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Now the military chiefs are saying the Duke should step down from his honorary appointments as he is an embarrassment to HM Armed Forces.
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Now the military chiefs are saying the Duke should step down from his honorary appointments as he is an embarrassment to HM Armed Forces.
His decision to take the interview has to be right up there with Theresa May's decision to call an election in 2017!
Contender for the Darwin award?
A US woman who says she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York aged 17 has given her first UK television interview - on Monday's BBC Panorama.
Virginia Giuffre, one of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's accusers, says both she and Prince Andrew "know what happened".
The prince "categorically" denies having any sexual contact with her.
Earlier the Met Police defended its decision not to probe a trafficking claim by Ms Giuffre against Epstein.
The force said it stood by its conclusion that it was "not the appropriate authority" to investigate the American woman's claims.
Ms Giuffre - then called Virginia Roberts - alleges she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew three times between 2001 - when she was 17 - and 2002, in London, New York and Epstein's private island in the US Virgin Islands.
Buckingham Palace has described the allegations as "false and without any foundation".
In an interview with BBC Newsnight's Emily Maitlis earlier this month, the prince said the alleged incidents "never happened".
In a special hour-long Panorama, to be aired on BBC One on 2 December but recorded before the Newsnight interview, Ms Giuffre says: "It was a really scary time in my life.
"He knows what happened, I know what happened. And there's only one of us telling the truth."
Prince Andrew - the Queen's third child - has been facing questions over his ties to Epstein, a US financier who took his own life in August awaiting trial on sex-trafficking charges.
The prince has faced a growing backlash following an the Newsnight interview about his friendship with the US financier.
He has stepped back from royal duties because the Epstein scandal has become a "major disruption" to the Royal Family.
He later said he deeply sympathised with sex offender Epstein's victims and everyone who "wants some form of closure".
Companies he has links with, such as BT and Barclays, have joined universities and charities in distancing themselves from him.
In a statement, the prince said he was "willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations, if required".
During his Newsnight interview, Prince Andrew said he could not recall ever meeting Ms Giuffre and said that on the night she claims they first met he had gone to Pizza Express in Woking and then returned home.
He sought to cast doubt on her testimony claiming that he was "profusely sweating" in a nightclub, saying that a medical condition at the time meant he could not perspire.
Ms Giuffre's latest comments form part of a longer investigation by Panorama into the Epstein scandal and the prince's links with the convicted child sex offender.
During the programme, BBC reporter Darragh MacIntyre will also look at another of the prince's friends, Ghislaine Maxwell, investigating her alleged links to the Epstein scandal.
'Position unchanged'
Earlier on Thursday, the Metropolitan Police defended its decision not to investigate a claim of trafficking by Ms Giuffre.
She says the force failed to check her allegation that she had been trafficked to London in 2001 by Epstein.
Commander Alex Murray said that after taking legal advice, "it was clear that any investigation into human trafficking would be largely focused on activities and relationships outside the UK".
The Met reviewed that decision after Epstein died in US custody earlier this year.
Commander Murray said that "our position remains unchanged".
Panorama: The Prince and the Epstein Scandal will air on Monday at 21:00 GMT, BBC One.
From what I hear he is an arrogant man who will not take advice and has an inflated idea of his intelligence.
From what I hear he is an arrogant man who will not take advice and has an inflated idea of his intelligence.
Prince Andrew is awful and self-righteous and dim. That much seems clear, and the story of his association with Jeffrey Epstein seems likely to get worse: There are rumors that Prince Andrew will be asked to talk to U.S. law enforcement agencies about Epstein. Johanna Sjoberg has accused Andrew of groping her at Epstein’s home. A BBC interview with Andrew’s main accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, will air on Monday, in which she describes the “really scary time” in her life. (He has denied the accusations.) Prince Andrew’s now-notorious BBC interview was, his assurances to his mother the queen notwithstanding, a disaster. Within days, the royal family forced him to step down, and he’s had to move his offices out of Buckingham Palace. The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra has severed ties with him. Queen Elizabeth even canceled his birthday party.
For Americans, this is disorienting, maybe even mesmerizing. On the one hand, the squalid, casual abuse of which Prince Andrew stands accused is horribly familiar: There’s a pattern of rich and powerful men preying on weaker parties in this country, and at the highest levels of leadership. On the other hand, it’s astonishing to witness a man of that stature facing discipline and expulsion from a power structure that includes members of his literal family. That’s unimaginable here (imagine one Trump disciplining another!). However laughably light Andrew’s “punishments” might seem—the man is still a millionaire several times over, has lived a life of immense privilege, and doesn’t seem to be in imminent danger of (for example) going to prison—he is disgraced. And he lives in a social world where disgrace must actually sting. Americans don’t live in that society. Even Harvey Weinstein is now being invited to events, and those who object are being kicked out. Prince Andrew has been ostracized (by the British public and the press) and yet Donald Trump still enjoys wide support from his base; despite many credible accusations of assault, his supporters blame the women he allegedly abused. This might partly explain why Americans remain so fascinated by the royals: They seem to be the one kind of world-famous celebrity for whom strict standards of conduct and restraint are even notionally enforced.
If you’ve watched Netflix’s The Crown, which dramatizes the long life of Queen Elizabeth II, you’ve seen that show thematize, time and again, how the monarch’s work has been to strip herself of her individuality in order to better serve the office: The queen functions as the ultimate anti-Trump. She was not, except under the strictest, most controlled circumstances, to express preferences or opinions. The office required a studied, careful neutrality, and this became all the more important as the Crown’s real power diminished. When commitment to that principle flagged—whenever a royal let himself be guided more by personal inclinations than duty—disaster struck. The royal scandals the show covers are quite minor, but they have outsize consequences: King Edward VIII abdicated the throne in order to marry Wallis Simpson, who’d married too many times to be queen. Princess Margaret was not allowed to marry a divorced man, so she married one who had affairs, and had a few of her own.
By the time Charles and Diana came along, the sex scandals got uglier and their consequences messier. But the royal family was clinging desperately to its soft power, and it did so by trading on the one thing it had that other celebrities didn’t: the veneer of intense respectability.
That veneer is crumbling. It’s not exactly a secret that the royal family is punishing Andrew because of his bad press, not his bad actions, accounts of which surfaced as long ago as 2015. Prince Charles, Vanity Fair reported, “has stayed silent about the interview, but multiple reports have emerged that he was less than pleased about his trip being overshadowed in the headlines.” According to Fox News, he’s angry that his environmental-awareness tour “has been completely overshadowed by the 59-year-old’s scandal impacting the British royal family.”
These are petty concerns, and yet they’ve produced a desirable result: A bad man who associated with horrifying people has lost things that mattered to him. Someone enforced a consequence. The queen might still be on his side—Andrew is reportedly her favorite, and she went horseback riding with him the day after his resignation—but the pomp and circumstance on which so much of his self-image depended has been taken from him. He is in disgrace in a world where disgrace is still a category.
The United Kingdom and the United States bear striking similarities. When it comes to hard politics, both governments are currently led by oddly coiffed misogynistic leaders whose fans love them for their misconduct, dishonesty, and lack of impulse control. But the royal family is different: It still at least notionally aspires to standards political leaders seem to have abandoned. Americans watch the royals, rapt, for signs of slippage and failure, but also out of a kind of awe at how long they’ve sustained the illusion of honor. Yes, they’re mooches and hypocrites, but—as my colleague Ben Mathis-Lilley has written—maybe hypocrisy is better than the alternative.
The man is the son of the Queen . This is a disgrace but either being brushed under the carpet or people saying poor tactics.
Surely he should be forced to face questions? Or is being a pedophile ok as long as it doesn’t give good ol Blighty a bad image ?
Well, if the US DoJ want to start extradition proceedings that is up to them.
Until someone is tried and found guilty I would never use the p-word.
Do you not want him to face questions? This isn't some V.A.T fraud for £2.50, it's paedophilia. Why is the British government and others not demanding we investigate him fully or with the Yanks?
At the moment all I see is that the Duke had a very unwise friendship with Jeffrey Epstein who was convicted of sex with an underage girl and to sex trafficking of minors in the USA. He should have cut ties upon Epstein's conviction. It was very stupid not to have done so.
What crime do you think was committed in the UK? It's up to an alleged victim of an alleged crime in the UK to make a complaint to Police in the UK, in which case the CPS may bring charges, not the Government as we aren't a police state.
Virginia Roberts made an allegation in a Florida civil court about the Duke, which has been stricken from the public record. There's no American criminal investigation ongoing as far as I know.
If somebody makes a credible allegation to the Police, then let the Duke face questioning and if necessary his accuser in criminal court.
At the moment all I see is that the Duke had a very unwise friendship with Jeffrey Epstein who was convicted of sex with an underage girl and to sex trafficking of minors in the USA. He should have cut ties upon Epstein's conviction. It was very stupid not to have done so.
What crime do you think was committed in the UK? It's up to an alleged victim of an alleged crime in the UK to make a complaint to Police in the UK, in which case the CPS may bring charges, not the Government as we aren't a police state.
Virginia Roberts made an allegation in a Florida civil court about the Duke, which has been stricken from the public record. There's no American criminal investigation ongoing as far as I know.
If somebody makes a credible allegation to the Police, then let the Duke face questioning and if necessary his accuser in criminal court.
He should be sent to the US to face questions. If he's not guilty, nothing to worry about right? He's the Prince, son of the Queen. He is holding a public role ,we have a right to know if he's a peado, which seems to be the case but it seems you don't want to the Royal family held accountable.
Stop defending everything British, that's Nigel Farage and Boris's job.![]()
The allegations about Andrew having sex with Virginia Roberts are very strong, and the already infamous “I was at Pizza Express in Woking / I can’t medically sweat / that picture has been photoshopped” alibis that he has offered up in response are laughable.
There is also the highly questionable account we are being asked to believe that Andrew stayed at Jeffrey Epstein’s house for 4 nights in a guest bedroom, during a week-long booze, drugs and sex party, wherein he has already admitted that there was a revolving door of young women, and yet Andrew apparently did not get involved in any of this (did he just sit around twiddling his thumbs and watching American daytime telly?) - apparently he was only there to pinch a few minutes of Epstein’s time, to tell him on a garden walk that their friendship had to come to an end, and yet he stayed for most of the week. Doing what?
Andrew’s stories are full of holes, his body language and attitude are arrogant and ice-cold, and he is just not trustworthy at all. He needs to testify in a legal setting.
Looks like your wish is about to come true:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50633640
Just saw the Jeffrey Epstein documentary on Netflix this weekend.
I don’t want to pass judgements but it is clear as daylight how much Prince Andrew did or did not partake in some of the despicable activities that happened around Epstein
This was most certainly not a suicide.
Epstein must have had many secrets he could have revealed.
He also had strong links with Israel, being an agent.
It's the royal family, people who could be an embarrassment tend to end up dead. Thinking back to the Dodi/Diana saga, although with Epstein seems he could have been sitting on a whole load of incriminating evidence involving influential people all over the world.
It's the royal family, people who could be an embarrassment tend to end up dead. Thinking back to the Dodi/Diana saga, although with Epstein seems he could have been sitting on a whole load of incriminating evidence involving influential people all over the world.
Conspiracy theory. Usually car crashes are just car crashes, especially when the driver has alcohol and cocaine in his system.
Diana herself said she feared for her life and felt they wanted to kill her.
Not sure why you think the Royals are Angels, they aren't even English lol.
Maxwell's arrest could mean real trouble for Prince Andrew. Presumably she will know the truth behind the allegations he had sex with a minor, and it would be too much to expect she might commit suicide in prison as well to prevent giving testimony.
Ghislaine will no doubt never get to court to testify against these evil people, as she is the same.
Prince Andrew should be arrested too, disgrace to this nation. In fact get rid of the Royals now, perfect time.
Ghislaine will no doubt never get to court to testify against these evil people, as she is the same.
Prince Andrew should be arrested too, disgrace to this nation. In fact get rid of the Royals now, perfect time.
Is the same as what?
Ghislaine like Epstein both worked for Mossad, who used them to blackmail powerful people to further the Zionist agenda. Just like Epstein she is in danger of being whacked.
Its upto the US prosecuters to protect her and ensure she testifies against all these high profile peados!
What is your view on Andrew? Why doesnt his mother demand he goes to the US and gives evidence? Royal family could be protecting a serial peado, but all hush hush in the media. There should be mass protests against this, the abuse so many young girls faced by so manh powerful people, leaders ,politicians, royals shows western elitism is has so much clear evil but no lets go bomb some kids in Syria or Libya.