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Tactically and Fitness wise India is far superior to Pakistan
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Do you same thing about Pant and rohit ?
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After looking at Pant and Rohit today I think Pakistan may actually be way ahead fitness wise.
Most of there players are fitter then ours.
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To say the Pakistani players aren't fit is a stupid and illogical statement. At the end of the day, its not a fitness competition. Being at a certain level matters more than being 'fitter' or the 'fittest'. Kohli has been the fittest cricketer in the world for the last 3 years, where has that gotten him?
Threads like these are just laughable to me. They age poorly because they are made as a knee-jerk response to something so minute and insignificant.
I also don't get why Pakistani fans are so self-loathing. Here's a team that fitter, more professional and more skillful than any Pakistan team in the 15-16 years. One that has broken the cycle of repeatedly losing to India in big tournament matches that goes all the back to when we were actually better than them. And yet all posters seem to want to talk about is how every player is a 'hack', 'unfit', incapable of handling pressure''...how about being a little grateful for a change and appreciate how far this team has come in the last 3 years?
Nobody is saying that Pakistan is perfect or doesn't have to improve. But in limited-overs cricket, Pakistan has been a top-tier side for over one and a half years now. And for the first time in a long time, has a pool of talent that could carry it for the next 6-7 years.
But ofcourse rather than just admitting that our posters would instead just focus on India. As if Pakistan has anything close to the money, infrastructure, system, and investment that India has/has made cricket.
Threads like these are just laughable to me. They age poorly because they are made as a knee-jerk response to something so minute and insignificant.
I also don't get why Pakistani fans are so self-loathing. Here's a team that fitter, more professional and more skillful than any Pakistan team in the 15-16 years. One that has broken the cycle of repeatedly losing to India in big tournament matches that goes all the back to when we were actually better than them. And yet all posters seem to want to talk about is how every player is a 'hack', 'unfit', incapable of handling pressure''...how about being a little grateful for a change and appreciate how far this team has come in the last 3 years?
Nobody is saying that Pakistan is perfect or doesn't have to improve. But in limited-overs cricket, Pakistan has been a top-tier side for over one and a half years now. And for the first time in a long time, has a pool of talent that could carry it for the next 6-7 years.
But ofcourse rather than just admitting that our posters would instead just focus on India. As if Pakistan has anything close to the money, infrastructure, system, and investment that India has/has made cricket.
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Currently India is confused with their tactics, changing the playing xi every match. At least Pakistan has a plan, whether we agree with it or not.
Then how do you win so many bilaterals with eyes closed and resting 6-7 players?
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What a jokes thread
This is the second tournament in which India are out and Pakistan have advanced within a space of 10 months
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This is the second tournament in which India are out and Pakistan have advanced within a space of 10 months
)No they ain't it's a myth.
Only jadeja and Pant have brilliant fitness.
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Pant doesn’t look that fit to me. I would argue that Jadeja and Kohli are the two fittest players in India. I feel many in Pakistan camp look up to Kohli as a benchmark for fitness.
On the other hand, Rohit is looking like a slightly slimmer version of Inzamam. I am a big fan of Rohit dont get me wrong.
Kohli had cramps as well vs Pak and I thought he was the fittest person in Cricket fraternity.. However, Ind does have some unfit players too, have you not seen Rohit or Pant? Khusdil and Ifti in comparison aren't too bad despite Ifti's age LOL.
Also, historically subcontinent teams struggle against short ball, so watch out in the World Cup, not all top edges from Kohli and Pandya will be going for 6s.
Also, historically subcontinent teams struggle against short ball, so watch out in the World Cup, not all top edges from Kohli and Pandya will be going for 6s.
No it is it not a myth. But as players the Indian boys are incredibly overrated.
Because winning bilaterals is no big deal. Bigger is to win world titles which we haven't done in close to a decade now.
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What a stinker of a thread. Another disaster class [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]. We all saw how "good" India was tactically 
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I have wondered about Indian players' fitness recently - looking at the likes of Rohit, Pant, Shami - and wonder if their fitness standards have slipped from their lofty standards to accommodate talent.
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Your guys will have more time to work on tactics and planning as they are free from the Asia cup early.
Tactically Pakistan has been far more superior, sending in Nawaz early and then Shadab in the next match both of which paid off.
India kept their best finisher in the game out of the playing XI and played a bowling all rounder instead who didn't even bowl. Tactically, India have been far more inferior.
Fitness wise there isn't a single Pakistani player less fitter than Rohit Sharma and Pant.
India kept their best finisher in the game out of the playing XI and played a bowling all rounder instead who didn't even bowl. Tactically, India have been far more inferior.
Fitness wise there isn't a single Pakistani player less fitter than Rohit Sharma and Pant.
This is true. Pakistan has beaten us hands down in all departments apart from batting, bowling and fielding.
They've a method and a logic behind the moves they are making which is a refreshing change for a team known world over for how chaotically it takes its cricket since eternity.
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No one look fit except Kohli and Jaddu.
Rohit, Chahal and Pant are poor in Fielding and running.
Rohit, Chahal and Pant are poor in Fielding and running.
Yes they have dropped for sure. Many players have lost or are losing their six packs
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Too much experimentation. 1 death bowler 1 new ball bowler No back up bowler, No proper spin all rounder. No finisher. India went without so many crucial roles. A randomly assembled unit. IN recent times so many openers. So many combination.
Dravid has been saying that he wants to have 2 options for every slot in team. Turns out (in Asia Cup at least) that we didn't even have 1 proper player for any of the slot. Not one of these players could hold his head high.
Also, another aspect which is often forgotten is Rohit's extremely disappointing captaincy. He looked really angry, at times disinterested about the proceedings.
That's not how you captain a cricket team, let alone a team representing a nation of cricket fanatics.
That's not how you captain a cricket team, let alone a team representing a nation of cricket fanatics.
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Kapil Dev on Indian fast bowlers' injuries:
“Now the season extends to more than 10 months. The more you play the more injuries will happen. Cricket is not a simple game. One has to be athletic, use all the muscles and play on different ground conditions, the softness and the hardness. Adapting to everything is not so easy, it takes a toll on the body. So you crack,” he said.
"The more you bowl in the net, the more your muscle will start developing. Today, I am told, that the pacers are allowed to bowl only 30 balls. That's one reason. When they take so much stress to play at the professional level, then the body starts cracking. They have to bowl more than anything else."
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ecent-string-of-injuries-101674383687693.html
“Now the season extends to more than 10 months. The more you play the more injuries will happen. Cricket is not a simple game. One has to be athletic, use all the muscles and play on different ground conditions, the softness and the hardness. Adapting to everything is not so easy, it takes a toll on the body. So you crack,” he said.
"The more you bowl in the net, the more your muscle will start developing. Today, I am told, that the pacers are allowed to bowl only 30 balls. That's one reason. When they take so much stress to play at the professional level, then the body starts cracking. They have to bowl more than anything else."
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ecent-string-of-injuries-101674383687693.html
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Malik said on A sports channel about Pakistan's cricket team fitness:
“Travelling are excuses. The whole world is travelling. Look at India’s calendar. Their pacers didn’t lost pace and swing. It is the professionalism, which is missing in our team,”
“You ask half of them and they would not know how to recover. In the recent past, we didn’t had any ingredient, which can help you to get rid of cramps. We saw that in case of Maxwell, they gave him some gels and he played with severe cramps. It is all excuses. Travelling doesn’t matter."
“Travelling are excuses. The whole world is travelling. Look at India’s calendar. Their pacers didn’t lost pace and swing. It is the professionalism, which is missing in our team,”
“You ask half of them and they would not know how to recover. In the recent past, we didn’t had any ingredient, which can help you to get rid of cramps. We saw that in case of Maxwell, they gave him some gels and he played with severe cramps. It is all excuses. Travelling doesn’t matter."
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