The Anthony Joshua thread

[hadi123]

Excited for the match tonight. Hopefully it lives up to the hype.

My dad actually saw Joseph Parker at the airport back in January as my dad had to go to Heathrow to pick his mate up and he saw lots of Sky Sports cameras there so found out why. He got a picture with Joseph Parker and even shook his hand.

Anyway, I reckon it will be a good fight, but I back our boy AJ to win!

 

[TQ89]

I am rooting for my boy joseph to beat AJ and put the first L on AJ's resume.

 

[Savak]

Anthony Joshua vs Joseph Parker today. Who you got?

I think Parker might be able to pull off an upset and test AJ's Stamina and Chin.

 

[Robert]

What time is it on?

 

[Abdullah719]

What time is it on?

From https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/...-joseph-parker-time-fight-tonight-tv-channel/

No official ring-walk information has been provided as of yet but it is expected that Joshua and Parker will take to the ring no later than 10:30pm but perhaps earlier.

 

[Hamad_H]

Backing AJ but I think this will be the toughest fight for him so far.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

AJ is leagues above Parker .... it's like a tune up fight for him.

Don't think Parker believes he can win.

Round 3.

 

[IMMY69]

Styles make fights and JP wasn’t a good match up for AJ.
Ref also helped out by splitting them up every second.

Nonetheless good work out for AJ and good he went the distance.

 

[Abdullah719]

Anthony Joshua beats Joseph Parker on points

Anthony Joshua wins by unanimous decision!
The official cards of 118-110, 118-110 and 119-109 were wider than the Guardian’s unofficial score of 115-113, but Joshua is the winner. The 28-year-old now holds three of the four heavyweight title belts.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/l...v-joseph-parker-world-heavyweight-boxing-live

 

[shokz1408]

Just seen it, glad that it was a long fight, would have liked to see a knock down. Really disappointed with the ref, stopped it everytime it got close up and exciting.

 

[shaz619]

Terrible fight, terrible performance and it just reeks of corruption at its highest level. Parker's main strength is working on the inside but the ref kept holding him back, anyhow neither man truly imposed their authority in the fight. AJ struggled to cut down a smaller guy and go to work because Parker was moving so well, while Parker struggled at a distance due to AJ's reach / jab but also the ref but his work rate was better overall. I had it a draw but obviously a contender going to the champs backyard needs to do more, however the judges cards were awful and especially the biased commentary. It was a close fight with many swing rounds.

 

[shaz619]

Anthony Joshua beats Joseph Parker on points

Anthony Joshua wins by unanimous decision!
The official cards of 118-110, 118-110 and 119-109 were wider than the Guardian’s unofficial score of 115-113, but Joshua is the winner. The 28-year-old now holds three of the four heavyweight title belts.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/l...v-joseph-parker-world-heavyweight-boxing-live

I could make more peace with the Guardians card, better reflection of the fight. But the corrupt officials need to protect the cash cow of British Boxing.

 

[shaz619]

Credit to Parker he did as well as he could have, was extremely relaxed / calm before a huge crowd away from home but fought well and is still very young, can come back moving forward and work more on his flaws

 

[shaz619]

Even though I don't like Liverpool people was sad to see Pricey get taken out the way he did by the drugs cheat who is backed by some very powerful people, the fight itself was very entertaining and I have no idea why the ref stepped in when Price had Povetkin seriously hurt, there was still time in the round; more corruption. Then he got caught again and was knocked out on his feet, ref should have stepped in then because Price had his hands down could no longer defend himself, it's annoying because much like Audley before him David has the tools to be an elite HW but I think he should retire now, these KO losses have been brutal

 

[shaz619]

Both AJ and Hearn got real angry when Wilder's name was mentioned in the post fight interview, they tried their best to deflect. It is clear they have no interest fighting him, funny how they had no issue calling out a Fury who is not even active or match fit

 

[shokz1408]

Both AJ and Hearn got real angry when Wilder's name was mentioned in the post fight interview, they tried their best to deflect. It is clear they have no interest fighting him, funny how they had no issue calling out a Fury who is not even active or match fit

I don't think they got real angry, AJ got annoyed though that he kept asking him questions about Wilder. Eddie Hearn probably expressed his annoyance too that Wilders team were not responding. AJ did mention fury, but he talked mostly about Wilder and how he wants the UK fight. I hope the fight does get made for late 2018, with AJ winning by KO.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Following the path that has been walked by boxing legends <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AJBXNG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AJBXNG</a> <a href="https://t.co/8usTd03AtH">pic.twitter.com/8usTd03AtH</a></p>— Anthony Joshua (@anthonyfjoshua) <a href="https://twitter.com/anthonyfjoshua/status/980221823815241728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Robert]

Well done Parker for taking AJ to the scorecards.

 

[pakistani pride]

Both AJ and Hearn got real angry when Wilder's name was mentioned in the post fight interview, they tried their best to deflect. It is clear they have no interest fighting him, funny how they had no issue calling out a Fury who is not even active or match fit

LOL. be a little real here. We know you dont like AJ but did you actually watch the post match? AJ wants to fight Wilder.

In the end both camps need to be in. AJ was pretty clear about it.

 

[shaz619]

LOL. be a little real here. We know you dont like AJ but did you actually watch the post match? AJ wants to fight Wilder.

In the end both camps need to be in. AJ was pretty clear about it.

You should be real and smart enough to read between the lines, he tried to deflect and just repeated what Whyte said after the Brown fight as a Joke. He has only shown Deontay disrespect.

On top of that, Wilder was expeced to join commentary but didn't come because AJ specifically banned him from entering the ring post fight. It is very naive to assume they are keen on the fight, Wilder is a dangerous opponent who would cause his stock to plummet, it should happen next but that wont happen when AJ keeps pricing himself out and is looking to cash in on Fury, in the mean time they will hope someone gets the WBC title off Deontay; that's possible because styles make fights same way how Wilder is just wrong for AJ

 

[IMMY69]

Shaz619, mate, please tou’re talking absolute nonsense.

1. The ref was poor but AJ whatever little of inside boxing there was, AJ was actually doing well. Did you hear JP complain at the end? So this corruption stuff is out of line.
You have gone about the hype machine of AJ and the sky juggernaut but every pundit complained about the ref even during the match...

2. Hearn said that Wilder’s tram haven’t even tried to make contact.
Wilder doesn’t this fight... now it up to Wilder to react...

AJ is not the finished article by any means and there are a few questions he needs to answer but your complete and utter disdain of his character has been appalling. You really think his behaviour with fans post match and on a daily basis is fake? They way he greeted JP’s mother after the match? Fake again?

Meanwhile he’s still undefeated and holds four belts.

 

[shaz619]

Shaz619, mate, please tou’re talking absolute nonsense.

1. The ref was poor but AJ whatever little of inside boxing there was, AJ was actually doing well. Did you hear JP complain at the end? So this corruption stuff is out of line.
You have gone about the hype machine of AJ and the sky juggernaut but every pundit complained about the ref even during the match...

2. Hearn said that Wilder’s tram haven’t even tried to make contact.
Wilder doesn’t this fight... now it up to Wilder to react...

AJ is not the finished article by any means and there are a few questions he needs to answer but your complete and utter disdain of his character has been appalling. You really think his behaviour with fans post match and on a daily basis is fake? They way he greeted JP’s mother after the match? Fake again?

Meanwhile he’s still undefeated and holds four belts.

It's not nonesense at all actually what is nonesense are the narratives spewed by gulible casuals or those who are desperate to revel in the AJ fandom.

1. Just because the pundits complain about the ref doesn't mean that corruption don't exist or make them look any better, it doesn't take a genius to work out that sky need to protect their product. Furthermore he stepped in randomly every time Parker hurt the guy when the shots were not behind his head or anythint. There are many AJ fights with such behaviour from the ref, more recently the Takam fight.

2. And everything Hearn says must be the gospel truth? A guy who promotes AJ these people said that they dont want Wildrr to jump in the ring after the fight yet have the audacity to make him seem like the one deflecting when being annoyed / pressed by the questions regarding him as a possible opponen, Wilder is the one who has aggressively pursued the fight not AJ / matchroom.

Most people are easily fooled by his persona, I have explained why in great detail people are free to see a guy who supports Robert Mugabe as a nice fella just because he said hi to JP's mommy but not me no thanks the negatives are so easily buried deep; but despite that I have not denied he is up there with the best HW's but I like to judge him objectively rather then as his fan. Holding alphabet titles has value but the lineal HW title remains the most prestigious.

 

[shaz619]

Not to mention the god awful scoring by the judges! It was never that wide.

Anyhow am not the one who bought up his character in this thread, just goes to show the magic spell saint AJ has on his fans

 

[IMMY69]

It's not nonesense at all actually what is nonesense are the narratives spewed by gulible casuals or those who are desperate to revel in the AJ fandom.

1. Just because the pundits complain about the ref doesn't mean that corruption don't exist or make them look any better, it doesn't take a genius to work out that sky need to protect their product. Furthermore he stepped in randomly every time Parker hurt the guy when the shots were not behind his head or anythint. There are many AJ fights with such behaviour from the ref, more recently the Takam fight.

2. And everything Hearn says must be the gospel truth? A guy who promotes AJ these people said that they dont want Wildrr to jump in the ring after the fight yet have the audacity to make him seem like the one deflecting when being annoyed / pressed by the questions regarding him as a possible opponen, Wilder is the one who has aggressively pursued the fight not AJ / matchroom.

Most people are easily fooled by his persona, I have explained why in great detail people are free to see a guy who supports Robert Mugabe as a nice fella just because he said hi to JP's mommy but not me no thanks the negatives are so easily buried deep; but despite that I have not denied he is up there with the best HW's but I like to judge him objectively rather then as his fan. Holding alphabet titles has value but the lineal HW title remains the most prestigious.

Look I wouldn’t say you’re a complete boxing casual but you have certainly been exposed.
Your prediction was wrong so now live with it.

 

[shaz619]

Look I wouldn’t say you’re a complete boxing casual but you have certainly been exposed.
Your prediction was wrong so now live with it.

Yeah great retort casual, AJ looked like a like a million dollars last night

 

[IMMY69]

Other then one or two rounds when JP landed with one or two punches it was completely one sided.
AJ didn’t get sucked into a war and showed his boxing smarts and easily won the fight behind his jab.

Boxing casuals like Shaz619 will learn in time.

 

[shaz619]

Other then one or two rounds when JP landed with one or two punches it was completely one sided.
AJ didn’t get sucked into a war and showed his boxing smarts and easily won the fight behind his jab.

Boxing casuals like Shaz619 will learn in time.

Pitter Patter Jabs and Pressure he did nothing with at all because he couldn't handle a midget's lateral movment means he dominated the fight. You're just another typical boxing casual fan similar to those old fools at the pub singing that AJ song while drunk. Fortunately there are many cards like the guardians which back me up while you will rely mostly on the corrupt ones from fight night can't take that your beloved is criticised even a little or that am not a fan of his love for Mugabe like yourself

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Pitter Patter Jabs and Pressure he did nothing with at all because he couldn't handle a midget's lateral movment means he dominated the fight. You're just another typical boxing casual fan similar to those old fools at the pub singing that AJ song while drunk. Fortunately there are many cards like the guardians which back me up while you will rely mostly on the corrupt ones from fight night can't take that your beloved is criticised even a little or that am not a fan of his love for Mugabe like yourself

It was not a close a fight but not a one sided one as the card suggested. Lot of the rounds were draws as nothing really happened.

It was bit of a non event. Seemed to me both camps had got what they wanted. Parker never had the power skill level to hurt AJ but AJ is not the elite level he is cranked up to be. Nothing to suggest that he's improved from the VK fight where the 41 year old almost knocked him out.....

Looking at this fight, if Fury can get back to his best, he will make AJ look silly.

Interesting that AJ doesn't want to fight in America....

 

[shokz1408]

AJ clearly won the fight, he applied most of the pressure and got most punches in. But, the cards were slightly surprising, I didn't expect it to be that much of a difference as a few rounds could have gone either way.

 

[shaz619]

It was not a close a fight but not a one sided one as the card suggested. Lot of the rounds were draws as nothing really happened.

It was bit of a non event. Seemed to me both camps had got what they wanted. Parker never had the power skill level to hurt AJ but AJ is not the elite level he is cranked up to be. Nothing to suggest that he's improved from the VK fight where the 41 year old almost knocked him out.....

Looking at this fight, if Fury can get back to his best, he will make AJ look silly.

Interesting that AJ doesn't want to fight in America....

I agree with your assesment generally atleast you're not a blind bat like the casuals, there were many swing rounds with neither man doing much and the cards didn't reflect the fight for me but there are plenty on respected boxing publications.

It's funny how they are calling out Fury when he is not even active or match fit, I hope he takes his time before going for a championship bout and not rush because of the big bucks; problem is if he looks too good then that can put people off but this fight is so huge it will surely happen regardless.

 

[pakistani pride]

It was not a close a fight but not a one sided one as the card suggested. Lot of the rounds were draws as nothing really happened.

It was bit of a non event. Seemed to me both camps had got what they wanted. Parker never had the power skill level to hurt AJ but AJ is not the elite level he is cranked up to be. Nothing to suggest that he's improved from the VK fight where the 41 year old almost knocked him out.....

Looking at this fight, if Fury can get back to his best, he will make AJ look silly.

Interesting that AJ doesn't want to fight in America....

When will Fury be back?
Its not AJs fault Fury is out for so long.
Does Fury even want to fight AJ?

 

[TQ89]

I didn't enjoy this fight much. AJ played it too safe & i don't really seen any improvement in him. His whole plan was to just neutralize parker which he did quite effectively tbh.

Also Joseph couldn't execute his game plan,he didn't prove an easy target & made AJ work hard, he didn't do much offensively. But the ref looked a little fishy to me as he would break em up pretty quick when parker would close the distance. Not dissing AJ tonight cause he won but it is outside tactics like these that make it hard for me to support him. I still can't shake the last takam fight of my mind where he first allowed AJ not one but four sucker punches to takam after round 4 and then the incredibly dodgy KO. Everything seems so rigged whenever AJ fights

 

[Eagle_Eye]

When will Fury be back?
Its not AJs fault Fury is out for so long.
Does Fury even want to fight AJ?

He will fight sometime this year. I hope he takes couple of warm up fights before going after the belts.

Yes he wants to fight, it would be a massive payday. Remember he went and beat VK on his turf and did so fairly comfortably.

 

[Savak]

It was JP's fight to make, he was the one who talked about AJ having a bad chin and endurance problems, you would have expecting he would be the one trying to rush on the inside Mike Tyson style, taking risks, eating punches to land his own and trying to get the KO. Saw none of that from JP, his punches were very sloppy and his inside game was not good enough. A poor performance

AJ's performance was not spectacular either but he did what he needed to do to win so that is fair. But my suspicions on AJ's chin and endurance still remain. Wilder in the Ortiz fight has shown he can take a better punch and still be in the fight so b/w AJ and Wilder it is not going to be about who lands first and once Wilder goes into Windmill mode against AJ its going to get ugly for AJ and AJ has shown the propensity to gas, panic and Wilder has the better stamina.

Fury needs to get 2-3 warm up fights. He is my favorite boxer out of all of them

 

[shaz619]

It was JP's fight to make, he was the one who talked about AJ having a bad chin and endurance problems, you would have expecting he would be the one trying to rush on the inside Mike Tyson style, taking risks, eating punches to land his own and trying to get the KO. Saw none of that from JP, his punches were very sloppy and his inside game was not good enough. A poor performance

AJ's performance was not spectacular either but he did what he needed to do to win so that is fair. But my suspicions on AJ's chin and endurance still remain. Wilder in the Ortiz fight has shown he can take a better punch and still be in the fight so b/w AJ and Wilder it is not going to be about who lands first and once Wilder goes into Windmill mode against AJ its going to get ugly for AJ and AJ has shown the propensity to gas, panic and Wilder has the better stamina.

Fury needs to get 2-3 warm up fights. He is my favorite boxer out of all of them

AJ came in lighter and showed improved endurance although his output was poor due to JP's lateral movement but yes there are still some question marks, Paker's strength is working on the inside and every time he did get in close the ref stepped in which didn't help him. Not everyone can be a Tyson there is only one Iron Mike who mastered the peek a boo style of fighting like Floyd Patterson before him. What's interesting is that AJ struggled to cut off a midget, and movement is not Parker's foretay; Fury is a lot bigger then Parker and movement is his speciality, this is why in peak form he beats everyone, the only fight which would be dangerous for him would be Wilder.

 

[shaz619]

Apparently AJ will face Povetkin next [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] the russian is very sound technically and packs a punch but am tired of him facing all these smaller guys, he will coast to another ugly win by overwhelming the opponent with his size and reach. I want to see him face Wilder or Ortiz next.

 

[shaz619]

I didn't enjoy this fight much. AJ played it too safe & i don't really seen any improvement in him. His whole plan was to just neutralize parker which he did quite effectively tbh.

Also Joseph couldn't execute his game plan,he didn't prove an easy target & made AJ work hard, he didn't do much offensively. But the ref looked a little fishy to me as he would break em up pretty quick when parker would close the distance. Not dissing AJ tonight cause he won but it is outside tactics like these that make it hard for me to support him. I still can't shake the last takam fight of my mind where he first allowed AJ not one but four sucker punches to takam after round 4 and then the incredibly dodgy KO. Everything seems so rigged whenever AJ fights

Full credit to AJ on getting the win but a lot of people need to be real and I agree with you that it's not easy to support a guy who is so protected and the shtick we see is so obviously shady as hell, the judges cards were atrocious unless fans were scoring the fight from the POV of their favourite fighter alone and the behaviour of the ref was just so damn pre-meditated he almost was breaking them up before they even got in close and as you say the stuff in the past doesn't help either.

 

[shaz619]

These Joshua supporters are pure aids.

He deserves credit for the win but they can't stand any criticism at all, am biased yet others are making similar points. Casuals who are new to the sport may not understand that corruption does exist in the sport of boxing and it's not out of this world to assume that the BBBofC would protect one of the country's biggest draws not to mention the biased scoring in his favour; we've also seen similar instances in previous Joshua fights e.g Takam. This is not the first time something like this has happened in boxing history; more recently governing bodies like the WBA and WBC have desperately tried to cover up Canelo's failed drug test by repeatedly making statements in the public defending him.

 

[IMMY69]

Incredible..

People predicted a Parker win. Even in this thread.
AJ wins and now it’s “he fought s boring fight”, “corrup judges”, “corrupt ref”...

2+2=6 for some people, one in particulsr

 

[shaz619]

Incredible..

People predicted a Parker win. Even in this thread.
AJ wins and now it’s “he fought s boring fight”, “corrup judges”, “corrupt ref”...

2+2=6 for some people, one in particulsr

He deserves credit for the win he has three titles and is the no.1 active HW based on his resume, everything else that has been said doesn't change that at all but to overlook it is moronic as well

 

[shaz619]

I don't like Joshua but that doesn't mean am not going to say that he's the no.1 HW right now given his resume and wins over Parker / Wlad and I give him all the credit in the world, but it's my opinion based on the fight and recent history that there are other factors which deserve our attention as well like the home field advantage being taken to the next level, this isn't something which has never existed in Boxing before. Just because he's AJ it's not something which should be ignored, for me Id like to enjoy the sport when the playing field is levelled.

 

[IMMY69]

He deserves credit for the win he has three titles and is the no.1 active HW based on his resume, everything else that has been said doesn't change that at all but to overlook it is moronic as well

I come from a different place... in that I’ve met him, my friends have met him and he’s a really lovely bloke. He’s from the same part of london as me and he’s attended my mates’s Kids school fete.
He is just so genuinely nice. Time for everyone...

Boxing wise, a lot to improve upon. No way the real deal yet.
But in this respect he has only two fights that can define him. The wilder fight and the fury fight.
There is not much else out there that is gonna test him.

 

[WC-Passion]

Shaz619, mate, please tou’re talking absolute nonsense.

1. The ref was poor but AJ whatever little of inside boxing there was, AJ was actually doing well. Did you hear JP complain at the end? So this corruption stuff is out of line.
You have gone about the hype machine of AJ and the sky juggernaut but every pundit complained about the ref even during the match...

2. Hearn said that Wilder’s tram haven’t even tried to make contact.
Wilder doesn’t this fight... now it up to Wilder to react...

AJ is not the finished article by any means and there are a few questions he needs to answer but your complete and utter disdain of his character has been appalling. You really think his behaviour with fans post match and on a daily basis is fake? They way he greeted JP’s mother after the match? Fake again?

Meanwhile he’s still undefeated and holds four belts.

I don't see how people are saying that they are avoiding the Wilder fight, Hearn just came out and said negotiations could start as early as next week. Though I thought it was pathetic how they banned Wilder from getting in the ring afterwards, yet still said it would be beneficial for him to come...

 

[WC-Passion]

Shaz619, mate, please tou’re talking absolute nonsense.

1. The ref was poor but AJ whatever little of inside boxing there was, AJ was actually doing well. Did you hear JP complain at the end? So this corruption stuff is out of line.
You have gone about the hype machine of AJ and the sky juggernaut but every pundit complained about the ref even during the match...

2. Hearn said that Wilder’s tram haven’t even tried to make contact.
Wilder doesn’t this fight... now it up to Wilder to react...

AJ is not the finished article by any means and there are a few questions he needs to answer but your complete and utter disdain of his character has been appalling. You really think his behaviour with fans post match and on a daily basis is fake? They way he greeted JP’s mother after the match? Fake again?

Meanwhile he’s still undefeated and holds four belts.

Eddie Hearn dismissed comments made by Parker's trainer Kevin Barry who stated the Italian referee at Cardiff's Principality Stadium could not understand English when asked about how he would officiate before the bout.

Giuseppe Quartarone was criticised for not allowing the two fighters to engage when up close. Such tactics were critical to Parker, who had a six-inch reach disadvantage which showed as Joshua kept him at distance with the jab and left hooks.

"We are not blaming the referee but I wanted to fight and work on the inside," said Parker, 26. "I guess if I was allowed on the inside I could have done more and thrown more."

If that doesn't sound like "subtly" complaining about a corrupt referee, then I don't know what does.

 

[shaz619]

I come from a different place... in that I’ve met him, my friends have met him and he’s a really lovely bloke. He’s from the same part of london as me and he’s attended my mates’s Kids school fete.
He is just so genuinely nice. Time for everyone...

Boxing wise, a lot to improve upon. No way the real deal yet.
But in this respect he has only two fights that can define him. The wilder fight and the fury fight.
There is not much else out there that is gonna test him.

That's your opinion about him and I wont deny that he was very nice to you and everyone else. And I give him credit for turning his life around how he did it but I do not believe he is truly himself all the time and comes across very scripted, also very easily offended during interviews and comes across as someone very arrogant; then there are statements he has made on younger women, race and Mugabe which do not help him either. He's also sponsored by stub hub, a company that is being investigated for exploiting customers by the government. And that's all fine but he is portrayed as someone who can do no wrong and isn't always open given his media training which is supreme to be fair to him. But I can't relate to a plastic person but I can see how someone else would view him as a role model for opposing reasons and obviously he is from your area as well so I appreciate that your very loyal.

He proved his fitness tonight and the endurance is good but there is obviously some room for improvement like his movement and variety because his style is very orthodox, but it will always work quiet well against smaller fighters because he can overwhelm them with his size. Besides Wilder / Fury, there's Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce; they have just come into the sport but years from now a clash with AJ is possible and they have so much potential to. There's Ortiz as well but he's getting older and older, he's another guy that could be a very good test.

 

[shaz619]

I don't see how people are saying that they are avoiding the Wilder fight, Hearn just came out and said negotiations could start as early as next week. Though I thought it was pathetic how they banned Wilder from getting in the ring afterwards, yet still said it would be beneficial for him to come...

They are avoiding it for now....think about this, Wilder knocks out AJ and his stock plummets and then the Fury fight would be worth a lot less. The sport is a business in the modern era. Hearn is hardly prophet jesus sent from the heavens preaching the gospel truth, he does promote AJ. Now AJ may well be interested in Wilder or he may not be; but I don't believe for a second Hearn is in the near future. He is more keen on Whyte / Wilder

 

[IMMY69]

If that doesn't sound like "subtly" complaining about a corrupt referee, then I don't know what does.

I haven’t seen any of there press conferences or interviews afterwards, just the initial ringside interviews straight after the fight...

The referee was absolutely awful and everyone working for Sky agreed.
Was it advantageous for AJ? No sure because AJ was working well on the inside with his uppercuts.
If it was fixed that way, as someone is alluding too, again not sure if that works for AJ. AJ couldn’t use his extra height and weight to lean on JP...

Bottom line is that bad ref or not AJ was better on the night and I prefer to take JP’s immediate reaction then from an interview done later, after consultation with his manager.

 

[shaz619]

I hope David Haye's body holds up and he blows Bellew away [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] he'd be a great addition to the HW division, still to this day no one has taken out Chisora like he did who is such a big unit; that is my favourite performance of his. A prime Haye would give many of the top guys right now problems.

 

[IMMY69]

They are avoiding it for now....think about this, Wilder knocks out AJ and his stock plummets and then the Fury fight would be worth a lot less. The sport is a business in the modern era. Hearn is hardly prophet jesus sent from the heavens preaching the gospel truth, he does promote AJ. Now AJ may well be interested in Wilder or he may not be; but I don't believe for a second Hearn is in the near future. He is more keen on Whyte / Wilder

Modern era? Just look at some of fights in the 80’s and 90’s... eg Benn Vs Eubank.. what a farce that second fight was.

 

[shaz619]

Off course it was advantageous for AJ with his superior size and reach, his style is entirely dependent on using his jab. The smaller fighters best chances are on the inside regardless and Parker is better at close range then AJ; it is what he has depended on throughout his career because he doesn't have the size advantage over most of his opponents.

 

[shaz619]

Modern era? Just look at some of fights in the 80’s and 90’s... eg Benn Vs Eubank.. what a farce that second fight was.

The best fighting the best is less frequent now compared to the past, I never particularly rated Benn / Eubank saw them as British World Champions; they are the fellas who came up with the model which matchroom use these days, fight can after can , pad up your record and then cash out. Look at Kells resume for example.

 

[IMMY69]

Off course it was advantageous for AJ with his superior size and reach, his style is entirely dependent on using his jab. The smaller fighters best chances are on the inside regardless and Parker is better at close range then AJ; it is what he has depended on throughout his career because he doesn't have the size advantage over most of his opponents.

The referee was making me angry too.
Really put me off the fight. Fixed or not fixed, I don’t think it would have changed the outcome of the fight.
If AJ is hyped then same goes for JP.

I want see AJ in with Wilder or Fury... I won’t be paying £20 to see AJ fight anyone else

 

[shaz619]

The referee was making me angry too.
Really put me off the fight. Fixed or not fixed, I don’t think it would have changed the outcome of the fight.
If AJ is hyped then same goes for JP.

I want see AJ in with Wilder or Fury... I won’t be paying £20 to see AJ fight anyone else

I went to see it at a lounge and most weren't big boxing fans, they were very dissapointed with the fight. I didn't have too much of a problem with it and Povetkin / Price was great, but if I was watching it at home I'd only pay for a bigger fight but on paper I' have considered it for this one to and it may have been more exciting were it not for the ref. I wanted to JP to win but put my money on an AJ points win, he was the favourite regardless but I wouldn't have been shocked if Parker one which is why he deserves credit regardless but like I said when the playing field is not levelled it bothers me

 

[carbon11]

wasn't joshua born in watford in garston area which is a mix of social housing and expensive private housing he never grew up in london he went to school in kings langley which again is a pretty expensive surburban/semi rural area in hertfordshire.



know the area really well have quite a few relatives in the watford area

 

[shaz619]

wasn't joshua born in watford in garston area which is a mix of social housing and expensive private housing he never grew up in london he went to school in kings langley which again is a pretty expensive surburban/semi rural area in hertfordshire.



know the area really well have quite a few relatives in the watford area

Yeah, you're right. He was quiet attached to Watford but things got better once he left all the trouble there, the place is not too far from London though I think about 10 miles from Central

 

[90MPH]

wasn't joshua born in watford in garston area which is a mix of social housing and expensive private housing he never grew up in london he went to school in kings langley which again is a pretty expensive surburban/semi rural area in hertfordshire.



know the area really well have quite a few relatives in the watford area

Yes I live in Watford and he grew up in an area called Meridan estate - low income, and a magnet for drug dealers.

It’s well known he got sucked in the wrong crowd when he was growing up but he’s obviously redeemed himself now.

 

[shaz619]

Yes I live in Watford and he grew up in an area called Meridan estate - low income, and a magnet for drug dealers.

It’s well known he got sucked in the wrong crowd when he was growing up but he’s obviously redeemed himself now.

I've only been Watford when I had to pass through there to get a train to Harrow

 

[hadi123]

wasn't joshua born in watford in garston area which is a mix of social housing and expensive private housing he never grew up in london he went to school in kings langley which again is a pretty expensive surburban/semi rural area in hertfordshire.



know the area really well have quite a few relatives in the watford area

Yeah he was born in Watford, I am very close to there, I went to school etc there. I'm not sure if he went to Kings Langley school or not but that's a very rough school. I play cricket for Kings Langley cricket club.

 

[hadi123]

Yes I live in Watford and he grew up in an area called Meridan estate - low income, and a magnet for drug dealers.

It’s well known he got sucked in the wrong crowd when he was growing up but he’s obviously redeemed himself now.

Wow you live in Watford. I live in Hemel Hempstead so not far at all from you the beauty of PakPassion showing here.

To the fight itself, Joshua was the deserved winner, ref was a mug but fair play to Joseph Parker, the guy can take a punch. My dad especially had sympathy for Parker, obviously supported AJ but in January when Parker came to Heathrow when the fight was announced, my dad happened to be at Heathrow at the same time picking up his friend when he saw sky sports cameras everywhere and my dad shook hands and got a photo with Joseph Parker

 

[shaz619]

Interesting point is that legendary Emanuel Steward (may god rest his soul) always wanted the best sparring for Wladmir who was so dominant that all Parker, Wilder, Joshua and Fury were used as his sparring partners; Steward also predicted they all would be world champions

 

[shaz619]

Interesting point is that legendary Emanuel Steward (may god rest his soul) always wanted the best sparring for Wladmir who was so dominant that all Parker, Wilder, Joshua and Fury were used as his sparring partners; Steward also predicted they all would be world champions

And out of all these blokes Steward was always most impressed by Fury [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] before he was the finished article, there's a video online somehwere of him talking about Fury need to find it

 

[KingKhanWC]

And out of all these blokes Steward was always most impressed by Fury [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] before he was the finished article, there's a video online somehwere of him talking about Fury need to find it

He was probably thinking what we all have for years now, the heavyweight division is a joke.

It's madness Joshua who is at best an average fighter may be remembered and inducted into the hall of fame. Imagine him being born 25 years ago, he wouldn't even make it in the top 10.

Poor fight and clearly a fix with the ref coming in to help out Joshua. Parker threw some great bodyshots which were doing the damage but if you get to breath it off regularly you can recover easily.

I wont be watching him again unless he fights Wilder, who will knock him out clean within a few rounds or Tyson who will school him for 10 and then knock him out.

 

[shaz619]

He was probably thinking what we all have for years now, the heavyweight division is a joke.

It's madness Joshua who is at best an average fighter may be remembered and inducted into the hall of fame. Imagine him being born 25 years ago, he wouldn't even make it in the top 10.

Poor fight and clearly a fix with the ref coming in to help out Joshua. Parker threw some great bodyshots which were doing the damage but if you get to breath it off regularly you can recover easily.

I wont be watching him again unless he fights Wilder, who will knock him out clean within a few rounds or Tyson who will school him for 10 and then knock him out.

I don't think a hall of fame induction will be so easy, Wladmir to his credit beat literally everyone with ease during his prime and reigned for over a decade; that sugar coats the quality of opposition at times and he almost beat AJ who is seen as the top dog right now despite being 41+ and inactive for 2 years. Wlad and Vitali under Emanuel's guidance would have done alright in any HW era. Sparring is Sparring but he is rumoured to have embarrassed the likes of AJ and Wilder. Povetkin had been seen as a beast, Wlad beat him, he was expected to lose to Haye but Wlad beat him to.

The best way to achieve HOF status is by putting on amazing fights and beating the best during your era, if the quality is not great then the next metric is the length of your reign; Joe Louis never fought in the greatest era of HW boxing but he dominated for such a long time that he earned that HOF status. So I think AJ got some way to go before a HOF induction is even debated and while the division got some way to go, as far as the British scene is concerned we got a lot to be excited about with Joe Joyce and Dubois coming through; both have KO'd AJ in sparring lol still young and gaining experience but I like them, think you would really love Dubois's ruthlessness.

It's all about making the right fights, among the top 5-7 in the world the HW have a lot to offer. Same here, Wilder / AJ should be a lot more entertaining. What I'd like to see next is AJ / Wilder and Povetkin / Whyte, both on the same card would be fantastic.

 

[On_the_up]

Was a damp squib to be frank.

A glorified sparring session.

Joshua did enough to win but it was by no means a champion performance.

 

[IMMY69]

Finchley Boxing Club is in Barnet which is ten minutes drive from where I live in Mill Hill.

 

[IMMY69]

He was probably thinking what we all have for years now, the heavyweight division is a joke.

It's madness Joshua who is at best an average fighter may be remembered and inducted into the hall of fame. Imagine him being born 25 years ago, he wouldn't even make it in the top 10.

Poor fight and clearly a fix with the ref coming in to help out Joshua. Parker threw some great bodyshots which were doing the damage but if you get to breath it off regularly you can recover easily.

I wont be watching him again unless he fights Wilder, who will knock him out clean within a few rounds or Tyson who will school him for 10 and then knock him out.

He’s a slightly better version of Bruno and has had it easy in a division devoid of world class fighters.
Tyson Fury’s demise has hit the devision far worse then anyone expected.

Anyway I won’t be paying to view his fights unless it’s againdt Fury or Wilder.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't think a hall of fame induction will be so easy, Wladmir to his credit beat literally everyone with ease during his prime and reigned for over a decade; that sugar coats the quality of opposition at times and he almost beat AJ who is seen as the top dog right now despite being 41+ and inactive for 2 years. Wlad and Vitali under Emanuel's guidance would have done alright in any HW era. Sparring is Sparring but he is rumoured to have embarrassed the likes of AJ and Wilder. Povetkin had been seen as a beast, Wlad beat him, he was expected to lose to Haye but Wlad beat him to.

The best way to achieve HOF status is by putting on amazing fights and beating the best during your era, if the quality is not great then the next metric is the length of your reign; Joe Louis never fought in the greatest era of HW boxing but he dominated for such a long time that he earned that HOF status. So I think AJ got some way to go before a HOF induction is even debated and while the division got some way to go, as far as the British scene is concerned we got a lot to be excited about with Joe Joyce and Dubois coming through; both have KO'd AJ in sparring lol still young and gaining experience but I like them, think you would really love Dubois's ruthlessness.

It's all about making the right fights, among the top 5-7 in the world the HW have a lot to offer. Same here, Wilder / AJ should be a lot more entertaining. What I'd like to see next is AJ / Wilder and Povetkin / Whyte, both on the same card would be fantastic.

Yeah I agree it's not easy. Michael Spinks is one of those who was inducted but having only fought around 30 times but he was a two weight champion. If Joshua has a 30-0 career holding all the championship belts, they probably will induct him and if they do it will look strange being alongside some real great fighters.

Wilder lands it's over for AJ but again if the fights is in the UK he will be helped by the ref or the judges, not that it's likely to go the distance.

Whyte Povetkin should be a good fight but I'd back Dillian to win, he looks in great shape and has become a very good fighter since his loss to Joshua.

 

[KingKhanWC]

He’s a slightly better version of Bruno and has had it easy in a division devoid of world class fighters.
Tyson Fury’s demise has hit the devision far worse then anyone expected.

Anyway I won’t be paying to view his fights unless it’s againdt Fury or Wilder.

Imo Bruno was better. His speed was superiour and Bruno also had a decent chin.

 

[90MPH]

Wow you live in Watford. I live in Hemel Hempstead so not far at all from you the beauty of PakPassion showing here.

To the fight itself, Joshua was the deserved winner, ref was a mug but fair play to Joseph Parker, the guy can take a punch. My dad especially had sympathy for Parker, obviously supported AJ but in January when Parker came to Heathrow when the fight was announced, my dad happened to be at Heathrow at the same time picking up his friend when he saw sky sports cameras everywhere and my dad shook hands and got a photo with Joseph Parker

Yeah Parker fought well but just didn’t have the reach to trouble Josh.

The referee was a joke as well - breaking it up every time they got close in the inside.

 

[shaz619]

Yeah I agree it's not easy. Michael Spinks is one of those who was inducted but having only fought around 30 times but he was a two weight champion. If Joshua has a 30-0 career holding all the championship belts, they probably will induct him and if they do it will look strange being alongside some real great fighters.

Wilder lands it's over for AJ but again if the fights is in the UK he will be helped by the ref or the judges, not that it's likely to go the distance.

Whyte Povetkin should be a good fight but I'd back Dillian to win, he looks in great shape and has become a very good fighter since his loss to Joshua.

Spinks won the lineal LHW and HW titles as well and beat Larry Holmes twice, this is where the quality metric comes in and making a case for his induction was so easy. Same with Nas and even Amir who could be 1 or 2 more elite wins away. Joshua record is padded besides the Wlad and Parker win, while the Wlad win was impressive he was still very old and inactive for 2 years while Parker is another great win but like you say he doesn't stand up to even a prime Shannon Briggs. But if he has a long reign which involves wins over Wilder or a match fit Fury (neither are guaranteed wins) he could get in and there's room for improvement to but am not sure if he has a high ceiling at this stage based on what we have seen.

I agree, Whyte stock would rise big time as well if he got the win over Povetkin it's certainly a winnable fight for him.

 

[shaz619]

Imo Bruno was better. His speed was superiour and Bruno also had a decent chin.

It's incredible really, absolutely incredible; how we are putting a guy who was out boxing Lennox frigging Lewis for 6.5 rounds and beat an elite HW in the top 10 in Mcall who'd go on to stop Lewis on the same level as Anthony Joshua, someone who is still active as a HW, has a got long way to go and currently just boasts wins over a faded Wlad and Joseph Parker. It shocks me really, it's not as if AJ passes the eye test to the extent where he is dominating fighters like Lomachenko a guy who even I am not quick to put in the top 2 or 3 P4P until he defeats Garcia or Linares but the skill and ring generalship are all there. But oh my word, I initially read your 'imo' as 'lmao' that would be more fitting. There is no comparison between Bruno and AJ at the moment apart from that of popularity however Frank was genuinely a likeable guy and easily more superior technically and in terms of accomplishments.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Spinks won the lineal LHW and HW titles as well and beat Larry Holmes twice, this is where the quality metric comes in and making a case for his induction was so easy. Same with Nas and even Amir who could be 1 or 2 more elite wins away. Joshua record is padded besides the Wlad and Parker win, while the Wlad win was impressive he was still very old and inactive for 2 years while Parker is another great win but like you say he doesn't stand up to even a prime Shannon Briggs. But if he has a long reign which involves wins over Wilder or a match fit Fury (neither are guaranteed wins) he could get in and there's room for improvement to but am not sure if he has a high ceiling at this stage based on what we have seen.

I agree, Whyte stock would rise big time as well if he got the win over Povetkin it's certainly a winnable fight for him.

Yep to win the LHW and HW title was a great achievement. Interestingly he started off as a light middleweight(156lb) , went on to win the middleweight gold medal in the Olympics and when he fought Tyson he was over 210lb. He was considered a future all time great when he faced Tyson but he was blown away in 90 seconds. Now imagine Joshua was around in those days, Spinks would have beat him easily and let's not even entertain the thought of what a young Tyson would have done to him.

As you know in sport you are only as good as the opponent you beat. Casual fans see him beating up bums for a few years and the victory over Wlad think AJ is some sort of Ali or Tyson figure. I wouldn't mind such a comparison if he was even half their league but he isn't even 2% and Im not being dramatic.

 

[shaz619]

Yep to win the LHW and HW title was a great achievement. Interestingly he started off as a light middleweight(156lb) , went on to win the middleweight gold medal in the Olympics and when he fought Tyson he was over 210lb. He was considered a future all time great when he faced Tyson but he was blown away in 90 seconds. Now imagine Joshua was around in those days, Spinks would have beat him easily and let's not even entertain the thought of what a young Tyson would have done to him.

As you know in sport you are only as good as the opponent you beat. Casual fans see him beating up bums for a few years and the victory over Wlad think AJ is some sort of Ali or Tyson figure. I wouldn't mind such a comparison if he was even half their league but he isn't even 2% and Im not being dramatic.

And it wasn't just a matter of being a 2 weight world champion because even Adrien Broner is a 4 weight world champion in this era, but to win a lineal championship in 2 weights is extremely tough; many fighters have alphabet titles they have value but the lineal championship is the most esteemed honour; Spinks was expected to give Tyson his toughest fight and was ranked as the no.1 at Heavyweight during that time, it was a super fight that broke all PPV records in that moment and Tyson just blows him away in seconds literally lol Joshua himself highly rates Tyson I think he has him at no.2 in his all time best HW list, astagfirulla don't want to think about what Mike would do to AJ. Spinks dealt with Holmes who has arguably one of the best Jabs in HW boxing history, AJ would be nothing for him.

You're not being dramatic at all, and forget international ATG HW's he'd get beat by Henry Cooper and Frank Bruno as well.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's incredible really, absolutely incredible; how we are putting a guy who was out boxing Lennox frigging Lewis for 6.5 rounds and beat an elite HW in the top 10 in Mcall who'd go on to stop Lewis on the same level as Anthony Joshua, someone who is still active as a HW, has a got long way to go and currently just boasts wins over a faded Wlad and Joseph Parker. It shocks me really, it's not as if AJ passes the eye test to the extent where he is dominating fighters like Lomachenko a guy who even I am not quick to put in the top 2 or 3 P4P until he defeats Garcia or Linares but the skill and ring generalship are all there. But oh my word, I initially read your 'imo' as 'lmao' that would be more fitting. There is no comparison between Bruno and AJ at the moment apart from that of popularity however Frank was genuinely a likeable guy and easily more superior technically and in terms of accomplishments.

It was simply amazing Bruno finally managed to win the world title just one fight before his career ended, thoroughly deserved. Many must have had Mcall as the winner within the distance but Frank showed a lot heart to take the belt with a UD after a grueling 12 rounds. For those who haven't seen this fight, it's a great watch and arguably one of the great sporting performances of the 90's.

If you look at Franks loses all 5, James 'Bonecrusher' Smith, Tim Witherspoon, Iron Mike, Lennox Lewis and then Iron Mike again! These are some seriously tough and brilliant heavyweights. Csn anyone say with a straight face Joshua would win the titile off any of these guys when Frank fought them? I believe he would have been knocked out by all of them. Bruno managed over 10 rounds against Smith and Witherspoon and 7 v Lewis.

 

[shaz619]

Bruno: Better speed, better chin, more power, better on the inside, always goes to the body, more punch variety, decent feet, a mean left hook and a looping right. I'd say AJ's defence is better , that's about it; both are a little flat footed so there is not a lot to separate the two when it comes to feet but you'd be nuts to bet on AJ against Bruno, obviously AJ could still improve but I don't believe he has a high ceiling at this stage.

 

[shaz619]

It was simply amazing Bruno finally managed to win the world title just one fight before his career ended, thoroughly deserved. Many must have had Mcall as the winner within the distance but Frank showed a lot heart to take the belt with a UD after a grueling 12 rounds. For those who haven't seen this fight, it's a great watch and arguably one of the great sporting performances of the 90's.

If you look at Franks loses all 5, James 'Bonecrusher' Smith, Tim Witherspoon, Iron Mike, Lennox Lewis and then Iron Mike again! These are some seriously tough and brilliant heavyweights. Csn anyone say with a straight face Joshua would win the titile off any of these guys when Frank fought them? I believe he would have been knocked out by all of them. Bruno managed over 10 rounds against Smith and Witherspoon and 7 v Lewis.

I was just watching the fight highlights again, one of the greatest moments ever in british boxing:

He got beat by ATG's, and when he fought Lewis in that moment it was his prime long before he became undisputed champion because he relied more on speed and movement / explosiveness and Bruno had his moments before the stoppage, unfortunately his defence would improve later but early on it wasn't the best. However, no shame losing to those names. The division was very competitive in those days and to win that title was a huge achievement in itself, Cooper is brilliant but he didn't win during the golden age.

 

[KingKhanWC]

And it wasn't just a matter of being a 2 weight world champion because even Adrien Broner is a 4 weight world champion in this era, but to win a lineal championship in 2 weights is extremely tough; many fighters have alphabet titles they have value but the lineal championship is the most esteemed honour; Spinks was expected to give Tyson his toughest fight and was ranked as the no.1 at Heavyweight during that time, it was a super fight that broke all PPV records in that moment and Tyson just blows him away in seconds literally lol Joshua himself highly rates Tyson I think he has him at no.2 in his all time best HW list, astagfirulla don't want to think about what Mike would do to AJ. Spinks dealt with Holmes who has arguably one of the best Jabs in HW boxing history, AJ would be nothing for him.

You're not being dramatic at all, and forget international ATG HW's he'd get beat by Henry Cooper and Frank Bruno as well.

Bruno: Better speed, better chin, more power, better on the inside, always goes to the body, more punch variety, decent feet, a mean left hook and a looping right. I'd say AJ's defence is better , that's about it; both are a little flat footed so there is not a lot to separate the two when it comes to feet but you'd be nuts to bet on AJ against Bruno, obviously AJ could still improve but I don't believe he has a high ceiling at this stage.

Do you think Tyson won the fight before he stepped into the ring? As you said it was the biggest in terms of revenue then and before the fight there was a lot of promotion, pre fight build up etc. Tyson got into his mind and some suggest Spinks was actually scared of facing him. I dont believe he was scared as such, he;s a prize fighter he knows what the game is about and was a great boxer but for sure Mike had the mental edge as they stepped into the ring.

Henry Cooper is a legend in my book. What a great left hand esp his left hook which also put Ali on the floor. Ali continued to say that was one if not the hardest shot he has been hit by. What's more astonishing, he was born in the 1930's , had over 50 fights many of them brutal and he remained fit and strong most of his life until he passed a few years ago.

 

[shaz619]

Do you think Tyson won the fight before he stepped into the ring? As you said it was the biggest in terms of revenue then and before the fight there was a lot of promotion, pre fight build up etc. Tyson got into his mind and some suggest Spinks was actually scared of facing him. I dont believe he was scared as such, he;s a prize fighter he knows what the game is about and was a great boxer but for sure Mike had the mental edge as they stepped into the ring.

Henry Cooper is a legend in my book. What a great left hand esp his left hook which also put Ali on the floor. Ali continued to say that was one if not the hardest shot he has been hit by. What's more astonishing, he was born in the 1930's , had over 50 fights many of them brutal and he remained fit and strong most of his life until he passed a few years ago.

I do think he may have been frightened much like many Tyson opponents but it wouldn't have made a difference if he wasn't, may have lasted a little longer but that's about it. In the end though that is usually exageratted a bit so that people can comprehend the demolition job but the fact is Spinks was an elite ATG / HOF fighter who got caught by another ATG at his absolute peak and couldn't deal with it, heck Tyson has stated in interviews that before fights he is usually scared to death himself but he tries to imagine himself to be invincible which helps him relax; but in such contests like you say it doesn't make a lot of difference when two champions are going at it but that's not to say Tyson didn't get in his head, he was great at that; Fury did the same with Wlad, it's all warfare in the end.

He may have potentially stopped Ali as well I believe his trainer bought him some time when he was dropped ? but in the rematch Ali beat him convincingly, for anyone to have even moments against the greatest during his peak is something to boast in itself. And am not sure mate, I think Sir Henry is an Alien lol him and Ali ended up being very good friends, he always visited him when he came to the UK, Ali loved our country

 

[KingKhanWC]

I do think he may have been frightened much like many Tyson opponents but it wouldn't have made a difference if he wasn't, may have lasted a little longer but that's about it. In the end though that is usually exageratted a bit so that people can comprehend the demolition job but the fact is Spinks was an elite ATG / HOF fighter who got caught by another ATG at his absolute peak and couldn't deal with it, heck Tyson has stated in interviews that before fights he is usually scared to death himself but he tries to imagine himself to be invincible which helps him relax; but in such contests like you say it doesn't make a lot of difference when two champions are going at it but that's not to say Tyson didn't get in his head, he was great at that; Fury did the same with Wlad, it's all warfare in the end.

He may have potentially stopped Ali as well I believe his trainer bought him some time when he was dropped ? but in the rematch Ali beat him convincingly, for anyone to have even moments against the greatest during his peak is something to boast in itself. And am not sure mate, I think Sir Henry is an Alien lol him and Ali ended up being very good friends, he always visited him when he came to the UK, Ali loved our country

Yes was there ever a chap who wasn't scared of facing Tyson in the ring.

If I can recall in that he was cut up very bad which is why the fight was stopped? He came on 'This is your Life' for Ali too and you could see both men have a great amount of respect for each other.

It's depressing to think there was so many great heavyweights throughout history until recently where fighters like Joshua are seen as superhuman by the now casual, hyped up fans who have no clue. Most of those who went to Cardiff have no clue about boxing at all, it's now marketed as a 'night out' event.

 

[Tubs]

Scorecards were terrible- Parker never had a chance!

That's not to say that AJ lost, he definitely didn't, but it was no way a shut-out like the scores suggested.