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Akmal and Shehzad came back after performing properly and because of the way given by Khalid and Sharjeel.. (So you can't criticize this)

Babar Sarfaraz and Malik is a given at 3,4,5 Malik isn't going anywhere because he performs when his place is in doubt so can't do anything about it..

Hafeez or Zaman at 6 as a lower order batsman both have the hitting ability needed to play at this number. Umar Akmal (with a brain and without tond) would've been a better option but he ain't coming back.
I would've chosen Hussain Talat at 6 but right now he is way too young.

The last 5 are perfect you dont have any one better..

Shadab, Imad, Hasan Ali, M.Amir, Asghar,(if spinning track)
 
You should make an appointment with yourself:)
 
It's a trash team

It seems we are transported in a time warp to 2013 as far as batting is concerned
 
You should make an appointment with yourself:)

:)))
The only problem is that Shehzad and K.Akmal are back but why are they here???
Second Fakhar at 6 is a good option I guess or Hafeez with his bowling abilities... I prefer Hussain Talat at 6
Harris Sohail at 5 and I want to kick Hafeez and Malik out but we all know they ain't going anywhere..
 
It's a trash team

It seems we are transported in a time warp to 2013 as far as batting is concerned

2013 ? Lol wasn't Hafeez, Shehzad and Kamran the top order in Mohali in the 2011 World Cup ?

Its like Pakistan cricket is stuck in a Groundhog Day-like loop.
 
It's a trash team

It seems we are transported in a time warp to 2013 as far as batting is concerned

Tough day isn't it??? Shehzad back and Azhar gone... Must be dying with the agonizing pain...
Can't do anything about it kid came back after performing..
 
2013 ? Lol wasn't Hafeez, Shehzad and Kamran the top order in Mohali in the 2011 World Cup ?

Its like Pakistan cricket is stuck in a Groundhog Day-like loop.

Not the selectors fault blame Sharjeel and Khalid for throwing it away...
 
2013 ? Lol wasn't Hafeez, Shehzad and Kamran the top order in Mohali in the 2011 World Cup ?

Its like Pakistan cricket is stuck in a Groundhog Day-like loop.

Haha yea 2010-11. But that was sort of first time this golden trio came together

But it was in 2013 when the Golden Trio returned with much fanfare to fix our ODI team and take our limited overs cricket to the modern times
 
Tough day isn't it??? Shehzad back and Azhar gone... Must be dying with the agonizing pain...
Can't do anything about it kid came back after performing..

Lol. I've already said Shehzad deserves a recall. And you can hardly call me an azhar fan as far as one days are concerned. And if you have a problem with him in tests then God help you.

Any case he's not a kid. It's will be his 8th year in international cricket. Hopefully he finally makes it count
 
Not the selectors fault blame Sharjeel and Khalid for throwing it away...

I completely agree with you, those two nitwits have only themselves to blame and the selectors were put in a tight spot.

Neither Kamran or Shehzad would've been selected if it wasn't for the fixing scandal.
 
Lol. I've already said Shehzad deserves a recall. And you can hardly call me an azhar fan as far as one days are concerned. And if you have a problem with him in tests then God help you.

Any case he's not a kid. It's will be his 8th year in international cricket. Hopefully he finally makes it count

Azhar is by far the best Test bat I was just joking considering your history with Shehzad khair.. Can't do anything about other selections these guys perform when there place is in doubts all in all a good team considering other options..
 
I completely agree with you, those two nitwits have only themselves to blame and the selectors were put in a tight spot.

Neither Kamran or Shehzad would've been selected if it wasn't for the fixing scandal.

I think Shehzad was making a comeback regardless. But Kamran is a pick I don't agree because there isn't much upside and a lot to lose.

Shehzad on the other hand is still in mid 20s and with his domestic performances he deserves a call. And now that there is no Afridi to be his insurance policy as well as a new coach who he will have a clean slate with, maybe he won't have same distractions and can focus on doing well.

Obviously I won't be holding a lot of hopes because most likely I will be disappointed but going by his age and recent performances I think a recall is deserved regardless of extenuating circumstances with Sharjeel
 
I completely agree with you, those two nitwits have only themselves to blame and the selectors were put in a tight spot.

Neither Kamran or Shehzad would've been selected if it wasn't for the fixing scandal.

Obviously I believe Khalid would've performed in PSL and knowing Sarfaraz; Khalid would've made it to Odi in place of Azhar..and we'd have a modern team.. Right now this is the second string so all we can do is support them.
 
Forget about squad , lets talk about the team that will play.

Shehzad
akmal
azam
hafeez
malik
sarfraz
imad
Shadab (if he is lucky)
Hasan
Amir
wahab

Now please tell me that this team is good.
 
Forget about squad , lets talk about the team that will play.

Shehzad
akmal
azam
hafeez
malik
sarfraz
imad
Shadab (if he is lucky)
Hasan
Amir
wahab

Now please tell me that this team is good.

Yar literally how can you classify this team as good.

Babar azam, Amir and Imad are only potentially top quality players
 
I don't know how the squad looks good. We have a 25 year old thinking he is the second coming of Sachin whereas another 35 year old making his 76th come back begging for another chance. On top of that, we retained a 36 year old who could barely score in the PSL let alone score in international cricket.

Shows how our standards are free falling as this is considered is considered a good squad. :facepalm:
 
Yar literally how can you classify this team as good.

Babar azam, Amir and Imad are only potentially top quality players

Right? Thats what I am talking about. Our team top 6 will be mediocre heavy , completely out of sync with the modern day cricket. Too bad our only hope for the top order rejuvenation is suspended. The seniors always drag us behind.
 
Forget about squad , lets talk about the team that will play.

Shehzad
akmal
azam
hafeez
malik
sarfraz
imad
Shadab (if he is lucky)
Hasan
Amir
wahab

Now please tell me that this team is good.

wahab no! And considering Sarfaraz both Shadab and Asghar will be in odi team along with Imad. And with Amir and Hasan Ali the last 5 are perfect.

Shehzad and Kamran came back after performing on merit.

Babar , Sarafaraz at 4, Malik is a given no matter whoever the selector is they perform.

6 remains a problem and I believe that Hafeez with no swing can hit or else ill play Fakhar or Hussain at 6.

So what changes you want??
 
wahab no! And considering Sarfaraz both Shadab and Asghar will be in odi team along with Imad. And with Amir and Hasan Ali the last 5 are perfect.

Shehzad and Kamran came back after performing on merit.

Babar , Sarafaraz at 4, Malik is a given no matter whoever the selector is they perform.

6 remains a problem and I believe that Hafeez with no swing can hit or else ill play Fakhar or Hussain at 6.

So what changes you want??

LOL What are you talking about man , how are we going to play 4 spinners and 2 fast bowlers?

Asghar , imad , shadab , hafeez and likely malik too. We will need three quick bowlers at least.
 
Akmal and Shehzad came back after performing properly and because of the way given by Khalid and Sharjeel.. (So you can't criticize this)

Babar Sarfaraz and Malik is a given at 3,4,5 Malik isn't going anywhere because he performs when his place is in doubt so can't do anything about it..

Hafeez or Zaman at 6 as a lower order batsman both have the hitting ability needed to play at this number. Umar Akmal (with a brain and without tond) would've been a better option but he ain't coming back.
I would've chosen Hussain Talat at 6 but right now he is way too young.

The last 5 are perfect you dont have any one better..

Shadab, Imad, Hasan Ali, M.Amir, Asghar,(if spinning track)

I diasgree with you on many points and you overall premise , how you think Senior Professor will agree to bat at 6 is beyond me.

However what annoys me the most is how you say "Talat is way to young up be selected ". Why is shadab picked then, he is even younger

Talat performed great in list A , better than professor or zakir, but it is thinking like yours that is destroying our team
 
I diasgree with you on many points and you overall premise , how you think Senior Professor will agree to bat at 6 is beyond me.

However what annoys me the most is how you say "Talat is way to young up be selected ". Why is shadab picked then, he is even younger

Talat performed great in list A , better than professor or zakir, but it is thinking like yours that is destroying our team

**** young bowlers always perform and I don't want to waste hussain by exposing him in CT just so the axe comes down to him..
 
2017 & we are still going around in circles with TTF's. Inzi the 'revolutionary'.
 
**** young bowlers always perform and I don't want to waste hussain by exposing him in CT just so the axe comes down to him..

Please that is such an old excuse, especially when the current lot are largely awful. By this logic inzi should never have played in 92 wc. Now before you go crazy I'm not comparing Talat to inzi, but it's all relative, he isn't competing with great players.


Also you know full well that shadab is being picked as an all rounder and given how pedestrian this team looks I won't be surprised if the big hitting falls on his shoulders
 
K Akmal
A Shahzad
B Azam
S Ahmad
S Malik
F Zaman
S Khan
F Ashraf
I Wasim
H Ali
M Amir

That is not too bad of a line-up. Akmal deserves a return after bossing the domestic season. I would open with Fakhar, but that would mean either Shahzad and Hafeez at 6 and I don't think either can hit out from the word go. I think Zaman can after seeing him in the PSL, so he goes at 6 and Shahzad opens. Do not want Hafeez in the side.

The batting is deep with Amir at 11, and the bowling seems balanced with 3 pacers and 3 spinners (an offie, leggie and SLA).
 
The squad has some Short term options and that too very bad picks.

The top 7 are ahmad tuk tuk, kami hit or miss, hafeez out of form ftb, emerging babar azam, malik single, sarfaraz double and imad attitude.

Thats probably the worst combination in all of world cricket. Unless ahmad shehzad sheds his selfish attitude, kamran doesnt flop too often and babar doesn't play long innings, the team will struggle to post a half decent totals.
 
The squad has some Short term options and that too very bad picks.

The top 7 are ahmad tuk tuk, kami hit or miss, hafeez out of form ftb, emerging babar azam, malik single, sarfaraz double and imad attitude.

Thats probably the worst combination in all of world cricket. Unless ahmad shehzad sheds his selfish attitude, kamran doesnt flop too often and babar doesn't play long innings, the team will struggle to post a half decent totals.

Even if all that comes true there is still no lower order hitter at 6. The biggest issue with the squad is professor . His selection is completely undeserved and due to his senior tag he will probably bat at 4. This takes away sarfraz 's best position and renders him useless at 6.

Worse there is no lower order batsman in the squd. Zakir is a more traditional test player. Zaman is a top 3. The best they can do is probably zaman at 6 but I'll be shocked if he gets a game

And all this for the sake of professor

At least Kami and Shezhad you can justify to a certain extent
 
lol @ ODI squad looks good.

Ahmed kamran hafeez will be the top3. Babar's no.3 position in making is in danger. Very sure the top order collapses in the first few games and babar will be asked to open the batting. I feel MA's resignation is on the way in two months or after CT2017. Still puzzles me how MA choose Hafeez for both formats when he clearly knew hafeez' limit as a player. Hafeez is the only one got selected after bad PSL. He couldn't score in his first three matches of PSL but selected to play against WT20 champions in their own den. Hail INZI the revolution
 
Forget about squad , lets talk about the team that will play.

Shehzad
akmal
azam
hafeez
malik
sarfraz
imad
Shadab (if he is lucky)
Hasan
Amir
wahab

Now please tell me that this team is good.

A team that deserves the number 9 ranking.


Thank you Inzi :salute
 
alright so everyones whinging again..ok clevel clogs who would you have had in your team then?? cmon be bold post your alternatives up..
 
Who would you swlect...

My openers would be Fakhar and Babar.


We know what absolute dross we are going to get from Shehzad, Kami and Hafeez no harm in trying youngsters on an easy tour like WI. The trio will remain mediocre even if they play 300 matches each. A guy like Kamraan Akmal who averaged 26 after 150 matches will not become Smith, Root or Kohli all of a sudden at the ripe old age of 35. Same with Hafeez. The less said about Shehzad the better.
 
Even if all that comes true there is still no lower order hitter at 6. The biggest issue with the squad is professor . His selection is completely undeserved and due to his senior tag he will probably bat at 4. This takes away sarfraz 's best position and renders him useless at 6.

Worse there is no lower order batsman in the squd. Zakir is a more traditional test player. Zaman is a top 3. The best they can do is probably zaman at 6 but I'll be shocked if he gets a game

And all this for the sake of professor

At least Kami and Shezhad you can justify to a certain extent

I think the only reason hafeez has been selected is because of his bowling. I hope they realize that hafeez isnt the same bowler now. What i fear is that he might perform well with the ball on WI pitches. He is pretty much a dud with the bat now.
 
What sort of logic is this?


So Sharjeel and Latif threw it away and the selector's backup plan was to select TTFs. Come on man.

I agree Kamran, Shehzad and Hafeez selections are a MAJOR backwards step. However I strongly believe at least two, if not all three, wouldn't have made the squad without the suspensions of Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif.

As for alternatives - well Fakhar Zaman's also in the squad so there's no guarantee of those three starting. But who else ? Ahsan Ali and Nauman Anwar are raw and still developing whilst Mukhtar Ahmed and Awais Zia have been found out at international level.

Shahzaib Hasan could've made it to the national team after his domestic form but he hardly featured in the PSL - which may have been to do with him being part of the PSL fixing investigation. Hussain Talat and Saad Ali are definitely bright prospects but it appears they're off to the Emerging Players Cup and we'll be in a better position to assess them after that.

Fundamentally, we must ask ourselves why highly flawed players like Kamran and Shehzad look like the second coming of Greenidge and Haynes in our domestic system despite being repeatedly exposed in internationals ? We can fume at the selectors all we want but we'll never get better squads without a long, hard look at our domestic structure which is not producing enough international-standard cricketers.
 
The bowling looks very good for both squads, with Sohail Khan being the only main omission. Also, Asghar should've been in the T20I squad over Nawaz while Yamin should've been there over Wahab, but that's nothing major.

The batting, however, seems pathetic but as mentioned above, who exactly are the alternatives? How can you repeatedly ignore Kamran & Shehzad after their recent performances?

I agree Talat & Saad should've been there over the likes of Zakir (too old) and Hafeez.

But Hafeez (atleast in T20Is) & Zakir are likely to start on the bench.

It seems Kami and Shehzad's selections are irking everybody, and unfortunately, as mentioned by [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], we really don't have any alternatives after what Sharjeel, Khalid and even Jamshed have done, and after the recent Shahzaib reports.
 
The bowling looks very good for both squads, with Sohail Khan being the only main omission. Also, Asghar should've been in the T20I squad over Nawaz while Yamin should've been there over Wahab, but that's nothing major.

The batting, however, seems pathetic but as mentioned above, who exactly are the alternatives? How can you repeatedly ignore Kamran & Shehzad after their recent performances?

I agree Talat & Saad should've been there over the likes of Zakir (too old) and Hafeez.

But Hafeez (atleast in T20Is) & Zakir are likely to start on the bench.

It seems Kami and Shehzad's selections are irking everybody, and unfortunately, as mentioned by [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], we really don't have any alternatives after what Sharjeel, Khalid and even Jamshed have done, and after the recent Shahzaib reports.

Sarfraz should open with Babar.
 
My openers would be Fakhar and Babar.


We know what absolute dross we are going to get from Shehzad, Kami and Hafeez no harm in trying youngsters on an easy tour like WI. The trio will remain mediocre even if they play 300 matches each. A guy like Kamraan Akmal who averaged 26 after 150 matches will not become Smith, Root or Kohli all of a sudden at the ripe old age of 35. Same with Hafeez. The less said about Shehzad the better.

Shehzad is 25 and you can't write him off this young. What more do you want him to do? He was dropped, performed at the domestic level and even though he is a bit of a tool, he's no fixer like Sharjeel and Latif. Kamran has been the best batsman in Pakistan on form. Hafeez deserves a chance to be establish himself as a LO all rounder again.

When you lose your first choice openers, you do have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Babar is our #3, that's his best position. Fakhar will probably be given his chance, let's hope he grabs it.
 
Be realistic. Sarfraz just became an important part of our middle-order.

Not if he is batting at 6.

The only solution I see is if Hafeez opens with Shehzad with Babar at 3, Malik at 4, Sarfraz at 5 and Kammy at 6.

If Hafeez fails - drop him for Fakhar.
 
Not if he is batting at 6.

The only solution I see is if Hafeez opens with Shehzad with Babar at 3, Malik at 4, Sarfraz at 5 and Kammy at 6.

If Hafeez fails - drop him for Fakhar.

Sarfraz is likely to bat at #5 as he has been doing.
 
2013 ? Lol wasn't Hafeez, Shehzad and Kamran the top order in Mohali in the 2011 World Cup ?

Its like Pakistan cricket is stuck in a Groundhog Day-like loop.


Nope, Ahmed Shehzad was not playing. It was the Kamran Akmal, Hafeez and Asad Sobers Shafiq..
 
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