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"The bowling attack has a lot of potential but you can't buy experience" : Azhar Ali

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Azhar Ali after the first Test loss to Australia:

"When we won the toss, we wanted to score big in the 1st innings. We started off well, on the first day we won 2 sessions. But we lost one very badly, I think if that happens in Tests it's hard to come back, specially if you're playing in Australia against them. That was a missed opportunity"

"When we scored 240 and we came out to bowl, we didn't build enough pressure"

"Almost all of our guys are in good nick, Babar and Rizwan showed the way today and Shan also played well. Partnerships are important so once you get one going, things get easier"

"The wicket was good, in the first innings we missed out on the opportunity"

"It's always tough to leave Abbas out, he's been performing well for us but we've been thinking hard about the bowlers who played in this Test, they were bowling exceptionally well. They played the side game against a strong Australia A side and bowled phenomenally there. Unfortunately, we couldn't deliver"

"For a 16-year-old, the grounds aren't easy and they're heavy. Naseem Shah bowled with consistent pace, I was impressed. His temperament was good, his line and lengths and his short-balls were all good as well"

"We'll look at our combination, Naseem Shah was bowling well and he's very fit but we don't want him to break down because he's young. We want him to have a long career so we managed him accordingly"

Press conference:

"Once you fall behind the game in Australia, it's difficult to make a comeback. When we won the toss and did well in the first session, we had the chance to get ahead of the game but we lost that opportunity. We couldn't put them under pressure with the total we wanted to get"

"We couldn't take wickets with the new ball or control the run-rate"

"On the third day when we bowled, we kept fighting and then we fought with the bat as well so there were still positives"

"We don't win in Australia because we fall behind from the start. When we get an opportunity, we need to make full use of it"

"When we review the game, we'll think about what happened here and try to make sure we can pick the best possible XI for Adelaide"

"Raising so many questions so early on the batsmen isn't good, sometimes they don't have a good match but one bad match doesn't make you a bad player. I have full faith in all the batsmen, that they can make runs here"

"Rizwan is a new addition to the side, he took on the Australian bowlers with confidence. Sometimes, not performing is not because a player isn't capable. When they get a chance, I'm sure they will perform"

"We had a lot of soft dismissals, I feel we missed an opportunity to score a good first innings total"

"In Australia, facing the new ball is always important. They made full use of it specially in the 2nd innings, you have to give credit to the opposition sometimes, they bowled in very good areas. In the first innings, the top order started well but we lost our way in the middle"

"We have full faith in the batting lineup but we will rethink our strategy for the Adelaide Test match"

"The bowling attack is young, they have a lot of potential but you can't buy experience. Specially in a place like Australia, it's never easy. They were a little shaky at the start but came back strongly the next day and bowled in good areas. I have full faith that if they do that from the start of the innings, it'll be a completely different attack"

"The A game was a FC game, this is a Test, the pressure is different. The pitch was different, there we made 400+ and bowled well with the new ball. Here we didn't put up a big total, then we didn't bowl in the areas like we did vs Australia A. The execution wasn't there. We have to do all those things well to create problems for the opposition"
 
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How does a captain whose form is dodgy put his foot down on team selection if the chief selector and the coach are the same person
 
Shocking lies by Azhar.

The last Test was on the world’s most similar wicket to Brisbane - Johannesburg.

Pakistan fielded five bowlers in their twenties.

Azhar and Misbah CHOSE to drop all of them, and field two grandpas with a terrible record in Australia alongside two teenagers whose workload had to be restricted.

Azhar, you’re the Captain. You’re Misbah’s Superior, his Boss.

You let him dismantle an attack of 20-somethings and replace it with has-beens and kids.

You chose to do this.

It’s your fault!
 
Sami Aslam , Usman Sallahuddin , Saud Shakeel these three have to be in Test team as soon as possible.
 
You can't buy experience but you can select experience which misbah failed to do. It's test championship FGS, it's not the time to tests youngster's. Best possible squad should have been selected
 
You can't buy experience but you can select experience which misbah failed to do. It's test championship FGS, it's not the time to tests youngster's. Best possible squad should have been selected

To be fair with Amir and Wahab retirement and Hassan injury options were limited going for Rahat and Sohail for expierence would have got him rosted here.
 
Why didn't we build pressure Azhar? Did it have anything to do with your brainless field placements and rotation of bowlers?
 
Lol what good did experience do for Pakistan in Australia in the last 20 years. Bhumra did not have any experience in Australia yet he won India their first ever series win in Australia. You are either a man or you aren't.

To win a series in Australia you have to be absolutely professional in your preparations. Andrew Strauss's England Ashes win of 2010 and Kohlis India win of 2018 are prime examples.

You can't turn up to Australia with Insha'Allah, Mashallah, with mediocre players, mediocre planning with no thought process on the grounds you will be playing on, players who are a good fit for those grounds and with batsmen who haven't practiced for 6-8 weeks in the nets at home and in Australia.

Kohli on the tour to South Africa refused to play the warm up practice games and instead demanded that the team use that time available to practice ruthlessly in the nets because in his view the home team cheated by playing low quality players in the warm up games and it didn't add any value. Pakistan won their warm up games in 2016-17 and now in 2019 but it still didn't do anything beneficial and we have still lost the first test match. I think the batsmen would have benefited by just using all the time available by practicing ruthlessly non stop in the nets
 
Lol what good did experience do for Pakistan in Australia in the last 20 years. Bhumra did not have any experience in Australia yet he won India their first ever series win in Australia. You are either a man or you aren't.

To win a series in Australia you have to be absolutely professional in your preparations. Andrew Strauss's England Ashes win of 2010 and Kohlis India win of 2018 are prime examples.

You can't turn up to Australia with Insha'Allah, Mashallah, with mediocre players, mediocre planning with no thought process on the grounds you will be playing on, players who are a good fit for those grounds and with batsmen who haven't practiced for 6-8 weeks in the nets at home and in Australia.

Kohli on the tour to South Africa refused to play the warm up practice games and instead demanded that the team use that time available to practice ruthlessly in the nets because in his view the home team cheated by playing low quality players in the warm up games and it didn't add any value. Pakistan won their warm up games in 2016-17 and now in 2019 but it still didn't do anything beneficial and we have still lost the first test match. I think the batsmen would have benefited by just using all the time available by practicing ruthlessly non stop in the nets
Bumrah still carried first class cri ket expierence of 30 plus games he was also 25 and Aus batting line up was worse then what we are up against but yes batting line up has no excuse for their regular dismal show.
 
Azhar, Misbah and Waqar make it sound as if an inexperienced attack was forced upon them. There were alternatives they chose to ignore like Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil who had more FC experience than the likes of Musa.

This is a mess entirely of their own making.
 
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All those PPers who are making so much hue and cry about the selection, really think that this defeat is because of bad selection? Really? Even delusion should have some limits.
 
Worst fast bowler in display was the most experienced one and you benched the most experienced guy
 
All those PPers who are making so much hue and cry about the selection, really think that this defeat is because of bad selection? Really? Even delusion should have some limits.

I don't think so. Maybe the margin of defeat.

You'll be hard-pressed to find many posters here who thought Pakistan have a chance on this tour.
 
Sami Aslam , Usman Sallahuddin , Saud Shakeel these three have to be in Test team as soon as possible.

First time I watched Saud Shakeel live yesterday in the emerging players final match, did not impress me at all.
 
Can someone tell Azhar, your "youngster" Imran Khan was the worst bowler in Brisbane test, the "older and experienced" Naseem and Afridi did fa a better job.
 
It’s a no -win situation in terms of the bowlers selected for the series .

After the retirements and injuries , Imran Khan was recalled, and 3 youngsters were selected. The selections look exciting on paper due to the youth factor and excitement , Shaheen, afridi and musa can potentially bring . If we lose which we did the selections would be roasted for picking youngsters .

On the other hand had Rahat, sohail, Ehsan Adil been selected , the selectors would still be Roasted for picking TTF’s.

I would have picked Abbas in the starting 11. Thats a blunder but I don’t think that would have made much difference given how our batting folded in the first innings .
Here’s hoping the Pink ball test brings more fortune .
 
Azhar Ali will probably get away with the inexperienced squad excuse but he needs to win next series or calls for his head will grow.
 
Azhar played under Misbah for a long time. There's no way Azhar is calling the shots on team selection. It'll be Misbah and Waqar making those decisions.
 
Babar will one day be test captain touring Australia . I hope he's learning and absorbing everything from this tour, including that he should have the final say on the playing 11.
 
Shocking lies by Azhar.

The last Test was on the world’s most similar wicket to Brisbane - Johannesburg.

Pakistan fielded five bowlers in their twenties.

Azhar and Misbah CHOSE to drop all of them, and field two grandpas with a terrible record in Australia alongside two teenagers whose workload had to be restricted.

Azhar, you’re the Captain. You’re Misbah’s Superior, his Boss.

You let him dismantle an attack of 20-somethings and replace it with has-beens and kids.

You chose to do this.

It’s your fault!

Shadab khan and Faheem Ashraf shouldn’t feel too disheartened
They’re both young enough to play test cricket again and they’ve shown up South Africa , they could have done the same against australia
 
Anything Azhar Ali says carries so little weight, we know he isn't running things either on or off the field, and his performances have been so terrible over the last 2 years that I don't think he has the right to give opinion about others.
 
He failed and Asad failed and the his coach selected his team for him - just show some candor and move on.
 
Azhar Ali will probably get away with the inexperienced squad excuse but he needs to win next series or calls for his head will grow.
Mickey and Sarfraz played the previous Test in very similar conditions in Johannesburg.

They left Misbah and Azhar a Five Man Attack which had done great in South Africa, and All Five Bowlers Were Aged In Their Twenties.

One of those bowlers retired, and Azhar and Misbah dumped the other four.

And instead they selected a Four Man Attack with two unfit guys in their thirties with a shocking Southern Hemisphere Test record, supported by two teenagers.

The attack was only “inexperienced” because they chose to dump the guys in their twenties.
 
Azhar, Misbah and Waqar make it sound as if an inexperienced attack was forced upon them. There were alternatives they chose to ignore like Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil who had more FC experience than the likes of Musa.

This is a mess entirely of their own making.

For them anyone not over 35 is a youngster.
 
Azhar, Misbah and Waqar make it sound as if an inexperienced attack was forced upon them. There were alternatives they chose to ignore like Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil who had more FC experience than the likes of Musa.

This is a mess entirely of their own making.
They were also warned about the crucial importance of height for the Brisbane (as opposed to Adelaide) Test.

And they chose to ignore it.

And the attack then proved the point.
 
Well at least the press conferences are eloquent. I mean that and seniority is the only criteria which Azhar was appointed captain.
 
Quotes from Azhar Ali's talk with PCB:

"We all knew how talented Babar was as he had been consistently performing with the white-ball and even in Tests in recent past, he's had good performances and he is improving all the time"

"No one ever doubted Babar's ability but he was brought down the order to give him the chance to perform, now we're thinking about gradually moving him up. But we also need to make sure that we keep him at a number where he can keep performing like he is doing now"

"Rizwan has made an excellent comeback to Test match cricket; This was his second Test and the courage and intent with which he batted is a source of happiness for us and is also an example for the team"
 
Well he has a point but question must be asked of PCB management how we ended up taking such an inexperienced bowling attack to Australia. There is no planning for tours at all just whatever.
 
All I wish is for someone to ask these folks: you have two experienced batsman playing a for a decade, aren’t they underperforming for the last two years?
 
Translates into "You might want to replace failed batsmen with new players. But you can't buy experience".
 
Man... the word "experience" is constantly being run through the mud in Pakistan cricket. Does this term actually even mean "players showing good, consistent performances" match after match within the team?
 
Can't replace experience...meaning: I will play the same failing players again because I can't risk playing youngsters, what if they perform and then my place/my friend's place in the team is in danger after that!
 
Can't replace experience...meaning: I will play the same failing players again because I can't risk playing youngsters, what if they perform and then my place/my friend's place in the team is in danger after that!

Misbah and Azhar like experience in the form of what Jose Mourinho calls "Specialists In Failure".

Ehsan Adil has a lot of experience in South Africa from Under-19 cricket upwards, but he would rather pick Imran Khan who is totally clueless about the right length in Australia.

In Sarfraz Ahmed's final Test, Pakistan played 5 bowlers all aged in their twenties.

One retired, and Misbah and Azhar dropped the rest.

They discarded experience, then picked geriatrics and kids and complained that the attack was unbalanced.
 
Misbah and Azhar like experience in the form of what Jose Mourinho calls "Specialists In Failure".

Ehsan Adil has a lot of experience in South Africa from Under-19 cricket upwards, but he would rather pick Imran Khan who is totally clueless about the right length in Australia.

In Sarfraz Ahmed's final Test, Pakistan played 5 bowlers all aged in their twenties.

One retired, and Misbah and Azhar dropped the rest.

They discarded experience, then picked geriatrics and kids and complained that the attack was unbalanced.




I am aware of all that BUT at some point, you gotta say 'WTH, let me take some chances to end this rutt of playing tried and tested chicken hearted fools and maybe we will achieve something better'

Why is it that everyone in the Pak team is so scared of change/taking chances with new/fresh faces, the worst that can happen is that they fail just like all the rest! This is exactly why I want to bring Kashif Bhatti instead of Yasir (Mr 200 runs record holder, ever) who is a left arm very experienced and skilled bowler besides being a much better batsman than Yasir!

Same way, Abid Ali and Imam for Harris and Iftikhar...since the two in the team seem to have some real issues they need to iron out before scoring anything above the single digits
 
"You can't buy experience..."

Says the most experienced batsman on the team while averaging 25.39 over the past two years.

:inti :ibutt
 
Looks like we cant buy anything at the moment! not even wickets.
 
Azhar is such a poor and defensive captain that our current bowler get no support or guidance, plus defensive fields.
 
Looks like we cant buy anything at the moment! not even wickets.
By the end of the South Africa tour you had an established Outside Asia attack of:

Amir
Abbas
Shaheen
Faheem
Shadab

Now the overs are being filled with filth by Musa, Yasir and Iftikhar.
 
By the end of the South Africa tour you had an established Outside Asia attack of:

Amir
Abbas
Shaheen
Faheem
Shadab

Now the overs are being filled with filth by Musa, Yasir and Iftikhar.

your height theory was on full view today, none of those 140+ km/hr bouncers and short pitched deliveries that Musa kept spamming ever looked like it would trouble Labuschagne or warner and they kept on pulling with abandon. Even hussey mentioned it that he needs to really bend his back to get it upto head height. whether that is because his bowling lacked zip i dont know. I have seen bowlers around his height also do well in Australia.
 
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