The Makkah Selfie....

[MenInG]

I find such pics odd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Allhamdulilah performed Umrah feeling blessed..&#55357;&#56911;&#55357;&#56911;&#55357;&#56845;&#55357;&#56845; <a href="https://t.co/4PGrRdzC40">pic.twitter.com/4PGrRdzC40</a></p>— Mohammad Amir (@iamamirofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamamirofficial/status/962496765776756736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Having said that, Mubarak to Amir and Mrs. for this Umrah

 

[IAJ]

Ma sha Allah. I was there for Umrah myself a week or so ago. What a lovely blessed place.

 

[Rayyman]

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] it only takes like 30 seconds to take pic and put on Twitter.

 

[www787]

Ma sha Allah. I was there for Umrah myself a week or so ago. What a lovely blessed place.

Ma Sha' Allah, May Allah accept your Umrah.

 

[DeadBall]

I remember the time when I used to be thoroughly searched every time before when camera phones were not common and a phone with camera was confiscated and returned when you left. How times have changed. Now everyone can instantly show how much holier they are than everybody else.

 

[MenInG]

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] it only takes like 30 seconds to take pic and put on Twitter.

I dont like the idea of a pic of Allah SWT's house as the background. This isnt the same as standing in front of the Eiffel tower

 

[Syed1]

I hope he prayed for more wickets

 

[Pakistanian]

No big deal

 

[Varun]

I hope he prayed for more wickets

Gold!

That, and dropped chances being actually taken.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

I dont like the idea of a pic of Allah SWT's house as the background. This isnt the same as standing in front of the Eiffel tower

As with anything, it's all about intention. If one's doing it to show off, then it's not good, but if one has pure intentions, what's wrong with it?

For example, my cousin went to Umrah 2 Ramadhans ago and just watching his snapchat stories and pictures, made me want to wish to be there and I myself then made the intention and went this past year.

The same logic can be applied to nearly every situation.

 

[DeadBall]

I hope he prayed for more wickets

Or maybe more held catches. Now that would really require a miracle.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I dont like the idea of a pic of Allah SWT's house as the background. This isnt the same as standing in front of the Eiffel tower

100% agree.

 

[DeadBall]

I dont like the idea of a pic of Allah SWT's house as the background. This isnt the same as standing in front of the Eiffel tower

It is a monument like any other and the more exposure it gets the better for Islamic tourism. Also it was the house of countless idols before.

 

[R3verse Swing]

It is a monument like any other and the more exposure it gets the better for Islamic tourism. Also it was the house of countless idols before.

A monument like any other? A monument is created to commemorate a person or event.

Islamic tourism? Are you having a laugh? Only Muslims are permitted in Makkah. All Muslims are aware of Makkah, no need for a selfie to remind them.

You lot really make me giggle. Ha and ha!

 

[DeadBall]

A monument like any other? A monument is created to commemorate a person or event.

Islamic tourism? Are you having a laugh? Only Muslims are permitted in Makkah. All Muslims are aware of Makkah, no need for a selfie to remind them.

You lot really make me giggle. Ha and ha!

Yes, Islamic tourism, its not just limited to Muslims, but is in this case, they come to see the big Islamic thing just like how Jews go to the wailing wall or Christians to the Vatican etc. You can giggle how much you want but that doesn't change anything. As for the monument thing, maybe you should read up on the definition once again.

"a building, structure, or site that is of historical importance or interest."

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is a monument like any other and the more exposure it gets the better for Islamic tourism. Also it was the house of countless idols before.

It’s the house of God to Muslims , show some respect.

Photos are taken for memories, so it’s normal to want a memory of your time near the Kaaba .

 

[R3verse Swing]

Yes, Islamic tourism, its not just limited to Muslims, but is in this case, they come to see the big Islamic thing just like how Jews go to the wailing wall or Christians to the Vatican etc. You can giggle how much you want but that doesn't change anything.

Which part of Makkah only permits Muslim did you not understand? How is tourism, not just limited to Muslims going to benefit Makkah?

As for the monument thing, maybe you should read up on the definition once again.

"a building, structure, or site that is of historical importance or interest."

Oxford Dictionary:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/monument

A statue, building, or other structure erected to commemorate a notable person or event.

Fo giggles!

 

[Gabbar Singh]

I don’t think taking such photos are inappropriate, in fact it’s natural so that one can look back on the event and/or share with family and close friends, however sharing them with the world is something I’ll never understand. It’s like the people who take photos of themselves praying and then uploading them to social media. Something very narcissistic about the whole thing.

 

[ManFan]

Hajj has become commercialized. The Hijaz of Old is no more.

 

[yasir]

I hope he prayed for more wickets

Prayers are not going to work, he need to work hard on building strength and stamina, plus show some testosterone, there is no venom in his game, he used to be very different person. I can imagine one can loose fitness but how one can loose his personality??

 

[DeadBall]

Which part of Makkah only permits Muslim did you not understand? How is tourism, not just limited to Muslims going to benefit Makkah?

Which part of "Islamic" tourism do you not understand? Most Muslims I know need to remind others that they were at the Masjid Al 7aram as is the case in OP.


Oxford Dictionary:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/monument

A statue, building, or other structure erected to commemorate a notable person or event.

Fo giggles!

Yes, there are 3 definitions, read the others which do not conform to your ideas before fo giggling.

 

[DeadBall]

It’s the house of God to Muslims , show some respect.

Photos are taken for memories, so it’s normal to want a memory of your time near the Kaaba .

I dont know when you left the UK the last time and went for a Umrah/Hajj but I have been there already for 5 Umrahs and 2 Hajjs, not boasting because I was forced to do it. Memories are supposed to be for yourself, not posted 2 seconds after you finished the Tawaf, I bet he wasn't at the Safa and Marwa yet. I have already posted what I have seen from you religious types before in the 7aram and Masjid al Nabawi, just go try to show your religiosity to someone else.

 

[MenInG]

As with anything, it's all about intention. If one's doing it to show off, then it's not good, but if one has pure intentions, what's wrong with it?

For example, my cousin went to Umrah 2 Ramadhans ago and just watching his snapchat stories and pictures, made me want to wish to be there and I myself then made the intention and went this past year.

The same logic can be applied to nearly every situation.

Putting it on Twitter for over 1m viewers

What other intentions? Surely he doesn't know everyone personally?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I dont know when you left the UK the last time and went for a Umrah/Hajj but I have been there already for 5 Umrahs and 2 Hajjs, not boasting because I was forced to do it. Memories are supposed to be for yourself, not posted 2 seconds after you finished the Tawaf, I bet he wasn't at the Safa and Marwa yet. I have already posted what I have seen from you religious types before in the 7aram and Masjid al Nabawi, just go try to show your religiosity to someone else.

If you've been there 7 times you should show more respect on here. Why were you forced, dont you have a mind of your own? Why not show some courage and tell your family you are an atheist?

There is nothing wrong with showing those you know, you are in Mecca or Medina. Taking photos at the holy sites is not banned and people are free to post what they like.

 

[DeadBall]

If you've been there 7 times you should show more respect on here. Why were you forced, dont you have a mind of your own? Why not show some courage and tell your family you are an atheist?

There is nothing wrong with showing those you know, you are in Mecca or Medina. Taking photos at the holy sites is not banned and people are free to post what they like.

This was during the time between the ages of 8 and 17, when I was not an adult yet and yes I was forced in the beginning but for one one Umrah and Hajj in my mid teens I really went to find spiritual and religious guidance and then stayed there for 6 months with the scholars to study Fiqh as I genuinely believed it all to be true, but with time rationality kicked in.

I have told my family that I am an atheist and have been somewhat disowned due to that. I was also forced to leave the country I was born and bought up in due to certain groups gunning for my blood for the same reason. I now live in a country where I can live freely without fear of repercussions of what I believe in (or don't in my case).

Also I have seen numerous instances of this show of religiosity personally as I have related a couple of cases in other threads and as [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] pointed out, Amir posted it on Twitter where he has a million followers 99% of whom he did not know personally. What was the point apart from him showing how much more religious he is now?

 

[DRsohail]

its more of show rather than praying.i hate such sorts of pics like hafiz posted a month before in NZ>

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Putting it on Twitter for over 1m viewers

What other intentions? Surely he doesn't know everyone personally?

Perhaps we shouldn't be going in and trying to dissect what's in each person's heart? Live and let live.

 

[MenInG]

Perhaps we shouldn't be going in and trying to dissect what's in each person's heart? Live and let live.

I never said there was anything wrong with his heart!

My (original) comment is on the general idea of including a picture of Kaaba as a backdrop.

 

[Major]

I find such pics odd.



Having said that, Mubarak to Amir and Mrs. for this Umrah

yesterday i went to a janaza. And people were taking pictures of the dead body in the coffin.

so, this is nothing in comparison to that

 

[ManFan]

yesterday i went to a janaza. And people were taking pictures of the dead body in the coffin.

so, this is nothing in comparison to that

That's horrible.

 

[Major]

Don't think there is anything wrong in capturing a pic for memory purpose.

I use to google pics of kabaah of what it was like before the 1950s. I always try to find the oldest pic. So pics are good for history.

Plus, it promotes tourism aswell. Provoking people to go there.

THey even did a 360 VR of the inside of Kabah. Was quite interesting.

However, i do feel annoyed when i go somewhere, and everyone starts clicking pics and you're the only one looking at the actual thing.

 

[ManFan]

Don't think there is anything wrong in capturing a pic for memory purpose.

I use to google pics of kabaah of what it was like before the 1950s. I always try to find the oldest pic. So pics are good for history.

Plus, it promotes tourism aswell. Provoking people to go there.

THey even did a 360 VR of the inside of Kabah. Was quite interesting.

However, i do feel annoyed when i go somewhere, and everyone starts clicking pics and you're the only one looking at the actual thing.

It's the same with everything. A concert, restaurant,etc. People nowadays want to look back at the pictures rather than enjoy the occasion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This was during the time between the ages of 8 and 17, when I was not an adult yet and yes I was forced in the beginning but for one one Umrah and Hajj in my mid teens I really went to find spiritual and religious guidance and then stayed there for 6 months with the scholars to study Fiqh as I genuinely believed it all to be true, but with time rationality kicked in.

I have told my family that I am an atheist and have been somewhat disowned due to that. I was also forced to leave the country I was born and bought up in due to certain groups gunning for my blood for the same reason. I now live in a country where I can live freely without fear of repercussions of what I believe in (or don't in my case).

Also I have seen numerous instances of this show of religiosity personally as I have related a couple of cases in other threads and as [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] pointed out, Amir posted it on Twitter where he has a million followers 99% of whom he did not know personally. What was the point apart from him showing how much more religious he is now?

Amir has a lot of fans who like to see what he's up to. His journey to Mecca was obviously very special for him esp with his wife. He wants people to see this not because he thinks he is religiously superiour.

 

[James]

Lots of hysteria over nothing recently. Valentine’s Day, multi-faith prayer room at the Olympics, selfies on the pilgrimage.

RE these particular selfies - they are great and unique moments in people's lives being digitally immortalised for themselves and family to cherish; many people may only travel that far once - so again, what’s the problem?

 

[DeadBall]

Are you one of those fake asylum seekers who gained entry to a western nation making up stories of your life being in danger? Who can blame your family for disowning you.

Amir has a lot of fans who like to see what he's up to. His journey to Mecca was obviously very special for him esp with his wife. He wants people to see this not because he thinks he is religiously superiour.

I am not an asylum seeker. I actually worked hard and made enough of myself that I could reside in any country I wanted. In fact I did stay in a couple of other countries for an year or two before I decided on my current one.

Anyway since I see you're getting personal I won't bother replying to you anymore.