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The issue with IPL, it engenders more problems than solutions for Indian cricket

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Each year IPL bring forths a bunch of talented individuals only to be ignored by BCCI for the ICC events at expense of "senior" players. In IPL 2022, players like Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Varma, Ravi Bishnoi and Shivam Dube were top performers but none among them featured un the T20 WC 2022 in which India got knocked out in a humiliating fashion.

Also this very fact has turned IPL into a money making event instead of a platform where the Indian youth could show case his talent and do get selected. Instead the players of other nations around the world have used the performances of their players in IPL as a template and basis of their selection in the national squad. Phil Salt and Tim David's selection a glaring example of it.

So what's the use of IPL for Indian cricket, if still players would be picked because of favoritism rather than any meritocracy?
 
It makes the BCCI big money which they then also spend on domestic cricket and cricket infrastructure to grow the game in India.

In pure cricketing terms the IPL is nothing. It's a genuinely boring tournament; it's too long and has too much hysteria. It probably benefits overseas cricketers more than Indians.

But from a monetary perspective its a real gem and the BCCI wisely distribute that money across cricket in India.
 
IPL is not really developing All rounders for India. None of the batsmen can bowl and none of the bowlers can bat. All the real all rounders are imported.
With the super sub rule, the chance of some Indian becoming a genuine all rounder is totally destroyed. A batsman can bat and sit out for the rest of the game only to be replaced by a bowler from the bench
 
Each year IPL bring forths a bunch of talented individuals only to be ignored by BCCI for the ICC events at expense of "senior" players. In IPL 2022, players like Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Varma, Ravi Bishnoi and Shivam Dube were top performers but none among them featured un the T20 WC 2022 in which India got knocked out in a humiliating fashion.

Also this very fact has turned IPL into a money making event instead of a platform where the Indian youth could show case his talent and do get selected. Instead the players of other nations around the world have used the performances of their players in IPL as a template and basis of their selection in the national squad. Phil Salt and Tim David's selection a glaring example of it.

So what's the use of IPL for Indian cricket, if still players would be picked because of favoritism rather than any meritocracy?
Indian selectors simply do not trust youngsters. Indian teams of the past always featured oldies with a couple of youngsters sprinkled. The bulk of the team always consisted of 30+ players.

Having oldies will definitely help in tight games, but the oldies simply cannot match the attacking game that the young lions bring. My guess is that the T20 WC will again feature the same loser old characters. I would be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
 
IPL is just like WWE, which is for the purpose of entertainment with huge totals, and there is no focus on cricket and talent development.
 
Indian selectors simply do not trust youngsters. Indian teams of the past always featured oldies with a couple of youngsters sprinkled. The bulk of the team always consisted of 30+ players.

Having oldies will definitely help in tight games, but the oldies simply cannot match the attacking game that the young lions bring. My guess is that the T20 WC will again feature the same loser old characters. I would be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
India won CT 2013 on the basis of a young team.
 
IPL is just like WWE, which is for the purpose of entertainment with huge totals, and there is no focus on cricket and talent development.
Don’t see WWE using the money to help budding wrestlers in remote corner.

IPL has helped cricket become a career for many in India, unlike PCB BCCI has been able to monetise their product and invest in the stadiums across India.
 
Don’t see WWE using the money to help budding wrestlers in remote corner.

IPL has helped cricket become a career for many in India, unlike PCB BCCI has been able to monetise their product and invest in the stadiums across India.
But has India won any T20 tournament because of it? Actually BCCI just ignores the young talent here.
 
But has India won any T20 tournament because of it? Actually BCCI just ignores the young talent here.
India won the 2013 CT and also 2011 WC after it,not because of it.

Also if BCCI ignores the performance of IPL then how IPL is to blame for Indian cricket team’s performance?
 
India won the 2013 CT and also 2011 WC after it,not because of it.

Also if BCCI ignores the performance of IPL then how IPL is to blame for Indian cricket team’s performance?
Yep not IPL to be blamed but BCCI. But you don't get it my actual question is then what's the use of IPL if it can't help BCCI in the betterment of team and pampering of talent.

It has just turned into a money fest event.
 
IPL has given more benefit to the test team than anything else, allowing players to focus on one league a year and not dilute their core skills to chase league money.
 
Yep not IPL to be blamed but BCCI. But you don't get it my actual question is then what's the use of IPL if it can't help BCCI in the betterment of team and pampering of talent.

It has just turned into a money fest event.
The use of it is financial security, BCCI even pays money to retired players and even umpires.

IPL makes money for so many and I’m ok with that, I do agree Indian team is more hype but IPL-BCCI is not the issue, BCCI-Indian team dynamics is.
 
The biggest irony was when India lost ignominiously in the WC 2022 despite playing the whole tournament in UAE where later the tournament took place.
 
That was in 2021. But India had lost too many ICC tournaments, and it is easy to get confused with the years.
Thanks for the correction bro. The non inclusion of guys like Ravi Bishnoi and Dube are just a big loss of India. Let's see if BCCI repeat the same mistake in T20 WC 2024 squad.
 
Thanks for the correction bro. The non inclusion of guys like Ravi Bishnoi and Dube are just a big loss of India. Let's see if BCCI repeat the same mistake in T20 WC 2024 squad.
They will select a senior T20 team as usual. I don't believe the selectors would look past KL Rahul, Kohli, and Hardik for the T20 WC. Even out of form bowlers like Siraj don't deserve to be in the squad. Axar is a fake allrounder.
 
They will select a senior T20 team as usual. I don't believe the selectors would look past KL Rahul, Kohli, and Hardik for the T20 WC. Even out of form bowlers like Siraj don't deserve to be in the squad. Axar is a fake allrounder.
The biggest tragedy would be selection of VK, the so called orange cap holder for years now.
 
This IPL is not only ruining the international cricket but also indian cricket too. Can one believe that a quality bowler like Kagiso Rabada went for 50 in just 2.3 overs.

Certainly IPL is a big farce
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IPL: The batting blitz turning cricket into baseball​

There's been carnage and plunder in the Indian Premier League (IPL), the world's richest cricket tournament, this year.

At grounds across the country, batters are throwing caution to the winds, unleashing big shots without mercy and turning virtually every match into a six-hitting festival. This is leaving bowlers hapless, confounding experts and fans about where Twenty20 cricket is headed.

Look at some of the numbers highlighting the batting mayhem witnessed so far.

After the 39th match of the season between Chennai Super Kings and Lucknow Super Giants on Tuesday night, a total of 1,191 fours and 686 sixes had been struck.

Source: BBC
 
This IPL is not only ruining the international cricket but also indian cricket too. Can one believe that a quality bowler like Kagiso Rabada went for 50 in just 2.3 overs.

Certainly IPL is a big farce
Pakistan should than their lucky stars that Naseem and Rauf are not allowed to play here .

Would have given 70-80 runs in 2.3 overs
 
Also not even a single player from India's WC squad featured in IPL 2024. So what's the purpose of IPL if it does not have any role in players selection for mega events.
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Also not even a single player from India's WC squad featured in IPL 2024. So what's the purpose of IPL if it does not have any role in players selection for mega events.
I don't think it is IPL's job to find any player for the BCCI. It's main and only role is to entertain fans, give a broad coverage for it's sponsors and maximize returns for the owners and investors.

BCCI's domestic structure is responsible for this.
 
Will IPL 2025 Have More Matches In A Season? BCCI Secretary Jay Shah Provides Update

The BCCI is expected to keep the IPL 2025 format at 74 matches, despite earlier plans for an expansion to 84 matches as per secretary Jay Shah.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is likely to maintain the 74-matches format for the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2025 as well despite initial plans to expand to 84 matches. The BCCI secretary Jay Shah mentioned that while the expansion is included in the BCCI's media rights and sponsorship agreements, the board is also considering players' workload and that the final decisions on the matter are still pending.

The Economic Times reported that the BCCI's media rights and sponsorship contracts initially outlined plans for the IPL to expand to an 84-match format for the 2025 and 2026 seasons, with a further increase to 94 matches in 2027.

Jay Shah told ET that increasing the number of IPL matches is the board's prerogative, not an obligation. He noted that while the contract includes a plan for 84 matches in IPL 2025, the BCCI is considering the impact on players before making a final decision on whether to organise 74 or 84 matches.

"We have not taken a call on organising 84 matches in IPL 2025 since we also have to factor the load on the players due to the increase in matches," Shah told the press on Wednesday, as quoted by the Economic Times. "While it's (84 matches) part of the contract, it's up to the BCCI to decide whether to organise 74 or 84 matches," Shah told ET.

Moreover, according to the sources cited by the ET, TV and digital rights holders Star India and Viacom18 favour maintaining the IPL at 74 matches to avoid viewer fatigue from an expanded format. On the other hand, franchise owners support the proposed 10-match increase, believing it will generate additional revenue.


 
Kirsten coached India for three years, his spell resulting in the 2011 World Cup title; India's first in 28 years. Since then, he has led South Africa and Pakistan in international cricket, as well as earning several franchise-level coaching roles including one with the Gujarat Titans in the IPL. Next month, he will take over as head coach of the Sri Lankan men's team.

Having started his India tenure in 2008, Kirsten saw the start of the IPL at close quarters, and the effect of the franchise boom on the national team's players.

After a dominant Indian win in the 2026 T20 World Cup final, head coach Gautam Gambhir reiterated that his team was focused on "trophies, not milestones". Gambhir has also spoken multiple times about the need to do away with "superstar culture".

"I think it's [superstar culture] changed significantly in India over the last 15-odd years and I think he [Gambhir] is absolutely spot on," Kirsten said on Wisden Cricket's The Scoop on YouTube.

"I think that India was driven largely around that superstardom status of each individual and there was there was a massive commercial entity to that as well.

"But I think IPL has kind of definitely brought on a different dynamic there and I couldn't agree with you more. There are just so many good Indian players around now. I mean, you could literally pick three teams. When I was with the Namibians [as a consultant for the T20 World Cup] we were down at the Center of Excellence in Bangalore and it's the most impressive cricket facility I've ever seen anywhere.

"It's absolutely magnificent, and we played against an India A 'regional' team which had IPL players in it but we maybe got bowled out for 60 and there's just so much depth in the system in India now. So it makes complete sense that, you know, the whole game resting on one, two, three, four individuals is not necessary anymore."

"The game has evolved dramatically since I started [coaching] in 2008," Kirsten added, on the challenge for him on a personal front.

"Coaches need to be up to the task for that. They need to understand how to work with a modern cricketer. We spoke about your superstar Indian players. Well I had a lot of them when I started in 2008. Now you don't only have five of them. You've got 25 of them now.

"So it is a very different landscape and you need to evolve as a coach. I think the access to and the use of data is becoming more and more relevant. The domestic leagues have taught us that that you can find competitive advantage in that space.

"You need to evolve and for me working with different teams, it's more around understanding what that environment requires of you as a coach. I think that's really really important, rather than [saying] 'I'm going to stamp my philosophy and style on a team.'"

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Link: https://www.wisden.com/series/icc-m...ar-culture-significantly-in-the-last-15-years
 
Each year IPL bring forths a bunch of talented individuals only to be ignored by BCCI for the ICC events at expense of "senior" players. In IPL 2022, players like Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Varma, Ravi Bishnoi and Shivam Dube were top performers but none among them featured un the T20 WC 2022 in which India got knocked out in a humiliating fashion.

Also this very fact has turned IPL into a money making event instead of a platform where the Indian youth could show case his talent and do get selected. Instead the players of other nations around the world have used the performances of their players in IPL as a template and basis of their selection in the national squad. Phil Salt and Tim David's selection a glaring example of it.

So what's the use of IPL for Indian cricket, if still players would be picked because of favoritism rather than any meritocracy?
Well, those same set of players won the T20 World Cup in 2026.
 
Took time but combinatiom of IPl and domestics is resulting in good players now..
 
Each year IPL bring forths a bunch of talented individuals only to be ignored by BCCI for the ICC events at expense of "senior" players. In IPL 2022, players like Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Varma, Ravi Bishnoi and Shivam Dube were top performers but none among them featured un the T20 WC 2022 in which India got knocked out in a humiliating fashion.

Also this very fact has turned IPL into a money making event instead of a platform where the Indian youth could show case his talent and do get selected. Instead the players of other nations around the world have used the performances of their players in IPL as a template and basis of their selection in the national squad. Phil Salt and Tim David's selection a glaring example of it.

So what's the use of IPL for Indian cricket, if still players would be picked because of favoritism rather than any meritocracy?
How spectacularly this thread backfired ha baldy bro? :yk3
 
I don't think it is IPL's job to find any player for the BCCI. It's main and only role is to entertain fans, give a broad coverage for it's sponsors and maximize returns for the owners and investors.

BCCI's domestic structure is responsible for this.
Financial security for players and scouts to find x factor players
 
Each year IPL bring forths a bunch of talented individuals only to be ignored by BCCI for the ICC events at expense of "senior" players. In IPL 2022, players like Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Varma, Ravi Bishnoi and Shivam Dube were top performers but none among them featured un the T20 WC 2022 in which India got knocked out in a humiliating fashion.

Also this very fact has turned IPL into a money making event instead of a platform where the Indian youth could show case his talent and do get selected. Instead the players of other nations around the world have used the performances of their players in IPL as a template and basis of their selection in the national squad. Phil Salt and Tim David's selection a glaring example of it.

So what's the use of IPL for Indian cricket, if still players would be picked because of favoritism rather than any meritocracy?
I am surprised at how OP identified all the current key players for Bharat 2 years ago. That's some eye for talent Baldy bhai. 👏
 
India takes a methodological route for any player to get into the side. While IPL gets the limelight, they will be tried and tested before getting a permanent run in the team.

Sooryavanshi would have debuted in Pakistan but India chose to make him run through the existing system.

From Jadeja to Rishab Pant were all IPL products who had to grind in the circuit before they performed well in the internationals. This whole thread is just a dig at IPL without mentioning the depth it created in Indian cricket.

Just the Ranji Trophy had 38 teams and that means ~600 players get ~20K USD / season easily.
 
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