The decline in South Africa and Australian cricket proves domestic cricket is not everything

[Savak]

I wonder how the likes of Langer, Hayden, Ponting, Warne, Mcgrath would have felt seeing India beat Australia at home.

How would the likes of Pollock, Donald, Ntini, Steyn, Kallis, Gibbs, Kirsten, Klusenar, Rhodes e.t.c. feel about Sri Lanka beating South Africa at home

Two countries whose quality of domestic cricket were flaunted in front of the entire world and both countries have lost to subcontinent sides at home. How on earth has it come to this that these countries can no longer produce quality international batsmen any more?

Hashim Amla would have been axed a long time ago but he is being persisted and carried on because the cupboard is bare and the new generation of players coming through the ranks are just not good enough and South Africa has conceded that they cannot afford to let Amla go right now. Ricky Ponting's form had dipped very badly from 2008 onwards when he was the main batsman in the side and the others were not good or consistent enough but the Australians had to persist with him knowing full well the cupboard was bare

The South African bowlers have been carrying this South African team for a long long time but eventually when you get bowled out for 128 in a test match, you do not deserve to win.

England's County Cricket was once regarded as the best domestic cricket structure in the world at one point but England remained a crap team internationally for a long while until now.

I guess the talk of having a strong domestic cricket structure is overated and that Domestic Cricket Structure cannot necessarily make up for the talent drought a country has to face eventually.

 

[Savak]

Daryl Cullinan predicted in 2015 when comparison were made of Virat Kohli and ABD. Cullinan totally demolished ABD by saying that Kohli took the game head on by coming in at no 3 while ABD hid down the order and took advantage of an older ball, easier batting conditions. He also highlighted in that interview that the quality of young South African batsmen in domestic cricket, U-19 cricket was just not good enough and he expressed fears for the future when the likes of ABD and other senior players retired. Boy was that interview Nostradamic. I remember a lot of posters commenting that Cullinan was being a drama queen and that there was no way that South Africa's high quality domestic cricket structure will struggle to produce high quality cricketers.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

South Africa has been on a decline for a good while now. They still win series because of their bowlers. But their batting quality has declined massively. Australia still has Warner and Smith so not that bad yet.

Markram, Elgar and De Kock are the only young SAF batsmen who can hold a bat, and none of them are particularly good.

 

[Hasan123]

South Africa have good young players coming through who you will see in the next few months. Don't understand why PP is predicting their decline .

With Australia it's difficult to replace all those ATGs, Smith and Warner being banned doesn't help as well. Australia strong domestic system will mean they will still be a top team.

 

[a_tahir]

Daryl Cullinan predicted in 2015 when comparison were made of Virat Kohli and ABD. Cullinan totally demolished ABD by saying that Kohli took the game head on by coming in at no 3 while ABD hid down the order and took advantage of an older ball, easier batting conditions. He also highlighted in that interview that the quality of young South African batsmen in domestic cricket, U-19 cricket was just not good enough and he expressed fears for the future when the likes of ABD and other senior players retired. Boy was that interview Nostradamic. I remember a lot of posters commenting that Cullinan was being a drama queen and that there was no way that South Africa's high quality domestic cricket structure will struggle to produce high quality cricketers.

So AB de villiers is overrated??