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The amount of hate Ahmed Shehzad gets from Pakistani fans is despicable!

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I am sorry to say this but for the past few weeks, actually since the PSL has started or around the time when the T20 WC and Asia Cup squads have been announced, I have come to see an immense amount of hate for the lad. If this was a non Pakistani forum, it still would have been a bit more understanding but I cannot believe how much hate threads, posts I am seeing for him.

So What if he is immature, or he is Afridi's friend, or he has a selfie issue, or a serious slump of form? He is a human being first, a Pakistani second. Seriously guys, what will you get for doing this much 'Gheebat' (Backbiting) about the lad? There is always a limit to something, and ive noticed that the amount of hate he recieves by his own fans has crossed that limit.

How can we do this to our own boy? The day he comes back and scores a 100, or if by somehow he wins Pakistan a match in the future, where do you stand? Seriously guys, keep a lid on things!

Im expecting the usual lot to label me as a 'Shehzadian' or whatever they want. Im sure they will only prove my point.
 
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Belawal2014 said:
Has himself to blame. I've to go write an exam in about an hr, else I would've probably written his antics in detail. I trust someone else will do that for me.
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As I said man, why have we just turned completely against him? We are on the point of disowning him as a Pakistani. Would you disown your child if he has so many issues of insecurity and discipline?
 
Agree with OP. Just because the guy is a little different shouldn't mean he be subjected to abuse.
 
I don't like Shehzad, but sometimes he gets treated as if he sold his country out for a bit of money.

Before his head injury - everyone was licking his boots on PP; and now all of a sudden; this dramatic U-turns. Criticism is enough but there has to be boundaries.

The guy has probably received more stick then Aamer who sold his soul for his country, denied any involvement on a Pakistani tv show, wore a cannabis shirt to the court, retweeted tweets against people criticising him and made a meal of his celebration against Hafeez... But, also getting over dramatic in Bangladesh T20 league when couple of players couldnt field well - and still carried on even after taking the wicket!
 
He has only himself to blame.

The criticism of him is valid till he thinks it right to be playing for Pakistan regardless of his poor performances. He has been terrible for the past year but doesn't leave us. The so called hate is due to his own antics.

What really grinds my gears is the attitude issues he has and his lack of discipline. He thinks he is the second coming of Bradman and seems to genuinely believe that he is a great cricketer. Even after being dropped about a year late than he should have been he was claiming that he was dropped wrongly and was only 50 runs away from a T20 record which was straight up fabrication and a lie. If he is not ready to accept his failings the. How will he even improve? Shehzad is a grade A clown and deserves everything he is getting and more.

Before him there were only two other players I have ever disliked ( different from not rating a player) but even they are nowhere near to this level. Faisal Iqbal and Imran Farhat. But atleast they didn't destroy the dressing room environment. And have major discipline issues. Neither did they act as if they were the greatest things since sliced bread. But this shoda despite having a negative impact on the team actually thinks he is some sort of legend.

The Ahmed Shehzad drama of indiscipline, fighting with coaches and undermining the captain has been going on sicnce his under 19 days so this has a lot of precedence and it seems like the says that a dog's tail can never straighten applies perfectly to him. On top of all this he has been a mediocre player for most of his career and has a poor record under every captain he had played in. In fact his record under the 'aggressive' Afridi who apparently let him play wth confidence and freedom, is among the worst record he has under any captain.

Shehzad is a liability with a limited shot range and severe technical issues. His indiscipline and underhand tactics through social media means he literally has no redeeming value.

Rant over.

Rant over.
 
The same people who criticise Shehzad day in and day out do not deserve to be there during his period of success.
 
Theo_14 said:
Before his head injury - everyone was licking his boots on PP; and now all of a sudden; this dramatic U-turns. Criticism is enough but there has to be boundaries.

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The fault was with the knowledge of those posters then because this head injury has had no significant impact on his output. It's really funny how the Shehzad crew has suddenly remembered this head injury almost a year later since a point has reached where even they struggle to justify his terrible performances.

Shehzads record post and pre head injury is fairly similar. In fact only a game or 2 after his return from this head injury he scored a century against New Zealand clearly showing that it in itself wasn't to blame. Shehzad is just showing his worth which has always been apparent if one takes a cursory look at his career over the 7-8 years. In 2013-14 when people were hyping him to the moon he was in the midst of his purple patch which was always going to end soon once we step outside Asia. Funnily enough even in his purple patch he was averaging a in the high 30s only
 
Some of the comments are a bit OTT and we all get carried away in the heat of the moment at times. However, there are many worse players than Shehzad that do not get all the hate that he does. There is obviously a reason for that. I agree with Slog's assessment for the most part.
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] what is your assessment of Shehzad?

Does he deserve to be in the Pakistan team on merit?

What is your opinion on his discipline issues which he has had since under 19 days. Majority of his coaches right from his under 19 days have had issues with him and have had to punish him? SURELY Shehzad must be at some fault here. And what do you make of the fact that he keeps having these same issues almost a decade later and show no willingness to improve himself either from a discipline perspective or a battinf perspective?

What do you make of his underhand tactics like undermining the captain and coach and endorsing tweets attacking fellow players and team management?
 
Yeah some comments have been over the top. But overall, he deserves most of them. We've backed him since 2009 and after a couple of decent years in 2013 and 2014, he thinks he's accomplished everything. The fact that he still refuses to accept any blame on himself, is why most Pakistanis are angry at him. He clearly still thinks he is a truly great player and he even wanted to be captain. I'm not going to talk about his personal life as I don't know him. He's probably a nice enough guy. But I have never seen such a selfish player. He's reaching Nicklas Bendtner levels of ego.
 
Slog said:
He has only himself to blame.

The criticism of him is valid till he thinks it right to be playing for Pakistan regardless of his poor performances. He has been terrible for the past year but doesn't leave us. The so called hate is due to his own antics.

What really grinds my gears is the attitude issues he has and his lack of discipline. He thinks he is the second coming of Bradman and seems to genuinely believe that he is a great cricketer. Even after being dropped about a year late than he should have been he was claiming that he was dropped wrongly and was only 50 runs away from a T20 record which was straight up fabrication and a lie. If he is not ready to accept his failings the. How will he even improve? Shehzad is a grade A clown and deserves everything he is getting and more.

Before him there were only two other players I have ever disliked ( different from not rating a player) but even they are nowhere near to this level. Faisal Iqbal and Imran Farhat. But atleast they didn't destroy the dressing room environment. And have major discipline issues. Neither did they act as if they were the greatest things since sliced bread. But this shoda despite having a negative impact on the team actually thinks he is some sort of legend.

The Ahmed Shehzad drama of indiscipline, fighting with coaches and undermining the captain has been going on sicnce his under 19 days so this has a lot of precedence and it seems like the says that a dog's tail can never straighten applies perfectly to him. On top of all this he has been a mediocre player for most of his career and has a poor record under every captain he had played in. In fact his record under the 'aggressive' Afridi who apparently let him play wth confidence and freedom, is among the worst record he has under any captain.

Shehzad is a liability with a limited shot range and severe technical issues. His indiscipline and underhand tactics through social media means he literally has no redeeming value.

Rant over.

Rant over.
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So he shouldnt back himself or believe in himself to become a great player? He has every right to believe in whatever he wants to. IF he wants to believe himself to be a 'Jahaaz' let him! AT the end of the day, the guy has got himself 8 International 100s believing in himself to be this great. So let him do what he thinks is best for him. Does him believing in himself mean that we should absolutely destroy his life??
 
Rana said:
So he shouldnt back himself or believe in himself to become a great player? He has every right to believe in whatever he wants to. IF he wants to believe himself to be a 'Jahaaz' let him! AT the end of the day, the guy has got himself 8 International 100s believing in himself to be this great. So let him do what he thinks is best for him. Does him believing in himself mean that we should absolutely destroy his life??
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Oh here comes the EIGHT International hundreds. What about the 80 other innings where he was failing spectacularly hence contributing to his pathetic overall stats? What about the fact that over 2 World Cups he averages 12 against full member teams?
 
Slog said:
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] what is your assessment of Shehzad?

Does he deserve to be in the Pakistan team on merit?

What is your opinion on his discipline issues which he has had since under 19 days. Majority of his coaches right from his under 19 days have had issues with him and have had to punish him? SURELY Shehzad must be at some fault here. And what do you make of the fact that he keeps having these same issues almost a decade later and show no willingness to improve himself either from a discipline perspective or a battinf perspective?

What do you make of his underhand tactics like undermining the captain and coach and endorsing tweets attacking fellow players and team management?
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a) Does he deserve to be playing on merit?

If we go into the details of some things, I believe he and Umar Akmal are equally deserving on the basis of natural talent. There is a reason why Sachin is the legend he is today, and thats the backing of the BCCI. It took Sachin 83 matches to score his first 100. He could have been discareded and forgotten forever within due to form or merit.,

As far as discipline and the social media idiotic things, well im sure that he isnt the first person in the history of cricket to have such issues. He seems to get on very well with the majority of people. Seems to be a very popular guy amongst the top pedigree of cricket. I can even say that I feel nobodys could well be jealous of his popularity. I dont think its a good thing, but I do feel that we must be a bit more patient with people like him. Obviously he has some tarbiyat kammi...maybe its simply due to the fact that he doesnt have a father figure in his life and its just the way he has got around to becoming what he has today.
 
Also he can back or believe in himself but it will only get aboslutely nowhere. He won't improve or perform until he accepts his failures and his status as a mediocre batsman who needs massive improvements in his game. But this shoda instead says "I have achieved everything and have nothing left to prove." Muppet!
 
Slog said:
Oh here comes the EIGHT International hundreds. What about the 80 other innings where he was failing spectacularly hence contributing to his pathetic overall stats? What about the fact that over 2 World Cups he averages 12 against full member teams?
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I would like to know what Inzamam avereged in his world cup career? I still wouldnt say Inzimam was a fake! He was a legend still. The boy is 24, can you not be so impatient? I can bet you all your money, you can name 10 other options but none of them will do any better than he.

There is no such thing as the ideal opener in Pakistan. They will score 5 hundreds in a row.....and produce 500 runs in the next 50 games.
 
Rana said:
I would like to know what Inzamam avereged in his world cup career? I still wouldnt say Inzimam was a fake! He was a legend still. The boy is 24, can you not be so impatient? I can bet you all your money, you can name 10 other options but none of them will do any better than he.

There is no such thing as the ideal opener in Pakistan. They will score 5 hundreds in a row.....and produce 500 runs in the next 50 games.
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Inzamam played a starring role in a WC semi and final. He also had arguably the greatest World Cup innings of all time in my book. Please don't compare them. Inzi failed in subsequent World Cups but his overall career record points to his success
 
Slog said:
Inzamam played a starring role in a WC semi and final. He also had arguably the greatest World Cup innings of all time in my book. Please don't compare them. Inzi failed in subsequent World Cups but his overall career record points to his success
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So All shahzad needs is that one, mindblowing , match wining innings in a world cup game?
 
Rana said:
So All shahzad needs is that one, mindblowing , match wining innings in a world cup game?
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In a World Cup semi final or final and we win the tournament. But I can guarantee he won't do it. Averages 12 over two world cups and with next World Cup in England he is destined to fail if he somehow finds his way in the side.

Btw Inzi had a pretty good ODI career outside World Cups too. Shehzad has had a very mediocre overall ODI career where in an era of ultra flat tracks he averages 33 at 73 whereS his peers averaged around 50 at SR of 90. For his time Inzi had similar output to his peers.
 
You are talking so much sense here [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION].I have seen him he is acting like some legend.His statements like 8 centuries in such a young age and many more.His stats are pretty mediocre but still he act like a legend
 
Rana said:
All of your description regarding his technique is very reminiscent of Sehwag. The only difference was that Viru found himself and knew that now he is fully a part of international cricket. He then delivered!
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Yeah Viru had a SR of 72 :))) viru didn't have great footwork but his hand eye coordination was world class and that comes naturally. Shehzads is not at same level. Also Viru found gaps int he field for fun and hardly ever played 2 consecutive dot balls. It's embarrassing to compare Shehzad to Sehwag

Shehzad has had similar strike rates under every captain. Heck he had a lower SR and average under Afridi than under Misbah. Clearly not being given confidence about his place is nto the issue here.

This is the problem with Shehzad and his crew. The stats and reality are screaming at them about his mediocrity and terrible record but they will keep on coming with excuses for him and make it seem like he has been doing well or would have been doing well if some things were different. He was given all confidence in the world and failed. Honestly which other player had almost a free pass in the side for almost a year?
 
Rana said:
I am sorry to say this but for the past few weeks, actually since the PSL has started or around the time when the T20 WC and Asia Cup squads have been announced, I have come to see an immense amount of hate for the lad. If this was a non Pakistani forum, it still would have been a bit more understanding but I cannot believe how much hate threads, posts I am seeing for him.

So What if he is immature, or he is Afridi's friend, or he has a selfie issue, or a serious slump of form? He is a human being first, a Pakistani second. Seriously guys, what will you get for doing this much 'Gheebat' (Backbiting) about the lad? There is always a limit to something, and ive noticed that the amount of hate he recieves by his own fans has crossed that limit.

How can we do this to our own boy? The day he comes back and scores a 100, or if by somehow he wins Pakistan a match in the future, where do you stand? Seriously guys, keep a lid on things!

Im expecting the usual lot to label me as a 'Shehzadian' or whatever they want. Im sure they will only prove my point.
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We have no issues if he is out of form but have you seen his attitude? bad performance after bad performance and yet he is satisfied with himself and openly criticising everyone on media? really do you think he right? 2011 to 2016 please remind he how many big innings or match saviour innings he has played? Simply not mature enough player and no sense of respinsibility and it is not gheebat it is our personal opinion
 
The personal comments aside - Shehzad isn't doing him any good.

His Shehzadian attitude isn't helping him. Someone should tell him to stop doing that. He is too self aware for his own good and continues to overlook the general flaws in him due to filtering it out along with the unjust hate.
 
Rana said:
a) Does he deserve to be playing on merit?

If we go into the details of some things, I believe he and Umar Akmal are equally deserving on the basis of natural talent. There is a reason why Sachin is the legend he is today, and thats the backing of the BCCI. It took Sachin 83 matches to score his first 100. He could have been discareded and forgotten forever within due to form or merit.,

As far as discipline and the social media idiotic things, well im sure that he isnt the first person in the history of cricket to have such issues. He seems to get on very well with the majority of people. Seems to be a very popular guy amongst the top pedigree of cricket. I can even say that I feel nobodys could well be jealous of his popularity. I dont think its a good thing, but I do feel that we must be a bit more patient with people like him. Obviously he has some tarbiyat kammi...maybe its simply due to the fact that he doesnt have a father figure in his life and its just the way he has got around to becoming what he has today.
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Sachin oozed class since he was 14 years old. People knew that sooner or later this kid will come through and he did.

The only person who thinks Shehzad has class is himself!
 
People go OTT even in matches he performs you would see people criticizing him and bashing which is really uncalled for.

I have backed him in the past (don't do it anymore) because I believed (and still believe to some extent but he has a lot of issues) that he had talent and could succeed at this level but he is not improving and has regressed since. There was some glimpse in b/w where it seemed like he is improving but his game has deteriorated. I backed him because from our history I know it would be very rare to get a top opener and Shehzad had potential to become one according to our history but unfortunately his game didn't pick up. He has gone down the like Junaid Khan.

Now why Pakistanis blame him so much is because we Pakistanis love to play the blame game. People act as if he is the only missing puzzle in otherwise a great ODI team. He is the only mediocre bat in the team full of ABDV. And why is he scapegoat because of his off-field attitude and social media handling. It's easy to blame everything on him rather than accepting we are losing because we are atrocious ODI team. He gets loads of hate here but doesn't get credit when due. How many of people would here acknowledge he has done well in tests? If someone does it usually would be followed by 'oh but i's in UAE only' Every test player starts off in familiar conditions.

People go really overboard when criticizing him. He deserves to be axed from the tea but some of the abuses he gets is closed to someone who's being bullied by the others.
 
its clear from this thread that the amount of love shehzad gets from his fans is despicable. no coherent argument, and no recognition of just how divisive and immature a character can be destructive to a team. theres a good reason that guys like kp, ryder, symonds etc were booted out of their sides despite what talent (in their cases) they had.

any objective viewer would look at his stats, look at his behaviour, and look at his disrespect for his team members including his captain, and wouldnt think twice about him. it just goes to show meaningless and unintelligent a pointless statistic like 'century count' is.
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] is right on the money as usual so no need to reply to OP.

On a side note what amazes me is that he has SR of 72 in this era as an opener. That is shocking, must be the lowest of all the openers from top 8 sides?
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION], you want to know why people hate Shehzad? Go look at the garbage accusations his agent tweeted against Wahab. He's been ripped apart for it by others, as it goes completely beyond the bounds of decency. But still, it is exactly that kind of behavior exhibited by Shehzad and his friends and management team that make people really hate him.

There are plenty of Pakistan players who I think are really poor and have no business on the squad. Sohaib Maqsood, for one. But people don't despise them. But Shehzad has done a lot to earn that - his arrogance, pettiness, picking fight with teammates/coaches, liking tweets against coach/captain/teammates, never improving, acting like god's gift to Pakistan.

I wish he had a tenth of Kohli's talent.
 
Logical said:
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] is right on the money as usual so no need to reply to OP.

On a side note what amazes me is that he has SR of 72 in this era as an opener. That is shocking, must be the lowest of all the openers from top 8 sides?
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Nah, he is not the lowest.

35+ ODIs in the last 5 years. He is the second lowest.

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There is a common myth that Shehzad lost form after getting hit on the head by Anderson, a myth already busted by myth busters.

People who bring up that myth conveniently forget the centuries he scored not too long after that blow.

Besides, hundreds of cricketers have gotten hit on the head at some point in time, that too by much more threatening pacers, and moved on. That's not an excuse to not perform for nearly 2 years after getting a free ride since 2013. Obviously we all wanted him recovered when he suffered the injury, no one was laughing or mocking him then.

But his recent antics have resulted in such reactions, which I admit, are sometimes out of line, but are mostly deserved.

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Nah, he is not the lowest.

35+ ODIs in the last 5 years. He is the second lowest.

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embarrassing stat. and shows our rightful place in LOIs.
 
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I feel bad for him as i would for any other person who is going through this but he has brought all of this upon himself.

He needs to understand that the world wont do as he pleases and there are people out there who aren't going to put up with his crap.

I think afridi's lack of support to him in today's date will make him learn that relationships in professional world remain good only till you are being useful.

Hopefully he sorts himself out. Its heartbreaking to see a young man getting ridiculed by all corners (even if he deserves it in some cases) and can have serious mental impact on his personal life.
 
Rana said:
All of your description regarding his technique is very reminiscent of Sehwag. The only difference was that Viru found himself and knew that now he is fully a part of international cricket. He then delivered!
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Comparing Shahzad to Sehwag and also to Sachin in one of your earlier posts. :facepalm:
 
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Comparing Shahzad to Sehwag and also to Sachin in one of your earlier posts. :facepalm:
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It's also LUNACY to say that the only difference between Shehzad and Sehway/Sachin is the BCCI backed them.

1) there is a massive gulf in talent, discipline, and effort between Shehzad and those two

2) Shehzad has been better treated by the PCB than just about ANY cricketer barring Afridi. He's gotten ENDLESS opportunity at his preferred position. He's never been moved. He's been deeply invested with.
 
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It's also LUNACY to say that the only difference between Shehzad and Sehway/Sachin is the BCCI backed them.

1) there is a massive gulf in talent, discipline, and effort between Shehzad and those two

2) Shehzad has been better treated by the PCB than just about ANY cricketer barring Afridi. He's gotten ENDLESS opportunity at his preferred position. He's never been moved. He's been deeply invested with.
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spot on.
Umar Akmal has been given endless opportunities too but atleast he has the legitimite gripe that he comes in too laete and doesn't play in his preferred position.

Shehzad plays in his favorite position and cant have no excuses or complains in regards to treatment
 
It sometimes takes just one game to let the thought click.

Sometimes that game never manages to come.

Curiously, Umar is also perhaps always one game away from realizing his true potential.

The obvious question is....

How long can we afford to hope that the game is around the corner?
 
Slog said:
spot on.
Umar Akmal has been given endless opportunities too but atleast he has the legitimite gripe that he comes in too laete and doesn't play in his preferred position.

Shehzad plays in his favorite position and cant have no excuses or complains in regards to treatment
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Umar Akmal has no legitimate gripe.

He has more fans because he looks aggressive and his fans gripe is late entry.

Just like u rushed to Umar's defense now.
 
Rana said:
I am sorry to say this but for the past few weeks, actually since the PSL has started or around the time when the T20 WC and Asia Cup squads have been announced, I have come to see an immense amount of hate for the lad. If this was a non Pakistani forum, it still would have been a bit more understanding but I cannot believe how much hate threads, posts I am seeing for him.

So What if he is immature, or he is Afridi's friend, or he has a selfie issue, or a serious slump of form? He is a human being first, a Pakistani second. Seriously guys, what will you get for doing this much 'Gheebat' (Backbiting) about the lad? There is always a limit to something, and ive noticed that the amount of hate he recieves by his own fans has crossed that limit.

How can we do this to our own boy? The day he comes back and scores a 100, or if by somehow he wins Pakistan a match in the future, where do you stand? Seriously guys, keep a lid on things!

Im expecting the usual lot to label me as a 'Shehzadian' or whatever they want. Im sure they will only prove my point.
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Any player in the world who abuses his own team mates, likes tweets from other mocking his own team mates will be hated. Any player in the world. Even if it is Sachin or De Villers or Amla
 
Anfield said:
People go OTT even in matches he performs you would see people criticizing him and bashing which is really uncalled for.

I have backed him in the past (don't do it anymore) because I believed (and still believe to some extent but he has a lot of issues) that he had talent and could succeed at this level but he is not improving and has regressed since. There was some glimpse in b/w where it seemed like he is improving but his game has deteriorated. I backed him because from our history I know it would be very rare to get a top opener and Shehzad had potential to become one according to our history but unfortunately his game didn't pick up. He has gone down the like Junaid Khan.

Now why Pakistanis blame him so much is because we Pakistanis love to play the blame game. People act as if he is the only missing puzzle in otherwise a great ODI team. He is the only mediocre bat in the team full of ABDV. And why is he scapegoat because of his off-field attitude and social media handling. It's easy to blame everything on him rather than accepting we are losing because we are atrocious ODI team. He gets loads of hate here but doesn't get credit when due. How many of people would here acknowledge he has done well in tests? If someone does it usually would be followed by 'oh but i's in UAE only' Every test player starts off in familiar conditions.

People go really overboard when criticizing him. He deserves to be axed from the tea but some of the abuses he gets is closed to someone who's being bullied by the others.
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So you completely ignore the fact that most people are not blaming him for cricket but for his really poor behavior, mostly off the field? Well done. Please ignore that he is constantly bullying his own team, captain, coach on twitter. No sir, he is the one being bullied
 
Always liked him as a player from start, I hope he just concentrates on only scoring runs without any distractions. It's okay if people are criticizing him, they will come back once he starts scoring.
 
He would be in my squad. But I would give him a brief. Not allowed to defend or leave 2 balls in a row after he has faced his first 4 balls.

Just go for it.
 
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Most Pakistan fans ate behaving like desi aunties, following each and every act of shahzad as if this is the biggest issue in Pakistan cricket. Like checking his likes on twitter. Just too much of nonsense.
 
Rana said:
a) Does he deserve to be playing on merit?

If we go into the details of some things, I believe he and Umar Akmal are equally deserving on the basis of natural talent. There is a reason why Sachin is the legend he is today, and thats the backing of the BCCI. It took Sachin 83 matches to score his first 100. He could have been discareded and forgotten forever within due to form or merit.,

As far as discipline and the social media idiotic things, well im sure that he isnt the first person in the history of cricket to have such issues. He seems to get on very well with the majority of people. Seems to be a very popular guy amongst the top pedigree of cricket. I can even say that I feel nobodys could well be jealous of his popularity. I dont think its a good thing, but I do feel that we must be a bit more patient with people like him. Obviously he has some tarbiyat kammi...maybe its simply due to the fact that he doesnt have a father figure in his life and its just the way he has got around to becoming what he has today.
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You should check Sachin's record in tests when he was a teenager.
 
Abdullah said:
He would be in my squad. But I would give him a brief. Not allowed to defend or leave 2 balls in a row after he has faced his first 4 balls.

Just go for it.
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It will help him how? His cross batted heaves will come much quicker in that case
 
went on his twitter and noticed he spells come as 'cum'...made me cringe and hate him even more
 
He gets the hate because modern day Pakistani cricket fan is much more knowledgeable about the game and goings on behind the scene in Pak cricket thanks to PP.

They know he is only in the team because of his connections and friendship and he brutally abuses them at times as well by being disrespectful towards the coach who is a legend for our country.

He rightly gets what he deserves and what is coming to him. Pakistani fans are tired of ****** culture and play power. We want results and the right players invested in rather than clueless hacks (that last part is actually validated by Aamer Sohail and not just my personal opinion)
 
Are people hated because other people suddenly decide that they don't like them or they consistently do something that is resentful to others ?

If the answer is not obvious to the OP then the thread should be closed and the OP be banned.
 
Haroon786 said:
Are people hated because other people suddenly decide that they don't like them or they consistently do something that is resentful to others ?

If the answer is not obvious to the OP then the thread should be closed and the OP be banned.
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Or more bluntly, is it EVERYONE else or is it him.
 
shehzad is a nothing player, he isn't terrible but on the other hand he isn't actually any good. He will become this generations Farhat, Faisal Iqbal etc. He will carry on playing for the next decade, and he will have his moments but overall he will be poor.
 
ExplicitAI said:
Not saying that, I'm talking about people who criticise Shehzad beyond cricketing reasons who often mention certain things about his personal life.
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You know what? That's totally fair game. Look at the despicable things Shehzad's agent posted about Wahab, all untrue. Look at the difference between how Shehzad and Wahab handled a confrontation
 
Indiafan said:
So you completely ignore the fact that most people are not blaming him for cricket but for his really poor behavior, mostly off the field? Well done. Please ignore that he is constantly bullying his own team, captain, coach on twitter. No sir, he is the one being bullied
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Didn't I mention his Sofia media antics? What are you talking about go and read my post. Many people blame him for cricket as well go read the forum.
 
When it comes to the OP it's purely based on "hatred" which fans have for Ahmed Shehzad and those who repeatedly behave in a derogatory manner whilst attacking him on a personal level. But before we get into that, lets get the stuff which people are using to divert from the OP out of the way:

A) Ahmed Shehzad is a poor ODI batsman and a poor T20I batsman to at this moment in time. In recent times his form has been terrible and he needs to be dropped for a long period.

B) His attitude is certainly poor and he needs to stop aiming so low and glorify himself to the extent that he's unable to improve or put in the necessary effort to become a better player, hopefully by dropping him now he works hard on his flaws at the domestic level and does a bit of soul searching when it comes to his approach to the game

C) His ODI and T20 performances must not be used to belittle his prowess in Tests where he has been more then handy as an opener, he should certainly remain in the mix; the issue is his attitude but if management feel it's improving then they should select him but personally I'd still include him because if one is producing the results on the pitch then it's a huge positive for a pakistani opener as it outweighs the negatives.

These cricketing assessments are discussions for another day but for now we need to address the OP. Firstly we must all accept that Shehzad's behaviour on twitter in terms of him liking tweets which hurt the dressing room environment are absolutely wrong and while I am not in favour of his attitude when it comes to his self-assessment as a batsman (although I don't take issue in liking tweets where fans are bigging you up nor would I read into that so deeply) or the fans who boost his ego; there are certain people who take it waaaaaay tooooo far and are no different to "shezadians, shezadiaaniacs, shazadanocks" or whatever you want to call them.

From personal attacks, dirty gaalis to obsessing over every little detail which is so damn creepy it all is just incredibly pathetic. It has reached a point where there's some kind of weird online rivalry going between haters and lovers of shehzad on where you'll have people who will go out of their way to find some kind of flaw, tweet or even the incident that occurred yesterday to get the knives out and making assumptions while the lovers will glorify his name irrespective of whether he is right or wrong.

All I can say is, get a grip and stop being pathetic low lives who lose their mind over such affairs and this is directed to both parties. No need to obsess over shehzad be it love or hate, be objective and criticise where necessary but don't lose your marbles because it'll just consume you and lead you to a point where your emotions are determined by the virtual world because you have to tackle that shehzad hater or lover...
 
Ahmed Shezad the cricketer is good better than many of the openers we have had before. He was given a job of not loosing wicket in the first 10 overs and he delivered.
Ahmed Shezad the person is immature and I think he unfairly gets hate for his cricket performance because of it.

Sent from my SM-G925I
 
shaz619 said:
When it comes to the OP it's purely based on "hatred" which fans have for Ahmed Shehzad and those who repeatedly behave in a derogatory manner whilst attacking him on a personal level. But before we get into that, lets get the stuff which people are using to divert from the OP out of the way:

A) Ahmed Shehzad is a poor ODI batsman and a poor T20I batsman to at this moment in time. In recent times his form has been terrible and he needs to be dropped for a long period.

B) His attitude is certainly poor and he needs to stop aiming so low and glorify himself to the extent that he's unable to improve or put in the necessary effort to become a better player, hopefully by dropping him now he works hard on his flaws at the domestic level and does a bit of soul searching when it comes to his approach to the game

C) His ODI and T20 performances must not be used to belittle his prowess in Tests where he has been more then handy as an opener, he should certainly remain in the mix; the issue is his attitude but if management feel it's improving then they should select him but personally I'd still include him because if one is producing the results on the pitch then it's a huge positive for a pakistani opener as it outweighs the negatives.

These cricketing assessments are discussions for another day but for now we need to address the OP. Firstly we must all accept that Shehzad's behaviour on twitter in terms of him liking tweets which hurt the dressing room environment are absolutely wrong and while I am not in favour of his attitude when it comes to his self-assessment as a batsman (although I don't take issue in liking tweets where fans are bigging you up nor would I read into that so deeply) or the fans who boost his ego; there are certain people who take it waaaaaay tooooo far and are no different to "shezadians, shezadiaaniacs, shazadanocks" or whatever you want to call them.

From personal attacks, dirty gaalis to obsessing over every little detail which is so damn creepy it all is just incredibly pathetic. It has reached a point where there's some kind of weird online rivalry going between haters and lovers of shehzad on where you'll have people who will go out of their way to find some kind of flaw, tweet or even the incident that occurred yesterday to get the knives out and making assumptions while the lovers will glorify his name irrespective of whether he is right or wrong.

All I can say is, get a grip and stop being pathetic low lives who lose their mind over such affairs and this is directed to both parties. No need to obsess over shehzad be it love or hate, be objective and criticise where necessary but don't lose your marbles because it'll just consume you and lead you to a point where your emotions are determined by the virtual world because you have to tackle that shehzad hater or lover...
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When his own agent is tweeting dirty libel against Wahab, then Shehzad deserves to be mocked and hated.
 
cricfan14 said:
You know what? That's totally fair game. Look at the despicable things Shehzad's agent posted about Wahab, all untrue. Look at the difference between how Shehzad and Wahab handled a confrontation
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I'm not talking about Wahab. What I'm saying is that it's funny how people end up hating on a guy only until he starts to blossom, then they all start running towards him as if they loved him before when they didn't.
 
Rana said:
I am sorry to say this but for the past few weeks, actually since the PSL has started or around the time when the T20 WC and Asia Cup squads have been announced, I have come to see an immense amount of hate for the lad. If this was a non Pakistani forum, it still would have been a bit more understanding but I cannot believe how much hate threads, posts I am seeing for him.

So What if he is immature, or he is Afridi's friend, or he has a selfie issue, or a serious slump of form? He is a human being first, a Pakistani second. Seriously guys, what will you get for doing this much 'Gheebat' (Backbiting) about the lad? There is always a limit to something, and ive noticed that the amount of hate he recieves by his own fans has crossed that limit.

How can we do this to our own boy? The day he comes back and scores a 100, or if by somehow he wins Pakistan a match in the future, where do you stand? Seriously guys, keep a lid on things!

Im expecting the usual lot to label me as a 'Shehzadian' or whatever they want. Im sure they will only prove my point.
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Because he's selfish he don't do nothing
 
shaz619 said:
When it comes to the OP it's purely based on "hatred" which fans have for Ahmed Shehzad and those who repeatedly behave in a derogatory manner whilst attacking him on a personal level. But before we get into that, lets get the stuff which people are using to divert from the OP out of the way:

A) Ahmed Shehzad is a poor ODI batsman and a poor T20I batsman to at this moment in time. In recent times his form has been terrible and he needs to be dropped for a long period.

B) His attitude is certainly poor and he needs to stop aiming so low and glorify himself to the extent that he's unable to improve or put in the necessary effort to become a better player, hopefully by dropping him now he works hard on his flaws at the domestic level and does a bit of soul searching when it comes to his approach to the game

C) His ODI and T20 performances must not be used to belittle his prowess in Tests where he has been more then handy as an opener, he should certainly remain in the mix; the issue is his attitude but if management feel it's improving then they should select him but personally I'd still include him because if one is producing the results on the pitch then it's a huge positive for a pakistani opener as it outweighs the negatives.

These cricketing assessments are discussions for another day but for now we need to address the OP. Firstly we must all accept that Shehzad's behaviour on twitter in terms of him liking tweets which hurt the dressing room environment are absolutely wrong and while I am not in favour of his attitude when it comes to his self-assessment as a batsman (although I don't take issue in liking tweets where fans are bigging you up nor would I read into that so deeply) or the fans who boost his ego; there are certain people who take it waaaaaay tooooo far and are no different to "shezadians, shezadiaaniacs, shazadanocks" or whatever you want to call them.

From personal attacks, dirty gaalis to obsessing over every little detail which is so damn creepy it all is just incredibly pathetic. It has reached a point where there's some kind of weird online rivalry going between haters and lovers of shehzad on where you'll have people who will go out of their way to find some kind of flaw, tweet or even the incident that occurred yesterday to get the knives out and making assumptions while the lovers will glorify his name irrespective of whether he is right or wrong.

All I can say is, get a grip and stop being pathetic low lives who lose their mind over such affairs and this is directed to both parties. No need to obsess over shehzad be it love or hate, be objective and criticise where necessary but don't lose your marbles because it'll just consume you and lead you to a point where your emotions are determined by the virtual world because you have to tackle that shehzad hater or lover...
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Great post. This should end the discussion.
 
I'm gonna confess something.

I bloody love an honest trier. Some of my favourite cricketers are Porterfield, Rogers, Misbahm Mushfiqur hell even freaking Habibul Bashar (dont ask). Point being, I love players who arent necessarily flashy hell they might not even be that good, but the point is they work their ***** off to get where they are, they represent their teams with pride and you really feel they'd kill for the shirt if need be.

Then a guy like Shehzad comes along. A superstar wannabe who bigs himself up at every chance he gets, who is more concerned with stupid post match selfies after every single match than he is with actually working on his game, more bothered with his fangirls twitter names than he is with respecting his teammates, who cant even bloody field without trying to act like some desperate one direction troupe dancer. Because this is Ahmed Shehzad, the twitter king. He HAS to be the center of attention always and if that cant be done he just sucks up to Gayle and co. on twitter in an effort to leech off of their success,

A guy obsessed with the limelight when he doesnt warrant any of it, plays half his games due to his relationship with Afridi and to top it all off he's surrounded himself in this social media bubble where his desperate fans defend ANYTHING he does, where every tiny achievement of his is blown way out of proportion or deliberately misrepresented to make it seem better than it is, where he's the king of the world. As a result he's clearly in denial about his own ability and has developed this persecution complex where its everybody elses problem for anything.

To put it bluntly, Ahmed Shahzad is the very antithesis of what I look for in a cricketer. Crap work ethic, a gigantic ego, in it for himself more so than for the team and just a generally unlikeable person. Throw in mediocre performances and its clear why I feel no sympathy for him.

Its a testament to how dislikeable he is that in an online setting like PP where any little talent is jumped on and hyped, he's managed to be so disliked. Only himself to blame.

And he's 24 for gods sake, why do people still refer to him like a child??

Does he deserve personal abuse or the like? Certainly not. Cant expect much praise though
 
Great posts [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] and [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION]. Nothing more needs to be said.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
I'm gonna confess something.

I bloody love an honest trier. Some of my favourite cricketers are Porterfield, Rogers, Misbahm Mushfiqur hell even freaking Habibul Bashar (dont ask). Point being, I love players who arent necessarily flashy hell they might not even be that good, but the point is they work their ***** off to get where they are, they represent their teams with pride and you really feel they'd kill for the shirt if need be.

Then a guy like Shehzad comes along. A superstar wannabe who bigs himself up at every chance he gets, who is more concerned with stupid post match selfies after every single match than he is with actually working on his game, more bothered with his fangirls twitter names than he is with respecting his teammates, who cant even bloody field without trying to act like some desperate one direction troupe dancer. Because this is Ahmed Shehzad, the twitter king. He HAS to be the center of attention always and if that cant be done he just sucks up to Gayle and co. on twitter in an effort to leech off of their success,

A guy obsessed with the limelight when he doesnt warrant any of it, plays half his games due to his relationship with Afridi and to top it all off he's surrounded himself in this social media bubble where his desperate fans defend ANYTHING he does, where every tiny achievement of his is blown way out of proportion or deliberately misrepresented to make it seem better than it is, where he's the king of the world. As a result he's clearly in denial about his own ability and has developed this persecution complex where its everybody elses problem for anything.

To put it bluntly, Ahmed Shahzad is the very antithesis of what I look for in a cricketer. Crap work ethic, a gigantic ego, in it for himself more so than for the team and just a generally unlikeable person. Throw in mediocre performances and its clear why I feel no sympathy for him.

Its a testament to how dislikeable he is that in an online setting like PP where any little talent is jumped on and hyped, he's managed to be so disliked. Only himself to blame.

And he's 24 for gods sake, why do people still refer to him like a child??

Does he deserve personal abuse or the like? Certainly not. Cant expect much praise though
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He is 24 according to Pakistani age. In reality he must be about 26-27 years old.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
I'm gonna confess something.

I bloody love an honest trier. Some of my favourite cricketers are Porterfield, Rogers, Misbahm Mushfiqur hell even freaking Habibul Bashar (dont ask). Point being, I love players who arent necessarily flashy hell they might not even be that good, but the point is they work their ***** off to get where they are, they represent their teams with pride and you really feel they'd kill for the shirt if need be.

Then a guy like Shehzad comes along. A superstar wannabe who bigs himself up at every chance he gets, who is more concerned with stupid post match selfies after every single match than he is with actually working on his game, more bothered with his fangirls twitter names than he is with respecting his teammates, who cant even bloody field without trying to act like some desperate one direction troupe dancer. Because this is Ahmed Shehzad, the twitter king. He HAS to be the center of attention always and if that cant be done he just sucks up to Gayle and co. on twitter in an effort to leech off of their success,

A guy obsessed with the limelight when he doesnt warrant any of it, plays half his games due to his relationship with Afridi and to top it all off he's surrounded himself in this social media bubble where his desperate fans defend ANYTHING he does, where every tiny achievement of his is blown way out of proportion or deliberately misrepresented to make it seem better than it is, where he's the king of the world. As a result he's clearly in denial about his own ability and has developed this persecution complex where its everybody elses problem for anything.

To put it bluntly, Ahmed Shahzad is the very antithesis of what I look for in a cricketer. Crap work ethic, a gigantic ego, in it for himself more so than for the team and just a generally unlikeable person. Throw in mediocre performances and its clear why I feel no sympathy for him.

Its a testament to how dislikeable he is that in an online setting like PP where any little talent is jumped on and hyped, he's managed to be so disliked. Only himself to blame.

And he's 24 for gods sake, why do people still refer to him like a child??

Does he deserve personal abuse or the like? Certainly not. Cant expect much praise though
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sums it up for me.

There are some players who are not the greatest teammates in the world and dont contribute a whole lot in bettering the team environment. However their performances make them special enough for the team management to put up with them. (even that has a limit till a certain point.)

Then there are those whose contribution on the field is that of a utility player and they certainly won't win you matches on their own. But they are great in the dressing room, work hard and play an important part in gelling the team and creating a brilliant team chemistry.

Shehzad is the worst of both worlds at this point. Terrible player and poor work ethic. Absolute disgrace of a teammate
 
Acricketfan said:
He is 24 according to Pakistani age. In reality he must be about 26-27 years old.
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And how do you know it? Were you at his birth hospital? Or did his father sent you tookra of methai when he took birth??

Or may be the news was televised in India that future cricketer has been arrived, and you red marked that year in your calendar??
 
I am indifferent to shehzad. I just feel he gets to much undeserved attention. His performances in itself don't warrant the lime light he gets

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Acricketfan said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cr...ry-is-littered-with-remarkable-teenagers.html
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?156715-Shahid-Afridi-s-real-age-is-37-*Solved*

Plus ask any poster here.
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Why should i ask any other poster when i live here and i know about these things better than them?? Time has changed now bro, and every person or family don't do these stuff. My age is correct, my all brothers, cousins ages are correct.

Not necessary if Shehzad has done this, and when you don't know about clear facts or 100 percent fact, you don't need to throw such stuff then.
 
majority criticize players as if they have personal beef with them or the player is from another city :facepalm:

Criticism should be as a cricket fan. In the end we should always think about the best for Pakistan team. No matter who he is or where is he from, that's just plain racist for me.

Shehzad getting dropped should be eye opener for him. I hope he improves and starts performing again. but him getting dropped was long over due, he is not even close to his best right now
 
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There is no replacement for Shezzy, he is a class batsman and looks like Virat but more whiter without applying fair and lovely like Kohli. Shezzy lookswise is 50% of Afridi, Pakistan current team doesn't have the looks, Imran, Wasim, Afridi and next is Shezzy. So Pakistan needs him, about his selfies, the man knows he is beautiful so why are you ladies getting jealous over his selfies.
 
I have met Shehzad and I can tell u the hate he gets is warranted. He is frankly too pompous for his own good.
 
Rana said:
How can we do this to our own boy? The day he comes back and scores a 100, or if by somehow he wins Pakistan a match in the future, where do you stand? Seriously guys, keep a lid on things!

t.
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still waiting for the century
 
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