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Abdullah719

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Too many silly gimmicks on social media. The championship bands. The talk about 'home advantage'.

Fans may have their heads in the air, but if the players start to believe in their own hype, then they deserve to lose.

Both Arthur and Malik have alluded to complacency and reality checks in their recent pressers. That means one thing. The team thought that it was better than it really was.

This team is not as bad as it looks. But they got used to beating minnows and forgot how to deal with real teams. Now comes the hard part. Bouncing back from such a devastating tournament is not easy and only those with character will be able to do it.

Some personnel changes might be required, but changing the whole team would be stupid at this stage, as it's a fairly young team. Young blood again will mean another long period of 'settling down' while we certainly do not need Shehzads, Akmals and Butts, along with other TTFs back in the team.
 
Have no issues with players on social media or funny haircuts
 
Coach is the biggest cheerleader too like shastri. He disrespect bd and got this. He knows how to please masses by choosing words correctly.
 
Is it right to play 4-5 accumulators in the team in the modern era. Even an accumulator will be known as a modern batsman against minnows. Are the players really good enough to succeed in the long run?
 
Sarfraz needs to go. Effectively playing with ten players and his captaincy and morale is just a hindrance. Full time
Clown
 
Savak said:
Is it right to play 4-5 accumulators in the team in the modern era. Even an accumulator will be known as a modern batsman against minnows. Are the players really good enough to succeed in the long run?
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If there was one tournament where accumulators should have theoretically come in handy, it's this.

In the larger context of modern-day ODI cricket, I agree with your point.
 
And that stupid chain Hasan Ali wears around his neck. Wannabe bunch.
 
[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] I am quoting with reference to the thread here "we will take revenge from India in final". So before reaching final, he is talking about revenge. Bd is international cricket team and they are also came to dubai for winning.
And then playing darter and all trundlers in dubai.
 
dhonixi said:
[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] I am quoting with reference to the thread here "we will take revenge from India in final". So before reaching final, he is talking about revenge. Bd is international cricket team and they are also came to dubai for winning.
And then playing darter and all trundlers in dubai.
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That article was fake news.
 
Bewal Express said:
We as fans need to be remember that there arent any players waiting in the wings that are any better.
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Nah, people said the same before Fakhar Zaman, Shadab and Hasan Ali came along. When players don't perform for a while, they get benched to get their heads and game sorted out while those on the bench with their hunger get an opportunity.

This is how it should be. International Cricket is not a joke. Its time to give some players a much needed kick up the back side provided Mickey Arthur goes through with his ruthless performance culture that he talks about introducing.
 
About time Mickey Arthur is fired. He is very good at playing to the galleries.
 
i hope playerd get rid of those championship bands nd instagram accounts. Cricket is a game of skills,technique,temprament, courage and u dont learn all of these by wearing bands
 
Abdullah719 said:
You don't go into a tournament with a self-proclaimed advantage and then get smashed left, right and centre.
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I know it hurts man but I have high hopes from this team. Only two players over 30. I'm fine with these losses now as long as they improve and become a better team in the next few years.
 
cricketjoshila said:
About time Mickey Arthur is fired. He is very good at playing to the galleries.
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If anything, his tall claims of having made a big difference to Pakistan Cricket have been brutally exposed in this series.
 
A wake up call for Pakistan. This batting or bowling (apart from Afridi and Junaid. Amir only takes wickets on seaming pitches like in England) will not do well in next year's world cup in England (Bowling might because of the seaming conditions).

Batting is mainly comprised of bits and pieces players apart from Babar. By any standards, Sarfraz is an ordinary batsman and if he is batting at 4 or 5 this shows lack of quality and depth in this batting line-up. Collectively our batsmen are simply not capable of posting > 220 or 230 on most days unless Fakhar fires upfront. With Fakhar being out of form batting struggled big time in Asia Cup. Asif is another hack. He needs to learn how to construct an innings. The CT final last year was an exception rather than the norm. That day Fakhar clicked and the rest utilised on the good start after that. But Fakhar is an explosive player. The way he bats he will either score brisk runs or get out cheaply
 
Savak said:
Nah, people said the same before Fakhar Zaman, Shadab and Hasan Ali came along. When players don't perform for a while, they get benched to get their heads and game sorted out while those on the bench with their hunger get an opportunity.

This is how it should be. International Cricket is not a joke. Its time to give some players a much needed kick up the back side provided Mickey Arthur goes through with his ruthless performance culture that he talks about introducing.
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Dont need wholesale changes till world cup. Otherwise we will back to square one.
 
Rayyman said:
I know it hurts man but I have high hopes from this team. Only two players over 30. I'm fine with these losses now as long as they improve and become a better team in the next few years.
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Losses don't make a better team, progress does.

The way Faqar, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have performed, this seems more of a regression.
 
An A grade debacle this. Poor from all aspects.

Selection (no spinners, no specialist batsmen)

Batting (everybody out of form, too many grafters)

Bowling ( again no spinners, out of form pacers, amir absolutely useless)

Fielding (dropped catches galore)

Coaching and captaincy (poor plans and playing XI)

There is no positive which came out of this tournament except Shaheen Shah Afridi.
 
Rayyman said:
I know it hurts man but I have high hopes from this team. Only two players over 30. I'm fine with these losses now as long as they improve and become a better team in the next few years.
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Not fine with the losses, but agree with your larger point.
 
I am Amir's biggest fan but he has been a disaster. Same for Babar. Nawaz is useless and does nothing. Shadab has been very poor as well. Sarfraz needs to improve or there is the door.
 
Ugh. This place is going to be insufferable for the next few days. Going to try to stay off it, until all the hysteria dies down.
 
On the contrary, I think the players have gone the other way.. a complete lack of belief in themselves.
 
BlackShadow said:
Losses don't make a better team, progress does.

The way Faqar, Hasan, Amir and Shadab have performed, this seems more of a regression.
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Fakhar, Amir and Hasan are just in poor form. Imo there is no such thing as regression unless a player is aging. As for Shadab, he is not a good enough all-rounder in LOIs. Has just made himself look good by bashing minnows.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Dont need wholesale changes till world cup. Otherwise we will back to square one.
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Can't persist with out of form players and players who have been found out in international cricket. It is up to the players to get back into form and earn a recall again.
 
That's a Mamoon-esque title if I have ever seen one :)).
 
IMMY69 said:
On the contrary, I think the players have gone the other way.. a complete lack of belief in themselves.
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Everything was fine until the first shattering by India.

Once they were brought down to Earth, they couldn't recover in such a short period of time.

It's a game of confidence.
 
Our batting needs a lot of work but I can see talent in this team. They need more confidence and more experience. I think we will need a change of captaincy in the long run though. Sarfraz just isn't good enough. Not expecting us to have a team of superstars. But I think we are capable of having a team who can compete in all formats
 
Pete Rose said:
Ugh. This place is going to be insufferable for the next few days. Going to try to stay off it, until all the hysteria dies down.
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Do you blame anyone here? This is a literal crash from all the progress this team seemed to have made since last year. I still can't believe it tbh.
 
It's ok winning & loosing are part of the game ! So, the moral of the story is one person's overstepping can bring some much sadness for a nation after an year as they couldn't see their weakness & only believed in fugazzi hype... its all bcoz of bumrah

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OP was one of those Pak posters during the CT17 final who was fair while enjoying the win during play.

Hard luck today. Stay cool :)
 
Abdullah719 said:
Well, as opposed to the fans.

Fans just talk, there's a wide spectrum of opinions... players need to walk the talk, and they failed ever so miserably.
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More seriously, I share your disappointment but I am optimistic some good will come out of this tournament.

In particular, hopefully Mickey/selectors finally see the importance of specialist spinners in the squad. I just pray it doesn't mean TTFs like Hafeez and Imad are recalled.
 
Well we weren't going to beat India with this batting. Now we'll see a more competitive final, with teams who deserve to be there, and Bangladesh might actually have a chance to win. In terms of this match, feel empty after this loss, what an awful performance by this team in the asia cup.
 
Abdullah719 said:
You don't go into a tournament with a self-proclaimed advantage and then get smashed left, right and centre.
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That was more media hype more than anything.

Pakistan's overall ODI record in UAE is average/poor.

IIRC Pakistan haven't played too many ODIs in the UAE under this management.

This team is young and inexperienced. Hiccups will happen; unfortunately all our key players decided not to perform simultaneously.
 
Madplayer said:
An A grade debacle this. Poor from all aspects.

Selection (no spinners, no specialist batsmen)

Batting (everybody out of form, too many grafters)

Bowling ( again no spinners, out of form pacers, amir absolutely useless)

Fielding (dropped catches galore)

Coaching and captaincy (poor plans and playing XI)

There is no positive which came out of this tournament except Shaheen Shah Afridi.
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+1 to all of above. Add to it extra defensive mindset of our captain and players.

Glad you did not include "Imam" as a positive. He is no improvement on Azhar (strike rate is poor).
 
I can’t understand it really. First, you beat drums of having home advantage then go to tournament with 1 spinner and 4 left arm seamers.��
 
mak36 said:
That was more media hype more than anything.

Pakistan's overall ODI record in UAE is average/poor.

IIRC Pakistan haven't played too many ODIs in the UAE under this management.

This team is young and inexperienced. Hiccups will happen; unfortunately all our key players decided not to perform simultaneously.
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That's true, but there were a few comments from Sarfaraz (I think) about home conditions etc. and thus a perceived advantage.

Previously I don't think people realised what a horrible record Pakistan has in UAE ODIs, but I think it'll be hammered in now.
 
Pakistan's working formula is restricting opposition to below par score play conservative cricket and win it. Their bowling prowess is not the same anymore. So that formula is not working anymore.
 
I back these guys to bounce back but no doubt that Fakhar, Babar, Sarfraz, Hasan, Shadab, Amir have all been below par. The only bright spots have been Shaheen and Junaid but let's not kid ourselves that Junaid will put in performances like this every match.

The jury is still out on Imam. He's displayed solid temperament and technique but I guess we just need to see him more against top teams in their conditions.
 
Yah we lost.
We played really badly and some of the guys who thought that they were already world beaters got a reality check.
Fakhar , shadab and hassan need to think long and hard about their game and get out of 'ahmed shahzad' mentality , no you arent world beaters guys.

Asif ali needs to be dropped , an absolute hack.
Nawaz isnt international class.
Shinwari too is a minnows basher.

Imam
Fakhar
Haris
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz ( one more series)
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Junaid
Shaheen

Shan masood
Rumman raees
Imad waseem
Saud shakil
 
IndianHero said:
It's ok winning & loosing are part of the game ! So, the moral of the story is one person's overstepping can bring some much sadness for a nation after an year as they couldn't see their weakness & only believed in fugazzi hype... its all bcoz of bumrah

nyz5fk.jpg
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Let's not talk about luck. In 2003 and 2011 had the catches not been dropped you would have lost have as well. You could easily say India are better overall and everyone reasonable would agree.
 
IndianHero said:
It's ok winning & loosing are part of the game ! So, the moral of the story is one person's overstepping can bring some much sadness for a nation after an year as they couldn't see their weakness & only believed in fugazzi hype... its all bcoz of bumrah

nyz5fk.jpg
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Second that, too much hype and false sense if bravado spoiled good players like Fakhar, Hassan and Shadab. Amir is once in blue moon performer anyway !
 
I think there is no need to be toonhard with the players. Fans with delusional outlook needed a reality check. Player like Fakhar are new to the stage and can be forgiven.
 
The best thing for Pakistan would be to hire Greg Chappell and give him full control.
 
I say it is a blessing in disguise. This Fakhar Azam awesomeness kept all the loopholes under the carpet for a while.
Not sure what has happened to Shadab Khan though.
 
The loss is not as big a deal as people will make it out to be. You learn more about your team in losses than wins so this is good preparation for the World Cup.
 
Savak said:
Nah, people said the same before Fakhar Zaman, Shadab and Hasan Ali came along. When players don't perform for a while, they get benched to get their heads and game sorted out while those on the bench with their hunger get an opportunity.

This is how it should be. International Cricket is not a joke. Its time to give some players a much needed kick up the back side provided Mickey Arthur goes through with his ruthless performance culture that he talks about introducing.
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The players that have been talked about like Akmal, Alam etc wont bring anything to the team. Teams go through these phases and we are not very good and havent been for the best part of a decade+. The CT was a perfect storm but the batting has been poor for the best part of this century- remember the debacle in 2003 or 2007. A strong domestic scene played on a good wickets in dry warm weather will be the key to producing better batsman and bowlers. Our system if you can call it that, relied on discovering gems but we have discovered less and less as time has gone on.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
The loss is not as big a deal as people will make it out to be. You learn more about your team in losses than wins so this is good preparation for the World Cup.
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I agree. But that is predicated on the assumption the likes of Hafeez, Imad and other TTFs won't be brought back.
 
mak36 said:
I agree. But that is predicated on the assumption the likes of Hafeez, Imad and other TTFs won't be brought back.
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I'm not assuming anything but am hoping they've learned just a little bit to select better in the future.
 
cricketjoshila said:
About time Mickey Arthur is fired. He is very good at playing to the galleries.
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Definitely not, but more poor shows in the upcoming Tests in UAE will mean that the noise, specially from the media and ex-players will start to increase. In the past, that's worked, but hopefully we've moved on. The players need time.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Definitely not, but more poor shows in the upcoming Tests in UAE will mean that the noise, specially from the media and ex-players will start to increase. In the past, that's worked, but hopefully we've moved on. The players need time.
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There you go. He has played to the galleries well.
 
Bewal Express said:
The players that have been talked about like Akmal, Alam etc wont bring anything to the team. Teams go through these phases and we are not very good and havent been for the best part of a decade+. The CT was a perfect storm but the batting has been poor for the best part of this century- remember the debacle in 2003 or 2007. A strong domestic scene played on a good wickets in dry warm weather will be the key to producing better batsman and bowlers. Our system if you can call it that, relied on discovering gems but we have discovered less and less as time has gone on.
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Sri Lanka have just axed Angelo Mathews to send him the message that his pathetic attitude towards his fitness and the game will not be tolerated. We are unfortunately a nation which only operates via danda, the Pakistani players cannot be trusted to improve their fitness, skills on their own and unfortunately they need a brutal kick on their backsides to get them to focus on their games properly again.

This is not just specific to our cricket but to us overall as a nation.
 
Absolutely ridiculous thread .

It's the 21st century FGS, Virat Kohli has over 20 million followers on Instagram.

The problem is that they didn't believe their own hype, had they believed it they would've had the mentality to chase down scores, to attack the opposition and not wilt at the slightest hint of pressure.
 
I am more worried about the test series against Australia and New Zealand coming up. If we cant beat them at 'home', then the Micky/Sarfraz double act will coming to an end before the year is out.

This Asia Cup has little relevance for a World Cup in England.
 
MeanAndGreen said:
Absolutely ridiculous thread .

It's the 21st century FGS, Virat Kohli has over 20 million followers on Instagram.

The problem is that they didn't believe their own hype, had they believed it they would've had the mentality to chase down scores, to attack the opposition and not wilt at the slightest hint of pressure.
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The definitely did believe in their own hype, that is what Mickey has alluded to by talking about a 'reality check'. Malik also mentioned that it's in the culture to relax and take things easy after a few wins which is obviously a passing reference to complacent attitudes.

The haircuts, bands and necklaces aren't a major issue, though I have my opinion on that, but I don't feel it's important enough to pursue a discussion over.

The crux behind the complacent attitudes is the fact that Pakistan hasn't played any good sides in a long time which has given a false sense of security to the team. When challenged, they simply did not have the answers; they thought they'd just find a way, but it never happened.

One of the biggest issues that I felt we had coming into this tournament was the amount of pressure Fakhar was put under. The constant comments from Mickey and Sarfaraz on the team relying on his starts seemed to take their toll on him, specially considering the fact that he hasn't really found his feet in UAE yet. Most of our recent LOI performances were heavily dependent on him, and he probably started over-thinking things. This has put the team in somewhat of a dilemma - Ideally we need another aggressive opener alongside Fakhar to take the pressure off him, every modern-day ODI team has dynamic openers. But Imam has done well after the first match against India which was a horror show, and it would be unfair to not give him further chances. So, the issues are really starting all the way from the top. Besides that, Sarfaraz is making it ever so difficult for people to back him. The management wants to go to the World Cup with him leading the team but the tide is firmly against him now. His captaincy was average and batting horrible.
 
The tournament shows despite the progress we've made, there's still distance between ourselves and the top teams in ODI cricket. It's a reality check BUT we can't hit the panic button on the back of one poor tournament. A month ago some people were praising the team and coaching staff to the hilt yet now want everyone fired.

This is a young team that'll only learn how to cope with pressure situations the more they're exposed to them. We'll be back to square one if we decide to make mass changes. Where changes must be made is with our tactics in UAE and ensure we select specialist spinners who can exploit the conditions.

It's true some of the pre-tournament social media stuff was cringy and we can't keep dining out on the CT. These losses shows how opponents have been doing their homework against us after the CT so it's vital the youngsters to keep improving their game.
 
Abdullah719 said:
The definitely did believe in their own hype, that is what Mickey has alluded to by talking about a 'reality check'. Malik also mentioned that it's in the culture to relax and take things easy after a few wins which is obviously a passing reference to complacent attitudes.

The haircuts, bands and necklaces aren't a major issue, though I have my opinion on that, but I don't feel it's important enough to pursue a discussion over.

The crux behind the complacent attitudes is the fact that Pakistan hasn't played any good sides in a long time which has given a false sense of security to the team. When challenged, they simply did not have the answers; they thought they'd just find a way, but it never happened.

One of the biggest issues that I felt we had coming into this tournament was the amount of pressure Fakhar was put under. The constant comments from Mickey and Sarfaraz on the team relying on his starts seemed to take their toll on him, specially considering the fact that he hasn't really found his feet in UAE yet. Most of our recent LOI performances were heavily dependent on him, and he probably started over-thinking things. This has put the team in somewhat of a dilemma - Ideally we need another aggressive opener alongside Fakhar to take the pressure off him, every modern-day ODI team has dynamic openers. But Imam has done well after the first match against India which was a horror show, and it would be unfair to not give him further chances. So, the issues are really starting all the way from the top. Besides that, Sarfaraz is making it ever so difficult for people to back him. The management wants to go to the World Cup with him leading the team but the tide is firmly against him now. His captaincy was average and batting horrible.
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Sarfraz is definitely a concern. You just cannot have a non performing captain - that too occupying a key middle order spot.
 
Abdullah719 said:
The definitely did believe in their own hype, that is what Mickey has alluded to by talking about a 'reality check'. Malik also mentioned that it's in the culture to relax and take things easy after a few wins which is obviously a passing reference to complacent attitudes.

The haircuts, bands and necklaces aren't a major issue, though I have my opinion on that, but I don't feel it's important enough to pursue a discussion over.

The crux behind the complacent attitudes is the fact that Pakistan hasn't played any good sides in a long time which has given a false sense of security to the team. When challenged, they simply did not have the answers; they thought they'd just find a way, but it never happened.

One of the biggest issues that I felt we had coming into this tournament was the amount of pressure Fakhar was put under. The constant comments from Mickey and Sarfaraz on the team relying on his starts seemed to take their toll on him, specially considering the fact that he hasn't really found his feet in UAE yet. Most of our recent LOI performances were heavily dependent on him, and he probably started over-thinking things. This has put the team in somewhat of a dilemma - Ideally we need another aggressive opener alongside Fakhar to take the pressure off him, every modern-day ODI team has dynamic openers. But Imam has done well after the first match against India which was a horror show, and it would be unfair to not give him further chances. So, the issues are really starting all the way from the top. Besides that, Sarfaraz is making it ever so difficult for people to back him. The management wants to go to the World Cup with him leading the team but the tide is firmly against him now. His captaincy was average and batting horrible.
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The biggest elephant in the room is that we have too many accumulators in the team i.e. Sr 60-70 batsmen in Imam, Babar, Malik, Sarfaraz. That is just not good enough and is an outdated 90's brand of cricket.

Shadab is not a proper batsman, he does not have the proper technique to deliver consistently and does not bat a high strike rate. Mickey Arthur has wasted the last year and a half against minnows backing the wrong players because even these accumulators will look world class against minnows.

The selectors need to select the right players for the Modern T-20 and ODI format. Having plenty of aggressive batsmen in the team uplift even the accumulators.
 
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This is the type of stuff [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] is talking about.
 
Why on earth they can play Mr Mohammad Nawaz???

People might say we won CT and what not last year. But I still think the man who brought the team to that stage was Imad Wasim. Had he not dismissed Hashim Amla and ABDv in consecutive balls vs South Africa. We would have have been seeing different Pak team today.

Credit where it is due. Just see the pathetic numbers Nawaz has, and yet he plays. Can't bat, can't bowl:

Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests Insights on test 3 4 0 50 25 12.50 157 31.84 0 0 4 0 2 0
ODIs Insights on odi 14 12 3 199 53 22.11 213 93.42 0 1 15 3 4 0
T20Is Insights on t20i 16 2 0 13 7 6.50 20 65.00 0 0 1 0 6 0
First-class 40 59 3 1791 170 31.98 3460 51.76 3 9 245 4 23 0
List A 73 62 9 1627 187 30.69 1784 91.19 1 9 147 21 17 0
T20s Insights on t20 81 48 14 625 43* 18.38 599 104.34 0 0 47 17 32 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests Insights on test 3 6 383 147 5 2/32 4/70 29.40 2.30 76.6 0 0 0
ODIs Insights on odi 14 14 675 583 16 4/42 4/42 36.43 5.18 42.1 1 0 0
T20Is Insights on t20i 16 16 300 340 12 2/11 2/11 28.33 6.80 25.0 0 0 0
First-class 40 57 3188 1508 59 7/31 11/93 25.55 2.83 54.0 3 1 1
List A 73 69 3271 2753 85 4/42 4/42 32.38 5.04 38.4 3 0 0
T20s Insights on t20 81 72 1342 1547 57 4/13 4/13 27.14 6.91 23.5 2 0 0
 
iniqbal223 said:
Why on earth they can play Mr Mohammad Nawaz???

People might say we won CT and what not last year. But I still think the man who brought the team to that stage was Imad Wasim. Had he not dismissed Hashim Amla and ABDv in consecutive balls vs South Africa. We would have have been seeing different Pak team today.

Credit where it is due. Just see the pathetic numbers Nawaz has, and yet he plays. Can't bat, can't bowl:

Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests Insights on test 3 4 0 50 25 12.50 157 31.84 0 0 4 0 2 0
ODIs Insights on odi 14 12 3 199 53 22.11 213 93.42 0 1 15 3 4 0
T20Is Insights on t20i 16 2 0 13 7 6.50 20 65.00 0 0 1 0 6 0
First-class 40 59 3 1791 170 31.98 3460 51.76 3 9 245 4 23 0
List A 73 62 9 1627 187 30.69 1784 91.19 1 9 147 21 17 0
T20s Insights on t20 81 48 14 625 43* 18.38 599 104.34 0 0 47 17 32 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests Insights on test 3 6 383 147 5 2/32 4/70 29.40 2.30 76.6 0 0 0
ODIs Insights on odi 14 14 675 583 16 4/42 4/42 36.43 5.18 42.1 1 0 0
T20Is Insights on t20i 16 16 300 340 12 2/11 2/11 28.33 6.80 25.0 0 0 0
First-class 40 57 3188 1508 59 7/31 11/93 25.55 2.83 54.0 3 1 1
List A 73 69 3271 2753 85 4/42 4/42 32.38 5.04 38.4 3 0 0
T20s Insights on t20 81 72 1342 1547 57 4/13 4/13 27.14 6.91 23.5 2 0 0
Click to expand...

Agree he needs to be dropped for good.
 
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