The biggest disappointment with the PTI govt and IK

[Savak]

My dad was never a pti fan or an ik fan but from day 1 he kept criticizing them and IK for his complete lack of preparation and planning for assuming office.

Normally my mom and I try to defend him as much as possible but now even we are very hopelessly over powered and completely devoid of many arguments against the criticism against the current govt.

My dad has actually interacted with IK on the health task force and has worked with many pti ministers and officials. His biggest overwhelming criticism has been the present ruling parties complete lack of preparation for assuming office and the challenges being faced by the country

Lol, even he now makes the argument say what you want about some of the PML-N and PPP ministers, even if some of them were corrupt, atleast they were competent. He also states there are so many corrupt ministers in the pti and the fact that so many people in the cabinet are technocrats and army officials clearly showed how shallow the pti party turned out to be where they have been exposed as a one man party with no quality people in that party

He even talked about the negative gdp growth rate and how the pti govt was falling into the same debt trap as previous regimes. What tabdeeli has the current prime minister and party actually achieved in their first two years in power? If there is an election today, do you think they will win.

And yes, my dad has been a huge critic for ptis and ik handling of the Covid 19 crisis

Lol, we were completely devoid of any arguments today. I can testify some of my pro pti friends have now turned brutally critical of pti and have more or less turned their backs on IK now.

Even I sometimes ask myself, IK went through 22 years of greasing in the political battlefield to win the election, only to put in this kind of performance where literally every indicator in the country is showing a downslide.

I think the criticism on the complete lack of preparation and proper planning based on the ground realities is completely justified and the Asad Umar Finance Minister fiasco for me was the biggest example

 

[CanadianG00se]

For starter, MR Khan needs to start looking out for his own people and stop meddling with India. His obssession with Modi/India on twitter is cringeworthy. He is truly Trump of the East.

 

[Kianig89]

This happens when you paint a perfect picture IK gave too much optimism but Alas he might not win 20 seats next time

 

[khanz141]

I don't understand this concept of some people to justify corruption.

Corruption cancels out whatever competence one has because doing anything competent exposes the corruption, in which case why be competent but rather find loopholes and serve oneself temporarily.

 

[Mamoon]

Any sensible person who has experienced Imran and his government’s shambolic performance first hand will come to the same conclusion as your father.

This is by far the most ill-prepared, incompetent and erratic government in Pakistan’s chaotic history. It is a complete circus show.

That is why it is rapidly losing popular support because the common man is fed up with their incapability to live up to the tall claims and promises that they made in their election campaigns.

Simply put, there has been no tabdeeli in any shape or form, that is what attracted the masses in the first place.

They are not prepared because their political campaign centered around criticizing, abusing, insulting and defaming other governments and as they say in Urdu, “lambi lambi chorna”.

They made unrealistic, attention-grabbing promises and showed “sabz baagh” to the nation who are now rightly demanding PTI to execute the tabdeeli that they promised.

PTI’s tactic of using the failures of the previous government cannot work forever. After 2 years, they are still blaming the previous regimes and this will not change even if this joker government lasts for another 5 years.

PTI have developed a very convenient strategy: anything that goes right is because of them, but anything that goes wrong is because of the previous governments.

Basically, they are taking credit for anything good and deflecting the blame on others for anything bad.

The only people who are now supporting this shambles are the overseas PTI cult-members who talk big from their armchairs but if you ask them to come back and live in Naya Pakistan that they believe in, they come up with a million excuses.

These people do not bear the brunt of the shambolic incompetence of this government. In fact, they only get richer and get more value for their $/£/€ as Imran plunges our economy to the ground and achieved severe decline in GDP growth rate.

Furthermore, these people are also victims of intense social media propaganda and fabrication. If you go by PTI Facebook and Twitter, you would think that they have revolutionized the country.

For example, these cult-followers have never stepped foot in Peshawar or KP in their lives but they would still argue that PTI have transformed the province and everything is better now.

These people have lost their capacity to think and have been brainwashed beyond repair. If Imran Khan tells them that the earth is flat they will believe him.

PTI is ruining everything and they have no idea what they are doing. Hiding behind the failures of the previous governments is pointless when they are only making things worse.

Their era will be remembered as one of the darkest periods in our history but InshAllah the circus show will be over soon.

The nation has seen that they are nothing but a pack of incompetent and clueless liars and their masters, the military establishment, are also disillusioned and have started to believe that backing them was a mistake.

This torture will definitely end in 2023 if not earlier.

 

[JaDed]

I don't understand this concept of some people to justify corruption.

Corruption cancels out whatever competence one has because doing anything competent exposes the corruption, in which case why be competent but rather find loopholes and serve oneself temporarily.

It shows your venue as USA, what is corruption in South Asia is lobbying in states. The only place where corruption doesn't occur is at lower level in America but the taxes are high enough to make sure that govn job pays well.

East India company was corrupt as well.

Irrespective PTI doesn't seem as bad PML or PPP, only Army seemed better.(to an outsider)

 

[MenInG]

Common man gets upset with any government that doesnt feed it.

In the Middle East, Govts bribe masses to stay quiet with money because they could do that with oil money

Its different now and we are seeing some effects of "common man being upset" also.

People need to see the bigger picture of the legacy of accountability (even if done in name in same cases) that IK has introduced in Pakistan. True that it may come to bite him but what he has done now cannot be reversed. All govts in Pakistan will remain in such pressure forever which is a good sign for our democracy.

Too much negativity is also not good.

 

[Mamoon]

Speaking of lack of preparation, let me share a light-hearted anecdote.

Around a year back, a Telenor executive from Norway came to Pakistan and met Imran Khan and Fawad Chaudhry in Telenor HQ in Islamabad.

The first thing Imran Khan said was “you guys are from Germany, right?”

The executive was proper offended.

It is a small example but it sums up the lack of preparation and nonchalant attitude of Imran. He didn’t even bother to take 2 mins and check that Telenor is actually a Norwegian company.

This lack of homework and preparation on his part is why he embarrassed himself and lands himself in trouble every time he opens his mouth.

For a long time, he was calling COVID a “normal flu” simply because he couldn’t be bothered to at least listen to what WHO was saying.

He is delusional narcissist who suffers from high grade messiah complex. He shoots from the hip and doesn’t think before opening his mouth, but his cult-followers are in awe even when he contradicts himself twice in one sentence.

Take a look at his embarrassing offer to extend his COVID relief package to India. What did he expect?

Did he actually think that India would say:

“oh thank you very much. We really need your Mickey Mouse relief package even though our economy is 7 times bigger than yours and the fact that we are much better equipped than you are as far as dealing with this crisis is concerned”.

The Indian reply was savage and embarrassing but Imran brought it on himself only because he doesn’t think before he speaks.

He really is the Trump of the East.

 

[PetroDollars]

Ofcourse he was ill prepared - this is his first gov. job since entering politics and is a big jump, look at Modi, the lame guy had to work through 14 years in the gov. before getting the top job, IK never got a taste for it.

Like i said before his first term was going to be like a school kid having fun in the playground, he will only get to work when he understands the situation which wont be till his second or third term,

 

[MenInG]

Speaking of lack of preparation, let me share a light-hearted anecdote.

Around a year back, a Telenor executive from Norway came to Pakistan and met Imran Khan and Fawad Chaudhry in Telenor HQ in Islamabad.

The first thing Imran Khan said was “you guys are from Germany, right?”

The executive was proper offended.

It is a small example but it sums up the lack of preparation and nonchalant attitude of Imran. He didn’t even bother to take 2 mins and check that Telenor is actually a Norwegian company.

This lack of homework and preparation on his part is why he embarrassed himself and lands himself in trouble every time he opens his mouth.

For a long time, he was calling COVID a “normal flu” simply because he couldn’t be bothered to at least listen to what WHO was saying.

He is delusional narcissist who suffers from high grade messiah complex. He shoots from the hip and doesn’t think before opening his mouth, but his cult-followers are in awe even when he contradicts himself twice in one sentence.

Take a look at his embarrassing offer to extend his COVID relief package to India. What did he expect?

Did he actually think that India would say:

“oh thank you very much. We really need your Mickey Mouse relief package even though our economy is 7 times bigger than yours and the fact that we are much better equipped than you are as far as dealing with this crisis is concerned”.

The Indian reply was savage and embarrassing but Imran brought it on himself only because he doesn’t think before he speaks.

He really is the Trump of the East.

And we are to believe that this light-hearted anecdote actually happened because...?


Let me tell you one light-hearted anecdote that a member of Nawaz cabinet once told me...

one fine morning Nawaz Sharif gathered his cabinet in PM house for a nice hearty Lahori breakfast

one of his ministers said, Sir pehlay economic situation dekhlain?

He replied, yar pehlay khana khalain, economic kal deklaingay - everyone went quiet - breakfast was had, and the ministers left for home after that.

==

I think its safe to say we have moved on.

 

[khanz141]

It shows your venue as USA, what is corruption in South Asia is lobbying in states. The only place where corruption doesn't occur is at lower level in America but the taxes are high enough to make sure that govn job pays well.

East India company was corrupt as well.

Irrespective PTI doesn't seem as bad PML or PPP, only Army seemed better.(to an outsider)

I don't agree. While nowhere is safe from some sort of corruption, lobbying in the US is more of trying to influence laws to be created/written so it benefits someone's specific purpose. While corruption in Pakistan is a minister getting funds allocated for public use and instead he/she taking most of it for his own personal use while spending bare minimum for the public.

What purpose does his competence serve for the general public or the country if he is going to eat up most of those funds himself.

 

[Mamoon]

And we are to believe that this light-hearted anecdote actually happened because...?


Let me tell you one light-hearted anecdote that a member of Nawaz cabinet once told me...

one fine morning Nawaz Sharif gathered his cabinet in PM house for a nice hearty Lahori breakfast

one of his ministers said, Sir pehlay economic situation dekhlain?

He replied, yar pehlay khana khalain, economic kal deklaingay - everyone went quiet - breakfast was had, and the ministers left for home after that.

==

I think its safe to say we have moved on.

The anecdote was narrated by a Telenor executive in Islamabad and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

I have heard the Nawaz story and I believe it too. The man’s bizarre love for food is no secret.

 

[Runner Up]

Imran Khan is not corrupt but he cannot do anything simply because he has no power. Had he had majority in NA and Senate things might have been different.

 

[Bewal Express]

IK needs to better quality of cabinet around him. This is made very difficult by the small majority and the system of govt. He has a corrupt Judiciary that literally stops any change. For example this week the IHC came out and stopped the enquiry on the Sugar mafia, Why? What happened to the Model Town Massacre JIT they stopped.