderson, who has played in 131 Tests, is England's all-time leading wicket-taker and there is no suggestion the 35-year-old did anything wrong.

In September, England all-rounder and vice-captain Ben Stokes was arrested on suspicion of actual bodily harm after an altercation outside a Bristol nightclub.

Then, at the start of the Ashes tour, Jonny Bairstow was accused of 'head-butting' Australia's Cameron Bancroft in a Perth bar.

"Everyone has been warned about how even small things can be blown out of all proportion," added Bayliss.

"I'm disappointed. With what we have had to go through already with these problems, it is not acceptable."

Duckett has been suspended pending a disciplinary investigation that will be led by Lions coach Andy Flower.

"Andy will look after his player and if anything needs to be said or done with the first team, we'll handle that," added Australian Bayliss.

"I'm not sure what more I can say to the players. I'm sure there will be some stern words from above."

When asked if he is "fed up" about having to address off-field matters, Bayliss replied: "Very much so. I'm here to coach the team and I end up spending most of the time trying to explain behaviour that the boys have been warned about."

The latest indiscretion involving the England team is thought to have left management incredibly angry.

There is a feeling that trouble usually centres around the same small group of players and that they could pay with their place in the squad, even if that weakens the overall strength of the team.

"I might review who is in the team," said Bayliss. "They can't keep making the same mistakes.

"Most of the guys are fine, but somewhere along the line some of the guys have to pull their heads in."

Northants left-hander Duckett averages 15.71 in four Tests for England, the last of which was against India in November 2016.

He was replaced in the England team for the game at Richardson Park by Joe Clarke.

England are 2-0 down in the Ashes series and will relinquish the urn if they are beaten in the third Test in Perth, which begins on Thursday.

The Ashes squad had been placed under a curfew after the incident between Bairstow and Bancroft came to light during England's 10-wicket defeat in the first Test in Brisbane.

Though both Bairstow and Bancroft described the occurrence as "without malice", England's players were subsequently required to return to their hotel by midnight.

That curfew was lifted for the first time on the night of Duckett's indiscretion.

It is understood that no members of the public were involved and England team security were present.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42291541
 
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James said:
Too much booze in our culture - ubiquitous establishments and advertisements, animalistic behaviour in the towns and cities every weekend leading to loads of unreported rapes, concealable weapons being brought onto the streets, and terrifying fistfights where people die; along with the pressure to drink more and more of the stuff and the cruel ribbing when a man can’t take his ale.

I am not speaking with judgment either - I used to be like these chaps when I was their age. Luckily for me my life, health and career were almost entirely unaffected by alcohol consumption in the long term, but many people are considerably more unfortunate. The stuff frightens me now - it brings out our worst inner desires and instincts - I no longer drink.

I work for a FTSE 100 and there are harsh policies in place for drug possession / drug pushing (with a more sympathetic view of drug addicts); but alcohol consumption meanwhile, whilst banned in the office, is absolutely permitted on lunch breaks and at social functions provided it does not noticeably affect the colleague’s behaviour or ability to work. I was amazed when I found this out - after years of refusing invites to the Friday liquid lunch I found out that HR were okay with everyone doing it.

Booze is a huge widespread problem in our society that needs to be tackled with hard measures.
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Depressing but 100% true which is why I am shocked at how Stokes and Hales have been included in the LOI squads. Forget the pending charges, thuggish behaviour and life-threatening fist fights caused by alcohol consumption should not sit well with any decent individual.
 
It's not great when off the field drama happens, let alone when you are 2-0 down in the Ashes. But let's not forget, you are in Australia, miles away from your family (don't know what ECB's rules are regarding family coming on tours but still away from your home country) and if you sit in your hotel room all day that's not fun either and players can get lonely/bored. Socializing is very important when away from home.


I think the Media may be bigging this up as well as the Bairstow incident following what happened to Stokes. If what happened with Stokes, which actually was a big deal, didn't happen, I doubt we would be hearing about stories like these. Minor stuff like this happens on a lot of night outs (Bairstow incident and Duckett incident), but the Stokes fight was very ugly.
 
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Napa said:
Wonder why Duckett is in the team and Hameed isn't? Ducket's Test average is 15 and Hameed's is 43.
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Hameed lost form in the County Championship while Duckett maintained his.

The Duckett drink incident is trivial in itself, but it does not look good in the light of other recent happenings.
 
Robert said:
Hameed lost form in the County Championship while Duckett maintained his.

The Duckett drink incident is trivial in itself, but it does not look good in the light of other recent happenings.
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Duckett pouring a drink over Anderson in public is trivial?.
 
You'd think he'd have respect for a senior player like Anderson?

Unless Anderson did something to provoke him, it's very poor from Duckett.
 
Aman said:
You'd think he'd have respect for a senior player like Anderson?

Unless Anderson did something to provoke him, it's very poor from Duckett.
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Anderson has a history of run-ins to be fair, including with Clarke, Johnson, Jadeja. However he looks like he wouldn't hurt a fly when it comes to the pass.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;! <br>What the hell is happening in English Cricket?!?! <br>Strauss????? It’s becoming a f*****g embarrassment! <a href="https://t.co/IF1nz84lo8">https://t.co/IF1nz84lo8</a></p>— KP (@KP24) <a href="https://twitter.com/KP24/status/939409539706712064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Varun said:
Anderson has a history of run-ins to be fair, including with Clarke, Johnson, Jadeja. However he looks like he wouldn't hurt a fly when it comes to the pass.
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Anderson gets unfairly bullied a lot.
 
Feeling really bad for KP... guy's career was ended for nothing
Strauss must be feeling the heat now
 
The incident is so trivial am shocked this has been blown way out of proportion, just a bit of banter mate! so many sensitive souls, stuff like this happens everyday in English pubs. This suspension has made the incident look really bad, Andrew Snakerauss should be fired; pathetic / vindictive snob.
 
Convict said:
Anderson gets unfairly bullied a lot.
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I appreciate Anderson's longevity, but a read through KP's book suggests that he has always been a fairly frictitious member of the side with constant flashes with members both in the opposition camp and in the England team.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I was a sponsor of the ECB, I’d exercise my right to terminate! It’s a shocker what’s happening!</p>— KP (@KP24) <a href="https://twitter.com/KP24/status/939414515480797184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The hilarious bits are when Aussies take the moral high ground lmao
 
shaz619 said:
The hilarious bits are when Aussies take the moral high ground lmao
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It's disgusting what the ECB (Strauss) did to KP.

Anderson has a checkered history and had KP done what Stokes did, he'd never play again.

Regardless, leaving out KP has only hurt English cricket. The results speak for themselves, their batting line up is pathetic. Even a declining KP would better than the mediocrity that makes it through these days.
 
shaz619 said:
The incident is so trivial am shocked this has been blown way out of proportion, just a bit of banter mate!
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How is it banter? You don't randomly pour a mug of beer on your side's premiere fast bowler's head, you drink it. Keep in mind that you're a 23-year old batsman on the periphery of the side with an iffy record both on and off the field.
 
Varun said:
How is it banter? You don't randomly pour a mug of beer on your side's premiere fast bowler's head, you drink it. Keep in mind that you're a 23-year old batsman on the periphery of the side with an iffy record both on and off the field.
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Gotta be sarcasm brother
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Varun said:
I appreciate Anderson's longevity, but a read through KP's book suggests that he has always been a fairly frictitious member of the side with constant flashes with members both in the opposition camp and in the England team.
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I think you missed the reference. After the first test Anderson wrote a column complaining that the Australian players were bullies.
 
Gilly said:
Horseplay, so Anderson thought it was all a bit of fun, yeah right.
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It is precisely the type of reaction we see on this thread that made the tour management suspend Duckett. It's trivial in itself but in the current climate attracts media interest.
 
Robert said:
It is precisely the type of reaction we see on this thread that made the tour management suspend Duckett. It's trivial in itself but in the current climate attracts media interest.
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So its normal for englands cricketers to go to pubs and pour beers over each without media interest up until now.
 
Varun said:
How is it banter? You don't randomly pour a mug of beer on your side's premiere fast bowler's head, you drink it. Keep in mind that you're a 23-year old batsman on the periphery of the side with an iffy record both on and off the field.
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They weren't exactly exchanging fists mate lol And I know not everyone is a fan of it but that's just how British people behave in pubs all around England, things like that do happen over a drink but no feelings are hurt when all is said and done
 
If a young Pakistani player poured a drink (let's say mango lassi) on a sainted "senior" - it'd be like that nuclear apocalypse scene in Terminator 2.

Life bans, Senate inquiries...
 
Markhor said:
If a young Pakistani player poured a drink (let's say mango lassi) on a sainted "senior" - it'd be like that nuclear apocalypse scene in Terminator 2.

Life bans, Senate inquiries...
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Yeah, he'll be looking forward to a 'life ban' spanning two T20s.
 
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I feel like KP is crossing a line here. He can ridicule the ECB admins / players / ex-players. But attacking their income stream is a douche move. :facepalm:
 
The drinking culture here is out of control. Unless it is controlled the NHS will be overwhelmed completely soon.

England are in a right mess.

Root has no authority and Strauss has lost control. Time for a revamp.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
I feel like KP is crossing a line here. He can ridicule the ECB admins / players / ex-players. But attacking their income stream is a douche move. :facepalm:
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They attacked his income stream by completely shutting him out for "bad behaviour." I don't think he cares.
 
I feel one of the senior players should have brought the team together early on and held a meeting. Remind everyone they're representing their country and what it means to be in this position. Maybe lead by example and cut alcohol out for the remainder of the Ashes. Hearing or seeing it from a fellow teammate you respect resonates far more than hearing it from Strauss/Bayliss.

Unfortunately, I think the senior players are equally irresponsible here considering Anderson is in involved.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
The drinking culture here is out of control. Unless it is controlled the NHS will be overwhelmed completely soon.

England are in a right mess.
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It's only out of control because one and a half pints seems to be the genetic limit for folks from England. Many friends in IT companies here receive employees visiting from London and the like and they report the same story night after night: can't stand even moderately spicy food, unwilling to try new cuisines in general, and they tend to forget their name after a couple of Kingfisher Draughts.
 
These things happen between friends all the time. There was no need to suspend.
 
Markhor said:
If a young Pakistani player poured a drink (let's say mango lassi) on a sainted "senior" - it'd be like that nuclear apocalypse scene in Terminator 2.

Life bans, Senate inquiries...
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We'd see the largest committee formed in PCB history.
 
Gilly said:
So its normal for englands cricketers to go to pubs and pour beers over each without media interest up until now.
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Sure, why do you think this is strange? It's just high spirits. Shouldn't happen in a man representing his country, though.
 
Markhor said:
If a young Pakistani player poured a drink (let's say mango lassi) on a sainted "senior" - it'd be like that nuclear apocalypse scene in Terminator 2.

Life bans, Senate inquiries...
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This.

Can you imagine say Fahim Ashraf pouring a drink over Younis Khan's head?

Forget what would happen. It's literally beyond the imagination that any Indian or Pakistani player would do something like this to a senior player who is an all-time great for the country....
 
Robert said:
Sure, why do you think this is strange? It's just high spirits. Shouldn't happen in a man representing his country, though.
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I played for thirty years in Australia and toured england and have never seen a player pour a beer over another player, thats why I find it odd.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
The drinking culture here is out of control. Unless it is controlled the NHS will be overwhelmed completely soon.

England are in a right mess.

Root has no authority and Strauss has lost control. Time for a revamp.
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Realistically, given their culture (by which I mean drinking being normal and no special respect for seniors) this is relatively trivial.

However English at all levels have lost their heads.

Strauss has bungled this royally. He needs to be creating a siege mentality and bringing the team together. Not punishing and curfewing his own players to satisfy the Aussie media.

It is just beyond belief that in the same sentence the English coach Bayliss has called the incident as both 'trivial' and 'unacceptable'....just bonkers.
 
Simon Hughes on the Analyst was talking a couple of weeks ago with Simon Mann that maybe it's time to retire the drinking culture in English cricket. One good reason he gave was how Moeen Ali stays away from the celebratory champagne popping and ECB needs to think of the Asian community if it wants to reach out to them.

Personally, if they can hold their booze without embarrassing the team, let them drink responsibly. It's 2017, and that's how most of them enjoy their downtime.

What seems like a better idea is that why don't they reserve a restaurant/bar for a private party, put their and staff phones in a locked drawer? They clearly can't behave themselves in a public bar, and understandably can't be expected to be Hashim Amlas.
 
James said:
Too much booze in our culture - ubiquitous establishments and advertisements, animalistic behaviour in the towns and cities every weekend leading to loads of unreported rapes, concealable weapons being brought onto the streets, and terrifying fistfights where people die; along with the pressure to drink more and more of the stuff and the cruel ribbing when a man can’t take his ale.

I am not speaking with judgment either - I used to be like these chaps when I was their age. Luckily for me my life, health and career were almost entirely unaffected by alcohol consumption in the long term, but many people are considerably more unfortunate. The stuff frightens me now - it brings out our worst inner desires and instincts - I no longer drink.

I work for a FTSE 100 and there are harsh policies in place for drug possession / drug pushing (with a more sympathetic view of drug addicts); but alcohol consumption meanwhile, whilst banned in the office, is absolutely permitted on lunch breaks and at social functions provided it does not noticeably affect the colleague’s behaviour or ability to work. I was amazed when I found this out - after years of refusing invites to the Friday liquid lunch I found out that HR were okay with everyone doing it.

Booze is a huge widespread problem in our society that needs to be tackled with hard measures.
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Slow down the tanga Uncle Islamiat!*

[Jokes aside], There's no evidence or reason to believe that a society where people drink is more or less violent than one where they don't.

I do understand and sympathize with what a lot of what you're talking about.
 
Lefthanded said:
Slow down the tanga Uncle Islamiat!*

[Jokes aside], There's no evidence or reason to believe that a society where people drink is more or less violent than one where they don't.

I do understand and sympathize with what a lot of what you're talking about.
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This is not only about violence. People lose their senses and behave in ways they might have avoided if they were in their senses and had control over their emotions.
A lot of health/psychological problems and injuries are a result of drinking. This is hardly a panacea for human soul.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Realistically, given their culture (by which I mean drinking being normal and no special respect for seniors) this is relatively trivial.

However English at all levels have lost their heads.

Strauss has bungled this royally. He needs to be creating a siege mentality and bringing the team together. Not punishing and curfewing his own players to satisfy the Aussie media.

It is just beyond belief that in the same sentence the English coach Bayliss has called the incident as both 'trivial' and 'unacceptable'....just bonkers.
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The Australian culture is no different to England in regards to drinking. There are personalities within the English team that are causing some of these issues, plus the team is losing in a long tour and Stokes just put them under much more scrutiny.
 
Lefthanded said:
Simon Hughes on the Analyst was talking a couple of weeks ago with Simon Mann that maybe it's time to retire the drinking culture in English cricket. One good reason he gave was how Moeen Ali stays away from the celebratory champagne popping and ECB needs to think of the Asian community if it wants to reach out to them.
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Doesn't much of the 'Asian community' in the UK comprise of Punjabis? Those guys gulp down liquor like water.
 
On the flip side, if they were 2 zip up, media/mgmt or Anderson would not have mind, a bucket of bear poured on Mr Anderson. Only reason strokes is not in the team, because like our Trio he was also caught on Camera. Its Camera which is the problem in modern time ;-)
 
Following a disciplinary hearing with England Lions player Ben Duckett, ECB can confirm the following measures have been placed on the player.

Fined the maximum allowable amount for an England Lions player.

Suspended from playing for the rest of the current Lions Australian training camp.

Issued with a final written warning in respect of his conduct as an England player.

Duckett will remain with the England Lions party in Australia and will return to England at the end of the camp on 17 December.
 
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The Ashes 2017-18: James Anderson plays down Ben Duckett pub prank, says England geared up for Perth Test

England‘s tour of Australia, in a bid to defend the Ashes urn, is proving out to be a nightmare. They trail the five-match Test series 0-2, and have been marred with controversies. Firstly, they are without all-rounder Ben Stokes. Stokes was involved in a Bristol-pub brawl incident in September. A decision regarding his participation is yet to be taken. During the first Test, Jonny Bairstow made headlines for an alleged headbutt to Australia opener, Cameron Bancroft. Ben Duckett joined the list as he, representing England Lions in their tour, poured a drink over senior pacer, James Anderson. Anderson played down the Duckett-episode, but insisted the team to remain smart in such incidents for future generation. In addition, Anderson shared the lengths to bowl at WACA (Perth) to dismantle Australia in the third Test.

Playing down the Duckett-controversy

“The incident with Ben Duckett was not malicious and was a bit of a non-event but we understand that in this climate we have to be smarter in the future. The frustrating thing is that what was a pretty silly incident would have gone unnoticed before but now puts an unfair question mark over our culture”, stated Anderson.

’5 players have gone to visit an England fan who is terminally ill and can’t come for the Test’

“We have been working really hard and every now and then on a tour like this, you need a release. We don’t shout about the things we do behind the scenes. We are not those type of people but, for example, five players from the squad have today gone to see an England fan who is terminally ill and can’t come and watch the Test match. That sort of thing is not reported, which is fine, but is a fairer representation of this group of players rather than a couple of minor incidents in bars that have been blown out of all proportion,” added Anderson.

Knowing Australia’s tendency of sledging, Anderson clarified that he is well prepared to counter any verbal spat in relation to the Duckett-episode.

“I know Australia will use the Duckett incident as a way of goading us, or taking the mickey. Fine. It will probably be funnier than what they have spouted at me so far in this series. They jump on anything to have a go at you so I am expecting a bit of lip. I have no problem with that.”

Responsible towards younger generation

“We are all aware that from now on even a minor incident will be seized upon. There is also a bigger picture. ECB have their sponsors and we have a job as role models to the next generation of cricketers who play this game so we have to stay away from silly things that can be misconstrued.”

Let’s talk cricket now…

“The players have moved on already. Our main focus is getting back in the series. That is all everyone is talking about. The meeting we just had was all about bowling plans, batting plans and how we see ourselves performing in this Test. Nothing is going to distract us from winning here.

As a bowling group we have been buoyed by dismissing Australia cheaply in Adelaide. We know the lengths we have to bowl here, which is a bit fuller, almost an English-style length,” said Anderson.

What you have to keep in mind bowling at WACA, Perth?

“You have to keep an eye on the wind at the WACA and we chatted about that in the team meeting. When Mitchell Johnson played against us here he swapped ends when the wind changed direction and he sensed it would suddenly start swinging. You have to keep the ball in a good condition at the WACA as well because if you can get any sort of sideways movement it can be a great help when allied to the bounce,” concluded Anderson.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...-says-england-geared-up-for-perth-test-668992
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking forward to flying home this evening ✈️ It’s not been an ideal trip for me but plenty to take from it. Can’t wait to get back to friends and family now and move forward &#55357;&#56397;&#55356;&#57340;</p>— Ben Duckett (@BenDuckett1) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenDuckett1/status/941900798665125889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16 December 2017</a></blockquote>
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As they say in URDU

Khaya piya kuch naheen, glass tora char anay
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ben Duckett left out of Lions squad to tour West Indies. <br><br>ECB spokesman said:<br><br>"Ben Duckett has not been selected as a result of the off-field incident which led to his suspension and fine in Australia."<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBCCricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BBCCricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/GRCCbZpqgi">pic.twitter.com/GRCCbZpqgi</a></p>— Test Match Special (@bbctms) <a href="https://twitter.com/bbctms/status/943239337822392320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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England's Ashes campaign is becoming a joke now. I have never seen so many controversies in one tour like this one.
 
Duckett should have gone for eye socket. That would have had him selected for one day squad.
 
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