The mysterious case of Sadaf Hussain!

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Give him a chance when we tour England

I have seen Sadaf play as when I did I realized why even Waqar isn't keen on him

 

[New Yorker]

a lot of mediocre bowlers will be in the draft, there are only 5 teams, im pretty confident that all the pacers picked will be better then sadaf taking format and conditions into consideration. The guy has never played a t20 game in his life

yeah, why would the guy with the best LA domestic stats be any good in a short form of the game? as long as you are confident we should be fine.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Give him a chance when we tour England

I have seen Sadaf play as when I did I realized why even Waqar isn't keen on him

Heck we have even play imran khan junior 2. That does not leave waqar with much of a credibility on the pace issue at least. We have tried shinwari out of nowhere.. Waqar even liked a guy called abdul haq in uae though he wasnt given a chance later.. Does not that make you a least bit surprised why he hasnt been tried yet.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Give him a chance when we tour England

I have seen Sadaf play as when I did I realized why even Waqar isn't keen on him

He is not even in PSL and you are asking PCB to select him for England?

 

[asfandyar]

I am sure that many will disagree with me here but is it that he is a shia. Surely it can't be some other reason.

Of course not who cares? Our president was a Shi'a just 2-3 years ago.

As silly as it may sound, I am now beginning to ponder that there might be some merit to this argument. Even Fawad Alam is luckier than him, and the last time Sadaf was selected (during West Indian Tour) was during that same president's regime that Cricket lover 27 is talking about. (I am not a Shia). If this is the reason, then it is absolutely pathetic of PCB management.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/509844.html

 

[Moe]

He's too young to be in the team :dalmiya

 

[asfandyar]

As silly as it may sound, I am now beginning to ponder that there might be some merit to this argument. Even Fawad Alam is luckier than him, and the last time Sadaf was selected (during West Indian Tour) was during that same president's regime that Cricket lover 27 is talking about. (I am not a Shia). If this is the reason, then it is absolutely pathetic of PCB management.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/509844.html

Sadaf was only selected for ODI and T20 squads that Afridi was heading after Cheema was injured.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2011/content/squad/509691.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2011/content/squad/509692.html

 

[Cricket lover 27]

As silly as it may sound, I am now beginning to ponder that there might be some merit to this argument. Even Fawad Alam is luckier than him, and the last time Sadaf was selected (during West Indian Tour) was during that same president's regime that Cricket lover 27 is talking about. (I am not a Shia). If this is the reason, then it is absolutely pathetic of PCB management.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/509844.html

Doesn't matter Saifullah Bangash is also Shia he is there with the A squad.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Heck we have even play imran khan junior 2. That does not leave waqar with much of a credibility on the pace issue at least. We have tried shinwari out of nowhere.. Waqar even liked a guy called abdul haq in uae though he wasnt given a chance later.. Does not that make you a least bit surprised why he hasnt been tried yet.

He is not even in PSL and you are asking PCB to select him for England?

he should have been picked when we went on forgein tours but here's the hard truth.

Sadaf is 125 kph bowler who seams it. It has greatly benefited him that he plays in Rawalpindi most of the time.

to me Pakistani bowlers domestic stats are like Indian batsman domestic stats, they dont really matter much. True Sadaf's stats are great even then, and i agree he should have at least gotten a few games but the simple reason why i dont cry foul over his selection is because im near convinced he would fail on the international scene unless we are playing on a green pitch.

 

[Effy]

Sadaf is a big swinger of the ball. Kokubora or Duke, he swings both

 

[New Yorker]

he should have been picked when we went on forgein tours but here's the hard truth.

Sadaf is 125 kph bowler who seams it. It has greatly benefited him that he plays in Rawalpindi most of the time.

to me Pakistani bowlers domestic stats are like Indian batsman domestic stats, they dont really matter much. True Sadaf's stats are great even then, and i agree he should have at least gotten a few games but the simple reason why i dont cry foul over his selection is because im near convinced he would fail on the international scene unless we are playing on a green pitch.

Do you have proof of this speed assessment? Have you compared his home vs away record? He's been excellent all across the country. And why is it that someone else who is worse domestically would nevertheless be more successful internationally? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If they have more pace, why is this pace not helping them do better domestically?

 

[New Yorker]

Heck we have even play imran khan junior 2. That does not leave waqar with much of a credibility on the pace issue at least. We have tried shinwari out of nowhere.. Waqar even liked a guy called abdul haq in uae though he wasnt given a chance later.. Does not that make you a least bit surprised why he hasnt been tried yet.

Absolutely.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

if he plays in PSL and performs there would definitely get him a spot in the national team...PSL will be his golden chance

 

[world cup captain]

As silly as it may sound, I am now beginning to ponder that there might be some merit to this argument. Even Fawad Alam is luckier than him, and the last time Sadaf was selected (during West Indian Tour) was during that same president's regime that Cricket lover 27 is talking about. (I am not a Shia). If this is the reason, then it is absolutely pathetic of PCB management.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/509844.html

I don't know man. I think this might be the reason but I can't back it up.

 

[Firebreaker]

if he plays in PSL and performs there would definitely get him a spot in the national team...PSL will be his golden chance

He's not even in Draft

 

[Asadullah]

Mystery continues...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He's not even in Draft

Ya jus saw that... Nobody asks about him to Haroon, Waqar, SK, NS...Even PP mods , [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] bhai & company.. I remember he was selected for the tour of WI were a feud b/w Afridi and Waqar broke out, didnt play even one game but was discarded and forgotten

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Mystery continues...

Yep

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Ya jus saw that... Nobody asks about him to Haroon, Waqar, SK, NS...Even PP mods , [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] bhai & company.. I remember he was selected for the tour of WI were a feud b/w Afridi and Waqar broke out, didnt play even one game but was discarded and forgotten

They will say he hasn't played any T20 cricket and he has got no experience of T20 format.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Sadaf took a lot of wickets while playing for rawalpindi,, i agree

But why is he still averaging below 20 every season even changing teams and playing everywhere in pakistan.. Every bowler is bowling on these wickets.. Why does he stand out with 56 wickets in 26 list a games and 266 wickets in 56 fc games with 21 5fers and 5 10 fers.

Even if he not good he has performed enough yo get a call up anyway.. He needs a chance to fail at least.

 

[JibranAnsari]

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION]. Bhai, do you have any idea that why sadaf hussain foesnt even get selected for the national t20 tournaments despite being a top performer in other 2 formats.. Why he is never selected for A tours? Why isnt he deemed good enough even to be in the draft of 130 pakistan players for PSL?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION]. Bhai, do you have any idea that why sadaf hussain foesnt even get selected for the national t20 tournaments despite being a top performer in other 2 formats.. Why he is never selected for A tours? Why isnt he deemed good enough even to be in the draft of 130 pakistan players for PSL?

He has been man of the series in two A tours . [MENTION=139012]b.lesner[/MENTION] can tell you where and when.

 

[Abdullah719]

145 FC wickets in Rawalpindi at 19.
121 FC wickets outside Rawalpindi at 18.

He does play a lot in Rawalpindi, though.

 

[Pete Rose]

I understand this line of thinking infuriates, but if the selectors ignore him constantly (and these are different panels over the last couple of years) then he is not very good.
Give him a chance to play a test match in abu Dhabi so that we can move forward.

 

[Asadullah]

His highest average at any ground is 25 (Karachi), where he has even taken a five-fer.

Speaks volumes about his wicket-taking ability, something none of our international bowlers possess

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Do you have proof of this speed assessment? Have you compared his home vs away record? He's been excellent all across the country. And why is it that someone else who is worse domestically would nevertheless be more successful internationally? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If they have more pace, why is this pace not helping them do better domestically?

Because on under prepared pakistani pitches main ring line and length at 125 kph will pay more dividends then bowling fast but without the same control

 

[New Yorker]

Because on under prepared pakistani pitches main ring line and length at 125 kph will pay more dividends then bowling fast but without the same control

Ok, so you have no evidence that he bowls 125, nor is it in fact clear that Pakistani wickets everywhere are as underprepared as you claim. But let's for a moment presume these contentions/ Since pretty much every bowler in Pakistan should be able to bowl at that speed on the same wickets, why does Sadaf take more wickets than everyone else? Without wanting to say as much, you acknowledge that he must possess some kind of second rate skill known as 'control.' Now we all know how over rated is 'control' But don't you think it is a bit optimistic to expect that just bowling fast without control will get you wickets? ? My impression is that bowlers who can do little more than bowl fast may sometimes do well bullying people in the domestics, but tend to get found out internationally.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Ok, so you have no evidence that he bowls 125, nor is it in fact clear that Pakistani wickets everywhere are as underprepared as you claim. But let's for a moment presume these contentions/ Since pretty much every bowler in Pakistan should be able to bowl at that speed on the same wickets, why does Sadaf take more wickets than everyone else? Without wanting to say as much, you acknowledge that he must possess some kind of second rate skill known as 'control.' Now we all know how over rated is 'control' But don't you think it is a bit optimistic to expect that just bowling fast without control will get you wickets? ? My impression is that bowlers who can do little more than bowl fast may sometimes do well bullying people in the domestics, but tend to get found out internationally.

I have seen Sadaf play, that's when I stopped trumpeting him . Yes you make valid points and I will reiterate that he should be given a go on forgein tours but he doesn't not have the same skill set as asif. People forget that asif had a wobbly seam and could that at 130 kph plus

 

[Slog]

I have seen Sadaf play, that's when I stopped trumpeting him . Yes you make valid points and I will reiterate that he should be given a go on forgein tours but he doesn't not have the same skill set as asif. People forget that asif had a wobbly seam and could that at 130 kph plus

I used to say the same. However the simple fact is regardless of whether he is actually good enough or not he has done more than enough to get his chance

 

[Finisher]

Didn't sadaf say he bowls between 133-138.

 

[dashing_man]

looks like Zaheer Khan. Though he should get a A team call

 

[AlphaFighter]

On absolute merit this guy deserves to play a few series for Pakistan.

Sent from my SM-G925W8 using Tapatalk

 

[Abdullah719]

Didn't sadaf say he bowls between 133-138.

Whoa... sounds like .

 

[Slog]

This really is a mind boggling mystery

Some really elaborate joke on the poor guy

 

[Slog]

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] can you please take up his case. Im sure majority fans will be imploring you

Ofcourse you cant do anything to have an influence on selection but atleast you can publicize his case. You have a sizable audience of Pakistani and international cricket fans and your voice while maybe ignored will most likely reach the Pakistani media and atleast the fans at large

This is ridiculous!

 

[Slog]

Still manages to not be in draft

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Still manages to not be in draft

Can you post the draft?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Is Sadaf invisible? @Saj

 

[big_gamer007]

Wow really feel sorry for this dude... Someone somewhere hates his guts..

 

[The_Odd_One]

He has been already ruled out without him bowling a single over in any international game.

I am sure he can't be worse than that Imran Khan Jr who Afridi played in T20s.

 

[nailbiter]

No more lefties please


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[The_Odd_One]

No more lefties please

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why not? It is not like Pakistan already has several world class left-handed pacers.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

After 9 years wait Sadaf Hussain makes T20 Debut !

Unbelievable.


One of the best List A bowling record in Pakistan and the guy had to wait 9 years to make T20 debut in Pakistan domestic Cricket.


Shocking.



But the wait is over.



In these 9 years atleast 100 if not more inferior bowlers have made debut in T20 Cricket in Pakistan.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Reason is bowlers like Sadaf, Rahat, Abbas are considered longer formats specialist. Just like Tanvir is considered T20 specialist

It is just a tag

 

[Abid Z]

Is he playing in the current regional tournament? I saw his name somewhere I think abbottabad or Rawalpindi but since then I’m not if he’s featured in any matches. If somebody can update that would be appreciated.

 

[Abdullah719]

Is he playing in the current regional tournament? I saw his name somewhere I think abbottabad or Rawalpindi but since then I’m not if he’s featured in any matches. If somebody can update that would be appreciated.

He has played 3/4 matches in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy for the Northern team.

His figures are 63-13-194-2.

Clearly not enjoying it.

 

[sallu78]

Clearly been found wanting on these difficult pitches. exposed is a better word for him.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Haha some people here genuinely believe/believed he's the real deal. Has been badly exposed. The guys fitness is horrible and is extremely one dimensional.

 

[zarak]

With the new kookaburra bowls...guys like sadaf will be filtered out..can't believe he lived in delusion thinking he was international quality

 

[Abid Z]

Wasn’t it the case that almost everybody here was saying that he’s the unlucky one to not get a chance with fabulous stats and potential. Wasn’t it the case that almost everybody was saying nepotism in the pcb keeps him out of the reckoning for team selection. Turns out according to the new structure and international standard balls he’s just average. I haven’t seen him as it’s not televised in England but isn’t it about time we congratulated the selection committee for keeping him in domestic? We criticise them so much but have to acknowledge they got this right despite the pressure from public.

 

[asfandyar]

Too old to debut now

 

[Sir-fraz]

This was bound to happen and there was a reason why he was never picked for tests.

Clearly the eye test held its own when it came to sadaf.

There were tons of bowlers with a below 25 bowling avg before the change of pitches and the bowl in domestic cricket.

We might see a decline for now but eventually the cremè of the crop will rise to the top.

 

[Finisher]

Hardly surprising to see Sadaf being given a chance in televised matches when he is past his best

 

[Slog]

Apparently he isn’t picked even for first or second eleven Northern sides this year.

Last year he didn’t have a unbelievably great season as he did in prior years but by no means was he awful. Certainly didn’t deserve to be dropped altogether.

The mystery of who is so against him really baffles me