Tall talks but no promising young batsmen are given opportunites in PSL

[Shafi]

The title says it all.
First of a good number of promising young batsmen were no listed in the PSL draft. Then selected a handful young batsmen for the squad and giving none of them proper chances in the actual league.

How can we unearth any talent?

 

[Hamza_]

No point in selecting Saud Shakeel and Ahsan Ali if you are only gonna play your friends.

 

[Saj]

Rizwam Hussain opened the batting for IU.

No better chance than that.

 

[rhony]

The title says it all.
First of a good number of promising young batsmen were no listed in the PSL draft. Then selected a handful young batsmen for the squad and giving none of them proper chances in the actual league.

How can we unearth any talent?

This PSL is too close to the WC. Obviously there is a priority for the probables. I want to see Pak sending A teams with these new players abroad. They are usually bilateral negotiations.

 

[Shafi]

Rizwam Hussain opened the batting for IU.

No better chance than that.

We mainly need 2 middle order batsmen and couple of 145k fast bowlers and an off spinner.

 

[Hawkeye]

PSL is a private league with private team owners.

It's none of our, or anyone's business, WHO they give a chance to.

Nobody cares about giving 'chances' to 'youngsters' and building players. They want established players who can win them matches and earn money, create hype.


Only ISLU is the exception and they do give chances to new talent.

This isn't Quaid e Azam Trophy.

 

[Sher Khan]

If you look at all the PSL teams Most of the main batsmen are foreign players. Whilst the bowling attacks are made of Pakistani players. A good example Multan sultans and Karachi Kings.

It seems that their is a real dearth of batting talent in Pakistan.

 

[Shafi]

PCB should have its own emerging team which includes promising players of U19 along with those 6 teams. Obliviously PCB doesn't have much interest in building/developing/finding players.

 

[Shafi]

If you look at all the PSL teams Most of the main batsmen are foreign players. Whilst the bowling attacks are made of Pakistani players. A good example Multan sultans and Karachi Kings.

It seems that their is a real dearth of batting talent in Pakistan.

Not really!!! They are only interested in making money.

 

[Savak]

The owners will pick the best players necessary. Developing the youngsters comes second. If the youngsters are not good enough for T20 Cricket then you can't blame the franchises

 

[Usman Chadda]

What kind of rubbish thinking is this? PSL owners are spending money to be a successful franchise, not be a breeding ground for Pakistan cricket.

PSL provides exposure to young players, that should be enough. If any young player wants to break into a PSL side, he has to be good enough. Simple as that.

 

[Shafi]

The owners will pick the best players necessary. Developing the youngsters comes second. If the youngsters are not good enough for T20 Cricket then you can't blame the franchises

What kind of rubbish thinking is this? PSL owners are spending money to be a successful franchise, not be a breeding ground for Pakistan cricket.

PSL provides exposure to young players, that should be enough. If any young player wants to break into a PSL side, he has to be good enough. Simple as that.

So in that case PCB and its staffs (Ehsan Mani, W Akram, Inzamam, Mickey) should not be involved in PSL players draft list and emerging quota rule. Franchises can chose even 11 foreign players/ retired players/ only Pakistan International players with no young player at all.

 

[Khan12]

PSL is a private league with private team owners.

It's none of our, or anyone's business, WHO they give a chance to.

Nobody cares about giving 'chances' to 'youngsters' and building players. They want established players who can win them matches and earn money, create hype.


Only ISLU is the exception and they do give chances to new talent.

This isn't Quaid e Azam Trophy.

Yes with players like pollard, moores, evins, fletcher,sammy,misbah, ifti, sami, fawad ahmed, delport, patel,charles. The list goes on. Majority of these didn't even have a decent international career, bar misbah. In fact a lot of the couldn't even play for their team as they are rubbish. Someone like Umer saddiq is much better then this moores guy. fawad ahmed who couldn't even make attobtabad team now plays as a oversees player.

As someone stated it should be called TTF league. I had lost interest as soon as the draft took place. Oversees players are average at best.

 

[Khan12]

Excellent thread. People always say we don't produce young batsmens. But the reality is all the places are occupied by TTF's and oversees players who won't can't even make their team and the ones who have are average at best. But here they are playing as oversees players.

I hate this 4 oversees players criteria sould be max 2-3. players like raza, fawad, lamachine etc won't even make Pakistan C but, here they are playing to fill in the quota. Perfect example was yesterday when Fawad ahmed was playing over Ashgar. When young players are given chance they bat at 7 or 8, as was Danish Aziz yesterday. He will get 1 opportunity and when inevitably he flops won't be seen again for sometime like Saif Badar.

 

[Oligochaetes]

PSL is a private league with private team owners.

It's none of our, or anyone's business, WHO they give a chance to.

Nobody cares about giving 'chances' to 'youngsters' and building players. They want established players who can win them matches and earn money, create hype.


Only ISLU is the exception and they do give chances to new talent.

This isn't Quaid e Azam Trophy.

True, I agree!

 

[Khan12]

True, I agree!

If so players like Azam Khan shouldn't be finding a place in teams as well as many more.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

It would be great if one u23 pcb team becomes a reality in next PSL, will provide young u19 graduates and former u19 players to establish themselves with the big boys and then franchise can sign the promising players from that team in next season or two. Also this u23 team will provide a chance for the upcoming talent to get noticed by a decent FC team as well.

 

[Khan12]

It would be great if one u23 pcb team becomes a reality in next PSL, will provide young u19 graduates and former u19 players to establish themselves with the big boys and then franchise can sign the promising players from that team in next season or two. Also this u23 team will provide a chance for the upcoming talent to get noticed by a decent FC team as well.

That team will be filled with shakeel sheikh family.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Then a u23 PSL with franchise playing their development squad and then a team shall be made up of those did well in that league.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes with players like pollard, moores, evins, fletcher,sammy,misbah, ifti, sami, fawad ahmed, delport, patel,charles. The list goes on. Majority of these didn't even have a decent international career, bar misbah. In fact a lot of the couldn't even play for their team as they are rubbish. Someone like Umer saddiq is much better then this moores guy. fawad ahmed who couldn't even make attobtabad team now plays as a oversees player.

As someone stated it should be called TTF league. I had lost interest as soon as the draft took place. Oversees players are average at best.

Those players are legends and celebrities in the T20 circuit.

Especially T20 leagues.

So, no, they don't have to be international legends. They create enough hype for their teams and that's what the team owners want. It's a fun league.

Obviously, if you have the right connections, you can still make it to PSL. S Sheikh is one good example, then there is Imam and Shan Masood.

Do you seriously think that Shan and Imam are T20 players? They won't be picked anywhere in the world.

But they have the right connections - with team coaches/captains/owners.

 

[Saj]

PSL teams should be forced to play 2 emerging players in the starting XI:

1 batsman
1 bowler

 

[Khan12]

Those players are legends and celebrities in the T20 circuit.

Especially T20 leagues.

So, no, they don't have to be international legends. They create enough hype for their teams and that's what the team owners want. It's a fun league.

Obviously, if you have the right connections, you can still make it to PSL. S Sheikh is one good example, then there is Imam and Shan Masood.

Do you seriously think that Shan and Imam are T20 players? They won't be picked anywhere in the world.

But they have the right connections - with team coaches/captains/owners.

Yes like fawad ahmed, lamachine etc.

I will take Imam over Fletcher any day of the week was has fletcher done? please remind us it's his 3rd season and is yet to score a fifty i think. You really think Imam couldn't have scored a fifty in 3 years and shan? A guy who averages 14 in international is better then Imam, Hasan Ali averages more then him Plus don't give me his strike rate which is 108 which i am sure both shan and imam can easily manage.

I could care less if anyone picks imam or shan the fact this is our league and we should play them instead of these some of these rubbish players and they deserve to play on merit too.

coming to them using their connections, i hope you stick to your words. What did Misbah use to get selected after being the worst player of PSL by a country mile last year. Let me remind you Imam Ul haq was the highest scorer of national t20 in 2017, i don't think he played 2018 due to national team commitments. So his place is justifiable. What about Misbah what did he do. Let me gues he won his team 2 trophy when being the worst player.

Hypocrisy at it's best.

 

[Khan12]

PSL teams should be forced to play 2 emerging players in the starting XI:

1 batsman
1 bowler

The batsmen shouldn't bat below 4 unless an all rounder. Players like dwaye smith are playing ahead of Saud Shakeel due to the oversees quota.

 

[Hawkeye]

[MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION]

Your logic is flawed, so I won't go in an endless debate. No, Imam and Shan don't deserve to play.

Misbah is a legend, at 44 still the best player yesterday with the highest strike rate in the game, showing others how to bat.

So, save your hatred for someone else.

 

[Theo_14]

What kind of rubbish thinking is this? PSL owners are spending money to be a successful franchise, not be a breeding ground for Pakistan cricket.

PSL provides exposure to young players, that should be enough. If any young player wants to break into a PSL side, he has to be good enough. Simple as that.

The fact they have been selected from the categories would suggest they are good enough in someone’s eyes.

The only way they and we know if they are good enough is once they are given the chance to show that. Let’s face it PSL has hardly been a success story for giving youngsters the correct and right amount of exposure.

 

[Shafi]

PSL teams should be forced to play 2 emerging players in the starting XI:

1 batsman
1 bowler

1. That will be a start but depends as well how many so-called emerging players will be selected through link. We need an honest selector who has an eye for talent hunt and then force each team to select at least 4 emerging players in the squad and play at least 2 of them.
2. Need to reduce foreign quota to 2-3 current performing players so our players will learn something from them not like useless player like Fawad Ahmed
3. There shouldn't be any player over 35 years. Players like Misbah, Hafeez, Malik...... are nothing bur burden
4. Introduce additional PCB U19 emerging team so our players will be used to play pressure cricket.

 

[saeed5646]

What kind of rubbish thinking is this? PSL owners are spending money to be a successful franchise, not be a breeding ground for Pakistan cricket.

PSL provides exposure to young players, that should be enough. If any young player wants to break into a PSL side, he has to be good enough. Simple as that.

PSL is a private league with private team owners.

It's none of our, or anyone's business, WHO they give a chance to.

Nobody cares about giving 'chances' to 'youngsters' and building players. They want established players who can win them matches and earn money, create hype.


Only ISLU is the exception and they do give chances to new talent.

This isn't Quaid e Azam Trophy.

Basically this .

Psl should not be only path for youngster to be selected for pak.There should be more A tours to judge players quality

 

[Khan12]

[MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION]

Your logic is flawed, so I won't go in an endless debate. No, Imam and Shan don't deserve to play.

Misbah is a legend, at 44 still the best player yesterday with the highest strike rate in the game, showing others how to bat.

So, save your hatred for someone else.

Or more like you don't have an answer. What did I say wrong. You saud imam and when used their connections, which they might have at least they should be there anyway. All I said misbah must have used it too since he was the worst player last year. I don't know how this is a flawed logic. Please enlighten us with us logic.

 

[Usman Chadda]

So in that case PCB and its staffs (Ehsan Mani, W Akram, Inzamam, Mickey) should not be involved in PSL players draft list and emerging quota rule. Franchises can chose even 11 foreign players/ retired players/ only Pakistan International players with no young player at all.

They can, but they are doing a favour to Pakistan cricket by picking emerging players. You are asking people who have spent millions to create an attractive brand, to fret about playing young players, who only a handful of Pakistan fans care about anyway. Any casual fan doesn't care about watching a Muhammad Husnain or a Rizwan Hussain. They care about watching well known players playing their favourite format for some good entertainment.

What you are asking for PSL franchises is not realistic at all, and I believe you're too young to actually understand how much money is involved here.

 

[Khan12]

They can, but they are doing a favour to Pakistan cricket by picking emerging players. You are asking people who have spent millions to create an attractive brand, to fret about playing young players, who only a handful of Pakistan fans care about anyway. Any casual fan doesn't care about watching a Muhammad Husnain or a Rizwan Hussain. They care about watching well known players playing their favourite format for some good entertainment.

What you are asking for PSL franchises is not realistic at all, and I believe you're too young to actually understand how much money is involved here.

A lot of the emerging players are better then some of the so so called "stars".

 

[Usman Chadda]

The fact they have been selected from the categories would suggest they are good enough in someone’s eyes.

The only way they and we know if they are good enough is once they are given the chance to show that. Let’s face it PSL has hardly been a success story for giving youngsters the correct and right amount of exposure.

PSL will never be about giving chances to youngsters. The fact that it has given it to a few should be a success story there and then. You want franchise owners to give two hoots about Saud Shakeel or Saad Ali's chances of playing international cricket? They don't and they won't, and they are well within their rights to pick eleven retired cricketers if they so wish.

Pakistan fans need something to whine about every second of the day. It's something built into their DNA, rather than actually understand what exactly is going on.

 

[Usman Chadda]

A lot of the emerging players are better then some of the so so called "stars".

That's subjective, and is a decision for the team management of the respective franchises. You can't bash everyone from Ehsan Mani to the Tapal Danedar chaye walay, for not giving youngsters chances.

 

[Shafi]

They can, but they are doing a favour to Pakistan cricket by picking emerging players. You are asking people who have spent millions to create an attractive brand, to fret about playing young players, who only a handful of Pakistan fans care about anyway. Any casual fan doesn't care about watching a Muhammad Husnain or a Rizwan Hussain. They care about watching well known players playing their favourite format for some good entertainment.

What you are asking for PSL franchises is not realistic at all, and I believe you're too young to actually understand how much money is involved here.

Any Sakil Sheikh and Azam khan are emerging talent? and Inzi did a great job by selecting them into draft.

Do you know what is the reason of our cricket declining and far behind from India is the lack of honesty in every level.
And if you are talking about causal fans then think about Double wicket of six-a-side tournament which are more entertaining and more money involve in 3-4 days than a month long a Nepotism league.

 

[Shafi]

PSL will never be about giving chances to youngsters. The fact that it has given it to a few should be a success story there and then. You want franchise owners to give two hoots about Saud Shakeel or Saad Ali's chances of playing international cricket? They don't and they won't, and they are well within their rights to pick eleven retired cricketers if they so wish.

Pakistan fans need something to whine about every second of the day. It's something built into their DNA, rather than actually understand what exactly is going on.

That's why PSL will be always 2nd division league behind IPL, BBL. Don't hype of the quality of this league as good or better as IPL. It is as par as CPL or BPL.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Any Sakil Sheikh and Azam khan are emerging talent? and Inzi did a great job by selecting them into draft.

Do you know what is the reason of our cricket declining and far behind from India is the lack of honesty in every level.
And if you are talking about causal fans then think about Double wicket of six-a-side tournament which are more entertaining and more money involve in 3-4 days than a month long a Nepotism league.

What are you blabbering about?

Arsal Sheikh was selected by a franchise. It's their decision and they are well within their rights to select whoever they want to. You are whining because Inzamam selected Arsal Sheikh and Azam Khan in the draft, while conveniently ignoring the fact that it is the franchise's decision to select the player at the end of the day.

The fact that you think Pakistan cricket is declining because franchises are not picking your favourite youngsters, says more about you than the people you are accusing of being dishonest here.

Not even going to respond to that double wicket rubbish, as it's not relevant at all to this discussion.

 

[Abdullah719]

Any Sakil Sheikh and Azam khan are emerging talent? and Inzi did a great job by selecting them into draft.

Do you know what is the reason of our cricket declining and far behind from India is the lack of honesty in every level.
And if you are talking about causal fans then think about Double wicket of six-a-side tournament which are more entertaining and more money involve in 3-4 days than a month long a Nepotism league.

Arsal Sheikh? Which team is he in?

 

[Usman Chadda]

That's why PSL will be always 2nd division league behind IPL, BBL. Don't hype of the quality of this league as good or better as IPL. It is as par as CPL or BPL.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. But don't bash the league unnecessarily

 

[Markhor]

Some people seemed to take umbrage when I made this criticism of PSL before the start of the tournament. It's time fans stop thinking of PSL as a breeding ground for young talent. The purpose is to make money - everything else is a bonus.

These franchises give lip service to youth development but they'll select the same old journeymen cricketers who arguably aren't even as good as some of the homegrown talent. If it wasn't for the four foreigners rule - would Fawad Ahmed really be picked ahead of Mohammad Asghar ?

 

[Shafi]

What are you blabbering about?

Arsal Sheikh was selected by a franchise. It's their decision and they are well within their rights to select whoever they want to. You are whining because Inzamam selected Arsal Sheikh and Azam Khan in the draft, while conveniently ignoring the fact that it is the franchise's decision to select the player at the end of the day.

The fact that you think Pakistan cricket is declining because franchises are not picking your favourite youngsters, says more about you than the people you are accusing of being dishonest here.

Not even going to respond to that double wicket rubbish, as it's not relevant at all to this discussion.

I have nothing favorite about young players but selecting same old TTFS or out of flavored players will not do any good for our cricket.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I have nothing favorite about young players but selecting same old TTFS or out of flavored players will not do any good for our cricket.

This tournament has nothing to do with improving Pakistan cricket. The goal is to make money and to create a brand. Try to understand that, rather than whine 24/7 about something you clearly do not have the capability to understand.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Excellent thread. People always say we don't produce young batsmens. But the reality is all the places are occupied by TTF's and oversees players who won't can't even make their team and the ones who have are average at best. But here they are playing as oversees players.

I hate this 4 oversees players criteria sould be max 2-3. players like raza, fawad, lamachine etc won't even make Pakistan C but, here they are playing to fill in the quota. Perfect example was yesterday when Fawad ahmed was playing over Ashgar. When young players are given chance they bat at 7 or 8, as was Danish Aziz yesterday. He will get 1 opportunity and when inevitably he flops won't be seen again for sometime like Saif Badar.

I remember Saif Badar got 1 or 2 opportunities at no.3 as welll and he looked completely out of sorts... Cant handle the int'l pressure i guess

 

[Khan12]

I remember Saif Badar got 1 or 2 opportunities at no.3 as welll and he looked completely out of sorts... Cant handle the int'l pressure i guess

He got 1 opportunity at 3 and that was out of the blue, while the likes of ifti, misbah keep getting selected after tons of failures.

 

[Shafi]

]This tournament has nothing to do with improving Pakistan cricket. [/B]The goal is to make money and to create a brand. Try to understand that, rather than whine 24/7 about something you clearly do not have the capability to understand.

Same thing happening in our all leagues. So its time to accept that we are not good enough as Mamoon said or there is no talent as Afridi said before.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Same thing happening in our all leagues. So its time to accept that we are not good enough as Mamoon said or there is no talent as Afridi said before.

Then stop following Pakistan cricket. Atleast don't become a headache for the rest of us with your constant whining.

 

[Major]

lately been seeing alot of dumb posts around the forum.

There is already a requirement for 1 emerging in the playing 11, and thats it.

Teams will obviously not play 2 or 3 emerging players because its risky.

PSL teams are not here to give youngster chances, they are here to win. IT doesnt matter if its an oldie or a youngster as long as favourable results are coming in.

 

[Major]

you wana watch merging talent, go watch u19 or domestic leagues. THank you.

PSL is not the national teams demo league. THere are many stakeholders involved.

 

[Khan12]

Nothing more dumb then thinking Misbah won PSL for Islamabad last year.

 

[Hasan123]

All yall talking about brand are clueless. How is signing Dwayne Smith and Andre Fletcher developing a brand ? )

They are rubbish players now. The way you develop a brand is by signing players who are improving and at least have a chance of playing international cricket or have been successful at intentional level. The average Pakistan fan would rather see new players than someone like Salt or Fletcher that they have never heard off.

Marketing experts on this forum seem to have no clue about marketing.

The most successful T20 league the IPLs franchises are known for their Indian players being associated with certain franchises. That tells you all you need to know.

 

[barah_admi]

The title says it all.
First of a good number of promising young batsmen were no listed in the PSL draft. Then selected a handful young batsmen for the squad and giving none of them proper chances in the actual league.

How can we unearth any talent?

There's a number of young batsmen in the psl. Many of them in their early to mid twenties.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He got 1 opportunity at 3 and that was out of the blue, while the likes of ifti, misbah keep getting selected after tons of failures.

Saw him last season, looked as he is not ready for int'l cricket yet .. need more A team tours with runs under the belt

 

[ask_analyse_act]

All yall talking about brand are clueless. How is signing Dwayne Smith and Andre Fletcher developing a brand ? )

They are rubbish players now. The way you develop a brand is by signing players who are improving and at least have a chance of playing international cricket or have been successful at intentional level. The average Pakistan fan would rather see new players than someone like Salt or Fletcher that they have never heard off.

Marketing experts on this forum seem to have no clue about marketing.

The most successful T20 league the IPLs franchises are known for their Indian players being associated with certain franchises. That tells you all you need to know.

Yes indeed... So far except Rizwan Hussain the hack there are no chances for any other young batsman...

Hafeez and Malik making sure their teams play bowlers as emerging talents not batsmen...

Ali shafiq though had a good game against IU today...

 

[Hasan123]

Yes indeed... So far except Rizwan Hussain the hack there are no chances for any other young batsman...

Hafeez and Malik making sure their teams play bowlers as emerging talents not batsmen...

Ali shafiq though had a good game against IU today...

I want to see more young batters being played. But franchises back rubbish overseas players and average local talent.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I want to see more young batters being played. But franchises back rubbish overseas players and average local talent.

I believe thats the captain making the decisions on selections mostly except MA and DJ... Why because I dont think either the franchises or the coaching staff have not seen or known about the young talents whereas the captains know about them as they stand behind them in line to grab the national cap...

 

[Saj]

Also it's fair to say that IU have always been the best franchise for giving young Pakistani players a chance.

 

[Finisher]

Still the same faces playing

 

[xricket]

Same old losers & tested failures, with very few new faces. Disgusting to see those failures/hacks making to national team by succeeding in a match after plenty of chances, while the others aren't even given same chances

 

[Savak]

It took the IPL a good 10 plus years before the rewards in terms of Indian Domestic Cricket, Maturity in the new Indian players from a technical and fitness point of view started to show. We need to show a similar level of patience with the PSL and the salaries in the PSL need to go up to increase the incentive for players. When life changing sums of money are on offer, only then will that self interest factor really kick in.

 

[Shafi]

lately been seeing alot of dumb posts around the forum.

There is already a requirement for 1 emerging in the playing 11, and thats it.

Teams will obviously not play 2 or 3 emerging players because its risky.

PSL teams are not here to give youngster chances, they are here to win. IT doesnt matter if its an oldie or a youngster as long as favourable results are coming in.

We support team Pakistan not individual performances local clubs. People like you wants to see a 100 or 50 from your favorite players even though they play match loosing selfish innings. We prefer win over any personal record.

 

[Darkrai]

The main goal of the franchises is to win the PSL, not to give chances to every youngster they have. The youngsters need to grab the chances they get like Haris seems to have. Franchises are required to play 1 emerging player so at the very least 6 youngsters will get a chance, or more. They need to prove themselves.

 

[Major]

We support team Pakistan not individual performances local clubs. People like you wants to see a 100 or 50 from your favorite players even though they play match loosing selfish innings. We prefer win over any personal record.

Doesnt matter what you support, you dont own a PSL team at the end of the day

The PSL team owners will look at what will benefit them.

PSL is not a U19 league or emerging cricketers league.

 

[Major]

The main goal of the franchises is to win the PSL, not to give chances to every youngster they have. The youngsters need to grab the chances they get like Haris seems to have. Franchises are required to play 1 emerging player so at the very least 6 youngsters will get a chance, or more. They need to prove themselves.

bro, dnt expect logic or rationality from some posters here.

They dont understand what return on investment is.

They think that a person should buy shares in millions of ruppees and they should play according to the benefit of the national team and overlook their own benefits.

 

[Hasan123]

bro, dnt expect logic or rationality from some posters here.

They dont understand what return on investment is.

They think that a person should buy shares in millions of ruppees and they should play according to the benefit of the national team and overlook their own benefits.

You do know it's possible to develop youth and win at the same time ? Furthermore why do IPL franchises promote Indian players if it's not important?

How does signing rubbish overseas players build a brand? )

 

[Shafi]

Doesnt matter what you support, you dont own a PSL team at the end of the day

The PSL team owners will look at what will benefit them.

PSL is not a U19 league or emerging cricketers league.

So how Ahmed Shehzad, Fawad Ahmed, Hafeez, S Raza, Fletcher are performing with the bat?

 

[Shafi]

bro, dnt expect logic or rationality from some posters here.

They dont understand what return on investment is.

They think that a person should buy shares in millions of ruppees and they should play according to the benefit of the national team and overlook their own benefits.

Also your logic doesn't make any sense. first you are saying franchises select players to win matches but most of the foreign players and a good number of domestic players are really under performer.

What is the credential to select players like Arshal Sheikh, Azam Khan, Fawad Ahmed, Fletcher.....? Are they really talented to win matches over performer like Saud Shakeel, Nasir Nawaz etc.

 

[Shafi]

You do know it's possible to develop youth and win at the same time ? Furthermore why do IPL franchises promote Indian players if it's not important?

How does signing rubbish overseas players build a brand? )

He doesn't understand any logic and blindly support whom Misbah select whether its Sajid Ali or Arshal Sheikh. Because according to him Franchises are well aware the hidden talents of players like them whether they failed many times.

 

[Hasan123]

He doesn't understand any logic and blindly support whom Misbah select whether its Sajid Ali or Arshal Sheikh. Because according to him Franchises are well aware the hidden talents of players like them whether they failed many times.

Posters on here have no idea about brands and marketing. All sports teams look to develop youth and players from their own country.

How does signing rubbish overseas players build a brand?

 

[AAli98]

Batting talent coming through is at an all time low, hence above average players like Fakhar seem like gilchhrist/Hayden. Baba = lara kohli richards all rolled into one.

 

[Shafi]

Batting talent coming through is at an all time low, hence above average players like Fakhar seem like gilchhrist/Hayden. Baba = lara kohli richards all rolled into one.

Because no young batsmen are given opportunities to prove. Most of them are bowlers but even they are not selected properly.

 

[Shafi]

Batting talent coming through is at an all time low, hence above average players like Fakhar seem like gilchhrist/Hayden. Baba = lara kohli richards all rolled into one.

Most of the posters here are like parrot and copying others' talk about brand and marketing.
Its like AMD and Intel processor. AMD processor sellers will always boast about their products so as their loyal/tricked buyers.

 

[Shafi]

Here is one example of brand player where Franchises want to invest millions of rupees for bigger return

 

[Major]

Fawad Ahmed just took 3 wickets

Dwayne SMith is a good batsmen if used as an opener

Andre Fletcher has been performing in T20, the guy has an avg of 28 which is great in t20. Plus hes a keeper.

 

[Abdullah719]

Here is one example of brand player where Franchises want to invest millions of rupees for bigger return
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Arsal Sheikh is not in any PSL squad.

 

[Major]

Arsal Sheikh is not in any PSL squad.

the psl squads have been chosen based on the best availible players.

Only the Azam Khan selection is questionable as it was made just for Moin khan

 

[Shafi]

the psl squads have been chosen based on the best availible players.

Only the Azam Khan selection is questionable as it was made just for Moin khan

Last year 2018!!!!!

 

[Abdullah719]

the psl squads have been chosen based on the best availible players.

Only the Azam Khan selection is questionable as it was made just for Moin khan

I wouldn't say best available players.

But teams do have a propensity to select tried and tested players, even if they are a). not very good or b). not in form over younger players who can potentially do better, but are viewed as 'risky' investments.

 

[Major]

I wouldn't say best available players.

But teams do have a propensity to select tried and tested players, even if they are a). not very good or b). not in form over younger players who can potentially do better, but are viewed as 'risky' investments.

To be honest, even Ronchi is a tried and tested. THe guy isn't that good in other leagues and isn't good enough to be drafted by an IPL team.

SO should teams not select him just because he is tried and tested? Even though he could whack pakistani bowlers easily

 

[Abdullah719]

To be honest, even Ronchi is a tried and tested. THe guy isn't that good in other leagues and isn't good enough to be drafted by an IPL team.

SO should teams not select him just because he is tried and tested? Even though he could whack pakistani bowlers easily

Ronchi's record in T20s is pretty good. Of course, he's been performing way beyond expectations but even if he averaged 25 @ 150 as his stats go, he'd be a success.

 

[Major]

Ronchi's record in T20s is pretty good. Of course, he's been performing way beyond expectations but even if he averaged 25 @ 150 as his stats go, he'd be a success.

then why isnt he good enough to be auctioned in IPL?

 

[Shafi]

then why isnt he good enough to be auctioned in IPL?

Because in IPL, mostly local players get selected through merit where in PSL whom you know. No way PSL will select player like nobody (Kashmir reign kid selected by IPL Franchise for millions) without have any support back ground. You will see neither of Saud or Nasir will be playing not more than 2 games (If they are extremely lucky)

 

[Major]

Because in IPL, mostly local players get selected through merit where in PSL whom you know. No way PSL will select player like nobody (Kashmir reign kid selected by IPL Franchise for millions) without have any support back ground. You will see neither of Saud or Nasir will be playing not more than 2 games (If they are extremely lucky)

so you justify praveen tambe's selection?