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gazza619

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I wish to bring attention to a deeply concerning issue that continues to plague Indian society – the public harassment and sexual molestation of women by anti-social elements. Unfortunately, this behaviour often goes unchallenged, as evidenced by the recent case of the Rohtak sisters who bravely fought back against molesters on a crowded bus while their co-passengers remained silent.

This incident is not an isolated one. Millions of women face such indignities daily, from inappropriate touches and groping to lewd remarks, all while navigating the streets and public spaces of our towns and cities. The lack of response from bystanders is deeply troubling. One could argue that this apathy stems from an education system that fails to instill a sense of civic duty and an understandable reluctance to engage with a notoriously corrupt and sluggish police and justice system. However, the less discussed but crucial point is that it is every citizen's duty to protest against such acts and, if necessary, make a citizen's arrest, using only the force reasonably required to bring the offender to the nearest police station.

Historically, some British administrators and chroniclers of the partition and communal riots labelled the Indian populace as cowardly, suggesting that courage and bravery were only displayed in mobs, not individually. The increasing incidents of gender crimes and the bystanders' unwillingness to intervene seem to support this disparaging view.

It is imperative that we, as self-respecting citizens – particularly men – take a stand against these anti-social elements to reclaim our public spaces for law-abiding individuals.

Furthermore, the teaching community in our classrooms has a vital role to play in this transformation. Educators must focus on issues related to women's equal rights and instill norms of civil behaviour and good manners in male students from a young age. This will help them mature into responsible adults who respect the rights of women.

 
Cowards is a bit extreme.

Many of the onlookers perhaps don't see it as an issue and therefore don't intervene.
 
Historically, some British administrators and chroniclers of the partition and communal riots labelled the Indian populace as cowardly, suggesting that courage and bravery were only displayed in mobs, not individually. The increasing incidents of gender crimes and the bystanders' unwillingness to intervene seem to support this disparaging view.

It is imperative that we, as self-respecting citizens – particularly men – take a stand against these anti-social elements to reclaim our public spaces for law-abiding individuals.

Furthermore, the teaching community in our classrooms has a vital role to play in this transformation. Educators must focus on issues related to women's equal rights and instill norms of civil behaviour and good manners in male students from a young age. This will help them mature into responsible adults who respect the rights of women.


That bit is definitely true, it's why you never see them challenging anyone when they live abroad, but at home where they are in the majority, suddenly they love violence as a means to resolve disputes.
 
Cowards is a bit extreme.

Many of the onlookers perhaps don't see it as an issue and therefore don't intervene.
Well if the onlookers do not perceive this issue as significant then this indifference could arguably be worse and dangerous than being cowardly. Don't you think so?
 
Well if the onlookers do not perceive this issue as significant then this indifference could arguably be worse and dangerous than being cowardly. Don't you think so?
Yes I agree with that.

Cowards are better people than rapist and molesters.
 
Women and minorities are not safe in chaiwala Modi's India. We often hear rape incidents. People are radicalized.

I don't know why any female should go there as a tourist. Very risky.
 
I am keen to hear the thoughts of @Bhaijaan @Devadwal @Rajdeep @Hikaru @Cover Drive Six @Mesozoic @Hitman @GoogleToggle

I wanted to take a moment to emphasise the importance of keeping our discussion focused on the underlying issue in India, rather than comparing our respective countries. This isn't about proving that one country is better or worse than the other, but rather about collaboratively finding the best way forward to address the issue at hand
 
Why are admins even allowing such threads? If we open a thread 'Is Pakistan a country of losers?' will it be allowed?

I understand OP is upset with the phainta his cricket team has recieved on 3 consecutive weekends but that doesn't mean you take your frustration on keyboard by opening illogical threads.

Pls close this thread down.
 
Why are admins even allowing such threads? If we open a thread 'Is Pakistan a country of losers?' will it be allowed?

I understand OP is upset with the phainta his cricket team has recieved on 3 consecutive weekends but that doesn't mean you take your frustration on keyboard by opening illogical threads.

Pls close this thread down.
It appears you have not read the article fully.
 
I am keen to hear the thoughts of @Bhaijaan @Devadwal @Rajdeep @Hikaru @Cover Drive Six @Mesozoic @Hitman @GoogleToggle

I wanted to take a moment to emphasise the importance of keeping our discussion focused on the underlying issue in India, rather than comparing our respective countries. This isn't about proving that one country is better or worse than the other, but rather about collaboratively finding the best way forward to address the issue at hand
Wow… the frustration and the personal-level degradation from some Pakistani fans after the Asia Cup is quite visible. These issues exist in every country, so what’s the point of singling out India specifically? Your Madrasa Mullas are busy with molestation and child sexual abuses, did you ever get a chance to read and discuss those topics? People from Muslim countries should be the last ones to lecture about women’s rights..lol. Look in the mirror first before pointing fingers.

I only replied because you tagged me, otherwise, I don’t care. These kinds of threads against India are pretty common in this forum.
 
Wow… the frustration and the personal-level degradation from some Pakistani fans after the Asia Cup is quite visible. These issues exist in every country, so what’s the point of singling out India specifically? Your Madrasa Mullas are busy with molestation and child sexual abuses, did you ever get a chance to read and discuss those topics? People from Muslim countries should be the last ones to lecture about women’s rights..lol. Look in the mirror first before pointing fingers.

I only replied because you tagged me, otherwise, I don’t care. These kinds of threads against India are pretty common in this forum.
What does Asia Cup has anything to do with this topic? I believe that if we do not acknowledge the existence of an issue, it becomes nearly impossible to reach a productive and effective conclusion. Ignoring the problem won't solve it; instead, we need to confront it head-on to find a resolution.

Additionally, if your response is that similar situations occur in other countries, it doesn't help our case. This kind of reasoning only reflects a lack of maturity and a refusal to face the reality of your own situation.
 
What does Asia Cup has anything to do with this topic? I believe that if we do not acknowledge the existence of an issue, it becomes nearly impossible to reach a productive and effective conclusion. Ignoring the problem won't solve it; instead, we need to confront it head-on to find a resolution.

Additionally, if your response is that similar situations occur in other countries, it doesn't help our case. This kind of reasoning only reflects a lack of maturity and a refusal to face the reality of your own situation.
Dude, I don’t mind discussing these topics, I have done it plenty of times before. But here, your intentions are crystal clear. Talking about maturity? Your posts and maturity are poles apart, they don’t sync at all.
 
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Own chairman steals the trophy and ran away and accusing others as cowards

#TrophyChor

:misbah
 
Dude, I don’t mind discussing these topics,
please discuss and elaborate your view point. It is essential to understand that the measures you are considering could potentially benefit not just India, but other countries as well.
 
Own chairman steals the trophy and ran away and accusing others as cowards

#TrophyChor

:misbah
This is not a laughing matter. The respect and integrity of women is at stake here. It is someone’s mother, it is someone’s sister, it is someone’s daughter. It could be yours. Therefore, please take this seriously.
 
Excellent thread, I’ve never known a more cowardly group of people in general.

I get it, nationalism is a big thing in some parts of asia, but to so proudly defend injustices, it is in-built genetic cowardice. However, these actions threaten their own family’s.

I don’t know what special treatment they get from the government for behaving in this manner, and on the other hand, they are inherently fearful & that fear forces them to join the mob, or risk becoming victims themselves.

What is there to fear anyway, the Indian army? They are more like the Teletubby army. It’s not neccesarily 1000 strong, when that 1000 is one big pack of golden hens.
 
Cowards is a bit extreme.

Many of the onlookers perhaps don't see it as an issue and therefore don't intervene.

If coward ever had a physical form, it would look like an Indian.

Just look at the contractors who work here, you can’t tell me you don’t instinctively think - what a cowardly little person.

You need to understand they don’t have our hearts, so we need to stop this act of reaching out with an olive branch - please do so, but just make sure that branch is sharp & pointy.
 
This is not a laughing matter. The respect and integrity of women is at stake here. It is someone’s mother, it is someone’s sister, it is someone’s daughter. It could be yours. Therefore, please take this seriously.

Dont let me open my mouth how women are treated in Afghanistan and other Islamic world. It is ironical that you guys are so worrier about womens in India. Given a choice, majority of women would choose to live in India over Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other such shinning light countries.
 
Dont let me open my mouth how women are treated in Afghanistan and other Islamic world. It is ironical that you guys are so worrier about womens in India. Given a choice, majority of women would choose to live in India over Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other such shinning light countries.
I see. So do you think the article is based on fake news and propaganda?
 
Making umpteen number of threads bashing Indians will not ease the thrashing in Asia Cup. :mv


Only time can heal the wounds and lacerations.
 
I see. So do you think the article is based on fake news and propaganda?
India may not be safe for women in general due to sexual harassment. But they at least have the freedom to go out without a male guardian, pursue any kind of education and work, marry any person they want or be independent not living in the shadow of a man.
I am not going to say women in Islamic countries would choose India over their own countries, but they will surely if they have the freedoms that Indian women have if implemented in their lands.👍
 
The conditions in India are quite unfortunate and need immediate attention of authorities.
I totally agree. What concerns me even more that the Indian posters like @Rajdeep & @Cover Drive Six don’t seem to think it is an important issue. Their excuse is that women from lesser countries like Afghanistan would still prefer to live in India. I see this as rather shameful if I am being totally honest.
 
Excellent thread, I’ve never known a more cowardly group of people in general.

I get it, nationalism is a big thing in some parts of asia, but to so proudly defend injustices, it is in-built genetic cowardice. However, these actions threaten their own family’s.

I don’t know what special treatment they get from the government for behaving in this manner, and on the other hand, they are inherently fearful & that fear forces them to join the mob, or risk becoming victims themselves.

What is there to fear anyway, the Indian army? They are more like the Teletubby army. It’s not neccesarily 1000 strong, when that 1000 is one big pack of golden hens.
What really worries me is that some posters are bringing Asia cup discussion in this thread which is totally irrelevant. They are more concerned that their asia cup trophy was stolen.

If an Indian mother, daughter or sister got raped that is a secondary issue for them. I am pretty sure there must be some really good Indian men out there who would fight for women rights. May be they are more in South India. I dont know.
 
I totally agree. What concerns me even more that the Indian posters like @Rajdeep & @Cover Drive Six don’t seem to think it is an important issue. Their excuse is that women from lesser countries like Afghanistan would still prefer to live in India. I see this as rather shameful if I am being totally honest.

That is not an excuse but a fact. Everyone knows India has problem with women and rape but that is miniscule compared to the countries Afghanistan where Taliban bans women to study, go out of house, listen to music etc. So being a fellow muslim you should be first raising your voice against your own community before lecturing others. Afterall, people can only do outside charity if their house in order. That is not the case here. I can understand your frustration and also aware what is the trigger point of it but dnt take frustration of your inept cricketers on that keyboard of yours.
 
India may not be safe for women in general due to sexual harassment. But they at least have the freedom to go out without a male guardian, pursue any kind of education and work, marry any person they want or be independent not living in the shadow of a man.
I am not going to say women in Islamic countries would choose India over their own countries, but they will surely if they have the freedoms that Indian women have if implemented in their lands.👍
I believe your post is truly poor and disappointing and deserves to be framed and showcased in Indian schools on how not to behave. Your perspective highlights a mindset that will kill India's progress.
 
That is not an excuse but a fact. Everyone knows India has problem with women and rape but that is miniscule compared to the countries Afghanistan where Taliban bans women to study, go out of house, listen to music etc. So being a fellow muslim you should be first raising your voice against your own community before lecturing others. Afterall, people can only do outside charity if their house in order. That is not the case here. I can understand your frustration and also aware what is the trigger point of it but dnt take frustration of your inept cricketers on that keyboard of yours.
So you think a country where women are raped is better than a country where women are not allowed to go to school? I am disgusted
:facepalm:
 
Good to see @gazza619 express genuine concern at the plight of women in India, wink wink.
I wanted to bring up an idea for discussion. I was wondering if we could consider adding a section to the school curriculum in India that focuses on the protection and rights of Indian women. This section could also include the importance of men protecting women irrespective of their caste, religion or ethnicity.

Given the diverse culture of India, it is essential for the younger generations to learn about respect and equality from an early age. I believe that incorporating these topics into the curriculum could help instil these values in students and contribute to a more inclusive and respectful society.
 
I wanted to bring up an idea for discussion. I was wondering if we could consider adding a section to the school curriculum in India that focuses on the protection and rights of Indian women. This section could also include the importance of men protecting women irrespective of their caste, religion or ethnicity.

Given the diverse culture of India, it is essential for the younger generations to learn about respect and equality from an early age. I believe that incorporating these topics into the curriculum could help instil these values in students and contribute to a more inclusive and respectful society.

Sounds like a plan, bruh. The indian PM must know about this; send your thoughts to narendramodi@gmail.com

He'll give your idea a great deal of thought especially if you mention you're a pakistani.
 


Please tell us from where Pakistan importing female doctors, actors, singers, and who are the girls dancing at clubs to Atif aslam’s songs.

Thanks
From a system and society that's far worse to their women than any other South Asian nation bar Afganistan.

Where are threads about your own women @HalBass9 ? Nowhere, because the condition of women was never really the concern, it's all about a license to insult hiding behind a topic.

We both know what it is, so stop pretending now.
 



From a system and society that's far worse to their women than any other South Asian nation bar Afganistan.

Where are threads about your own women @HalBass9 ? Nowhere, because the condition of women was never really the concern, it's all about a license to insult hiding behind a topic.

We both know what it is, so stop pretending now.

You are more than welcome to create one. But, I can assure you, no one will suggest that rape is better than uneducated female.

Get upset at your fellow countrymen.
 
You are more than welcome to create one. But, I can assure you, no one will suggest that rape is better than uneducated female.

Get upset at your fellow countrymen.
Yes, why do one when we can do both, right? That's the Pakistani way.

And no thanks, I have better things to do than start threads on Pakistani women. That should be your job, if you care.
 
Yes, why do one when we can do both, right? That's the Pakistani way.

And no thanks, I have better things to do than start threads on Pakistani women. That should be your job, if you care.

No, I’d rather criticize extremists disguised as rational being.
 
No, I’d rather criticize extremists disguised as rational being.
So you would avoid self-reflection, pretend like you care about someone's sister while your own is subjected to worse abuse in your own house.

Typical of a keyboard warrior. I am out now, wasted enough time already.
 
Hats off to Indian posters who deliberately and willingly waste their time in these troll threads.
 
No, it isn't. But the intent with which the thread has been created is.
Only the creator knows the true intent behind certain actions or decisions. However, the lack of seriousness displayed on this matter raises major concerns about the thought process prevalent among Indian men today.

By not taking these issues seriously, we risk perpetuating harmful attitudes and behaviours that can have far-reaching consequences. I urge you to consider the gravity of this concern and reflect on how we can collectively work towards fostering a more thoughtful and responsible mindset.
 



From a system and society that's far worse to their women than any other South Asian nation bar Afganistan.

Where are threads about your own women @HalBass9 ? Nowhere, because the condition of women was never really the concern, it's all about a license to insult hiding behind a topic.

We both know what it is, so stop pretending now.

Are women safe in Pakistan?

Hats off to Indian posters who deliberately and willingly waste their time in these troll threads.
When your fellow indian poster @Rajdeep says “Everyone knows India has problem with women and rape but that is miniscule compared to the countries Afghanistan where Taliban bans women to study, go out of house, listen to music etc”, don’t you think it is high time you at least show some condemnation?
 
That is not an excuse but a fact. Everyone knows India has problem with women and rape but that is miniscule compared to the countries Afghanistan where Taliban bans women to study, go out of house, listen to music etc. So being a fellow muslim you should be first raising your voice against your own community before lecturing others. Afterall, people can only do outside charity if their house in order. That is not the case here. I can understand your frustration and also aware what is the trigger point of it but dnt take frustration of your inept cricketers on that keyboard of yours.

Afghan women issues are different to Indian women. Afghan women don't get to mix in society without wearing full burkas and have their roles assigned to them based on gender.

In India, women get more social freedom, but this actually leads to more sexual harrassment and exposure to incel hatred from enraged Indian men who resent them not being subservient and following traditional roles which their parents brought them up with.
 
When your fellow indian poster @Rajdeep says “Everyone knows India has problem with women and rape but that is miniscule compared to the countries Afghanistan where Taliban bans women to study, go out of house, listen to music etc”, don’t you think it is high time you at least show some condemnation?
First of all Rajdeep is not my fellow poster. I’m a Pakistani and understand Pakistan’s issues much better than you.

India may have a reputation for being a very unsafe place for women but what makes you think Pakistan is any better? Afghanistan I’m not sure but i’ve heard horror stories of women travelling to Afghanistan alone and getting sexually harassed. Iran falls in the same bucket despite being a religious society.

Instead of signalling out India, you should yourself why in conservative religious societies men are so desperate and frustrated that they have such strong urge to rape someone. This is not a competition. Pointing fingers at India and taking comfort from the fact that their rape numbers are higher, will not make your society better.

In fact I can argue Pakistan is worse than India in that regard where honour killings are norm, pedophilia is not looked down upon and little girls and boys get raped. Woken can’t go anywhere without male chaperones. Pakistan is a sick sick society and this is mildly putting it.

On a Pakistani forum you should be discussing Pakistan issues. What India is or isn’t should be none of your concern
 
Afghan women issues are different to Indian women. Afghan women don't get to mix in society without wearing full burkas and have their roles assigned to them based on gender.

In India, women get more social freedom, but this actually leads to more sexual harrassment and exposure to incel hatred from enraged Indian men who resent them not being subservient and following traditional roles which their parents brought them up with.
For me the biggest worry is that Indian women rape is being treated as a minor issue as highlighted by @Rajdeep who used the word “minuscule”.
 
So you would avoid self-reflection, pretend like you care about someone's sister while your own is subjected to worse abuse in your own house.

Typical of a keyboard warrior. I am out now, wasted enough time already.

No, Chacha ji, you’re projecting, and it’s quite obvious why. You don’t need to defend your fellow countrymen who tried to justify their country’s negative image by saying “rape is better than an uneducated female.”

Rape is universally recognized as one of the most heinous crimes against women. It happens across the world, including in Pakistan, and you’ll always find me condemning it, without any “ifs” or “buts.”

Don’t lower yourself to the point of defending such a vile statement. Saying “rape is better than an uneducated female” is not just ignorant, it’s a moral failure.

Usually I avoid such threads, but had to ask when the far right Hindutva extremists tried to defend this with one of the most ridiculous excuse. You have to criticize extremists.
 
On a Pakistani forum you should be discussing Pakistan issues. What India is or isn’t should be none of your concern

That would be fair if this was a Pakistani forum where only Pakistani issues were discussed by people of Pakistan. But there are also a huge number of Indian patriots posting here pointing out issues with Pakistan and Islam, so unless you are expecting a one sided echo chamber, it's only natural that India and hindutva will come under scrutiny as well.
 
That would be fair if this was a Pakistani forum where only Pakistani issues were discussed by people of Pakistan. But there are also a huge number of Indian patriots posting here pointing out issues with Pakistan and Islam, so unless you are expecting a one sided echo chamber, it's only natural that India and hindutva will come under scrutiny as well.
Then mods need to do a better job of discouraging those posts from indians. It is a given where there are indians they will bring with them their toxic traits.

My issue is with Pakistanis who pretend no issues exist in Pakistan and find escape in issues on the other side of the border. This is why the society has failed to progress beyond cultural wars.
 
I’m a Pakistani and understand Pakistan’s issues much better than you.
Your confidence is certainly admirable, but I can't help but wonder if this is the type of behaviour you subject the people around you too. It comes across as somewhat bullying, and I would appreciate it if you could take some time to reflect on this.
 
Then mods need to do a better job of discouraging those posts from indians. It is a given where there are indians they will bring with them their toxic traits.

My issue is with Pakistanis who pretend no issues exist in Pakistan and find escape in issues on the other side of the border. This is why the society has failed to progress beyond cultural wars.
The mods are doing a fantastic job here. We all try to stick to the topic of every discussion. Its a shame that you don’t find any issue when an Indian poster suggest that his women getting raped is a minuscule event.

Of course there are any issues in Pakistan and we all openly criticise Pakistan in the threads that relate to Pakistan.
 
Then mods need to do a better job of discouraging those posts from indians. It is a given where there are indians they will bring with them their toxic traits.

My issue is with Pakistanis who pretend no issues exist in Pakistan and find escape in issues on the other side of the border. This is why the society has failed to progress beyond cultural wars.

I agree with @gazza619 here, being a mod on such sites is not easy work. The only way to get only constructive criticism on Pakistan affairs is to ban jingo bingo trolls from across the border altogether. But that is not going to happen for several reasons, and in that case you are going to see lots of back and forth between Indian and Pakistan posters.

All I can suggest is you ignore the threads which don't interest you and post in the ones which do. There are plenty of critical threads about Pakistan, just participate in those, or start a new thread if you can't find one.
 
There are plenty of critical threads about Pakistan, just participate in those, or start a new thread if you can't find one.

Not really. There are zero threads on social cultural problems in Pak .. only critical ones I see are political threads bashing PTI or PMLN.
 
Not really. There are zero threads on social cultural problems in Pak .. only critical ones I see are political threads bashing PTI or PMLN.

The threads do exist but India/Pakistan one-upmanship means the atmosphere is not conducive for a genuine discussion.
 
The threads do exist but India/Pakistan one-upmanship means the atmosphere is not conducive for a genuine discussion.

They don't exist and u know it .. and anytime an indian poster posts such a thread, it either gets deleted or merged. This is not a sign of a healthy introspective society.
 
India is the rape capital of the world.

If someone pays me a billion pounds, I would still choose not to visit India.
 
They don't exist and u know it .. and anytime an indian poster posts such a thread, it either gets deleted or merged. This is not a sign of a healthy introspective society.

This is going to develop into a he said/she said exchange so pointless. There is no healthy introspective society when jingo bingo trolls from India are coming here spamming the threads with pro-hindutva propaganda. Best just stick to the topic and leave the mods to do their job, otherwise must be other sites which suit your purpose better.
 



From a system and society that's far worse to their women than any other South Asian nation bar Afganistan.

Where are threads about your own women @HalBass9 ? Nowhere, because the condition of women was never really the concern, it's all about a license to insult hiding behind a topic.

We both know what it is, so stop pretending now.
Have you ever been mistaken for a women and molested?
 
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