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Aged 40 years old, he butchers Keith One Time Thurman; 10 years his junior to become the undisputed WBA Super World Welterweight Champion of the world; Thurman at 147 lb by far had the best resume among the top 5 in the division, with a knockout percentage over 70% and a sound overall all round boxing pedigree he posed a very serious / dangerous threat, historically outside Bernard Hopkins / Foreman to name a few we have seen fighters primarily struggle past the age of 35, the first 10 years of your career is often your prime; therefore if Manny was defeated emphatically it would make logical sense.

But throw logic out the window, his family and religion mocked before the fight with Thurman promising a crucifixion of a legend who was a very proud man of God. Manny would resurrect the myth of an ancient Boxing immortal who vanquished Erik Morales, Barrera, Marquez, De La Hoya and Cotto to name a small portion of remarkable opponents on his long list of victims.

Thurman would find himself on the canvas in round 1 after a blistering combination which ended with a right hook on the chin of his opponent which was set up with an attack / feint to the body, Oh my God in heaven! the speed, movement and power forcing the younger champion to back pedal! was I watching a Ghost from the past ? am sure Thurman was thinking the same, the look of absolute shock on his face spoke a thousand words. The round which followed would follow the same pattern as the crowd got out their chairs and screamed with every breath in their lungs; Manny! Manny! Manny! while Thurman became disjointed by the evasive angles and matrix like movement of Pacquiao who was so delighted with his work that there was time for an Ali shuffle!

Manny would then dominate proceedings primarily with a inexplicable work rate, Thurman simply had no answer before showing his desire and championship pedigree in the second half with some beautiful counters but these were just not enough and he barely survived the 10th round after a vicious left to his body; many fighters would have taken a knee but his heart kept him on his feet in a desperate bid to try and save the fight knowing the big points lead his opponent most likely would have built.

A vicious straight left shook Thurman in the final round and it summed up the duration of a commanding performance from Manny who beat Thurman from genesis to revelations even though he had a height, reach, weight and age advantage, aesthetically looking very fluid and magical.
The immortal Manny Pacquiao, fighting for the 71st time in his career would roll back the years despite the mileage on his clock from all his wars over 8 divisions! after becoming the first fighter to 5 major world titles in 5 different weight classes and titles in 8 divisions overall; he broke another world record by becoming the oldest welterweight champion in history with his 13th championship win.

There will be no doubt that he is of the same likeness as Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson, a personified all time great and the best of his generation!

Enjoy the man, myth and legend while he is still active!
 
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I hope you guys enjoyed this as much as I did, was getting very concerned by the commentary and PBC punch stats; was conditioning my mind to accept we could have a draw or a SD points win for Thurman but alas the judges scored the fight in favour of Manny although I had it wider then them, it was a commanding and dominating performance; am glad he got the W and Boxing won on the night, what a terrific fight and even now you just got to love watching Manny fight, he showed he still had it vs Lucas and Broner; both great fighters but beating Thurman who had been a current world champion and rated among the best ought to have bought even more applause if the previous performances caused a bit of doubt, there is nothing for this legend to prove but my word it is scary how he can still go!
 
Manny looked like an aging fighter in there, it says something when he is able to beat the best opponents today in their primes i.e. late 20's, early 30's when he is 40 years old but its time to hang them up if he doesn't wish to have brain damage.
 
He didnt butcher anyone. It was a close and competitive fight, had Keith not been Knocked down in 1st rd he wouldve won that fight, it was that close..
 
He didnt butcher anyone. It was a close and competitive fight, had Keith not been Knocked down in 1st rd he wouldve won that fight, it was that close..

First I have heard that, either you're clueless or an ignorant casual with one eye. Keith was butchered from start to finish but he showed great heart, he has never been dominated that way, not by Porter or Danny Garcia. Thurman did better in the second half but he didn't hurt Manny once who shook off a few flurries, in contrast he was dropped, out on his feet and was hurt many times throughout due to Manny's power.
 
When Ernie Terell fought Ali, I bet that was close and competetive. My word, pure aids from the casuals don't know the sport one bit or the damage caused by a sustained beating over the distance opposed to a one punch KO
 
Manny looked like an aging fighter in there, it says something when he is able to beat the best opponents today in their primes i.e. late 20's, early 30's when he is 40 years old but its time to hang them up if he doesn't wish to have brain damage.

I disagree about the aging fighter part because you never expect a 40 year old to perform that way, if you see his recent performances he has been in terrific form and condition; the speed, movement and power are there, he remains an elite fighter but sure not going to be what he was 10 years ago. I agree about the brain damage part though, he should call it a day as there is nothing to prove and the longer you go especially him after all those wars he is in some dangerous territory, but his legs are still under him and the defence is sound which is helping him in addition to ring generalship / experience , only a Hall of Famer is capable of this but I still agree about retirement delay
 
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Typical overhyped thread by the op. Manny won most of the rounds but it was anything but clinical or dominating. Op once again reading too much into the comments made by Thurman to promote the bout hence the emotional responses to anyone who disagrees with him.
 
Pac was very good tonight and in those first 6 rounds, it is the best he has looked since the Algieri fight. I am glad he was not robbed.
 
Typical overhyped thread by the op. Manny won most of the rounds but it was anything but clinical or dominating. Op once again reading too much into the comments made by Thurman to promote the bout hence the emotional responses to anyone who disagrees with him.

Floyd ducked him in 2009 and only got lucky in 2015 because of Manny's shoulder injury, you're just being bitter because all the attention is on this personified legend who was voted fighter of the decade and is widely regarded as the best of his generation. These are the types of performances which just add to your legend while your hero is limited to facing talent which isn't even qualified to step in the ring, bloody disgrace. And you tell me what is clinical ? getting taken past 6 rounds by an MMA fighter ?
 
Pac was very good tonight and in those first 6 rounds, it is the best he has looked since the Algieri fight. I am glad he was not robbed.

It felt like there would be a robbery, we've become immune to dubious decisions how sad is that. But totally agree with you, btw did you see him in the Bradley rematch and Manny against Vargas ? he looked great in those fights to and was fantastic against Broner / Mathysse. But this arguably was his most commanding performance, also factor the world champion in the opposite corner
 
Sure we're all idiots for praising the nature of Manny's performance, writers for the illustrious ring magazine must be in the same boat as us:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glenn Feldman saw a completely different <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PacThurman?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PacThurman</a> fight than the rest of this then? Just retire and don't come back! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/boxing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#boxing</a> <a href="https://t.co/omea8y7C9I">pic.twitter.com/omea8y7C9I</a></p>— Tom Gray (@Tom_Gray_Boxing) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tom_Gray_Boxing/status/1152848735568834560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Floyd ducked him in 2009 and only got lucky in 2015 because of Manny's shoulder injury, you're just being bitter because all the attention is on this personified legend who was voted fighter of the decade and is widely regarded as the best of his generation. These are the types of performances which just add to your legend while your hero is limited to facing talent which isn't even qualified to step in the ring, bloody disgrace. And you tell me what is clinical ? getting taken past 6 rounds by an MMA fighter ?

Lets see you compared Fury to Ali now you are doing the same with Pacquiao. Going by the the trend and how exited you get when one of your favorite fighters wins a bout I or most other folks in this forum won't be surprise if you start a similar thread for Amir Khan if he eventually fight that Indian dude and scores a victory.
 
Lets see you compared Fury to Ali now you are doing the same with Pacquiao. Going by the the trend and how exited you get when one of your favorite fighters wins a bout I or most other folks in this forum won't be surprise if you start a similar thread for Amir Khan if he eventually fight that Indian dude and scores a victory.

Instead of claiming what I say, you should quote what you have read so we can have a discussion about it - I doubt reading is your strength, am not surprised why you relate to that wife beater so much, his legacy has been cemented by facing an MMA fighter who took him past 6 :floyd 50-0 :yk3

And seriously, you are comparing a random Indian bloke to Keith Thurman :))) no wonder you glorify that Conor win TMT lmao
 
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Floyd and the money team after the senator beat Thurman:

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Lets see you compared Fury to Ali now you are doing the same with Pacquiao. Going by the the trend and how exited you get when one of your favorite fighters wins a bout I or most other folks in this forum won't be surprise if you start a similar thread for Amir Khan if he eventually fight that Indian dude and scores a victory.

Comparing Fury to Ali and we are the casuals. lol.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The legend of Manny Pacquiao... &#55357;&#56401;<br><br>• Boxing professionally for 24 years<br>• 71 pro fights, 62 wins<br>• Eight-weight world champion<br>• Won a world title in his teens, 20s, 30s and 40s<br>• Lineal champion in five different weight classes<br>• Senator in his home country of Philippines <a href="https://t.co/T8sSLdyAg1">pic.twitter.com/T8sSLdyAg1</a></p>— Boxing on BT Sport &#55358;&#56650; (@BTSportBoxing) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTSportBoxing/status/1152860860148264960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Comparing Fury to Ali and we are the casuals. lol.

Coward, don't throw words in the mouths of others out of context. When you grow a pair maybe we can talk, until then keep on ducking me :yk3
 
Manny Pacquiao - Most accomplished fighter in the history of Boxing. 8 Division champion, lineal champion in 5 out of those 8 divisions

Sasakul
Ledwaba
Julio
Barrera x2
Morales x2
Marquez x2
Larios
Solis
Diaz
De La Hoya
Cotto
Hatton
Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Bradley x2
Rios
Algieri
Vargas
Matthysse
Broner
Thurman
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56813; Manny Pacquiao's Career Titles In 8️⃣Weight Divisions &#55357;&#56391;<br><br>&#55357;&#56401; WBC Flyweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; IBF Super-Bantamweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; Ring Featherweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; WBC & Ring Super-Featherweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; WBC Lightweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; Ring Super-Lightweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; WBA & 3x WBO Welterweight <br>&#55357;&#56401; WBC Super-Welterweight <a href="https://t.co/7Y1AwMBpIF">pic.twitter.com/7Y1AwMBpIF</a></p>— Boxing Exposure (@Boxing_Exposure) <a href="https://twitter.com/Boxing_Exposure/status/1152987630486872065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keith Thurman before the fight: "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao."<br><br>Keith Thurman after getting in the ring with Manny Pacquiao: <a href="https://t.co/6Qd0lP8Mqc">pic.twitter.com/6Qd0lP8Mqc</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PacquiaoThurman?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PacquiaoThurman</a></p>— Trend Amplifier || RT & I'd Followback (@queeninghere) <a href="https://twitter.com/queeninghere/status/1152913884728168450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty much all the casuals in this thread :yk2
 
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Manny Pacquiao rolls back the years in Sin City to claim WBA welterweight world title at 40-years-old



Manny Pacquiao rolled back the years in Sin City with a tight slip decision victory against Keith Thurman to claim the WBA welterweight world title at 40-years-old.

Pacquio, boxing's only eight-division world champion - and its only active Senator - produced a vintage performance fighting at the MGM Grand Garden Arena for the 15th time in his 71-fight career.

A roaring start to the bout saw Pacquiao drop the previously unbeaten Thurman in the opening three minutes. As his long-time trainer Freddie Roach put it afterwards: "Keith Thurman may be called 'One Time', but Manny Pacquiao is 'All Time'."

After 12 rounds, the judges reached a split decision, with one judge scoring the fight 114-113 for Thurman, overruled by the two judges scoring it 115-112 for Pacquiao.

"It was fun,” said Pacquiao. “My opponent is a good fighter and boxer. He was strong. I’m not that kind of boxer who talks a lot; we were just promoting the fight. I think he did his best, and I did my best. I think we made the fans happy tonight because it was a good fight.”

The sell-out crowd of 14,356 were immediately entertained, the first round ending with Pacquiao flooring Thurman for the first time in his career with a straight right hand. "I knew it was too close,” said Thurman. “He got the knockdown so he had momentum in round one.”

Thurman was recovering in the second round but was haunted and daunted by Pacquiao’s right hand, as he did with the jab throughout the fight. Thurman came back into the contest in the middle rounds, smothering Pacquiao's physicality and movement, walking the older fighter by ten years down, having success when he was able to get his combinations off before his opponent.

Despite blood pouring from his nose from round four on, Thurman landed powerful combinations on Pacquiao for much of the second half of the fight, but was never able to hurt Pacquiao or score a knockdown of his own.

“I wish I had a little bit more output to go toe to toe,” said Thurman. “I felt like he was getting a little bit tired, but he did have experience in the ring. My conditioning and my output was just behind Manny Pacquiao’s. I would love the rematch.”

“You get blessings and lessons,” said Thurman. “Tonight was a blessing and a lesson. Thank you everybody, and thank you Manny Pacquiao.” “I really love the fans,” said Pacquiao. “Thank you so much for coming here and witnessing the fight. I’m sure they were happy tonight because they saw a good fight. Even though Thurman lost, he did his best. He’s not an easy opponent. He’s a good boxer and he’s strong. I was just blessed tonight.”

He added: “I think (I will fight) next year. I will go back to the Philippines and work and then make a decision. I do hope to be at the (Errol) Spence vs. (Shawn) Porter fight on September 28.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/...s-back-years-sin-city-claim-wba-welterweight/
 
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I'd say he is likely to face the Spence / Porter winner next, probably in 2020. No way is Floyd fighting him, he is more likely to face Khabib; Floyd can't fight against Boxers anymore, I mean he has always picked his fights really carefully but his recent showings must vindicate that more then ever when it comes to his legacy.
 
Floyd's legacy is etched in stone so is Pacquiao's but to bring Ali into the equation whenever you get excited is great injustice to that great man. May he always rest in peace.
 
Floyd's legacy is etched in stone so is Pacquiao's but to bring Ali into the equation whenever you get excited is great injustice to that great man. May he always rest in peace.

To add, Ali fought and beat every single top fighter who was at his peak in his division. Its okay, the OP gets excited like this everytime, makes it seem we are reading tabloid nonsense than a proper debate. Hence why best to treat his views as you'd treat anything coming from Daily Mail. I am sure he will follow up with 10 more replies quoting me even tho I can't see his posts but there's our OP!
 
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Pacquiao inspite of his 5 losses never once lost the love and adulation of the public
 
Floyd's legacy is etched in stone so is Pacquiao's but to bring Ali into the equation whenever you get excited is great injustice to that great man. May he always rest in peace.

To add, Ali fought and beat every single top fighter who was at his peak in his division. Its okay, the OP gets excited like this everytime, makes it seem we are reading tabloid nonsense than a proper debate. Hence why best to treat his views as you'd treat anything coming from Daily Mail. I am sure he will follow up with 10 more replies quoting me even tho I can't see his posts but there's our OP!

His legacy is etched in stone as a serial cherry picker who cemented his legacy by facing an MMA fighter who took him past 6.

PakpakCoward you can still click on view post so I will always quote your vile jibberish and make sure you get a notification which am sure will bother you ;) , too out of your depth to debate on Boxing. Atleast TMT tools engage me.

Speaking of Ali, unless you are a casual he is rated amongst the greatest ever and is the bar along with Robinson, so it is only fair that I compare Manny to the same class when no one in history of this old sport has come close to his accomplishments. Now if we compared Floyd to those names it would be an insult indeed but to overlook Manny like this is just bitterness and criminal.
 
It felt like there would be a robbery, we've become immune to dubious decisions how sad is that. But totally agree with you, btw did you see him in the Bradley rematch and Manny against Vargas ? he looked great in those fights to and was fantastic against Broner / Mathysse. But this arguably was his most commanding performance, also factor the world champion in the opposite corner

I think Pac was not as good in any of those fight as he was against Thurman, plus I never rated Vargas, Matthysse was years past it but this was a live dog in there, a prime, number one ranked welter and Pac discarded him like a piece of rubbish.

No disrespect to a game Thurman who fought and fought and fought but never had any answers.
 
I think Pac was not as good in any of those fight as he was against Thurman, plus I never rated Vargas, Matthysse was years past it but this was a live dog in there, a prime, number one ranked welter and Pac discarded him like a piece of rubbish.

No disrespect to a game Thurman who fought and fought and fought but never had any answers.

The level of performance in those fights was of an elite calibre, Vargas was still rated among the top 10 and had a title; Lucas was shot but power is still the last thing you lose and it was impressive how Manny managed to get a stoppage win for the first time in years. But for sure I rate this Thurman victory well above those, it is one of his all time great victories and the manner of the beating he gave Thurman is just so insane and tough to believe given his age, a minority had it close but the rounds Thurman won did not cause any where near the damage Manny caused; literally bloodied him and was on the brink of a stoppage in the 10th; Thurman fought the best fight he possibly could and was game as you say but it just wasn't enough
 
Superb performance by Pacman. From the first round he controlled the fight and never did Thurman looked comfortable in there. Pacman used his southpaw stance to near perfection. His ring positioning and his distance was brilliant. Sure Thurman landed a few but was never really going to win the fight. The judges in the US were to favourable for Thurman imo.
 
I’ve heard Manny is going to fight Amir Khan.

Is that true?

Nothing is signed, AK I think may have used his name to promote his next fight in Saudi. Manny will now fight in 2020, most likely the winner of Porter / Spence
 
Superb performance by Pacman. From the first round he controlled the fight and never did Thurman looked comfortable in there. Pacman used his southpaw stance to near perfection. His ring positioning and his distance was brilliant. Sure Thurman landed a few but was never really going to win the fight. The judges in the US were to favourable for Thurman imo.

Great summary bro, trust you to call it for what it was; am shocked by some of the comments in this thread absolutely disgraceful and disrespect to a legend; they make Adalaide Byrd seem like a saint.

It was remarkable performance, I have never seen anything quite like this in all my years watching this beautiful sport; Manny is truly special and deserves to be mentioned alongside the greatest who have graced Boxing
 
Nothing is signed, AK I think may have used his name to promote his next fight in Saudi. Manny will now fight in 2020, most likely the winner of Porter / Spence

Thanks mate.

Still I think it would be a great fight if it happens.
 
He lost some of the late rounds but I didn't think it warranted a split decision. It was a very good performance from Pacman and he put on a clinic in those first few rounds.
 
He lost some of the late rounds but I didn't think it warranted a split decision. It was a very good performance from Pacman and he put on a clinic in those first few rounds.

No disrespect to Keith Thurman at all, he was game and displayed unreal mental fortitude and toughness, the fight should have ended by a KO in round 10. He did come back in the second half but many of the rounds he won were just not emphatic in terms of causing many serious damage / disrupting his rhythm, in contrast when Manny went on the offence Thurman did not know what was going on and was hurt many times, it has happened to many Manny opponents in the past; they become stuck in a trance of bewilderment, Manny did slow down but you also expect that after the insane pace he set, just crazy really against the much younger opponent
 
The level of performance in those fights was of an elite calibre, Vargas was still rated among the top 10 and had a title; Lucas was shot but power is still the last thing you lose and it was impressive how Manny managed to get a stoppage win for the first time in years. But for sure I rate this Thurman victory well above those, it is one of his all time great victories and the manner of the beating he gave Thurman is just so insane and tough to believe given his age, a minority had it close but the rounds Thurman won did not cause any where near the damage Manny caused; literally bloodied him and was on the brink of a stoppage in the 10th; Thurman fought the best fight he possibly could and was game as you say but it just wasn't enough

We have discussed boxing a lot on here and you know what I think about boxer rankings and "name" fighters.

Back to Pac, I agree, it was one of his best performances, especially his best in a long time. Could be his perfect moment t oretire.
 
Earlier this month, Khan returned to the ring against Billy Dib in Saudi Arabia, a comeback bout he won by fourth-round knockout.

Amir Khan’s next opponent is unknown
In the aftermath, he announced he would be returning to the country for a bout against Pacquiao on November 8, though it appears he jumped the gun with this proclamation as ‘Pac Man’s’ team instantly denied it.

Asked about his Saudi experience, Khan told talkSPORT’s James Savundra: “They’re very, very happy with us and they want us back there again, so that’s the reason we have now announced another fight there which is November 8.

“Looking at some opponents, I would love it to be Manny Pacquiao, if it isn’t him obviously we look at someone else…

“This next fight is gonna be there as we were contracted to that, but I may be back in the UK early next year.”

Khan and Pacquiao are ex-gymmates

Khan and Pacquiao are ex-gymmates
Amir made his premature Pacquiao announcement last week, while the 40-year-old was preparing to face Keith Thurman.

On Saturday night, the Filipino put on a thrilling display and rolled back the years to defeat his younger opponent, claiming the WBA welterweight title in the process.

Khan continued: “I saw what Manny did on the weekend and looked really good.

“His timing, his work rate, the punch count was very, very high. At the age of 40.”

Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman battled in a sensational ‘Fight of the Year’ contender

Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman battled in a sensational ‘Fight of the Year’ contender
In truth, Khan could potentially turn out to be a big loser from this performance, as it proved to US fans that Pacquiao still has plenty left to give against the welterweight elite.

As such, it now seems far more likely he will return in a big fight in America, and he’s also said he won’t compete again this year.

Khan clarified: “I was told just before having a press conference by the Super Boxing League team that Manny has signed a contract to say that he would fight me.

“I don’t know who’s seen the signature, I didn’t see the signature as yet, but this is what I was told by the team.

Manny Pacquiao looked shocked when informed what Amir Khan had claimed
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Manny Pacquiao looked shocked when informed what Amir Khan had claimed
“So obviously I’m gonna mention that something’s signed by Manny and his team for the fight.

“Manny denied that, I’m left in a position where I still have a date in Saudi Arabia on November 8.

“I’m just gonna still carry on with my career, I’m not gonna wait around and wait for that one big Manny fight.

“It’s happened before to me where I’ve waited for Floyd Mayweather for a year and a half and it never happened.”

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/577053/amir-khan-exclusive-manny-pacquiao-keith-thurman/
 
[MENTION=146504]barah_admi[/MENTION] Manny enters the top 10 P4P list in the recent update !!!! who'd have thought at his age !!! incredible, also moves to no.3 in the 147 lb division behind Spence / Crawford ; as per the RING who you'd have to agree with largely compared to others.

Spence is no.1 based purely on form (also no.6 in the P4P list....), but if you look at his resume his best win against a 147 pounder was Kell Brook; otherwise Manny would be no.1 having beaten the fighter with the best 147 resume in Thurman. As for Crawford, he is rated highly based on the eye test and wins in the lower divisions.

However, Spence can reinforce his case with victory over Porter.

But I am happy with the top 3 being Spence / Crawford / Manny ; the unfortunate case here is Crawford is not a Haymon fighter so we may not see him face any of the big guns anytime soon, hope am wrong.
 
[MENTION=146504]barah_admi[/MENTION] Manny enters the top 10 P4P list in the recent update !!!! who'd have thought at his age !!! incredible, also moves to no.3 in the 147 lb division behind Spence / Crawford ; as per the RING who you'd have to agree with largely compared to others.

Spence is no.1 based purely on form (also no.6 in the P4P list....), but if you look at his resume his best win against a 147 pounder was Kell Brook; otherwise Manny would be no.1 having beaten the fighter with the best 147 resume in Thurman. As for Crawford, he is rated highly based on the eye test and wins in the lower divisions.

However, Spence can reinforce his case with victory over Porter.

But I am happy with the top 3 being Spence / Crawford / Manny ; the unfortunate case here is Crawford is not a Haymon fighter so we may not see him face any of the big guns anytime soon, hope am wrong.

Spence shouldnt even be p4p and Manny should ideally be no. 1 considering he beat the previou number one (thurman was no1 at 147 I think).

Its for these reasons I don't really care about rankings.

I just want to see Pac v TC...ifn ot then Pac v Spence.
 
Spence shouldnt even be p4p and Manny should ideally be no. 1 considering he beat the previou number one (thurman was no1 at 147 I think).

Its for these reasons I don't really care about rankings.

I just want to see Pac v TC...ifn ot then Pac v Spence.

I wouldn't mind Manny at no.1 and he would be had Thurman not been inactive, Thurman was no.1 for a while but only dropped when he had those injuries after the Porter/Garcia wars; the inactivity allowed Spence to move up, that's how it works and I get why, it gets more complicated though when you hold the RING belt; they are lenient and more understanding then others, were the last to strip Fury, ironically it happened 3-6 months before his comeback so maybe they should have waited a bit.

I don't want to see Pac with Spence if am honest lol I'd be scared to death for him, Manny / TC is a great fight though, with the way Manny has looked I can't even imagine Bob making that if both were still under the same umbrella and TC being one of his biggest stars.

But it does seen inevitable the Pac / Spence fight unless Porter shocks us all, Spence for me is way too powerful and a monster 147 pounder who should be at 154 - I mean don't get me wrong, Manny is special and I wouldn't put another upset win beyond him at all but I don't want to see him with a guy like that
 
'I'm Back': Pacquiao Confirms Coming Out Of Retirement At 46

Manny Pacquiao will come out of retirement aged 46 to fight Mario Barrios for the American's WBC welterweight title, the legendary Filipino has confirmed.

"I'm back," Pacquiao wrote on social media, after reports earlier this month said that he will face Barrios on July 19 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

"Let's make history!"

Pacquiao, who won 12 world titles in eight different weight classes, has not fought since losing on points to Cuba's Yordenis Ugas for the WBA welterweight crown in August 2021.

WBC rules allow a former champion to request a world title fight when coming out of retirement.

Pacquiao has a career record of 62-8 with two draws and 39 knockouts.

He has been involved in politics since retiring from boxing and had an unsuccessful tilt at the presidency of the Philippines.

Barrios is 29-2 with one drawn and 18 knockouts and kept his title last November with a draw against fellow American Abel Ramos.

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