The abrogation of Article 370 is backfiring for India, with native Kashmiris resisting the move

[FearlessRoar]

- Reasi incident (June 9): Terrorists opened fire on a bus carrying pilgrims to Vaishno Devi temple, killing several civilians.

- Hiranagar attack (June 11): Terrorists infiltrated the area, asking for directions, and opened fire on people, killing one terrorist and trapping another.

- Kota top area firing (June 12): Security forces retaliated against terrorist firing.

- Chattargalla Pass attack (June 11): Five Rashtriya Rifles personnel and a Special Police Officer were injured in a terrorist attack.

India must be careful in this sensitive situation. It's important not to blame Pakistan without strong evidence. Instead, India should listen to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, address their concerns, and protect their human rights.

The recent attacks in Jammu and Kashmir are linked to the controversial decision to revoke Article 370, which had granted the region special status. Many people in Kashmir feel this move has taken away their autonomy and cultural identity. They are resisting what they see as external control and want to maintain their dominance in the region, free from outside influence.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

- Reasi incident (June 9): Terrorists opened fire on a bus carrying pilgrims to Vaishno Devi temple, killing several civilians.

- Hiranagar attack (June 11): Terrorists infiltrated the area, asking for directions, and opened fire on people, killing one terrorist and trapping another.

- Kota top area firing (June 12): Security forces retaliated against terrorist firing.

- Chattargalla Pass attack (June 11): Five Rashtriya Rifles personnel and a Special Police Officer were injured in a terrorist attack.

India must be careful in this sensitive situation. It's important not to blame Pakistan without strong evidence. Instead, India should listen to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, address their concerns, and protect their human rights.

The recent attacks in Jammu and Kashmir are linked to the controversial decision to revoke Article 370, which had granted the region special status. Many people in Kashmir feel this move has taken away their autonomy and cultural identity. They are resisting what they see as external control and want to maintain their dominance in the region, free from outside influence.

Hmm, so they waited 4 years for that. Its about timing with certain political events in the region.
So terror attacks on innocent pilgrims are resistance that one can get behind!! Nice!!
There is a sudden spike yes, buts its very much linked to Indian general elections. Overall, militancy has declined considerably since the abrogation article 370.

 

[FearlessRoar]

With Jammu Terror Attacks, Pakistan Trying To Shake People’s Trust In BJP Govt: Intel Sources

The four recent attacks show that Pakistan has opened new fronts and decided to attack from the Jammu side to create an atmosphere of distrust against the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government, according to top intelligence sources.

“After complete barricading of Kashmir, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has no other option but to use the heights of Jammu. Their idea is to kill civilians and create unrest and distrust in the BJP government,” said sources.

Explaining their strategy, sources added, “Jammu is a Hindu-dominated area and killing Hindus will give a strong message to the Muslim world and garner possible support for them. The ISI is also motivated with the previous killings by the Sajid Jat group.”

Agencies say the Reasi incident, in which terrorists opened fire at a bus of pilgrims heading to Vaishno Devi temple in Katra on June 9, was a big target. “All 41 passengers would have been targeted had the bus driver not lost control, plunging the vehicle into a gorge. This was a second civilian Pulwama-type attack that, too, on the day the government took oath,” they said.

Those involved in the June 11 Hiranagar attack looked like fresh infiltrators who had lost their way and were asking local shopkeepers for directions. They were carrying medicines and other accessories, which are usually carried by Lashkar and Jaish operatives, sources said. One terrorist was killed by security forces, while another was trapped in an encounter, after terrorists forcibly tried to enter houses and opened fire on people in Saida Sukhal village near Koota Morh in Hiranagar sector of Kathua district. The second terrorist was eventually gunned down.

Given the scale on which the ISI is planning to target this new area, agencies feel that Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) could be tasked with the job. “The ISI is hopeful after the reduced number of seats for the BJP in the Lok Sabha elections. Also, the victory for jailed Engineer Rashid in the Lok Sabha elections has given them a boost. They feel this kind of mandate is clearly suggesting that people are still with separatist elements and are not coming out only out of fear. So they don’t want to take any chance in the Assembly and Panchayat elections and want maximum casualties,” sources said.

Sheikh Abdul Rashid, also known as Engineer Rashid, the founder of the Jammu and Kashmir Awami Ittehad Party, ran as an independent candidate and won from Baramulla against Omar Abdullah, a heavyweight. Rashid, a 56-year-old former MLA from the Langate assembly segment in Kupwara district, was arrested in 2019 and charged by the NIA under UAPA. He has been lodged in the Tihar jail since August 9, 2019, on charges of alleged terror financing.

In addition to Raesi and Hiranagar, firing was reported from the Kota top area of Bhalesa on June 12, to which security forces retaliated. Earlier on June 11 evening, five Rashtriya Rifles personnel and a Special Police Officer were injured in a terrorist attack in Chattargalla Pass.

With Jammu Terror Attacks, Pakistan Trying To Shake People’s Trust In BJP Govt: Intel Sources | Exclusive - News18

“After complete barricading of Kashmir, Pakistan’s ISI has no other option but to use the heights of Jammu...Jammu is a Hindu-dominated area and killing Hindus will garner possible support from the Muslim world," top intelligence sources tell News18

www.news18.com

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Kashmiris will never accept this no matter how long the Indian authorities keep detaining them in open jail.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Kashmiris will never accept this no matter how long the Indian authorities keep detaining them in open jail.

That is just the valley region not the entire UT of J&K. And even in that region its not the entire population(barely majority) as you would imagine.

 

[JaDed]

Jammu is as pro Indian as it gets. Kashmir Valley people have also preferred the economy from tourism etc over the terrorism..
If i’m not mistaken Balochistan has had way more issues in last -15years maybe they don’t like Chinese Pakistani investment..

 

[Champ_Pal]

This is called terrorists getting desperate. With another 5 yrs of BJP rule, Terrorists are not seeing any hopium in the horizon. So they are resorting to violence again.

Terrorists may have hoped that the left may comeback to power somehow. That did not happen and their patience ran out.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Amit Shah to review Jammu and Kashmir security situation tomorrow in wake of terror attacks, Amarnath yatra​

Union Home Minister Amit Shah will review the security situation in Jammu and Kashmir on Sunday (June 16). This comes in the wake of recent spate of terror attacks in the region. He is expected to give broad guidelines to intensify counter-terror operations, sources said. The Home Minister will also take stock of the preparation for the annual Amarnath pilgrimage which will start on June 29.

Shah’s meeting will be held three days after Prime Minister Narendra Modi took a similar meeting in which he directed the officials to deploy the "full spectrum of counter-terror capabilities", after terror incidents, including an attack on a bus carrying pilgrims.

National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Lieutenant Governor of Jammu and Kashmir Manoj Sinha, Army Chief General Manoj Pande, Army Chief-designate Lt. General Upendra Dwivedi, Union Home Secretary Ajay Bhalla, Director of Intelligence Bureau Tapan Deka, Director General of CRPF Anish Dayal Singh, Director General of Jammu and Kashmir Police R R Swain and other top security officials are expected to attend the meeting.

“Shah is likely to be apprised about the security situation in Jammu and Kashmir, the deployment of forces along the International Border and Line of Control, infiltration attempts, the status of ongoing anti-terror operations and the strength of terrorists operating in the Union Territory,” sources said.

He is expected to give broad guidelines about the immediate action to be taken by the security agencies in line with the prime minister's directive, they added.

Terrorists struck at four places in Reasi, Kathua and Doda districts of Jammu and Kashmir in four days, killing nine pilgrims and a CRPF jawan and leaving seven security personnel and several others injured.

Amit Shah to review Jammu and Kashmir security situation tomorrow in wake of terror attacks, Amarnath yatra

Shah’s meeting will be held three days after Prime Minister Narendra Modi took a similar meeting in which he directed the officials to deploy the 'full spectrum of counter-terror capabilities', after terror incidents, including an attack on a bus carrying pilgrims.

www.indiatvnews.com

 

[FearlessRoar]

Home Minister Shah directs security agencies to implement area domination, zero-terror plans in Jammu division on lines of Kashmir: Sources

PTI

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This is called terrorists getting desperate. With another 5 yrs of BJP rule, Terrorists are not seeing any hopium in the horizon. So they are resorting to violence again.

Terrorists may have hoped that the left may comeback to power somehow. That did not happen and their patience ran out.

Why did the BJP avoid participating in the elections in Kashmir?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kashmiris will never accept this no matter how long the Indian authorities keep detaining them in open jail.

Ok bro. We are scared.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Stupid to agree to ceasefire on the loc. Now you can't hit terrorists looking to enter from the other side.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Stupid to agree to ceasefire on the loc. Now you can't hit terrorists looking to enter from the other side.

What if the terrorists aren't from the other side?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kashmiris will never accept this no matter how long the Indian authorities keep detaining them in open jail.

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack​

In Short​

• 2 terrorists killed after they opened fire at a village in Jammu and Kashmir
• Incident took place at Saida Sukhal village in Kathua district on Tuesday
• AK-47 rifle, Pakistan-made chocolates, medicines found from terrorists' procession

Security forces on Wednesday recovered several Pakistan-made items, such as chocolates, medicines and more from slain terrorists who attacked a village near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir, officials said.
The terrorist attack in Kathua's Saida Sukhal village occurred on Tuesday night, in which a civilian was injured. During a search operation, two terrorists were killed.
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One Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) jawan was critically injured, who later succumbed to his injuries.

DETAILED SEIZURE REPORT OF KATHUA ATTACK​

• Weapons: 1 M4 carbine and 1 AK-47
• Ammunition: 3 magazines containing 30 rounds each, 1 magazine with 24 rounds, and 75 rounds in separate polythene bags
• Explosives: 3 live grenades
• Currency: Rs 1 lakh (200 notes of Rs 500 denomination)
• Eatables: Pakistan-made chocolates, dry chana, and stale chapatis
• Medical Supplies: Pakistan-made medicines and injections (painkillers), and 1 syringe
• Miscellaneous Items: 2 packs of A4 batteries, 1 handset wrapped in tape with an antenna and 2 wires hanging from it

You mean Pakistan will never accept this.

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack

Two terrorists were killed after they opened fire at a village in near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir on Tuesday night.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[cricketjoshila]

Time to up the economic cost of the ones who support the terrorists.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack​

In Short​

• 2 terrorists killed after they opened fire at a village in Jammu and Kashmir
• Incident took place at Saida Sukhal village in Kathua district on Tuesday
• AK-47 rifle, Pakistan-made chocolates, medicines found from terrorists' procession

Security forces on Wednesday recovered several Pakistan-made items, such as chocolates, medicines and more from slain terrorists who attacked a village near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir, officials said.
The terrorist attack in Kathua's Saida Sukhal village occurred on Tuesday night, in which a civilian was injured. During a search operation, two terrorists were killed.
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One Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) jawan was critically injured, who later succumbed to his injuries.

DETAILED SEIZURE REPORT OF KATHUA ATTACK​

• Weapons: 1 M4 carbine and 1 AK-47
• Ammunition: 3 magazines containing 30 rounds each, 1 magazine with 24 rounds, and 75 rounds in separate polythene bags
• Explosives: 3 live grenades
• Currency: Rs 1 lakh (200 notes of Rs 500 denomination)
• Eatables: Pakistan-made chocolates, dry chana, and stale chapatis
• Medical Supplies: Pakistan-made medicines and injections (painkillers), and 1 syringe
• Miscellaneous Items: 2 packs of A4 batteries, 1 handset wrapped in tape with an antenna and 2 wires hanging from it

You mean Pakistan will never accept this.

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack

Two terrorists were killed after they opened fire at a village in near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir on Tuesday night.

www.indiatoday.in

Pakistan is producing chocolates, dried chickpeas, and stale chapatis? But according to andhbhakhts, Pakistanis are suffering from hunger due to a shortage of 'atta.' Where did they manage to get dried chickpeas and chocolates?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack​

In Short​

• 2 terrorists killed after they opened fire at a village in Jammu and Kashmir
• Incident took place at Saida Sukhal village in Kathua district on Tuesday
• AK-47 rifle, Pakistan-made chocolates, medicines found from terrorists' procession

Security forces on Wednesday recovered several Pakistan-made items, such as chocolates, medicines and more from slain terrorists who attacked a village near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir, officials said.
The terrorist attack in Kathua's Saida Sukhal village occurred on Tuesday night, in which a civilian was injured. During a search operation, two terrorists were killed.
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One Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) jawan was critically injured, who later succumbed to his injuries.

DETAILED SEIZURE REPORT OF KATHUA ATTACK​

• Weapons: 1 M4 carbine and 1 AK-47
• Ammunition: 3 magazines containing 30 rounds each, 1 magazine with 24 rounds, and 75 rounds in separate polythene bags
• Explosives: 3 live grenades
• Currency: Rs 1 lakh (200 notes of Rs 500 denomination)
• Eatables: Pakistan-made chocolates, dry chana, and stale chapatis
• Medical Supplies: Pakistan-made medicines and injections (painkillers), and 1 syringe
• Miscellaneous Items: 2 packs of A4 batteries, 1 handset wrapped in tape with an antenna and 2 wires hanging from it

You mean Pakistan will never accept this.

Weapons, Pak-made chocolates recovered from terrorists killed in Kathua attack

Two terrorists were killed after they opened fire at a village in near the International Border (IB) in Kathua district of Jammu and Kashmir on Tuesday night.

www.indiatoday.in

Pakistani Army cannot let Kashmir issue die. They will do everything to keep the flame burning. Even it means many young men lose their lives at the hands of Indian army.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Its how the game is played. They will keep doing small scale cuts on the body of India. When India gets irritated and carries out a large scale operation, they will cry genocide and what not.

Separatists along with their Masters want India to retaliate in a large scale. That is when they can show pictures of the dead and show to the world how bad India is.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its how the game is played. They will keep doing small scale cuts on the body of India. When India gets irritated and carries out a large scale operation, they will cry genocide and what not.

Separatists along with their Masters want India to retaliate in a large scale. That is when they can show pictures of the dead and show to the world how bad India is.

The first thread will be opened on PP. They will whine about laws and rights.

 

[globetrotter]

- Reasi incident (June 9): Terrorists opened fire on a bus carrying pilgrims to Vaishno Devi temple, killing several civilians.

- Hiranagar attack (June 11): Terrorists infiltrated the area, asking for directions, and opened fire on people, killing one terrorist and trapping another.

- Kota top area firing (June 12): Security forces retaliated against terrorist firing.

- Chattargalla Pass attack (June 11): Five Rashtriya Rifles personnel and a Special Police Officer were injured in a terrorist attack.

India must be careful in this sensitive situation. It's important not to blame Pakistan without strong evidence. Instead, India should listen to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, address their concerns, and protect their human rights.

The recent attacks in Jammu and Kashmir are linked to the controversial decision to revoke Article 370, which had granted the region special status. Many people in Kashmir feel this move has taken away their autonomy and cultural identity. They are resisting what they see as external control and want to maintain their dominance in the region, free from outside influence.

These attacks also have backing of India’s opposition parties as they want to show development in Kashmir by BJP is denied by kashmiris…. On the contrary Kashmiri’s are on the side of development that’s why leaders like Omar Abdullah and mehbooba are defeated by Kashmiri janata

 

[globetrotter]

Pakistani Army cannot let Kashmir issue die. They will do everything to keep the flame burning. Even it means many young men lose their lives at the hands of Indian army.

Pak army wants to keep the Kashmir issue alive as their training to Pakistan cricket team is backfired on them

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

These attacks also have backing of India’s opposition parties as they want to show development in Kashmir by BJP is denied by kashmiris…. On the contrary Kashmiri’s are on the side of development that’s why leaders like Omar Abdullah and mehbooba are defeated by Kashmiri janata

Did the opposition also stop BJP from contesting the elections in Kashmir?

 

[FearlessRoar]

India masking aggression against Kashmiris with provocations against Pakistan: COAS​

Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Syed Asim Munir on Monday visited the Line of Control (LoC) in the Haji Pir sector to celebrate Eid ul Adha with the troops, the military said in a statement.

According to Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the army chief offered Eid prayers with officers and soldiers at the front line, praying for Pakistan’s peace and prosperity.

He also paid respects to the sacrifices of the martyrs of Pakistan, acknowledging their contributions to the nation's security.

Addressing the assembled troops, COAS commended their dedication, high morale, and unwavering commitment to defending the motherland. "As soldiers, we take pride in celebrating such festivities away from our homes and loved ones while on duty, ensuring the security of our country and fellow citizens," he remarked.

During his speech, General Munir discussed the ongoing indigenous freedom struggle of the Kashmiri people in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).

He reiterated Pakistan’s principled stance, which aligns with relevant United Nations resolutions. The army chief condemned India’s continued oppression and brutalities against Kashmiris, noting that post-election, India has been attempting to mask its aggression with false propaganda and provocations against Pakistan.

“Pakistan has always supported peace and stability in the region; however, any provocation or violation of Pakistan’s territorial sovereignty will be met with a swift and resolute response, with the full support of the nation, InshaAllah,” COAS concluded.

Earlier, upon arrival at the LoC, General Munir was received by the Commander of Rawalpindi Corps.

India masking aggression against Kashmiris with provocations against Pakistan: COAS | The Express Tribune

Any violation of country’s territorial sovereignty will be met with swift response, says Gen Munir during visit to LoC

tribune.com.pk

 

[globetrotter]

Did the opposition also stop BJP from contesting the elections in Kashmir?

Finally Viru returned after election counting and Modiji became PM for 3rd time.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Finally Viru returned after election counting and Modiji became PM for 3rd time.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Look who's talking. You fled with your tail between your legs when you saw the real election results, which were nowhere near the exit polls. And then your favorite, Smriti Irani, lost. It must be hard to digest that 'abki baar, 400 paar' failed, and then Feku asked you to remove 'Feku ka parivaar' from social handles. Where is your @Rajdeep now? He was predicting 350+ seats and over 70 in UP alone. Is he alright?

I was here during election results and after that also. Shall I start showing you posts? Was enjoying the beating BJP got in UP especially Ayodhya.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As long as India keeps needing to rope in Pakistan to every incident in IOK then it becomes ever more obvious that the talk about booming economies is a myth. Now they are planting fake stories about Pakistani chocolates being recovered from "terrorists", and all this does is make one wonder how bad things must be if the govt needs to keep deflecting from real issues.

 

[IMMY69]

As long as India keeps needing to rope in Pakistan to every incident in IOK then it becomes ever more obvious that the talk about booming economies is a myth. Now they are planting fake stories about Pakistani chocolates being recovered from "terrorists", and all this does is make one wonder how bad things must be if the govt needs to keep deflecting from real issues.

Kashmir is used as a political tool to garner the support of the relevant country's people..
In this instance, it would not surprise me one bit if the Pakistani Army, in particular the current COA, is poking the fire to garner support of the Pakistani people.

You just have to feel sorry for the Kashmiris, they don'y deserve to be ruled by either country

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Kashmir is used as a political tool to garner the support of the relevant country's people..
In this instance, it would not surprise me one bit if the Pakistani Army, in particular the current COA, is poking the fire to garner support of the Pakistani people.

You just have to feel sorry for the Kashmiris, they don'y deserve to be ruled by either country

How much support is Pakistan establishment capable of garnering these days? No one trusts any stooge govt which is in place, most of the public would hardly be shocked to find out that they are serving BJP party interests above their own qaum considering their reputation for selling out built over previous incarnations.

 

[IMMY69]

How much support is Pakistan establishment capable of garnering these days? No one trusts any stooge govt which is in place, most of the public would hardly be shocked to find out that they are serving BJP party interests above their own qaum considering their reputation for selling out built over previous incarnations.

I don't, no I hope they won't get any support BUT those ruling are as thick as two planks and are cornered.
Why would Munir visit the LOC and offer eid prayers with the soldiers...

 

[cricketjoshila]

How much support is Pakistan establishment capable of garnering these days? No one trusts any stooge govt which is in place, most of the public would hardly be shocked to find out that they are serving BJP party interests above their own qaum considering their reputation for selling out built over previous incarnations.

Any Indian retaliation will lead to pakistanis supporting their army. You will see it on this forum.

 

[deltexas]

The biggest achievement of modi and the bjp government is the abrogation of article 370 which was like a cancer. Undid 70 yrs of Congress blunders, blunders of the Ghandy and pappu family.. and not only bjp-other non nda parties supported it as well. The traitor parties that didn't support it are - Congress, dmk , trinamool mamta di.. Now jandk is like any other state in Ind. Cant give autonomy to every state that asks- next thing you will have mk stalin asking tamil nadu to be a different country, mamta di wants a separate bengal country etc.. etc..

 

[HalBass9]

Pak army wants to keep the Kashmir issue alive as their training to Pakistan cricket team is backfired on them

The Hindutva government finds itself needing to shore up support following an electoral performance below expectations, as their Hindutva-driven bigotry against Muslims in India failed to meet the anticipated fervor among Hindutva supporters.

The Hindutva RSS BJP government stands as the principal beneficiary of perpetuating the Kashmir issue.

Neither the Pakistani government nor the establishment derives any advantage from merely understanding and linking the region's geopolitics with Pakistan's internal political dynamics.

 

[HalBass9]

Any Indian retaliation will lead to pakistanis supporting their army. You will see it on this forum.

Supporting the retaliation against Indian aggression will rally support for the Pakistani army, but this support will be confined to the context of the retaliation itself.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Indian author to face prosecution under anti-terror law over Kashmir remarks

Arundhati Roy's prosecution approval comes after Sushil Pandit's 14-year-old allegations against her "provocative" speeches

Delhi Lieutenant Governor Vinai Kumar Saxena sanctioned the prosecution of Indian author Arundhati Roy under India's strict Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) over her purportedly "provocative" speech during a conference on Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) in 2010, India Today reported.

Saxena also approved the prosecution of former Kashmir law professor Sheikh Showkat Hussain, who also featured as one of the speakers at the same conference where Roy delivered her speech. The conference also featured Kashmiri speakers Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Syed Abdul Rahman Geelani.

According to officials from the governor's office, also known as Raj Bhavan, the first information report (FIR) against Roy and Hussain was registered after an order of a Metropolitan Magistrate court in New Delhi following a complaint by Sushil Pandit, in October 2010.

Pandit had alleged that Roy and Hussain had made "provocative speeches at a conference organised under the banner of 'Azadi - The Only Way'" in New Delhi, discussing issues that "propagated the 'separation of Kashmir from India'", according to India Today.

Following the approval, former chief minister of IIOJK Mehbooba Mufti voiced her surprise over the news and said that the "Indian state continues to violate fundamental rights".

What is UAPA?

The UAPA Act, passed in 1967 to prevent unlawful activities associations in India, has death penalty and life imprisonment as highest punishments.

"Unlawful activities" refers to any action taken by an individual or association intended to disrupt the "territorial integrity and sovereignty" of the country.

Under UAPA, both Indian and foreign nationals can be charged. It will be applicable to the offenders in the same manner, even if crime is committed outside India.

Source: Geo News

 

[Red-Indian]

Kashmir is used as a political tool to garner the support of the relevant country's people..
In this instance, it would not surprise me one bit if the Pakistani Army, in particular the current COA, is poking the fire to garner support of the Pakistani people.

You just have to feel sorry for the Kashmiris, they don'y deserve to be ruled by either country

I think this is a fair comment. Both India and Pakistan have to take blame in this situation.

Pakistan serves as a convenient scapegoat for the Indian Army and Government which doesn't want to acknowledge the still simmering resentments in the Valley. While the whole area is much more peaceful in the last 3 years or so, I'm sure the continuous checkposts and questioning in their own towns and cities do inflame the young to extremism and acts of violence.

On the other side, the Pakistani Army and Government need the Kashmir issue to remain unresolved and simmer to justify the massive Defence budgets and re-invigorate the Pakistani public support for their Fauj. I'm sure there is still some support - maybe materiel & ammunition being fed to the disaffected youth.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think this is a fair comment. Both India and Pakistan have to take blame in this situation.

Pakistan serves as a convenient scapegoat for the Indian Army and Government which doesn't want to acknowledge the still simmering resentments in the Valley. While the whole area is much more peaceful in the last 3 years or so, I'm sure the continuous checkposts and questioning in their own towns and cities do inflame the young to extremism and acts of violence.

On the other side, the Pakistani Army and Government need the Kashmir issue to remain unresolved and simmer to justify the massive Defence budgets and re-invigorate the Pakistani public support for their Fauj. I'm sure there is still some support - maybe materiel & ammunition being fed to the disaffected youth.

This idea that the massive defence budget can be justified by overplaying the Kashmir issue no longer holds much credibility in Pakistan though. The public are deeply unhappy with military rule interference because it has delivered a corrupt leadership and bankrupt economy. The army has gone from being overwhelmingly popular to becoming mistrusted on most issues. They can't even delivery law and order which is the least thing a military govt should be able to provide.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

This idea that the massive defence budget can be justified by overplaying the Kashmir issue no longer holds much credibility in Pakistan though. The public are deeply unhappy with military rule interference because it has delivered a corrupt leadership and bankrupt economy. The army has gone from being overwhelmingly popular to becoming mistrusted on most issues. They can't even delivery law and order which is the least thing a military govt should be able to provide.

Very surprising to see how the perception of Pakistanis have changed about their own military establishment. Either Imran will toe their line or will face permanent demise when the timing is right for the establishment.
Can Pakistan rid itself from the clutches of its powerful Army??

From Indian context, Article 370 is done and dusted and now public doesnt bother about Kashmir as such. BJP tried its best to milk 370 and Ram Mandir and see where it landed them in the elections. They were important for the masses but I guess Indians want more in terms of development.

 

[JaDed]

This idea that the massive defence budget can be justified by overplaying the Kashmir issue no longer holds much credibility in Pakistan though. The public are deeply unhappy with military rule interference because it has delivered a corrupt leadership and bankrupt economy. The army has gone from being overwhelmingly popular to becoming mistrusted on most issues. They can't even delivery law and order which is the least thing a military govt should be able to provide.

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2529701/pakistan

Pakistan raises defense budget by 17.5% to $6.15 billion amid surge in militancy​

——-

5 days ago.. while it’s true it’s not due to Kashmir but they always have a reason.

 

[JaDed]

From Indian context, Article 370 is done and dusted and now public doesnt bother about Kashmir as such. BJP tried its best to milk 370 and Ram Mandir and see where it landed them in the elections. They were important for the masses but I guess Indians want more in terms of development.

Unemployment is an issue, while some level of unemployment always existed but now everyone wants an IT job, IT contracts are lower so one way is for government to give money which they have been.
Government spending has been highest and private sector isn’t spending as much as they used to.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Unemployment is an issue, while some level of unemployment always existed but now everyone wants an IT job, IT contracts are lower so one way is for government to give money which they have been.
Government spending has been highest and private sector isn’t spending as much as they used to.

Dumbing down of premier institutions has been a concern and affects scientific temper. In the name of removing the old Congress and communist minded old guard in Education and Tech, they replaced them with some utterly dumb nuts.

We have not been able to innovate freely as per our potential. Businesses had been scared to do anything that might annoy the BJP. Case in point, the complete annihilation of Paytm. That has scared private funding to no ends. Most of the private wealth has been accumulated under a few business houses like Adani and Reliance only.

 

[Red-Indian]

This idea that the massive defence budget can be justified by overplaying the Kashmir issue no longer holds much credibility in Pakistan though. The public are deeply unhappy with military rule interference because it has delivered a corrupt leadership and bankrupt economy. The army has gone from being overwhelmingly popular to becoming mistrusted on most issues. They can't even delivery law and order which is the least thing a military govt should be able to provide.

That may be very well true but I'm not sure the Generals realise it. They very likely trust their old playbook in a pinch.

It's one of the reasons I was concerned about the likelihood of a Pulwama type incident and associated retaliation in the last few months. It would've suited both sides very well indeed to shore up their inage.

Yes the consequences would most likely have been contained but you never know in these situations. All it takes is one goof-up.

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan is producing chocolates, dried chickpeas, and stale chapatis? But according to andhbhakhts, Pakistanis are suffering from hunger due to a shortage of 'atta.' Where did they manage to get dried chickpeas and chocolates?

I don't like the BJP but certainly they done great work during BJP goverment .

Removing article 370 was a masterstroke and its work.

Kashmir growth is increasing and so much development happening these day ..

The latest attack were happened due to election ( record turnout) was peacefully done in valley so terrorist and their supporters ( no need to name them as every one know who are they ) are very upset and frustrated .

They can't digest the fact that peace and harmony return in the valley.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't like the BJP but certainly they done great work during BJP goverment .

Removing article 370 was a masterstroke and its work.

Kashmir growth is increasing and so much development happening these day ..

The latest attack were happened due to election ( record turnout) was peacefully done in valley so terrorist and their supporters ( no need to name them as every one know who are they ) are very upset and frustrated .

They can't digest the fact that peace and harmony return in the valley.

If peace and harmony has returned to the valley then there should be minimal need for troops stationed there, and you would expect foreign press to be welcome to confirm this all from a neutral perspective rather than what is obviously a hindutva propaganda one.

 

[Devadwal]

If peace and harmony has returned to the valley then there should be minimal need for troops stationed there, and you would expect foreign press to be welcome to confirm this all from a neutral perspective rather than what is obviously a hindutva propaganda one.

We can't trust some vegabond like elements who are waiting for the apportunity to disturb the peace like recent events

Btw in 1999 indian security force Return from kargil thinking all were normal but rest is history . Hope you understand the context.

You're still talking about press and we already hosted G20 meeting but unfortunately pakistan were not of it so you don't have any important about that .so read the story first.

 

[JaDed]

If peace and harmony has returned to the valley then there should be minimal need for troops stationed there, and you would expect foreign press to be welcome to confirm this all from a neutral perspective rather than what is obviously a hindutva propaganda one.

True and hopefully someday it will end , GOI might change valley demographically (Indians from mainland and corporations buying up land)by then unfortunately but like all previous civilisations that overpower another.

 

[Devadwal]

How did OP relate the terrorists attack with Article 370 scrapping? Did OP got any internal news or spreading malicious propaganda? These attacks are by usual suspects.

Its just pure propoganda . removal of Article 370 bring so much development, peace , election etc but now some terrorist came out of caves to spread the hate and terrorism but soon they will get theirs fate in the hand of Indian security forces

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

We can't trust some vegabond like elements who are waiting for the apportunity to disturb the peace like recent events

Btw in 1999 indian security force Return from kargil thinking all were normal but rest is history . Hope you understand the context.

You're still talking about press and we already hosted G20 meeting but unfortunately pakistan were not of it so you don't have any important about that .so read the story first.

Yes I understand the context. The context is you are spewing hindutva propaganda. To disprove it you could easily allow independent foreign press in to verify your claims yourselves, and allow them to interview locals unsupervised by military minders.

You and I both know this is not going to happen.

That is not to say that IOK can't become a peaceful and thriving area, but reparations would need to be made for decades of rape, murder and oppression of the locals to get them back onside. Or of course the other alternative is ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population, and I suspect that will be the long term goal of the hindutvas.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Dumbing down of premier institutions has been a concern and affects scientific temper. In the name of removing the old Congress and communist minded old guard in Education and Tech, they replaced them with some utterly dumb nuts.

We have not been able to innovate freely as per our potential. Businesses had been scared to do anything that might annoy the BJP. Case in point, the complete annihilation of Paytm. That has scared private funding to no ends. Most of the private wealth has been accumulated under a few business houses like Adani and Reliance only.

PayTm was violating a number of RBI rules. They had dominant position in their industry yet resorting to violation of rules. Couple of years ago Airtel did the same. Adani and Ambani are not even in the same field.

There are more billionaires in India today then before. Stock markets are at a record high. So many new companies breaching the 1bn usd market cap.

The crackdown on some institutions are those mainly dealing with so called liberal arts. Thats where these communist pseudo liberals were brainwashing students.

But i do agree that India needs a better education minister. Ashwini Vaishnaw is a better option.

Also JP Nadda though a huge upgrade over Mansukh mandaviya as health minister, BJP Could have appointed a person from the same field.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its just pure propoganda . removal of Article 370 bring so much development, peace , election etc but now some terrorist came out of caves to spread the hate and terrorism but soon they will get theirs fate in the hand of Indian security forces

Pakistan made lots of hue and cry after 370 aborgation. But could do nothing. GoI called their bluff.

A few terrorists have entered via loc and trying to disturb peace. They got kicked out of the valley and are not targetting Jammu.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

There are more billionaires in India today then before.

Also more income inequality and educated unemployment than ever before. Something needs to be done about this or we have a ticking time bomb at our hands

 

[Devadwal]

Yes I understand the context. The context is you are spewing hindutva propaganda. To disprove it you could easily allow independent foreign press in to verify your claims yourselves, and allow them to interview locals unsupervised by military minders.

You and I both know this is not going to happen.

That is not to say that IOK can't become a peaceful and thriving area, but reparations would need to be made for decades of rape, murder and oppression of the locals to get them back onside. Or of course the other alternative is ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population, and I suspect that will be the long term goal of the hindutvas.

Your life is revolves around Hindutva. Better to ignore you.

 

[FearlessRoar]

2 terrorists killed in encounter, cop injured in Jammu-Kashmir's Baramulla​

Two terrorists were killed, and a police officer was injured during an encounter in Baramulla in Jammu and Kashmir on Wednesday.

The encounter between terrorists and security forces broke out in the Sopore area of Baramulla.

A top police officer told India Today TV that two terrorists had been killed by security forces in Hadipora in Sopore, who are yet to be identified.

On Monday, a terrorist was killed in an encounter with security forces in Bandipora district of the Union Territory.

The gunfight broke out after security forces launched a cordon and search operation in the Aragam area of the district on Sunday night following information about the presence of terrorists there.

Officials told news agency PTI that the encounter broke out after terrorists opened fire on security personnel.

2 terrorists killed in encounter, cop injured in Jammu-Kashmir's Baramulla

Two terrorists were killed during an encounter in Baramulla in Jammu and Kashmir on Wednesday.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Hitman]

2 terrorists killed in encounter, cop injured in Jammu-Kashmir's Baramulla​

Two terrorists were killed, and a police officer was injured during an encounter in Baramulla in Jammu and Kashmir on Wednesday.

The encounter between terrorists and security forces broke out in the Sopore area of Baramulla.

A top police officer told India Today TV that two terrorists had been killed by security forces in Hadipora in Sopore, who are yet to be identified.

On Monday, a terrorist was killed in an encounter with security forces in Bandipora district of the Union Territory.

The gunfight broke out after security forces launched a cordon and search operation in the Aragam area of the district on Sunday night following information about the presence of terrorists there.

Officials told news agency PTI that the encounter broke out after terrorists opened fire on security personnel.

2 terrorists killed in encounter, cop injured in Jammu-Kashmir's Baramulla

Two terrorists were killed during an encounter in Baramulla in Jammu and Kashmir on Wednesday.

www.indiatoday.in

Wishing a speedy recovery to the cop. Also, hope the families of the 2 terrorists can finally see the light.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

PM Modi to travel to J&K: What's on his agenda, full schedule

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi will visit Jammu and Kashmir on June 20 and 21 to launch various development projects. He's also set to lead the International Yoga Day celebrations in Srinagar, according to a government press release.

Here's all you need to know about PM Modi's visit: Agenda

During his J&K visit PM Modi will be inaugurating major development projects related to road infrastructure, water supply schemes, and infrastructure in higher education etc.in the state. His visit is intended to "empower the youth and upgrade the infrastructure in Jammu and Kashmir". He'll also attending an event dedicated to youth empowerment in the state.

The Prime Minister is set to inaugurate and lay the foundation stone for 84 development projects worth over Rs 1500 crore in Jammu and Kashmir at around 6 pm.

In addition to the inauguration ceremonies, the Prime Minister will also launch the Competitiveness Improvement in Agriculture and Allied Sectors Project (JKCIP) valued at Rs. 1800 crore. Chenani-Patnitop-Nashri section, which aims to improve connectivity and facilitate smoother transportation in the region is also scheduled to be inaugurated during the day's events.

Furthermore, the Prime Minister will also lay the foundation stone for the development of Industrial Estates, which are expected to boost economic growth and create employment opportunities.

The construction of "06 Government Degree Colleges" will also be greenlit, aiming to provide accessible higher education to the local population. The Prime Minister will hand out appointment letters to over 2000 people who have been selected for various positions in government service.

June 21

At approximately 6. 30 am, the Prime Minister is scheduled to attend the 10th International Day of Yoga event, which will be held at the Sher-i-Kashmir International Conference Centre (SKICC) in Srinagar. During the event, the Prime Minister will deliver a speech to the assembled audience.

Following his address, the Prime Minister will join the participants in a Common Yoga Protocol (CYP) session, where he will practice yoga alongside the attendees.

Source: Times of India

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

PayTm was violating a number of RBI rules. They had dominant position in their industry yet resorting to violation of rules. Couple of years ago Airtel did the same. Adani and Ambani are not even in the same field.

There are more billionaires in India today then before. Stock markets are at a record high. So many new companies breaching the 1bn usd market cap.

The crackdown on some institutions are those mainly dealing with so called liberal arts. Thats where these communist pseudo liberals were brainwashing students.

But i do agree that India needs a better education minister. Ashwini Vaishnaw is a better option.

Also JP Nadda though a huge upgrade over Mansukh mandaviya as health minister, BJP Could have appointed a person from the same field.

I have kinda very detailed inside information about the violations by Paytm (will avoid going further) the violations are very basic KYC mistakes which Paytm did in growing rapidly and clerical mistakes in excel sheets in a start up. Such things happen way more often in our standard banks and several times over in Co-operatives bank setups (which are basically money laundering hotspots). Paytm had been working diligently to rectify those mistakes but RBI, instead of issuing some fines and penalties went out with a hammer.

Another reason I know paytm was targeted specifically, the 28% GST on online games. Govt. Paytm games would have had market monopoly. (Again, this is from very close personal senior contact in govt. executive).
The kind of vitriol that was directed at a old business powerhouse like Rahul Bajaj, when he simply gave a remark over need for better freedom was scary for businesses.

I am no fan of the dumb opposition we have, but the crony capitalism accusation is spot on and has stifled a lot of progress.
Another sector where BJP has gone all buddy buddy at the sake of country: Defense. Mahindra and Tata have the engineering know how and legacy to transition as major defense player but Since Mahindra and Tata never really bought much electoral bonds, most new contracts in Make in Defense are being reserved for Adani and Reliance. What does Vedanta know about semi-conductors? Oh 400 crore donated a week before they get approval.

and Health??... Do we have to talk about Patanjali?? Absurd level stock manipulations, by passing all FDA requirements.

I think this can be a different thread altogether. I have almost always voted for BJP my life but that doesn't mean I am blind to the missteps and blunders they commit that are harming the nation.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wishing a speedy recovery to the cop. Also, hope the families of the 2 terrorists can finally see the light.

Since the two terrorists were probably just some random males apprehended and gunned down by the military police in a false flag operation I'm not sure the family will see the light in it.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Wall of Article 370 collapsed and fruits of Constitution have been ensured in J-K: Modi​

PM Narendra Modi, who is visiting Jammu and Kashmir, said on Thursday that his government is "making efforts to bridge distances between Delhi and Jammu and Kashmir, ensuring a connection of hearts".

The Prime Minister also stressed that Jammu and Kashmir has changed for the better thanks to his government's hard work for the past ten years.

PM Modi said this while laying the foundation stones and inaugurated 84 developmental projects worth Rs 1,500 crore in Srinagar. The projects span various sectors and aim to boost infrastructure and economic growth in the region.

During the event, the PM distributed appointment letters to over 2,000 individuals for government jobs in Jammu and Kashmir, underscoring the government's commitment to employment generation in the region.

In his address, PM Modi highlighted India's achievement of electing a government for a third consecutive term, calling it a significant message to the world. He praised the high voter turnout in Jammu and Kashmir during the recent Lok Sabha elections, attributing it to the youth's commitment to democracy.

"The change for betterment in Jammu and Kashmir is the result of our government's hard work over the past ten years," PM Modi said. He emphasized the significance of the abrogation of Article 370, stating that the full implementation of the Constitution in Jammu and Kashmir has brought new opportunities and growth to the region.

"Wall of Article 370 collapsed and fruits of Constitution ensured in JK, today Indian Constitution has truly been implemented," said PM Modi.

Healso announced that preparations for assembly elections in Jammu and Kashmir have begun, signaling a new phase of democratic engagement in the Union Territory.

The PM reiterated his efforts to bridge the gap between Delhi and Jammu and Kashmir, ensuring a connection of hearts and fostering unity.

The Prime Minister's visit to Srinagar marks a significant step in the ongoing development in J-K.

Wall of Article 370 collapsed and fruits of Constitution have been ensured in J-K: Modi

PM Narendra Modi, who is visiting Jammu and Kashmir, said on Thursday that his government is "making efforts to bridge distances between Delhi and Jammu and Kas

www.newindianexpress.com

 

[PakLFC]

Imran Khan made sure Pak accepted the Indian version of the Kashmir dispute. That is we keep AJK and India does IoK is IK's answer to this problem. I also fully understand that most Kashmiris want complete independence not a merger with Pak or India as we seem to think. They only want to use the Pak military to help them gain independence. We would save a lot of money if they got complete independence. I have never really thought of Kashmiris as really Pakistanis like Punjabis, Mohajirs, Saraiki's, Pathans and Balochis because they never show their love for Pak. Kashmir and their people are a massive burden on Pakistan.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

In Indian illegally occupied Jammu and Kashmir, complete shutdown was observed today to protest against the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the territory.

A call for the strike has been given by the All Parties Hurriyat Conference to condemn Modi’s visit as it is an attempt to mislead the international community about the real situation in the occupied territory.

In a statement in Srinagar, APHC spokesman Advocate Abdul Rashid Minhas said the strike is a response to India's illegal occupation, revocation of Kashmiris' political rights and the ongoing atrocities in IIOJK.

He also called on the international community to take immediate action to resolve the Kashmir dispute, which poses a significant threat to regional peace and exacerbates the suffering of the Kashmiri people.

On the other hand, strict restrictions have been imposed in Srinagar and adjoining areas in the name of security for Modi's visit to the city.

Source: Samaa News