Takeaways from Asia Cup 2023

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Another Asia Cup and another time it feels like a big disappointment. We have a habit of looking down on ourselves rather than giving credit to opposition. I personally feel Sri Lanka played absolutely professionally and this was a very precise run chase. The Lankan batters had Pakistani fielders run into the ground with precise placements.

On Pakistan's Asia Cup its been a big disappointment we only managed wins against Nepal and Bangladesh whilst got dominated by India and beaten by a weak Sri Lankan side. Take it on the chin as this is the reality check the team needs. Given that world cup is around the corner the management would need to sit down and sort out our glaring shortcomings in the Asia Cup, some of those highlighted below.

1. Babar's captaincy - The less said about Babar's captaincy the better as it has been complete shambles and rigid. The guy lacks out of box thinking and doesn't deviate from a plan. He also lacks courage to take important calls during a match, for example in the match with India that was curtailed he opted to bowl Ifti at the start when pressure should have been built by regular bowlers simply because he was scared to bowl Ifti later. I would have preferred a more courageous decision making. Another massive think tank failure in this Asia Cup is decisions at toss. It was quite evident to see Rizwan and Ifti smacking the leather off the ball whilst playing under lights yet we decided to bat during day when the wicket was sticky and lost momentum. I'm quite confident had Pakistan chased they would have won the game as it was a relatively quicker wicket to play under lights. The decision to bat first was because of the drubbing we got against India when we chased. Similarly the decision to bowl against India was largely due to first game where we got their top order out cheaply. If Babar's decision making is always going to be dominated by previous games and shows no regards to current playing conditions then its not going to end well for Pakistan in world cup.

2. Injuries - We are coming out of Asia cup with injuries to Naseem, Haris, Imam and Agha Salman. This was one cursed Asia Cup. These are our XI players and if they are not fully fit going into the world cup then we might not even make to semis. Large responsibility also lies with management who have been playing them continuously even against the likes of Afghanistan and Nepal. If Shaheen gets injured then the entire management needs to be sacked as this is very poor player management already.

3. Shadab's bowling and lacklustre attitude in the field - We are missing the Shadab we had going into T20 world cups a year and 2 years back. Shadab in T20 was fast becoming a matchwinner and here we are where the guy seems lost. People are correctly pointing out to his attitude of not playing first class cricket contributing to this. Regardless we need Shadab on top of his ability going into the world cup. He has been a far consistent bowler but those half trackers and full tosses were becoming a norm which is not good for Pakistan. Secondly Shadab had a terrible Asia Cup in the field as well. The guy dropped 2 chances against India (Kohli and Rahul) at point and they were game changers. Also yesterday gave away 2 free runs which in the hindsight proved to be gold. We need both his bowling and fielding to be at his best going into the world cup.

4. Fakhar being Fakhar - We all know we need Fakhar as this guy is Pakistan's biggest matchwinner after Shaheen. His form is really worrying. The management needs to sit down with Fakhar and give him the confidence going into the world cup. Fakhar needs to understand that with Abdullah, Saim and Imam around there might not be another world cup for him after this. We need Fakhar to get rid of any mental block he has. I'm slightly confident Fakhar will come good in the upcoming world cup as he prefers quicker wickets which he might get in India and which he doesn't get in SL and UAE.

5. Shaheen Shah (overconfidence?) - Someone in our management needs to sit with Shaheen and explain that he is playing international cricket and not club or village cricket where he thinks he would bowl a full swinging delivery and he would get batters out left right and centre. I think Shaheen doesn't give respect to players in his early spell hence end up bowling a lot of drivable balls that get put away. When Shaheen goes back to good lengths he becomes a far superior bowler. Shaheen must himself realise this that batters at other end are some of biggest names in cricket and he would have to work harder each time to get them out.

6. Middle order - What we have got somewhat settled going into the world cup is that Rizwan at 4 and Ifti at 5/6 (depending on the situation). What we still need is someone to bat at 5/6 with Ifti and its likely to be Agha Salman. However if Fakhar continues to fail at top we can try Fakhar at 5 as well (he played an amazing innings vs Aus in T20 semi final from a similar position). Fakhar prefers spin to pace so might not be a bad option but first bite should be Agha.

7. Faheem and other so called allrounders - If we are going to play Faheem in the team in hope for him to be the 4th seamer in the side on a seaming track then we rather play a proper seamer like Zaman or anyone else as they are not going to be much worse than Faheem in batting but will be very superior in bowling. Ideally we should have Shadab at 7 followed by 4 full time bowlers.

8. Second string fast bowlers - I was surprised to see someone like Dahani get a call up ahead of deserving pacers like Arshad Iqbal and Ihsanullah. I understand Ihsanullah might be injured but we have got young bowlers like Hasnain who could be tried. If Haris and Naseem are to be injured then I would prefer to see Zaman and Ihsanullah with Arshad Iqbal as backup bowler if needed.

The last point is for our PCB management and specially Najam Sethi. This Asia Cup was a disaster to say the least. The greed that PCB had associated with India game got us humiliated to no extent. On top of that that greed resulted in extra playing day causing injuries to Haris and Naseem. To top it off Pakistan are out of the Asia Cup and the greed of having an India vs Pakistan final is laid to rest now. Going forward please grow a spine and host our tournament in our country. If for political reasons at other end this cannot be done then simply ask India not to be included but still continue with tournament. If this also fails then take a monetary compensation and step away from hosting position rather than stick with your hosting right and end up becoming a joke.
 
Good post with a lot of good points made.
Due to poor rotation we now have to rely on second stringers which is a worry going into the WC, especially since wasim jr looked so toothless yesterday.

I know that fakhar has won us a lot of games in the past but we must face reality and accept his time is done. Open with abdullah and imam, or if imam is not fit in time try saim ayub, it can't be much worse than a player who looks completely at sea.

Middle order needs stability, saud could come in to strengthen it and can accumulate effectively should we be 2/3 down early.

Shadab needs booting pronto, you simply cannot give 3/4 freebies like that per over in a WC. Imagine doing that against a side like England, they will eat you alive. Usama mir has to be tried, or if you want more batting strength recall Imad.
 
The real takeaway is that unless and until Pakistan gets to play the first choice XIs of the major teams in bilateral white ball cricket, it will continue to get these “reality checks”.

The problem with playing against weakened squads all year long is you overestimate how good you are and then you fish for excuses when things don’t go your way.

The average Pakistani fan and the media thinks that Pakistan is the number 1 team, Babar is the number 1 batsman, Rizwan is the number 1 WK batsman and we have the number 1 fast bowling attack.

In reality, none of the above is remotely true and the rankings would also reflect that if Pakistan were to play regular series against the top sides with their best players available.

Pakistan is not as good as the the captain and the coach think, as the players think and as the fans and media think. As a result, they don’t know how to fix the issues because they don’t accept that they have issues. It is all down to bad luck and this and that and InshAllah we will do better next time.

InshAllah you will fail harder next time because you are not good enough and you can never be good enough until you accept your shortcomings.
 
Asia Cup 2023 has shown us a few things:

1) Rankings are complete jokes. SL are behind BD in ranking yet they manhandled BD and defeated Pakistan. Also, Pakistan's #1 ranking turned out to be a mirage.

2) ACC treats Asia Cup as pretty much a Pakistan-India series. They were so blatant about it that they even had a reserve day for Pak-Ind game.

3) Sri Lanka is not a great place to host a tournament during this time of the year (rain).
 
Excellent points made in the OP. Especially on the greed for extra playing days leading to injuries at a key time before the biggest tournament. Does make the PCB look like a bigger joke than it already is.
 
The real takeaway is that unless and until Pakistan gets to play the first choice XIs of the major teams in bilateral white ball cricket, it will continue to get these “reality checks”.

The problem with playing against weakened squads all year long is you overestimate how good you are and then you fish for excuses when things don’t go your way.

The average Pakistani fan and the media thinks that Pakistan is the number 1 team, Babar is the number 1 batsman, Rizwan is the number 1 WK batsman and we have the number 1 fast bowling attack.

In reality, none of the above is remotely true and the rankings would also reflect that if Pakistan were to play regular series against the top sides with their best players available.

Pakistan is not as good as the the captain and the coach think, as the players think and as the fans and media think. As a result, they don’t know how to fix the issues because they don’t accept that they have issues. It is all down to bad luck and this and that and InshAllah we will do better next time.

InshAllah you will fail harder next time because you are not good enough and you can never be good enough until you accept your shortcomings.

Indian fan rank logic:

If Indian Team, Batsman, or Bowler are #1 in rankings and India then rankings are accurate.

If Pakistan Team, Batsman, or Bowler are #1 in rankings and Pakistan then rankings are inaccurate.

Bonus logic: If India are rank #1 and Pakistan are rank #7, and Pakistan beat India (CT17 final), then rankings are pointless.

In other words, rankings are accurate and relevant for every team, but Pakistan.
 
Medicore list:

Fakhar
Haris
Nawaz
M Wasim
Zaman Khan
Shadab
Imam
Agha
Faheem Ashraf
Tayyab Tahir (how did he even make it into the squad?)

Basically the entire squad :ROFLMAO:
 
Medicore list:

Fakhar
Haris
Nawaz
M Wasim
Zaman Khan
Shadab
Imam
Agha
Faheem Ashraf
Tayyab Tahir (how did he even make it into the squad?)

Basically the entire squad :ROFLMAO:
Imam does not desrve to be in that list i guess, he consistently performed quite well, Although he didn't meet the expected performance levels in this series but I will still include him in the World Cup squad.
 
The biggest problem with the Pakistan team is it does not have proper match winners. Bench strength which is indispensable in modern day cricket is very weak as there is no rotation policy. Same set of players are repeated even against weak sides and almost all key players have failed to perform on key occasions against big teams even after playing so much international cricket. Unless they

1. Shaheen is very good bowler, but he performs in few spells only and mostly with the new ball.

2. Naseem is like a bowling machine who has improved quite a bit but not sure if he can survive in tests or ODIs.

3. Harris Rauf is T20 specialist only, I don't think he can play ODIs. I will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

4. Babar: One of the best batsmen currently but I am still waiting to see his match winning performance in a big tournament & against big team. He has choked most of the time against big team as I believe he becomes too defensive. He should really take some inspiration from Virat Kohli

5. Fakhar: I would say he is the most unreliable player. He never starts with positive intent, plays too defensively in the initial overs which sends wrong message to opposition, but when he settles down after 10-15 overs then he recovers his slow strike rate

6. Spinners (Shadab, Nawaz etc.): Neither they take wickets at regular interval, nor they control flow of runs. I think Pakistan has weakest spin bowling attack amongst all Asian teams
 
Biggest takeaway: India remains the top dog in Asian cricket by a mile no matter how much noise Pakistan makes.

Bro how is this connected to what the thread starter asked?

Let's respect the time and effort he put in making this thread.

Thanks
 
The biggest takeaway from the Asia Cup from team Pakistan is that they should really improve in the middle overs with the ball. If the fast bowlers don't take wickets in the first powerplay then it seems to be lots of trouble for team Pakistan especially with an out of form Shadab Khan with the ball.
 
The real takeaway is that unless and until Pakistan gets to play the first choice XIs of the major teams in bilateral white ball cricket, it will continue to get these “reality checks”.

The problem with playing against weakened squads all year long is you overestimate how good you are and then you fish for excuses when things don’t go your way.

The average Pakistani fan and the media thinks that Pakistan is the number 1 team, Babar is the number 1 batsman, Rizwan is the number 1 WK batsman and we have the number 1 fast bowling attack.

In reality, none of the above is remotely true and the rankings would also reflect that if Pakistan were to play regular series against the top sides with their best players available.

Pakistan is not as good as the the captain and the coach think, as the players think and as the fans and media think. As a result, they don’t know how to fix the issues because they don’t accept that they have issues. It is all down to bad luck and this and that and InshAllah we will do better next time.

InshAllah you will fail harder next time because you are not good enough and you can never be good enough until you accept your shortcomings.
Exactly my point.
Every word you posted above is absolutely true and accurate.
 
Aamir Sohail on Pakistan's Asia Cup debacle:

“We should have won the [close] Super Four match against Sri Lanka. At the same time, we should acknowledge that India played outstanding cricket throughout the Asia Cup and were well-deserved winners.”

“Pakistan missed the killer instinct in the Asia Cup. After restricting India to 66-4 [in group stage match], our team should have gone for the kill but unfortunately our spinners struggled to make inroads,”

“Our openers and spinners could not do well in the Asia Cup for which the support staff should be held responsible. The spinners, particularly in the middle overs, should have given the team breakthroughs, which they could not,”

“Therefore, I think how our spinners bowl, mainly during the middle overs, plus the way our batters handle the opponent team’s spinners will specify Pakistan’s position at the World Cup."

“In this regard, the way the available resources are utilised timely will be the key. Our batters and spinners should complement each other; both should know their targets whether the team is chasing a target or defending a total,” the 57-year-old stated.

“Shadab has performed well for Pakistan and should not be replaced in haste [just before the World Cup],”

“If he could not bowl well in the Asia Cup [or before that], the root cause of the dip in form be looked into and he should be guided by the support staff accordingly.

“To me, Shadab is gripping the ball very tightly which is locking his wrist and as a result he is not getting the spin and delivering [unintentional] full-pitched balls,”

“Yes, both [Test batters] Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel should be selected to the World Cup squad; both of them possess solid technique.”

“Yes, Mohammad Rizwan is doing a fantastic job at this position, tackling spinners smartly in middle overs. There is no need to change.”

“Dr Faisal, who is a very efficient physio and holds vast experience, should be recalled by the PCB. He can definitely handle the matters better. Players in the past were also satisfied with his work,”

“Babar was made [national] captain prematurely, but cannot be abruptly removed from the position. Now after a couple of years, he at a crucial stage needs help and guidance,”

“On his part, Babar as a leader must be proactive to overcome the challenges at the big stage.”
 
“Pakistan missed the killer instinct in the Asia Cup. After restricting India to 66-4 [in group stage match], our team should have gone for the kill but unfortunately our spinners struggled to make inroads,”

Pakistan had so many matches like this in the past, not going for the kill... They need a captain who is ruthless can do this often to win matches.. And for the next ten years i dont see anyone doing that..

Younis khan was last captain who could read the match situation more better and to have that killer instinct going (more from Woolmer schooling), a bit hot headed nut to play with , also was interested to see how Salman butt would turn out but he turned for money..
 
In my opinion, the Asia Cup was a huge lesson for Team Pakistan. The best bowling lineup was thrashed which proved that if you don't give your best in every game no matter what the results are, you can get thrashed if you are not able to handle the pressure. Shaheen looked off-color after he was carefully negotiated and attacked. He should develop his game with a bit older ball as well so he can be lethal during the whole match.
 
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