The KPL is already a massive success

[Giannis]

This is a corporate world and entities will come down heavily to protect their interest. You can state that by doing this, BCCI has put up a notice not only those players but all the others who might be considering playing in other leagues which aren't in line with BCCI.

BCCI has no jurisdiction outside India and none of its action points to it trying to. But inside India, it is exercising it's jurisdiction and that's what happened here.

You can say it is unfair but if you want to gain something in life, then you will have to sacrifice something in return. Life simply doesn't work like that.

Corporation don't engage in harassment. Don't need to pin this on the "corporate world", India has no idea what corporate culture, this is purely Indian culture.

 

[Itachi]

That's good but I'm sure most Indins wouldn't like that the only sport they dominate will be reduced to a domestic competition. Like there's no national glory and pride when all you're good something only you participate in. I personally support cricket being an Indian sport and state cricket substitute world cricket, this would exacerbate the rivalry and division between different indian states.

Most Indians wouldn't like that. But one essential component of Desi culture is "jugaad". If you don't get what you want, you make the best out of it with what you have. No point in crying over spilled milk. This is what happens when people survive through tough times.

 

[Itachi]

Corporation don't engage in harassment. Don't need to pin this on the "corporate world", India has no idea what corporate culture, this is purely Indian culture.

I disagree. Corporate world is a ruthless world and snowflakes won't survive there. You can disagree with the approach of BCCI but there is no legal ground under which BCCI can be sued since the player themselves stated that they aren't blackmailed or harassed.

 

[krikit]

You're missing the point. This league likely wouldn't even have registered in the minds of most Pakistanis, let alone an international audience. But because the BCCI has made this league an international news story and given it all this free publicity, the league will now likely draw a significantly higher audience than it would have had BCCI done nothing at all

It won't draw a squeak from the international press without any international players of note. It matters not how many Pakistani watch it. Their position on Kashmir isn't going to change by this league. And hence the league will fail in its political objectives which is what the BCCI is trying to achieve.

 

[krikit]

The fact which many posters are trying to explain is that the retired overseas players even if all of them would have played wouldn’t have given the league as much hype as BCCI and Indian Govt gave to the league. A lot more people now know about the league and are interested in it and league management had to spend zero extra Rs to get the marketing to this level.

That hype is limited to Pakistanis and the usual anti-India types only. Barely anyone outside of Pakistan watches even the PSL. Whatever limited interest the PSL has is only amongst those who are following particular players. It is similar to the IPL at a much smaller scale except that the IPL has started to generate interest and coverage due to the sheer quality of cricket.

Whatever little chance you had of publicizing the other side of the LoC to the world with the KPL is now dead. Finished. Game Over

 

[ahsan17]

It won't draw a squeak from the international press without any international players of note. It matters not how many Pakistani watch it. Their position on Kashmir isn't going to change by this league. And hence the league will fail in its political objectives which is what the BCCI is trying to achieve.

I don't even think about the league was targeting international players of note. So if your hypothesis is true, that the league won't draw attention without international players, and hence it has already failed the political objectives, it seems like the league organizers were not going for the political objectives you claim they were going for since they never targeted international players of note.

 

[ahsan17]

That hype is limited to Pakistanis and the usual anti-India types only. Barely anyone outside of Pakistan watches even the PSL. Whatever limited interest the PSL has is only amongst those who are following particular players. It is similar to the IPL at a much smaller scale except that the IPL has started to generate interest and coverage due to the sheer quality of cricket.

Whatever little chance you had of publicizing the other side of the LoC to the world with the KPL is now dead. Finished. Game Over

I have no idea how you are came to your conclusion but it seems like you seem to have it backwards. Seems to be a common feature with bakhts.

Whatever little chance this league had of publicizing what happened in AJK became significantly higher. I am not even sure if the league organizers were going for the hype it's getting now - whatever they were saying about freedom on the AJK side of Kashmir was just to get publicity likely to get a broadcast deal and to garner interest. What BCCI has done has multiplied that by factor of thousands. The league organizers have lost no tangible value but gained a lot.

 

[Itachi]

I have no idea how you are came to your conclusion but it seems like you seem to have it backwards. Seems to be a common feature with bakhts.

Whatever little chance this league had of publicizing what happened in AJK became significantly higher. I am not even sure if the league organizers were going for the hype it's getting now - whatever they were saying about freedom on the AJK side of Kashmir was just to get publicity likely to get a broadcast deal and to garner interest. What BCCI has done has multiplied that by factor of thousands. The league organizers have lost no tangible value but gained a lot.

It was a win win for both actually. This tournament will barely go for second or third edition (so milk it while you can) and for BCCI, it sent a cautionary message to all players contracted/non contracted about sign ups they do.

The KPL can milk whatever they got in terms of publicity they got while BCCI puts it's authority in place.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Did BCCI really win though? They ended up giving a tournament by the name of Kashmir Premier League more publicity than the organizers could have ever imagined in their wildest dreams. And now people who were never going to even watch it, very well might. And despite being able to stop certain players from participating Gibbs and Dilshan are still participating. While Owais Shah and Matt Prior have neither confirmed nor denied. So even that strategy has been partly successful.

ECB has confirmed to BCCI that none of its players will play in KPL.

So only Gibbs and Dilshan may play.

BCCI has made sure that, for most of the cricketing world any cricket league in PoK will remain untouchable.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It was a for local audience and many of us didn't know it existed. Now we know about it and will tune in and that's due to the pettiness of the BCCI and the fascism of the Ind govt. So it's a bug success

BCCI isnt concermed whether pakistanis will watch or play.

Their aim was to make sure most of the cricketing world outside pakistan stays away. They have succeeded in it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I disagree. Corporate world is a ruthless world and snowflakes won't survive there. You can disagree with the approach of BCCI but there is no legal ground under which BCCI can be sued since the player themselves stated that they aren't blackmailed or harassed.

Sued? Lol.

Last time PCB tried to sue BCCI, they ended up losing 1.6mn USD.

No one can touch BCCI legally in this matter.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I have no idea how you are came to your conclusion but it seems like you seem to have it backwards. Seems to be a common feature with bakhts.

Whatever little chance this league had of publicizing what happened in AJK became significantly higher. I am not even sure if the league organizers were going for the hype it's getting now - whatever they were saying about freedom on the AJK side of Kashmir was just to get publicity likely to get a broadcast deal and to garner interest. What BCCI has done has multiplied that by factor of thousands. The league organizers have lost no tangible value but gained a lot.

Why will BCCI be worried if 10 20 or 20mn Pakistanis watch this league and all Pakistani players play in it.

The aim is to keep most of the cricketing world away.

 

[gani999]

Pretty much. I didn't even know this league was a thing. Now I'll give it a watch.

So you would not have watched it if BCCI had not kicked up a row about it? That only proves how much Pakistanis care for Kashmir.
I'm happy that BCCI is making Pakistanis more aware of their own country, something they wouldn't be caring for otherwise.

Maybe BCCI should kick up a row about the PSL and the Qaid-e-azam trophy as well. It may get even these leagues the much needed boost.

 

[PakLFC]

It is the war in Afghanistan that has stopped teams from touring Pak, not India. The KPL is happening and will be a success. Haters can cry all they want

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

ECB has confirmed to BCCI that none of its players will play in KPL.

So only Gibbs and Dilshan may play.

BCCI has made sure that, for most of the cricketing world any cricket league in PoK will remain untouchable.

It was a local regional league full of ex-players who can't even if be considered actual players to begin with.

The only thing BCCI has been successful at is giving the league unbridled publicity and marketing. And for that even the organizers were extending their thanks to the BCCI yesterday, as they should.

 

[PakLFC]

Yeah good point by the above poster. No publicity is bad publicity as the expression goes. The more the BCCI and Indian media harps on about it the greater the interest fans will have. No India can not stop this league from happening where as Pak would already have known the BCCI would threaten to expel those players from the IPL if they participated in it. India can not stop this tournament from happening where as Pak realises most international Cricketers would not risk being thrown out of the IPL. You can sense the Indian anger and frustration from here, job done

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It won't draw a squeak from the international press without any international players of note. It matters not how many Pakistani watch it. Their position on Kashmir isn't going to change by this league. And hence the league will fail in its political objectives which is what the BCCI is trying to achieve.

I don't think anyone expected it to change anyone's position on Kashmir. If the league was indeed a political ploy the aim would have likely been to get a reaction out of India, which it did. As far as international media is concerned, the story of India's response was widely reported by the Guardian and other international newspapers which again, was not something that the organizers could have ever imagined initially.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It was a local regional league full of ex-players who can't even if be considered actual players to begin with.

The only thing BCCI has been successful at is giving the league unbridled publicity and marketing. And for that even the organizers were extending their thanks to the BCCI yesterday, as they should.

Marketing and publicity among Pakistanis. Even if entire pakistan watches it, it is not a problem.

The aim is to keep most of the cricketing world away.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The message and awareness that if you are in contract/looking for contract with BCCI, then before playing any league, consult with BCCI first.

The league is still going on, international players are still playing and now the league has more publicity than ever before.

If anything, this entire drama showed the limits of BCCI's power and their intellect. Since they went out to suppress the league but ended up giving it even more traction than before.

Also, I don't see that happening. People won't be consulting the BCCI before playing any league. Just this one. And that too if they want to work in India in the future.

 

[Itachi]

The league is still going on, international players are still playing and now the league has more publicity than ever before.

If anything, this entire drama showed the limits of BCCI's power and their intellect. Since they went out to suppress the league but ended up giving it even more traction than before.

Also, I don't see that happening. People won't be consulting the BCCI before playing any league. Just this one. And that too if they want to work in India in the future.

That's OK if you believe it. The aim wasn't to suppress a league rather, preventing the potential assets of IPL and marking their limitation.

Both the parties had different goals and it wasn't a competition. KPL got what it wanted, BCCI got what it wanted. The needs were not exclusive in the first place.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Marketing and publicity among Pakistanis. Even if entire pakistan watches it, it is not a problem.

The aim is to keep most of the cricketing world away.

International media widely reported it. Washington Post, Al Jazeera, ESPNCricinfo and others all wrote articles about it. Had India not made so much commotion about it, they never would have reported about KPL.

Now the league is a bigger success than it could have ever imagined to be. And might even have piqued the interest of some overseas Pakistanis.

 

[PakLFC]

We all know BCCI are the money bags and have the big wallet in Cricket. This said no one is gonna ask them how to run their own Cricket. Now that the KPL has started hopefully it will grow yearly, who knows one day top stars may participate in it as well. For now I am more then happy for Pakistanis to be running the entire show. Much more then money it will have a psychological impact both on sides of the LOC.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

That's OK if you believe it. The aim wasn't to suppress a league rather, preventing the potential assets of IPL and marking their limitation.

Both the parties had different goals and it wasn't a competition. KPL got what it wanted, BCCI got what it wanted. The needs were not exclusive in the first place.

The aim very clearly was to suppress the league which failed miserably since the exact opposite happened. If the aim wasn't suppress it than ICC wouldn't have been approached and all these other things wouldn't have been done. The league would have been ignored, which in hindsight would have been far worse for the organizers of the KPL.

As far as the goal of keeping foreign ex-players out is concerned even that strategy was not fully successful which is why it can't be called a success.

The biggest take-away is how limited the BCCI's intellect is as a board, that they couldn't even see how counterproductive some of their actions were to their own aims.

 

[Itachi]

We all know BCCI are the money bags and have the big wallet in Cricket. This said no one is gonna ask them how to run their own Cricket. Now that the KPL has started hopefully it will grow yearly, who knows one day top stars may participate in it as well. For now I am more then happy for Pakistanis to be running the entire show. Much more then money it will have a psychological impact both on sides of the LOC.

Not all "no one is gonna ask them....".

These no ones are the ones who doesn't get hand out from BCCI. Those who gets, will stay within limitations set by BCCI. And in current scenario, most boards are in this side.

 

[Itachi]

The aim very clearly was to suppress the league which failed miserably since the exact opposite happened. If the aim wasn't suppress it than ICC wouldn't have been approached and all these other things wouldn't have been done. The league would have been ignored, which in hindsight would have been far worse for the organizers of the KPL.

As far as the goal of keeping foreign ex-players out is concerned even that strategy was not fully successful which is why it can't be called a success.

The biggest take-away is how limited the BCCI's intellect is as a board, that they couldn't even see how counterproductive some of their actions were to their own aims.

For any transaction, you can't be expected to be succeeded by 100%. That's not how any transaction goes. Many times, you take a hit so that you can impact bigger later on. If you are planning for bigger, you try to mitigate your damage in current attempts but aiming for future.

Why BCCI went to ICC? That was a bureaucracy fail since everyone knew that KPL won't be under ICC jurisdiction. A fact is a fact.

But the primary goal to send the message has been done. Especially the players who have signed IPL contracts will be twice careful from now on before enrolling in other leagues.

It was a great diplomatic goal in the interest of BCCI and Indian cricket and I think it was clever in those aspect.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The aim very clearly was to suppress the league which failed miserably since the exact opposite happened. If the aim wasn't suppress it than ICC wouldn't have been approached and all these other things wouldn't have been done. The league would have been ignored, which in hindsight would have been far worse for the organizers of the KPL.

As far as the goal of keeping foreign ex-players out is concerned even that strategy was not fully successful which is why it can't be called a success.

The biggest take-away is how limited the BCCI's intellect is as a board, that they couldn't even see how counterproductive some of their actions were to their own aims.

The biggest takeaway is that most boards and players will choose to work with BCCI and India over Pakistan and PCB.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The biggest takeaway is that most boards and players will choose to work with BCCI and India over Pakistan and PCB.

That's hardly a take-away, everyone already knew that. All that the BCCI did was how utterly lacking it is in basic intellect.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Funny thing is most Indians I know are planning to give it a watch haha, not because its a high standard of cricket but just from curiosity.

This wouldn't have happened otherwise. Most Pakistanis wouldn't have watched it either to be honest!

The league organisers should invite those chinese baseball players again for the banter.

 

[Pakpak]

So you would not have watched it if BCCI had not kicked up a row about it? That only proves how much Pakistanis care for Kashmir.
I'm happy that BCCI is making Pakistanis more aware of their own country, something they wouldn't be caring for otherwise.

Maybe BCCI should kick up a row about the PSL and the Qaid-e-azam trophy as well. It may get even these leagues the much needed boost.

I barely even watch PSL.

I dont even know half the league's around the world never mind in Pakistan.

I didn't even know about KPL but thanks to BCCI will definitely give it a watch now just to see if there is any local talent.

Your moronic board has done the job for us for the hype.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

For any transaction, you can't be expected to be succeeded by 100%. That's not how any transaction goes. Many times, you take a hit so that you can impact bigger later on. If you are planning for bigger, you try to mitigate your damage in current attempts but aiming for future.

Why BCCI went to ICC? That was a bureaucracy fail since everyone knew that KPL won't be under ICC jurisdiction. A fact is a fact.

But the primary goal to send the message has been done. Especially the players who have signed IPL contracts will be twice careful from now on before enrolling in other leagues.

It was a great diplomatic goal in the interest of BCCI and Indian cricket and I think it was clever in those aspect.

I think the BCCI overestimated its pull and got a reality check about the limits of its power. For one thing, it never expected that Gibbs would lash out in the way he did, or that Gibbs and Dilshan would not like being blackmailed...Imagine that!

LOL the players who sign IPL contracts were never going to play in a low-grade regional league like this anyway. But now that everyone knows that playing in this league will close employment opportunities in India, the ex-players who were never going to get employment opportunities in the first place know that they can make some money in the KPL.

 

[Bewal Express]

The biggest takeaway is that most boards and players will choose to work with BCCI and India over Pakistan and PCB.

So your great revelation is that most people prefer money. With that sort of intellectual thinking skills, you are wasted on here.

 

[Bewal Express]

BCCI isnt concermed whether pakistanis will watch or play.

Their aim was to make sure most of the cricketing world outside pakistan stays away. They have succeeded in it.

So if players from abroad come, then the humiliation will become even bigger. Gibbs has already told you to get lost

 

[Energy]

Not long to go. Big hearts are here.

People in Kashmir will enjoy some days of watching cricket superstars playing on their land at the Muzaffarabad Cricket Stadium, under the monsoon season, surrounded by the gorgeous Neelam valley, with a cup of fantastic tea.

On the other side of the border, the saltiness will reach heights on how many journalists/ex-players were stopped from going - lol. All of this contributing absolutely nothing into the daily life of an average Indian and their struggles.

 

[PakLFC]

Not all "no one is gonna ask them....".

These no ones are the ones who doesn't get hand out from BCCI. Those who gets, will stay within limitations set by BCCI. And in current scenario, most boards are in this side.

That's okay they can do that however ultimately other sides will arrange their own tours. Aussies are not gonna ask India if they can play England or even Pak for that matter.

 

[Itachi]

I think the BCCI overestimated its pull and got a reality check about the limits of its power. For one thing, it never expected that Gibbs would lash out in the way he did, or that Gibbs and Dilshan would not like being blackmailed...Imagine that!

LOL the players who sign IPL contracts were never going to play in a low-grade regional league like this anyway. But now that everyone knows that playing in this league will close employment opportunities in India, the ex-players who were never going to get employment opportunities in the first place know that they can make some money in the KPL.

That would have been my advice too. Monty should have had played KPL after that comment. Even if he pulls out, he won't be considered for any jobs in India under jurisdiction of BCCI.

And for those who knows that they won't get a job, they should play whatever leagues to the maximum regardless what BCCI says.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's hardly a take-away, everyone already knew that. All that the BCCI did was how utterly lacking it is in basic intellect.

PCB and pakistan needed reminding this fact and they have been reminded in a humilating way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So if players from abroad come, then the humiliation will become even bigger. Gibbs has already told you to get lost

Re read my post. I said most of the cricketing world.

Most of the foreigners have withdrawn and chosen to give precedence to a future chance to work in India over a present contract in pakistan.

Tells you the position of PCB and pakistan in world cricket.

Nothing could be more humiliating than someone walking out of a present contract in hope of getting one from someone else in future.

 

[Local.Dada]

I barely even watch PSL.

I dont even know half the league's around the world never mind in Pakistan.

I didn't even know about KPL but thanks to BCCI will definitely give it a watch now just to see if there is any local talent.

Your moronic board has done the job for us for the hype.

that’s funny. If you are are a cricket fan you will watch cricket regardless. I am sure a lot of Indians watch PSL and Pakistanis watch IPL or international matches involving each other’s teams.

However watching a tournament just to diss someone is hilarious. It’s your time that is being enriched/ wasted either ways at the end of the day lol.

If you think there will be quality cricket that will make it worth your while obviously you will watch it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Re read my post. I said most of the cricketing world.

Most of the foreigners have withdrawn and chosen to give precedence to a future chance to work in India over a present contract in pakistan.

Tells you the position of PCB and pakistan in world cricket.

Nothing could be more humiliating than someone walking out of a present contract in hope of getting one from someone else in future.

You started the drama and blackmailed players, some players have refused to get blackmailed and you have been humiliated with the attention it received. What is more humiliating than that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So your great revelation is that most people prefer money. With that sort of intellectual thinking skills, you are wasted on here.

Fact is that pcb and pakistan forgot their place. They got reminded in a humilating way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You started the drama and blackmailed players, some players have refused to get blackmailed and you have been humiliated with the attention it received. What is more humiliating than that.

Only 2 players have agreed to play in PSL rest all kicked it. And most of them don't even have a contract in India yet they kicked KPL. Tells you how low pcb and pakistan is on their priority list.


Pcb and pakistan started the drama of a league in PoK. They thought they would get traction among international players. But most of them walked out on PCB and pakistan in favour of India. Thats called humiliation, when majority walks out on you in favour of your rival.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

PCB and pakistan needed reminding this fact and they have been reminded in a humilating way.

...only in the delusional warped nationalist alternate reality that you live in is this humiliating for PCB.

 

[Bewal Express]

Fact is that pcb and pakistan forgot their place. They got reminded in a humilating way.

If you were so desperate to stop it why the secret phone calls to boards. I thought you wanted to put us in our place

 

[krikit]

I have no idea how you are came to your conclusion but it seems like you seem to have it backwards. Seems to be a common feature with bakhts.

Whatever little chance this league had of publicizing what happened in AJK became significantly higher. I am not even sure if the league organizers were going for the hype it's getting now - whatever they were saying about freedom on the AJK side of Kashmir was just to get publicity likely to get a broadcast deal and to garner interest. What BCCI has done has multiplied that by factor of thousands. The league organizers have lost no tangible value but gained a lot.

It has got no hype and nobody is going to watch this league now or in the future outside of the Pakistanis who enjoy watching their little club-cricketers in their little 'premier league'. The BCCI has made sure of that. No important player, commentator or even major journalist is going to risk participating in your massively successful league.

Pakistanis should introspect as to how even the F-Grade retired cricketers chose to publicly spit in their face and said tata to the Premier league despite of all the crying and head-banging from everyone in your country, even from your foreign minister; and choose the evil BCCI.

The BCCI has attained its objective and maintained its dignity. No player who decides to go to the KPL will be rewarded with Indian money.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Fact is that pcb and pakistan forgot their place. They got reminded in a humilating way.

I think you are sensible enough to realise that there was no humilation for Pakistan.

Instead Kashmir is all over the news and international media. Articles are being shared over many non cricketing mediums and what was a low tier league has been elevated to headline news.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It has got no hype and nobody is going to watch this league now or in the future outside of the Pakistanis who enjoy watching their little club-cricketers in their little 'premier league'. The BCCI has made sure of that. No important player, commentator or even major journalist is going to risk participating in your massively successful league.

Pakistanis should introspect as to how even the F-Grade retired cricketers chose to publicly spit in their face and said tata to the Premier league despite of all the crying and head-banging from everyone in your country, even from your foreign minister; and choose the evil BCCI.

The BCCI has attained its objective and maintained its dignity. No player who decides to go to the KPL will be rewarded with Indian money.

Have some fresh air bro.

Unfortunately people are susceptible to blackmail from hooligans and goons. Ex players and cricketing boards are no exception.

The BCCI may have achieved its objective but it certainly has not maintained its dignity.

That fact is quite clear to reasonable people on both sides of the border.

 

[Titan24]

Whatever little chance you had of publicizing the other side of the LoC to the world with the KPL is now dead. Finished. Game Over

Are you saying that the chance went away with Panesar? That is some next level theory while still struggling to understand the concept of KPL and the facts I conveyed.

Unfortunately I dont have the ability clear delusions of people who are hell bent on not considering anything which can destroy the castle of delusions formed in their minds.

 

[Bewal Express]

It has got no hype and nobody is going to watch this league now or in the future outside of the Pakistanis who enjoy watching their little club-cricketers in their little 'premier league'. The BCCI has made sure of that. No important player, commentator or even major journalist is going to risk participating in your massively successful league.

Pakistanis should introspect as to how even the F-Grade retired cricketers chose to publicly spit in their face and said tata to the Premier league despite of all the crying and head-banging from everyone in your country, even from your foreign minister; and choose the evil BCCI.

The BCCI has attained its objective and maintained its dignity. No player who decides to go to the KPL will be rewarded with Indian money.

Which was the aim of the league. So what have the BCCI achieved bar the humiliation of being exposed by Gibbs for their secret phone calls

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I think this was never about the league or Kashmir youth in the first place.

Pakistan played its card by announcing a league which they knew would incite BCCI because Indian position on Kashmir is that it is part of India.

BCCI couldnt stop the league because it was part of Pakistan Kashmir so they responded by telling anyone who plays thia can consider his future in IPL and Indian vested events as possibly zero.

Off course, in a Gaussian curve few outliers where people will still play KPL and not go for two birds in a bush will exist.

The league achieved its purpose for both.

There is a Kashmir in Pakistan - check

Kashmir is a disputed territory - check

KPL can attract retirees and people who dont care about Indian money and can still do its job for Pakistan.

It will never attract big names because BCCI will stop it and thats the success for India.

Not sure why people are trying to score points where none even exist.

 

[Abdurmirr]

Politics aside I hope the coverage of the league is up to a high standard.

Muzzafrabad cricket ground is one of the most picturesque in the world and hopefully the rest of the world get to see its true beauty in HD and not in the blurry 90s coverage usually displayed by PTV

 

[Mamoon]

Those whole thing is a joke. Our fans have too much free time on their hands - they will cry over anything related to BCCI/India and will then move on in a few days and nothing will change.

This fiasco will be history in a few days and no one will care.

The other day I saw someone suggest that Pakistani fans should go to the England-India series and show support for KPL.

Well if Pakistanis fans in England have so much free time on their hands that they would spend money on tickets for an England-India series and then spend all day in the stadium cheering for KPL, then perhaps they should do it because they won’t utilize their time any better anyway.

On a more serious note, KPL is nothing but a political tool. You have to be naive beyond measure to think that it has anything to do with promoting cricket in “Azad” Kashmir.

This is just another sad - and flop - attempt by Pakistan to draw attention towards Kashmir.

Today, August 5, marks the second anniversary of India removing J&K special status. Over the last 2 years, Pakistan has failed with flying colors to do something about it. Whenever we, especially our PM, has raised his voice on Kashmir, he has been snubbed.

Now we are taking the sporting route so that the world takes not of Kashmir and decides to stand up to India. Our delusions never end.

Nothing is going to happen - people will talk about this for a few weeks and then move on from their lives with BCCI having its way in the end.

Absolutely nothing will change and this thread and the other one will soon be on the 4th and 5th page on this forum and all those vocal critics of BCCI and supporters of KPL will not even bother to talk about it because they will have something new to cry about.

Nonetheless, perhaps it would have been better for BCCI go ignore it altogether instead of giving nobodies like Panesar and former but now irrelevant greats like Gibbs their two minutes of fame.

You can judge the standard and potential of a league where Gibbs is playing as a cricketer in 2021. He is almost 50 now and retired over a decade ago. You may as well ask Miandad and Wasim Akram to play in KPL.

This is exactly what KPL wanted - a political controversy. The fact that their official social media handle is always retweeting political statements shows that they were itching for something like this to happen so that they could gain some relevance.

BCCI played into their hands to some extent, but nonetheless, BCCI will have its way in the end and there is nothing anyone can do about it instead of moaning on social media.

 

[Afzal_K]

Are bahi, Kidhar TV mein hain ye KPL? ke Immy Khan ka palitical stunt

 

[Bewal Express]

Those whole thing is a joke. Our fans have too much free time on their hands - they will cry over anything related to BCCI/India and will then move on in a few days and nothing will change.

This fiasco will be history in a few days and no one will care.

The other day I saw someone suggest that Pakistani fans should go to the England-India series and show support for KPL.

Well if Pakistanis fans in England have so much free time on their hands that they would spend money on tickets for an England-India series and then spend all day in the stadium cheering for KPL, then perhaps they should do it because they won’t utilize their time any better anyway.

On a more serious note, KPL is nothing but a political tool. You have to be naive beyond measure to think that it has anything to do with promoting cricket in “Azad” Kashmir.

This is just another sad - and flop - attempt by Pakistan to draw attention towards Kashmir.

Today, August 5, marks the second anniversary of India removing J&K special status. Over the last 2 years, Pakistan has failed with flying colors to do something about it. Whenever we, especially our PM, has raised his voice on Kashmir, he has been snubbed.

Now we are taking the sporting route so that the world takes not of Kashmir and decides to stand up to India. Our delusions never end.

Nothing is going to happen - people will talk about this for a few weeks and then move on from their lives with BCCI having its way in the end.

Absolutely nothing will change and this thread and the other one will soon be on the 4th and 5th page on this forum and all those vocal critics of BCCI and supporters of KPL will not even bother to talk about it because they will have something new to cry about.

Nonetheless, perhaps it would have been better for BCCI go ignore it altogether instead of giving nobodies like Panesar and former but now irrelevant greats like Gibbs their two minutes of fame.

You can judge the standard and potential of a league where Gibbs is playing as a cricketer in 2021. He is almost 50 now and retired over a decade ago. You may as well ask Miandad and Wasim Akram to play in KPL.

This is exactly what KPL wanted - a political controversy. The fact that their official social media handle is always retweeting political statements shows that they were itching for something like this to happen so that they could gain some relevance.

BCCI played into their hands to some extent, but nonetheless, BCCI will have its way in the end and there is nothing anyone can do about it instead of moaning on social media.

Just imagine if the Gibbs hadn't spoken the truth, you as always said PK and their conspiracy theories. And as it is the BCCI didn't have the balls to do it openly and the Hindutuva on here got played. Then pathetically, like you have, they tried to justify blackmailing players.

 

[MenInG]

Are bahi, Kidhar TV mein hain ye KPL? ke Immy Khan ka palitical stunt

Go and google it and you will find that each match will be broadcast by a private channel.

 

[MenInG]

CEO Kashmir Premier League pleased by the record viewership of KPL

"Kashmir Premier League has broken all cricket records of the history of Pakistan"

Muzaffarabad: The success of KPL 2021 pleases Chief Executive of Kashmir Premier League, Chaudhary Shehzad Akhtar, who in a recent interview said that the success and achievements of KPL pleased everyone in Kashmir and Pakistan and it will be an opportunity for Kashmiris to showcase their talent to emerge at the bigger level.

"Kashmir Premier League has become a success story in its very first edition as it has broken all the previous cricket records of the history of Pakistan. The viewership record it has set is a historical milestone. We are hearing from the other side of the Line of Control (LoC) that the floodlights of KPL 2021 bother us." (Refering to the behavior of BCCI after the inaugural edition of KPL was announced to be held in Muzaffarabad)

He further said, "People are really excited about KPL and we are receiving positive feedback and appreciation from the whole world. We are witnessing some really close encounters in the tournament and I am sure it will be the most successful cricket league in the world when we witness the final stage of this tournament.

We will launch a cricket academy for Kashmiri youngsters so that they get proper training of the sport. It will enable them to represent their city teams with proper training and reinforcement. We want KPL to bring people closer to each other as well as it is an opportunity for Kashmiri youngsters to showcase their talent at the bigger level."

 

[offstump]

Those whole thing is a joke. Our fans have too much free time on their hands - they will cry over anything related to BCCI/India and will then move on in a few days and nothing will change.

This fiasco will be history in a few days and no one will care.

The other day I saw someone suggest that Pakistani fans should go to the England-India series and show support for KPL.

Well if Pakistanis fans in England have so much free time on their hands that they would spend money on tickets for an England-India series and then spend all day in the stadium cheering for KPL, then perhaps they should do it because they won’t utilize their time any better anyway.

On a more serious note, KPL is nothing but a political tool. You have to be naive beyond measure to think that it has anything to do with promoting cricket in “Azad” Kashmir.

This is just another sad - and flop - attempt by Pakistan to draw attention towards Kashmir.

Today, August 5, marks the second anniversary of India removing J&K special status. Over the last 2 years, Pakistan has failed with flying colors to do something about it. Whenever we, especially our PM, has raised his voice on Kashmir, he has been snubbed.

Now we are taking the sporting route so that the world takes not of Kashmir and decides to stand up to India. Our delusions never end.

Nothing is going to happen - people will talk about this for a few weeks and then move on from their lives with BCCI having its way in the end.

Absolutely nothing will change and this thread and the other one will soon be on the 4th and 5th page on this forum and all those vocal critics of BCCI and supporters of KPL will not even bother to talk about it because they will have something new to cry about.

Nonetheless, perhaps it would have been better for BCCI go ignore it altogether instead of giving nobodies like Panesar and former but now irrelevant greats like Gibbs their two minutes of fame.

You can judge the standard and potential of a league where Gibbs is playing as a cricketer in 2021. He is almost 50 now and retired over a decade ago. You may as well ask Miandad and Wasim Akram to play in KPL.

This is exactly what KPL wanted - a political controversy. The fact that their official social media handle is always retweeting political statements shows that they were itching for something like this to happen so that they could gain some relevance.

BCCI played into their hands to some extent, but nonetheless, BCCI will have its way in the end and there is nothing anyone can do about it instead of moaning on social media.

Ironically you seem to have endless amounts of time bashing your own country over and over again which doesn’t change anything either .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Politics aside I hope the coverage of the league is up to a high standard.

Muzzafrabad cricket ground is one of the most picturesque in the world and hopefully the rest of the world get to see its true beauty in HD and not in the blurry 90s coverage usually displayed by PTV

They seem to have spent money on a decent commentary team from outside of Pakistan, but the tv coverage is still low definition. Looks like a decent local based competition rather than international, but still good practice for world cup hopefuls.

 

[MenInG]

They seem to have spent money on a decent commentary team from outside of Pakistan, but the tv coverage is still low definition. Looks like a decent local based competition rather than international, but still good practice for world cup hopefuls.

TV coverage could be better but this is the first edition so I will allow some room for improvement.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

TV coverage could be better but this is the first edition so I will allow some room for improvement.

It's only the old technology cameras which are a let down, the actual commentary and cricket itself seems pretty decent in my opinion.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

The standard of cricket is better than I had expected.

The biggest takeaway is how people are blinded by their hatred for Pakistan that they would call bullying a success and would flaunt it even if that means keep on commenting on the very same league bragging about how powerful BCCI is.

 

[offstump]

The KPL is a success by any measure considering it was supposed to be a low grade local league featuring retired players and the current lot of local talent. It’s now gotten enough coverage in its first year that it will probably slowly grow and expand year over year. The Kashmir name will be prominently featured despite all the crying and whining by the BCCI, if the league can remain intact I’m sure more foreigners will feature. Maybe not the bigger names who are held hostage by the GOI, but other players from other countries will most likely play. Having a few non desi players on each team will infuriate the BCCI further and just give this league more legitimacy.

 

[MenInG]

The KPL is a success by any measure considering it was supposed to be a low grade local league featuring retired players and the current lot of local talent. It’s now gotten enough coverage in its first year that it will probably slowly grow and expand year over year. The Kashmir name will be prominently featured despite all the crying and whining by the BCCI, if the league can remain intact I’m sure more foreigners will feature. Maybe not the bigger names who are held hostage by the GOI, but other players from other countries will most likely play. Having a few non desi players on each team will infuriate the BCCI further and just give this league more legitimacy.

We have lots of these leagues in Pakistan - never thought it would get so much importance.

 

[mastimasti]

It's quite pathetic how our government has reacted to the KPL.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I think in the future they should consider roping the sponsors into a deal in which they can bring people from different cities to Muzaffarabad for this tournament...even if its for a few days or weeks. The stadium and the league would feel more grand if the stadiums were filled. And there are many ways to bring people there i.e. giveaways, corporate retreats and low-cost travel packages that include match tickets; all of which would fill up the stadiums and be a positive for the local tourism economy of Muzaffarabad.

 

[MenInG]

The SRG Kashmir Premier League has received nationwide acclaim for since its launch both locally and internationally. With over 5.6 Million live views generated within the first day, it has successfully become Pakistan’s most viewed live sports event launch on Digital.

Within the first 5 matches, despite one rain shower, the league successfully bagged 15 million views in three days, with RawalKot Hawks (spearheaded by Shahid Afridi) and MirPur Royals (headed by Shoaib Malik) taking the spotlight as the most watched opening match for any tournament on digital media in PK.

Zohaib Hisam, (CDO Blitz Group, broadcast partners KPL) commented, “This is really an unexpected turn of events - the general air among the media/advertising nexus regarding the event was mixed, but it is really refreshing to see that the nation is behind this league, all guns blazing. Though MNC’s have shown skepticism regarding participation in the tournament at first, heads are turning. We would want to thank local homegrown Pakistani brands for showing unconditional support to the cause, specially our Digital partners Golden Pearl Cosmetics, Bank AlHabib, Fatima Fertilizer Group, Hamdard Pakistan, Tapmad TV, our sponsors and technology/broadcast partners Jazz TV, Jazz Cricket, Goonj, Crickwick (Khaleef Technologies), Socioon and the KPL Digital team as well.”

The tournament is currently being held at the iconic Muzaffarabad Cricket Ground (MCG), with Live TV broadcast on Geo Super (local + US/UK) and PTV Sports

With SR Group taking nomenclature rights, participation on on-ground has also been refreshing, along with over 12+ brands (key partners including Servis Tyres, United Industries (Kashmir group), Super Asia and PSO) and an energizing crowd attendance, cricket has definitely arrived in Kashmir.

Muhammed Ejaz, Business Head Servis Tyres stated, “Servis Tyres is proud to sponsor the first ever season of Kashmir Premier League. Servis Tyres believes in supporting and promoting the game of cricket - a passion of most Pakistani people - with the hope of nurturing new talent. Servis Tyres has always supported Pakistan Cricket at various levels and believes sports to be an essential pillar of the community. Good luck to all the players and we hope to see competitive cricket in the league.”

Mian Shahzad Khalid Director Marcomms. United Industries remarked, “Of all the cricketing events, I am most excited for the upcoming Kashmir Premier League. The mix of adrenaline and sportsmanship against the beautiful backdrop of Kashmir’s Muzaffarabad will make this an event to remember. More importantly, this event will project Kashmir’s image as a soft and peace loving place. Kashmir Banaspati and Oil is incredibly happy and grateful to be a sponsor for this event.”

“Allah has blessed our nation with a gift near our national independence day, in the form of the KPL. We are one of the very few nations of the world that came into being without violence, through legislation. Our tournament in AJK with local and international participants is testament to our commitment for peace and stability within the region. Let us hope that this can serve as an example for future generations, we look forward to all nations participating in this message of peace.” - CEO KPL Ch. Shahzad Akhtar.

“This is a message of peace from Pakistan for all nations. We would like to thank our fans, sponsors and brands for making the Kashmir Premiere league a smashing success, despite the hurdles faced. We look forward to making this league an international icon over the years to come. I would want to congratulate my team (KPL), the players, the franchise owners, our partners Blitz (Broadcast), Transmedia Group (On-ground), production partners TPT, SRG, and all our sponsors, and most importantly, our viewers and fans, for making this dream a reality. Pakistan Zindabad, Kashmir Paindabad.” - President Arif Malik - KPL.

The tournament is expected to catch fire with independence day celebrations approaching, as crowds glue to their screens to watch their favorite rivalries in the stadium, with the jubilant crowd of Azad Jammu n Kashmir cheering them on. It is a much needed breath of fresh air for the region, and a sparkling example of how sports diplomacy can be used for world peace.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/09-...reaks-all-viewership-records-on-digital-media

 

[Bewal Express]

Its a good chance to use this league to find and test young talent- it could become a feeder league into the PSL

 

[Real_Steel]

Its funny how there is so much urgency to declare it a success. Any tournament, you wait at least till end of it to call it a success. Any league you wait couple of years to see sustainability and declare success. KPL has had a good start by the looks figures quoted on viewership relative to Pak standards .. calling it a success feels like a stretch. Any league will definitely make it better to find talent in the region, but here the objective seems to be to call it a success to irk BCCI and call it a message of peace to patronize other nations (read India)

KPL should be conducted without patronizing other nations and evaluated like other leagues (if someone out there is really serious about it)

 

[MenInG]

The only reason KPL is being discussed so much is because of BCCI's one-eyed policy of trying to set some kind of example with KPL.

That is what has failed and made them look like buffoons.

That is the only real success of this league.

 

[Bewal Express]

The only reason KPL is being discussed so much is because of BCCI's one-eyed policy of trying to set some kind of example with KPL.

That is what has failed and made them look like buffoons.

That is the only real success of this league.

Its as if someone in the KPL has paid someone in the BCCI to become their publicist.

 

[Mamoon]

Its funny how there is so much urgency to declare it a success. Any tournament, you wait at least till end of it to call it a success. Any league you wait couple of years to see sustainability and declare success. KPL has had a good start by the looks figures quoted on viewership relative to Pak standards .. calling it a success feels like a stretch. Any league will definitely make it better to find talent in the region, but here the objective seems to be to call it a success to irk BCCI and call it a message of peace to patronize other nations (read India)

KPL should be conducted without patronizing other nations and evaluated like other leagues (if someone out there is really serious about it)

We need to understand that sustainability, viewership, quality of cricket, development of cricket and players in the Kashmir region etc. are not part of the KPL agenda.

This league is simply an extension of the Kashmir politics. They were itching for a controversy and for India to object so that this nothing league gains prominence, and BCCI did play into their hands.

KPL got exactly what it wanted, which is it has been a success. The fact that the official KPL Twitter handle was retweeting political stuff exposes their agenda.

They had an agenda and it has been served. Everything else is secondary.

 

[Salman]

Only 2 players have agreed to play in PSL rest all kicked it. And most of them don't even have a contract in India yet they kicked KPL. Tells you how low pcb and pakistan is on their priority list.


Pcb and pakistan started the drama of a league in PoK. They thought they would get traction among international players. But most of them walked out on PCB and pakistan in favour of India. Thats called humiliation, when majority walks out on you in favour of your rival.

I can picture the conversation where some BBCI official is throwing his toys out of the pram like a little spoilt kid upset and threatening to not come to the party if "monty" goes to Kashmir... hahaha petty little men.

Come on, no one was really expecting to have foreign cricketers playing in the 1st edition of a domestic league like this anywhere, just the fact that it gone ahead as scheduled is enough of a success and credit to the organisers

 

[MenInG]

We need to understand that sustainability, viewership, quality of cricket, development of cricket and players in the Kashmir region etc. are not part of the KPL agenda.

This league is simply an extension of the Kashmir politics. They were itching for a controversy and for India to object so that this nothing league gains prominence, and BCCI did play into their hands.

KPL got exactly what it wanted, which is it has been a success. The fact that the official KPL Twitter handle was retweeting political stuff exposes their agenda.

They had an agenda and it has been served. Everything else is secondary.

KPL twitter is only doing that after BCCI created the fuss.

No one really thought much of this league before that.

 

[Mamoon]

KPL twitter is only doing that after BCCI created the fuss.

No one really thought much of this league before that.

KPL has nothing to do with BCCI. It a cricket tournament and should focus on cricket. If BCCI is making political statements, then let PCB handle it because PCB is BCCI’s equivalent. KPL isn’t.

However, as I said, cricket is just an afterthought for KPL. It is not a problem but people should be willing to acknowledge the reality.

 

[MenInG]

KPL has nothing to do with BCCI. It a cricket tournament and should focus on cricket. If BCCI is making political statements, then let PCB handle it because PCB is BCCI’s equivalent. KPL isn’t.

However, as I said, cricket is just an afterthought for KPL. It is not a problem but people should be willing to acknowledge the reality.

No if an entity is threatening another entity (commercial) then KPL has every right to react.

KPL was a business venture. The sports arm of the BJP Govt has made it into something else.

 

[Bewal Express]

KPL has nothing to do with BCCI. It a cricket tournament and should focus on cricket. If BCCI is making political statements, then let PCB handle it because PCB is BCCI’s equivalent. KPL isn’t.

However, as I said, cricket is just an afterthought for KPL. It is not a problem but people should be willing to acknowledge the reality.

It didnt initially but now that the BCCI have made this an issue, We should use it to rub theirs and your nose in it. Next year it should go even bigger and use every statement of the BCCI to get more PR. Good job KPL

 

[Abdurmirr]

It's very disappointing to see the lack of opportunities being given to Kashmiri cricketers throughout this tournament.

I think last game one of the emerging bowlers was only given three overs instead of his full quota of 4. Seen this happen basically every game with most Kashmiri bowlers being only given 1 to 2 overs and a large of Kashmiri batsmen being played lower down in the order to make room for Pakistani TTFS.

Also it's seems like a bit redundant to name a league "the Kashmir Premier League" and only have two spots open for actual Kashmiri talent per team. Even foreign players get higher quotas in franchise cricket.

Could have just named it the Pakistan Premier league

 

[street cricketer]

KPL twitter is only doing that after BCCI created the fuss.

No one really thought much of this league before that.

BCCI only created the fuss because KPL made it political before that.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Not to be a spoil sport or anything but I see a lot of either current Pakistani cricketers or PSL domestic players being part of this, where are the local lads? Surely that must be the prerogative since I guess this is ultimately a regional competition

 

[MenInG]

Not to be a spoil sport or anything but I see a lot of either current Pakistani cricketers or PSL domestic players being part of this, where are the local lads? Surely that must be the prerogative since I guess this is ultimately a regional competition

That's a good observation but I guess they have to balance the commercial aspects (as in people watching if Pakistan names there) vs new talent.

I refer you to our interview with the Director:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...p-become-superstars-as-well-quot-Taimoor-Khan

PakPassion.net: So, how will these Kashimiri origin players take part in the KPL?

Taimoor Khan: The final phase of the trials was supposed to take place between 2nd and 3rd of March but have been postponed to 27th March and will now take place in Muzaffarabad. The idea of these trials is that out of the 170 players identified from the first phase of the trials, we will select 75 players who will become part of the draft which is tentatively set for 2nd April. So, the way the Kashmiri players will be able to showcase their talent and play alongside Pakistani international players will be that each team will pick 15 players in the draft, out of which 5 will need to be of Kashmiri origin. Now we do realize that a lot of Kashmiri origin families have migrated to different parts of the world and especially in the UK. In order to accommodate the interest amongst the Kashmiri origin players in UK, we organized trials there which included cricketers who are playing in the 2nd XIs within the county setup which gives you an idea of the quality of players who will be part of the draft for KPL. And to make sure that overseas Kashmiris get a fair crack during the draft, we have stipulated that a minimum of 1 and a maximum of 2 such players are part of the 5 Kashmiri origin players in each side. When the league does start, each side will have to field 2 Kashmiri origin players in every game.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Realistically this is a Tier 4 cricket league and our players probably shouldn't be playing in it. It is the worst form of pyjama cricket.

It would have been forgotten about much like the other domestic leagues that spring up occasionally.

Infact had the foreign international players played the matches then the league would have been a big laughing stock and everybody would be criticising Pakistani international for playing with retirees.

However, due to the BCCI's foolishness they elevated the status of the league so much so that it is enjoyed by almost everyone in the subcontinent, particularly among Kashmiris with roots in the Indian occupied areas.