Terence Crutcher, black man shot by Tulsa police, was unarmed

[Muhammad10]

The head of police in Tulsa in the US state of Oklahoma says a black man shot dead by officers on Friday was unarmed.

Authorities are investigating the death of Terence Crutcher, 40, who had his hands in the air when he was shot next to his car, relatives say.

Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan said "there was no gun on the suspect or in the suspect's vehicle" and promised justice would be achieved.

Police say they will release a dash cam recording of the shooting.

Officers came across Mr Crutcher's stalled vehicle while they were en route to another call, reports say.

Disturbing footage from a police helicopter of the moment Mr Crutcher was shot appears to back up his family's assertion that his hands were in the air at all times.

He was first tasered and then shot. He died later in hospital, police said.

Mr Crutcher's twin sister Tiffany called for protests over his death to be peaceful, and demanded criminal charges be filed against the officer who fatally shot him.

A series of high-profile incidents involving African-Americans dying at the hands of police have led to demonstrations across the US.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37413558

 

[Muhammad10]

Apparently one of these 'cops' said Terence "looked like a really bad dude".

Then certain Americans have the audacity to whine when NFL players protest against racial oppression and bloodthirsty, racist cops.

 

[dayvancowboy]

Jeez this will never end.

 

[saeedhk]

The U.S police force is the worst force in the whole world including developing nations. Having lived in Hong Kong, it is difficult to imagine how people can live in country where you can be gunned down for no apparent reason. The U.S seems a very dangerous, scary place.

 

[GenericBrand]

"He looked like a bad guy"

They sure know how to pick em

 

[Thivagar]

Don't be surprised when more white cops get killed because of this. This has been going on for a very long time, this is not new, only now people have started noticing them. There is a documentary on a Black NFL player who discovers his biological father, when he gets there, he finds out that his father was shot and murdered by his white neighbor over a verbal argument and the judge lets his neighbour walk free. You can even see the old man drive by this player.

 

[Pakistanian]

Don't be surprised when more white cops get killed because of this. This has been going on for a very long time, this is not new, only now people have started noticing them. There is a documentary on a Black NFL player who discovers his biological father, when he gets there, he finds out that his father was shot and murdered by his white neighbor over a verbal argument and the judge lets his neighbour walk free. You can even see the old man drive by this player.

Name the movie bruh, sounds interesting.

 

[Pakistanian]

The U.S police force is the worst force in the whole world including developing nations. Having lived in Hong Kong, it is difficult to imagine how people can live in country where you can be gunned down for no apparent reason. The U.S seems a very dangerous, scary place.

It's very safe for the most part, shootings like this happen occasionally but in certain areas. Generally for a Pakistani-American it's not bad at all.

 

[saeedhk]

It's very safe for the most part, shootings like this happen occasionally but in certain areas. Generally for a Pakistani-American it's not bad at all.

It certainly doesn't seem that way to outsiders!

 

[Pakistanian]

It certainly doesn't seem that way to outsiders!

It's one of the safest countries in the world, it's not perfect but let me tell you, I've walked many times by myself as late as 2 am as a young man of color and fortunately have never been mugged, harassed by police or shot by paranoid homeowners and I live in a very conservative state with high gun ownership, make of it what you will.

 

[saeedhk]

It's one of the safest countries in the world, it's not perfect but let me tell you, I've walked many times by myself as late as 2 am as a young man of color and fortunately have never been mugged, harassed by police or shot by paranoid homeowners and I live in a very conservative state with high gun ownership, make of it what you will.

Definitely not one of the safest, at least for me.

 

[JaDed]

Offlate there seems to be passive discrimination against brown people no doubt but black people defn bear the brunt of it also tbf some of the blacks are very biased against white and brown people as well,they too in areas mingle only with their own kind.

TBF to Americans they still give a lot of right and justice opportunities to everyone that feels discriminated which is what each society should thrive for,Americans have a huge number of immigrants who are thriving don't think anyone can deny that.

 

[Pure Evil]

most of the guys commenting here have problem never been to the USA. How about living there for a few years and then sharing your opinion?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Definitely not one of the safest, at least for me.

US is very safe man. You can take the subway late night and won't get into trouble. US is also a much more fun place than Hong Kong

 

[dhump]

most of the guys commenting here have problem never been to the USA. How about living there for a few years and then sharing your opinion?

Comparisons are not wrong some of us lives in societies where we are protected by Police and not threatens. We dont have to live in US to draw this comparison and give our feedback.

Right ?

 

[Thivagar]

Name the movie bruh, sounds interesting.

 

[Pure Evil]

Comparisons are not wrong some of us lives in societies where we are protected by Police and not threatens. We dont have to live in US to draw this comparison and give our feedback.

Right ?

And do are all cops in the USA vying for blood? There are posters here calling USA dangerous and unsafe. There is a strong gun-culture in areas of the USA and the cops are trigger-happy in those areas. But to say, you will probably be shot at because you happen to be there is not being ingenuous.

 

[sshakir411]

most of the guys commenting here have problem never been to the USA. How about living there for a few years and then sharing your opinion?

+1...this is typical. The same people will not think twice if they got a chance to move to the US lol. The funniest are the Canadians though...their comments on the US are HILARIOUS, minor nation.

 

[Thivagar]

+1...this is typical. The same people will not think twice if they got a chance to move to the US lol. The funniest are the Canadians though...their comments on the US are HILARIOUS, minor nation.

US is a brainwashed nation since most of their medias are well controlled by big corporate and military hardware manufacturers. Our media isn't, so our people aren't dumb as the Americans. Explain what is a "minor nation" ?

 

[Pure Evil]

US is a brainwashed nation since most of their medias are well controlled by big corporate and military hardware manufacturers. Our media isn't, so our people aren't dumb as the Americans. Explain what is a "minor nation" ?

Bhai this brainwashed nation still is the research hub of the world and a leader in the areas of science and technology. Its a bit rich, that we ignore the contribution of the nation to other fields, but look at selective examples to criticize it.

PS: I have nothing against Canada and not defending the comments against it.

 

[sshakir411]

US is a brainwashed nation since most of their medias are well controlled by big corporate and military hardware manufacturers. Our media isn't, so our people aren't dumb as the Americans. Explain what is a "minor nation" ?

lol. have you ever lived in the US? or has tv given you the opinion that people are brainwashed?


Minor nation = a nation that is far far behind in ALL aspects to the US. Name me one thing Canada has done better than the US?

 

[sshakir411]

and for the record...I like Canada. Tdot in particular..always found it to be a very diverse city with good night life and great Asian food.

 

[shaz619]

This is Awesome! This is Awesome! it's refreshing to see a feud between the USA and Canada for once, got bored of Pak v Ind

 

[shaz619]

And look, many may not be from America but the general consensus is that forces in places like the UK etc are a lot more objective. It most certainly is a big American problem, calling Canada tiny won't change that...

 

[Muhammad10]

And look, many may not be from America but the general consensus is that forces in places like the UK etc are a lot more objective. It most certainly is a big American problem, calling Canada tiny won't change that...

Exactly. Hilarious to see certain apologists diverting from the issue at hand by gloating about American achievements in science, research, technology, etc and mocking other nations. None of these superficial achievements can give these African American families their unjustifiably murdered loved ones back.

 

[shaz619]

Exactly. Hilarious to see certain apologists diverting from the issue at hand by gloating about American achievements in science, research, technology, etc and mocking other nations. None of these superficial achievements can give these African American families their unjustifiably murdered loved ones back.

Top post, that is so true. Am not sure why people get so defensive, if push came to shove their government would care not for their nationalism and squash them like a bug. True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.

 

[sshakir411]

The minor nation comment was form Borat for all those that didn't know and got offended.

While racist cops do exist and are responsible for some of the recent killings of innocent civilians, people here have no idea about the African American community and what they do in places like Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. Majority of the 'Black Lives Matter' protesters are paid to show up and have no connection to the movement. I have been asked twice to protest for them for a mere $50 a protest.

African American gangs were responsible for the murder of 3000 people 2 weeks ago on a long weekend (labor day holiday) in Chicago alone. Majority of the killings were for petty cash, cars, and/or in many cases no reason at all. A police officer (white) was recently stabbed by a 11 year old black kid when he was trying to help him get back home. The police in such areas is always more suspicious of black males in particular and will take action if the suspect does not comply with all they say, and majority never comply.

While I agree on some of the gun control arguments, people need to understand that majority of the crime in any city stems from the African American community, who by coincidence, happen to be the only community that is cared and provided for the most by the government (food stamps, homeless shelters, etc..). What the African American community faces today in the US is largely because of themselves.

The recent incident is sad and the police force should be held accountable and the officer punished, but the issue is far deeper than people know of.

 

[www787]

most of the guys commenting here have problem never been to the USA. How about living there for a few years and then sharing your opinion?

Numbers and stat don't lie, this problem only exist in US and no where else in first world country.

 

[www787]

The minor nation comment was form Borat for all those that didn't know and got offended.

While racist cops do exist and are responsible for some of the recent killings of innocent civilians, people here have no idea about the African American community and what they do in places like Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. Majority of the 'Black Lives Matter' protesters are paid to show up and have no connection to the movement. I have been asked twice to protest for them for a mere $50 a protest.


African American gangs were responsible for the murder of 3000 people 2 weeks ago on a long weekend (labor day holiday) in Chicago alone. Majority of the killings were for petty cash, cars, and/or in many cases no reason at all. A police officer (white) was recently stabbed by a 11 year old black kid when he was trying to help him get back home. The police in such areas is always more suspicious of black males in particular and will take action if the suspect does not comply with all they say, and majority never comply.

While I agree on some of the gun control arguments, people need to understand that majority of the crime in any city stems from the African American community, who by coincidence, happen to be the only community that is cared and provided for the most by the government (food stamps, homeless shelters, etc..). What the African American community faces today in the US is largely because of themselves.

The recent incident is sad and the police force should be held accountable and the officer punished, but the issue is far deeper than people know of.

3000 in two weeks in Chicago? Can you back that up? Sound overly inflated number.

 

[Pakistanian]

US is a brainwashed nation since most of their medias are well controlled by big corporate and military hardware manufacturers. Our media isn't, so our people aren't dumb as the Americans. Explain what is a "minor nation" ?

Duuude Canada is America-Lite in actuality, Americans corps run Canada's economy and your media is controlled by the same interest groups moreover your biggest news network is the state-run CBC, talk about brainwashing loool.

Won't call your country a minor nation, it's on par with the state of California if that sounds better

 

[Pakistanian]

Bhai this brainwashed nation still is the research hub of the world and a leader in the areas of science and technology. Its a bit rich, that we ignore the contribution of the nation to other fields, but look at selective examples to criticize it.

PS: I have nothing against Canada and not defending the comments against it.

I know we're #1 but you're off the tangent bruuh, police brutality is an issue and Black lives should matter that's why I stand with my homeboy Kaepernick.

 

[sshakir411]

3000 in two weeks in Chicago? Can you back that up? Sound overly inflated number.

3000 is actually for the entire Midwest which includes Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio since 4th of July. I believe it's probably higher than that now

Here's a recent report on Chicago's violence alone, 2000 shooting victims (not including any other gang related murder)...http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/us/chicago-violence-july-4/

Also, these are what's reported. I live in Detroit and half of the stuff isn't reported until like months later.

 

[PakLFC]

Why is this not "terrorism" then? Most likely because the killer was a policeman and most probably non-Muslim. Now had the perpetrator or victim been Muslim it would have been Islam's fault!! If Trump wins the election there could be civil war in America. Mind you, Hilary is no angel either.

 

[dhump]

And do are all cops in the USA vying for blood? There are posters here calling USA dangerous and unsafe. There is a strong gun-culture in areas of the USA and the cops are trigger-happy in those areas. But to say, you will probably be shot at because you happen to be there is not being ingenuous.

1207 Killed by cops in 2015 in USA

2 Killed by cops in 2015 in Germany
Both men actually stabbed police men with a knife

Compare and you can see why people are bothered and consider US unsafe...and the cops very very unprofessional.

 

[Pakistanian]

1207 Killed by cops in 2015 in USA

2 Killed by cops in 2015 in Germany
Both men actually stabbed police men with a knife

Compare and you can see why people are bothered and consider US unsafe...and the cops very very unprofessional.

A little factoid:

USA population: 320 million

Germany population: 80 million

 

[sshakir411]

You will be branded racist for saying this.

it's a fact...anyone who has dealt with the Black community in the US will agree to that. They go around selling food stamps worth over $100 (to be used only for food and groceries) for $25 weed money

 

[Pakistanian]

it's a fact...anyone who has dealt with the Black community in the US will agree to that. They go around selling food stamps worth over $100 (to be used only for food and groceries) for $25 weed money

It's true they have a deep problem in their community however you can't deny that the police fears their complexion, I mean we can't all forget the Black Indian guy that was paralyzed by the cop in 'Bama cause they thought he was Black.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alabama-cop-indian-grandfather-trial_us_55e8d0dae4b03784e2756b0c

 

[sshakir411]

It's true they have a deep problem in their community however you can't deny that the police fears their complexion, I mean we can't all forget the Black Indian guy that was paralyzed by the cop in 'Bama cause they thought he was Black.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alabama-cop-indian-grandfather-trial_us_55e8d0dae4b03784e2756b0c

I agree. I'm not against the Black community. A lot of them suffer because of the actions of a few and police brutality is also a fact. While I think America will overcome the police brutality issue in the next few years, Black community has a long way to go to bring about a proper change in the people. Middle class African Americans are on the rise though, and it's only a good thing.

 

[Muhammad10]

A little factoid:

USA population: 320 million

Germany population: 80 million

320,000,000/80,000,000 = 4

1207/4 = 301.75

If you are going to use the US population as some kind of an excuse, the German police still killed some 300 fewer people than they would have if they killed at the American police's rate in 2015, taking the smaller size of their population into account. #Maths

 

[Pakistanian]

320,000,000/80,000,000 = 4

1207/4 = 301.75

If you are going to use the US population as some kind of an excuse, the German police still killed some 300 fewer people than they would have if they killed at the American police's rate in 2015, taking the smaller size of their population into account. #Maths

World War 2 baby!!! If America didn't save germany you guys would be speaking nazi. I don't get all the hate America gets.

 

[Muhammad10]

World War 2 baby!!! If America didn't save germany you guys would be speaking nazi. I don't get all the hate America gets.

Who on earth are you referring to as "you guys"? I've never even set foot in Germany, let alone living there or being a German.

 

[Pakistanian]

Who on earth are you referring to as "you guys"? I've never even set foot in Germany, let alone living there or being a German.

So you have not been to Germany yet know it's safer than America? I rest my case, bud.

 

[Muhammad10]

So you have not been to Germany yet know it's safer than America? I rest my case, bud.

I was simply referring to what I assumed to be the factual figures provided by [MENTION=38994]dhump[/MENTION], who lives in Germany.
Nothing too complicated, really.

 

[Pure Evil]

1207 Killed by cops in 2015 in USA

2 Killed by cops in 2015 in Germany
Both men actually stabbed police men with a knife

Compare and you can see why people are bothered and consider US unsafe...and the cops very very unprofessional.

And could you compare the amount of violent crimes which happen in the USA? Fact remains Black and Mexican gangs are the primary agents of violence in different parts of the USA. Do you see the support that the cops get from ordinary white civilians? Or do you think everyone there is a racist?

 

[Pure Evil]

I know we're #1 but you're off the tangent bruuh, police brutality is an issue and Black lives should matter that's why I stand with my homeboy Kaepernick.

Yes brah, we are #1, but black gangs also indulge in a lot of violence. Lets not ignore facts please.

 

[Pure Evil]

Numbers and stat don't lie, this problem only exist in US and no where else in first world country.

And the USA is bigger, more populated and has liberal gun laws than most first world countries. Europe does not have liberal gun laws, so the cops are not edgy. You will see a difference in cop behavior in different parts of the USA, infact even within the states. It really depends on the region and the frequency of violence from people of color.

 

[shaz619]

I agree. I'm not against the Black community. A lot of them suffer because of the actions of a few and police brutality is also a fact. While I think America will overcome the police brutality issue in the next few years, Black community has a long way to go to bring about a proper change in the people. Middle class African Americans are on the rise though, and it's only a good thing.

It's very easy to single out a particular community when they are victims of racial biases and narrow minded bigotry, pointing out the very "black" problem as most Americans will be quick to blame takes away attention from the root issues which go beyond gang culture and crime. Those problems don't just include poor relations with the police but also social exclusion, unemployment, poverty, family breakdown, government incompetence and institutional discrimination.

 

[dhump]

And could you compare the amount of violent crimes which happen in the USA? Fact remains Black and Mexican gangs are the primary agents of violence in different parts of the USA. Do you see the support that the cops get from ordinary white civilians? Or do you think everyone there is a racist?

So you are saying that because cops and police system is not efficient enough to solve the problems they tend to kill them more ??

You know this is how you start tolerating inefficiency of a system and start actually accepting things that are wrong.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A lot of victim-blaming going on in here.

The fact is a black person has it harder in USA than an average white person.

Black people are three times more likely to be killed by police in the United States than white people. More unarmed black people were killed by police than unarmed white people last year. And that's taking into account the fact that black people are only 14% of the population here.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32740523

 

[dhump]

A little factoid:

USA population: 320 million

Germany population: 80 million

2 to 1207

 

[Uzi]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37427164

Another black man was shot yesterday. There is no doubt that the US have major issues when it comes to their shoot and ask questions later policy.

 

[QazzarFan]

A lot of victim-blaming going on in here.

The fact is a black person has it harder in USA than an average white person.

Aw so sad. Must be the White man's fault that Blacks as a group are behind every other minority in the country in almost every field except sports and music. From what I have observed, Blacks especially newer generation are extremely lethargic, wants to live on govt. grants, have no academic ambitions, very few go to college even though millions of $$ in scholarships for blacks are sitting there waiting to be taken. There are almost no Black entrepreneurs in the fields of science and tech. From my observations, I see Black women more ambitious and accomplished nowadays than Black men.

 

[Pure Evil]

So you are saying that because cops and police system is not efficient enough to solve the problems they tend to kill them more ??

You know this is how you start tolerating inefficiency of a system and start actually accepting things that are wrong.

Not kill them more, they tend to be more edgy. You really need to drop down here and walk around the black neighborhoods to understand the social situation. Thats like judging Pakistan based on what happens in Karachi, does not speak for the rest of the country.

P.S: I am not comparing Pakistan to USA. I am just pointing out ground realities are different from what is presented in the media.

 

[sshakir411]

It's very easy to single out a particular community when they are victims of racial biases and narrow minded bigotry, pointing out the very "black" problem as most Americans will be quick to blame takes away attention from the root issues which go beyond gang culture and crime. Those problems don't just include poor relations with the police but also social exclusion, unemployment, poverty, family breakdown, government incompetence and institutional discrimination.

right...but the community receives unprecedented help from the government and yet members of the said community fail to bring about a positive change in their lives. No other community gets free housing and food from the government EXCEPT African Americans. Your words would hold more value if ALL African Americans were suffering..but as I mentioned earlier the middle class African American community is doing better than it ever has since Obama came in to power. Take Ben Carson for example, a 'black' man representing the REPUBLICAN party, the so called bigots, Trump supporters, actually gained support from old white nutjobs.

It's true that the average Black person has it harder than a white person, but do they have it harder than the Mexicans? No, they don't...the Mexican community is able to provide for their families and find jobs without mooching off the government, who is already pretty harsh against them.

You would understand the issue better had you spent some time in the US and understood the 'black' culture. Some of them actually value the help they get and use it to better their lives, but that would be 1/10. All else want to keep the "ghetto" culture alive and thrive in that environment.

 

[shaz619]

right...but the community receives unprecedented help from the government and yet members of the said community fail to bring about a positive change in their lives. No other community gets free housing and food from the government EXCEPT African Americans. Your words would hold more value if ALL African Americans were suffering..but as I mentioned earlier the middle class African American community is doing better than it ever has since Obama came in to power. Take Ben Carson for example, a 'black' man representing the REPUBLICAN party, the so called bigots, Trump supporters, actually gained support from old white nutjobs.

It's true that the average Black person has it harder than a white person, but do they have it harder than the Mexicans? No, they don't...the Mexican community is able to provide for their families and find jobs without mooching off the government, who is already pretty harsh against them.

You would understand the issue better had you spent some time in the US and understood the 'black' culture. Some of them actually value the help they get and use it to better their lives, but that would be 1/10. All else want to keep the "ghetto" culture alive and thrive in that environment.

I think you'd have a better understanding of the situation if you could get past blind nationalism or else you'd not get so defensive with this whole I live in the US crap which makes my word gospel, Trump is a US citizen as well going by your logic his words must hold great weight.

You're sugar coating racist tendencies with comments such as "understood the 'black' culture", black culture doesn't = crime and gang warfare. Same way it would be ignorant to label your entire community for example as a bunch of extremists. You have demonized an entire community with your disingenuous "1/10" comment which is extremely disgusting, you make me sick.

Instead of looking at the root causes such as poor police relations, social exclusion, unemployment, poverty, family breakdown, government incompetence and institutional discrimination you are justifying murder because every black person is a gangster

 

[sshakir411]

I think you'd have a better understanding of the situation if you could get past blind nationalism or else you'd not get so defensive with this whole I live in the US crap which makes my word gospel, Trump is a US citizen as well going by your logic his words must hold great weight.

You're sugar coating racist tendencies with comments such as "understood the 'black' culture", black culture doesn't = crime and gang warfare. Same way it would be ignorant to label your entire community for example as a bunch of extremists. You have demonized an entire community with your disingenuous "1/10" comment which is extremely disgusting, you make me sick.

Instead of looking at the root causes such as poor police relations, social exclusion, unemployment, poverty, family breakdown, government incompetence and institutional discrimination you are justifying murder because every black person is a gangster

what a load of bull. Please read up on the African American community in the US, you are very unaware. And no where have I justified the murder but rather discussed why police officers end up being suspicious of most black males. CLEARLY, you've ever known an African American in your personal life.

 

[shaz619]

what a load of bull. Please read up on the African American community in the US, you are very unaware. And no where have I justified the murder but rather discussed why police officers end up being suspicious of most black males. CLEARLY, you've ever known an African American in your personal life.

It's a load of bs as you can't comprehend the gist of the matter right so resort to demonizing an entire community and coming out with racist comments because it's the easiest and cheapest way to make sense of things. In fact I have worked closely with the black community and I have a better insight then you being from a diverse/ trouble-some but improving inner city, am also a mixed raced Pper with me pa being a black dude, I have seen it all and I see where you're coming from with your complaints but it still doesn't justify the cops bigotry and looking at crime with a narrow mind rather then the root causes is just nonsensical.

 

[sshakir411]

It's a load of bs as you can't comprehend the gist of the matter right so resort to demonizing an entire community and coming out with racist comments because it's the easiest and cheapest way to make sense of things. In fact I have worked closely with the black community and I have a better insight then you being from a diverse/ trouble-some but improving inner city, am also a mixed raced Pper with me pa being a black dude, I have seen it all and I see where you're coming from with your complaints but it still doesn't justify the cops bigotry and looking at crime with a narrow mind rather then the root causes is just nonsensical.

who justified cops bigotry or killing with impunity? please point me to where I did...again, the 'root causes' you highlight are severely exaggerated. African Americans have enough opportunities to alleviate themselves from their current situation and have had that chance for many decades now. also pa being black does not equate to pa being African American.

 

[shaz619]

who justified cops bigotry or killing with impunity? please point me to where I did...again, the 'root causes' you highlight are severely exaggerated. African Americans have enough opportunities to alleviate themselves from their current situation and have had that chance for many decades now. also pa being black does not equate to pa being African American.

They are not severely exaggerated at all so don't push them as such, they are just factors which we consider when forming an objective conclusion instead of demonizing an entire community, that is severely exaggerating actually and pointing out things like how only 1/10 want to better their lives and before saying gang culture and black culture are the same and then advocating your greatness as an african american expert with statements like that . Your first thought was not to condemn the cops bigotry but to give the reasons behind it, what does that say about someone like you? pa has african american relatives we are exposed to their community on every level while admittedly pa is of Jamaican origin.

 

[Saeed]

Cops should get a more severe punishment when they kill someone. Civilian deaths by cops continue to go up and government does nothing. Some cops are simple not mentally strong. They are scared of their own shadow, black people makes them even more paranoid and loose gun gun control makes the whole situation a disaster.

 

[Syed1]

US is very safe man. You can take the subway late night and won't get into trouble. US is also a much more fun place than Hong Kong

Chicago, one of the major US cities, has one of the highest murder rates in the world

 

[shaz619]

Cops ultimate duty in America is to guard the state and protect private property through enforcing class hostilities. They are the mercenary wing of he ruling class. Police Brutality is due to capitalism which necessitates oppressed under-classes in America which are mostly black, brown and indigenous people. We can see this evidently when you look at the genocidal settler policies of the American government towards native Americans for multinational corporations.

The mass incarceration of poor African American people for the purpose of obtaining slave labour within the prison system and militarization of the border. Yet narrow minded American and capitalistic sympathisers will continue to push this condescending "protect and serve" garbage, yeah protect and serve Darth Vader.

 

[Abdullah719]

Stick to discussing the issues, keep the personal comments off this forum.

 

[Pakistanian]

Chicago, one of the major US cities, has one of the highest murder rates in the world

Yea cause one city makes up one of the largest countries in the world.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

The minor nation comment was form Borat for all those that didn't know and got offended.

While racist cops do exist and are responsible for some of the recent killings of innocent civilians, people here have no idea about the African American community and what they do in places like Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. Majority of the 'Black Lives Matter' protesters are paid to show up and have no connection to the movement. I have been asked twice to protest for them for a mere $50 a protest.

African American gangs were responsible for the murder of 3000 people 2 weeks ago on a long weekend (labor day holiday) in Chicago alone. Majority of the killings were for petty cash, cars, and/or in many cases no reason at all. A police officer (white) was recently stabbed by a 11 year old black kid when he was trying to help him get back home. The police in such areas is always more suspicious of black males in particular and will take action if the suspect does not comply with all they say, and majority never comply.

While I agree on some of the gun control arguments, people need to understand that majority of the crime in any city stems from the African American community, who by coincidence, happen to be the only community that is cared and provided for the most by the government (food stamps, homeless shelters, etc..). What the African American community faces today in the US is largely because of themselves.

The recent incident is sad and the police force should be held accountable and the officer punished, but the issue is far deeper than people know of.

Straight up desi redneck right here . We do have a policing problem , mass incarnation is big in the U.S.A

 

[Thivagar]

what a load of bull. Please read up on the African American community in the US, you are very unaware. And no where have I justified the murder but rather discussed why police officers end up being suspicious of most black males. CLEARLY, you've ever known an African American in your personal life.

You don't have the ability to see things beyond what you are hearing and witnessing. This sounds just like American and Jews shouting "We wouldn't bomb them(Palestinians) in 1000s if only they stop attacking us first". Don't be a hypocrite. The Black society is the way it is because of the Jim Crow laws and the segregation. Unrest in black society is just the outcome of what was put up on the entire race for half a millennium. Indians in Malaysia are viewed just as Blacks are viewed in US. Don't be so narrow minded.

 

[Muhammad10]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 700th person was just killed by American police in 2017. This year is on pace to be the deadliest year ever measured for police violence</p>— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/891068457533534208">July 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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