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Pakistan Players' Fitness and Fielding

Mohammad Rizwan's fitness & fielding is a breath of fresh air for Pakistan Team. I hope it inspires other players as well.
Sohaib Maqsood apparently has lost weight as well which is a good thing. Whereas Nasir Jamshedpur is fat again which is a big negative.
Impressive players who need to shed off 5 to 10 kg and get rid of their oozing out bellies are Sarfraz Ahmed & Yasir Shah. Yesterday Sarfraz played a good innings but he was huffing & puffing so much while running down to fitness and stamenna. He is a keeper and he needs to lighten his thighs & tummy area which is quite fat for a keeper.
Yasir needs to flatten his abdomen area. Otherwise he is fine.
Harris Soahil gets unfit too often . He also needs to reduce his weight & also work hard in training. Many believe he gets out in 30's & 40's as his stammena & endurance levels dip down at that stage. For him to make centuries or 70's he needs to build his stammena , endurance & fitness levels. Overall he is our future.
Only weak links in fielding are irfan & Rahat . While irfan cannot improve much Rahat can. Rahat needs to work a lot on his catching technique & practice. Fitness wise he is fine. But only I have one concern why is he bowling slower ? Why is he down on pace ? If we go back to his test debut his average pace in his first 10 overs was 140kph with constantly bowling btw 143 to 147kph. Now that he has improved his swing and accuracy his speed has decreased. Don't know whether it's down to fitness concerns or he isn't using his bowling muscles at their optimum level wrt biomechanics aspects of his bowling action. Irfan has also got some problem with his action in last 2 years. Biomechanics analysis needed and he needs to work on it. Why I say that ? Previously he was bowling in late 140's consistently now he isn't . And whenever he tries to bowl a Yorker he balls a fultoss while previously he had a superb fast Yorker which troubled when the top order batsman while now he can't bowl out a tailender with his yorker. Either it's his stiff back which isn't bending fully or he is not completing his bowling action and delivers the ball bit early.
I keep on repeating this thing that highly advanced biomechanics lab & human movement expert/ biomechanics expert is a must at NCA if we want our pacers to improve day by day. Wahab riaz is a one of example of how he increased his pace at this age or lifter it from 143 to be bowling in late 140's to 150's. While if you see Ryan Harris & Johnson they increased their pace while working with bowling coach , fitness trainer, analyst & most importantly biomechanics expert who give you feed back by testing your action that which bowling muscle is not been used to its ful potential and how to use it optimally.
Lastly , coming back to fitness , fielding and weighs finally Sohail khan. He needs to trust one doctor & one physiotherapist for his rehab and needs to decrease his weight by 10kg. Make his body lean , muscular but flexible & athletic. His body isn't flexible & athletic. If he does it than even at this age he can bowl consistently 145+kph. Sohail if you are reading by mistake than read what Michael Clark did for 8 weeks of his back rehab. An article is there for you to read.

Guys further add your point of views & advice for the players and what needs to be done. Enlighten us all
 
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While I agree, with the OP on most of it, I would also look at the power of inspiration.
Pakistan had senior players who were bad role models in the past: they believed their talent would help them overcome their fitness issues, or that if they lost weight they would lose form or that diving around in the field they might get injured.
In this odi team most of the older and younger guys are fit and diving around. Anwar Ali is good example of an all round athlete. So he is an example for the bowlers to follow.
If we talk about specific players:
Sohaib maqsood: he needs to earn back his team in the place. Found him to be quite slow running singles
Harris Sohail: I think he is going to be a problem and fans will realize it soon: if he doesn't lose weight soon, his career will be cut short by knee injuries.
Rahat Ali is bowling bowling slow only because his line and length is not consistent so he is focusing on bowling in the right spots before bowling faster.
Sohai khan: it's too late for him, he is nearly 30.
 
Sarfaraz needs to get in better shape.

Yasir naturally has a very roundish bulky body. He is in good shape.
 
Pete Rose said:
While I agree, with the OP on most of it, I would also look at the power of inspiration.
Pakistan had senior players who were bad role models in the past: they believed their talent would help them overcome their fitness issues, or that if they lost weight they would lose form or that diving around in the field they might get injured.
In this odi team most of the older and younger guys are fit and diving around. Anwar Ali is good example of an all round athlete. So he is an example for the bowlers to follow.
If we talk about specific players:
Sohaib maqsood: he needs to earn back his team in the place. Found him to be quite slow running singles
Harris Sohail: I think he is going to be a problem and fans will realize it soon: if he doesn't lose weight soon, his career will be cut short by knee injuries.
Rahat Ali is bowling bowling slow only because his line and length is not consistent so he is focusing on bowling in the right spots before bowling faster.
Sohai khan: it's too late for him, he is nearly 30.
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I agree with you on most points . Wrt Sohail's I don't think 30 is a big number. He can improve .
While chasing the ball going towards the boundary sohaib , haris & nasir were the poorest . Especially sohaib & nasir . Let's see whether sojaun improved on this after losing weight or not . And yes he struggled while taking singles & doubles also .
And yes previously there was culture lacking . Now with Rizwan & anwar I hope other players learn a thing or too
 
The real problem starts from domestic cricket , i have not seen so many 'dheele' players in any other domestic cricket and the good performers from domestic are selected for the national team. Why does not pcb have any criteria for the domestic players?

I would like to mention ehsan adil as well , he is too fragile to be a quick bowler.
 
hello everyone....this is a die hard fan of Pakistan cricket feom Nepal....its quite pleasant to see so many good fielders emerging at once...previously we used to have 1 or 2 good fielders..we have lost so many matches bcoz of bad fielding only...Lets hope this team provides good result in a consistent basis...
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
I agree with you on most points . Wrt Sohail's I don't think 30 is a big number. He can improve .
While chasing the ball going towards the boundary sohaib , haris & nasir were the poorest . Especially sohaib & nasir . Let's see whether sojaun improved on this after losing weight or not . And yes he struggled while taking singles & doubles also .
And yes previously there was culture lacking . Now with Rizwan & anwar I hope other players learn a thing or too
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Age is just a number in many aspects of life, but it is extremely important in physical ability, Sohail Khan should physically be in his peak right now physically, so he can only really regress in terms of physical condition, thus IMO his fielding will probably regress rather improve, although if his fielding technique is shabby that can obviously be improved upon.
 
The extreme fitness training camp Moin Khan held didn't work for some reason.

It seems like our players can't go without biryani and rotis. They actually perform worse which is strange.

That experiment failed.

So I would rather have a chubby happy Sarfraz firing on all cylinders. It shouldn't be this way but good nutritional habits for athletes are introduced at an early age like 15/16. We don't have this culture in Pakistan. Thank Inzamam for this.
 
I think problem starts from domestic circuit because of poor diet. It seems There is a lack of knowledge and awareness among young upcoming players about what to eat. This is actually a sub continent mindset that no matter what you eat, you wont become unfit if you live an active life. This is wrong. You cant compete with what you eat. Its absolutely neccessary that along with all the exercises a good diet is maintained. Its only when these players come to play international cricket , they notice how far behind they are in terms of fitness. Many of the recently selected batsmen from pakistan like haris, sohaib, sarfaraz, mukhtar, sharjeel and even ahmad shehzad from 2-3 years ago were all carrying a pot belly.
Hope something is done about it at the domestic level itself. Maybe more awareness programs.
 
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hello everyone....this is a die hard fan of Pakistan cricket feom Nepal....its quite pleasant to see so many good fielders emerging at once...previously we used to have 1 or 2 good fielders..we have lost so many matches bcoz of bad fielding only...Lets hope this team provides good result in a consistent basis...
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Yes its a breath of fresh air. It has to do with ghe introduction of younger players in the team.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
The extreme fitness training camp Moin Khan held didn't work for some reason.

It seems like our players can't go without biryani and rotis. They actually perform worse which is strange.

That experiment failed.

So I would rather have a chubby happy Sarfraz firing on all cylinders. It shouldn't be this way but good nutritional habits for athletes are introduced at an early age like 15/16. We don't have this culture in Pakistan. Thank Inzamam for this.
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Anything extreme does not work. If you do anything extreme the likelihood is that you will burn yourself out since you are not used to that kind of physical exertion. Its the same thing with crash diets. These guys need to build their stamina and strength gradually and they need to change their lifestyle overall. It will take time to for the thinking to change.
 
Go slow and steady.

Sarfaraz has gained weight but overall, this team kind of looks fitter than before.
 
The Current Pakistan Side is our best ever fielding side??

The Fielding has been unbelievable by Pakistani standard's ..... We have some brilliant fielders with likes of anwar rizwan yasir and babar ...only rahat and irfan are weak fielder's and one of them would be replaced by wahab who himself is a brilliant fielder....do u think that this is the best ever fielding side we ever had??

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when Julien Fountain was in charge we were pretty good too.

Id say better as it was over a period of time and more importantly we saw massive imporvements in individual players. Here its mostly a new crop which is fairly athletic to begin with
 
They need to get rid of these training camps first of all.

All our batsmen have got negative affects from these camps and they don't ever work for bowlers either.

Second of all, some of them need to get rid of fat which you mentioned. Yasir Shah is fine for now, but I think Sarfraz and Haris need to work on their fitness.

In-terms of Rahat Ali, he's experiencing "The Junaid Virus". His pace has gone down due to injury but he seems to be more accurate with the ball recently.

Also, about fielding we definitely have improved. Mohammed Rizwan, Ahmed Shehzad, Anwar Ali and Umar Akmal are all players who can take outstanding catches. Rahat Ali and Irfan need to improve though.

A-lot of youngsters do not know what to have in their diet and what they need to work on when it comes to fitness. Someway we need to get awareness around.
 
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Good fielders like Anwar, Rizwan, Malik etc are already good and fit, nothing much to do with coach.

Though Waqar is not fielding coach, but I am ready to give credit to Waqar IFFF Ahmed Shahzad's flying dives able to stop ball instead ball under passing.
 
I suggest we don't count our fielders before they catch.
 
I think Rizwan and Anwar have heavily lifted the spirits of the entire team, barring Irfan maybe. He's a giant and there's nothing you can do really to improve his fielding, except just keep him fit.
 
BleedGreen said:
I think Rizwan and Anwar have heavily lifted the spirits of the entire team, barring Irfan maybe. He's a giant and there's nothing you can do really to improve his fielding, except just keep him fit.
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Irfan offers us a unique dimension on the field. I remember him plucking out the ball from the air which no one shorter than him would have been able to reach. As long as you don't make him run after the ball, he won't embarrass himself.
 
This is a good primer on whether we should train our in-fielders as wicket keepers.
 
Fielding has got a lot better, part of it is down to the fact we have a younger squad as a whole. We no longer have the Razzaqs, Naveds and Yousufs. Also our senior players have set a good example like Younis and Misbah in Tests, and Malik in ODIs. The next step is to improve general fitness. The amount of pot bellies and out of shape cricketers during the T20 Super Eight was ridiculous. Multan Tigers should've been renamed Multan Hippos, one of their spinners resembled a sumo wrestler. At grassroots there must be emphasis on fitness.

Education is important, PCB spends thousands on backroom staff including nutritionists so there's no excuse really. Everyone these days has access to internet and mobile phone, you have apps for fitness tips and so on. So I don't buy the excuse that players don't have the resources or information.

The key thing is mindset. In sub-continent, pretty much every lunch and dinner is a couple of rotis of some sort. Asian diets aren't very conducive to elite level athleticism and you can't out-train a crappy diet. Improve diet and those pot bellies will be a thing of the past.

Also with exercise, it has to be a routine. Players must have an exercise regime during off season when there is no cricket to play. But it also has to be fun and something you want to do - running endless laps around a cricket ground gets very tiresome. Army style drills aren't for everyone which seems is what we do in the pre-series training camps. You have to enjoy exercise.
 
Once you bring youngsters in, this is what happens. Where are all the guys who said Pakistan youngsters are all unfit etc? Terrible judgement. We have one of the best fielding units now.
 
Rahat and Irfan are the only weak links. Other then them two, rest are fantastic.

I wish Shaan will also be able to play one day cricket sometime to show you how magnificent of a fielder he is. On the Anwar Ali/Rizwan level.
 
Sorry but its not the Rotis perse that give you pot bellies. Its what youe at with them. Eating healthy wholemeal rotis is actually good for you as they provide fibre. Now if you slather ghee or butter on them then thats another story. Also curry itself can be healthy as long as it isnt cooked a certain way e.g. in "desi Kyo" etc. Eating parathas and chai for breakfast should be a no and so forth.

coming back to a player like Haris sohail. He's not the future of pakistan. Players like Rizwan are. Haris looks unfit and unable to crack on and hit big scores. His fitness is very poor and he needs to improve in that area.

Finally the domestic T20 tournie I saw recently was a disgrace. the amount of supposedly "young" players in their supposed 20's looked like uncles!! the pot bellies were massive and most looked beyond unfit.
 
Bump

Thread is from 2014 so it means the trend had started a year ago. The inclusion of rizwan, anwar, babar, yasir, malik etc has only made it better.

Mods you can merge it if yiu want with other threads.
 
Haris Sohail need to improve his fitness big time. I really don't see how people see him as a replacement for Misbah in tests. Misbah is one of our most fittest players and Haris is one of our least fittest and he is meant to replace Misbah lol. I rather have someone like Rizwan replace Misbah. Players like Rizwan are a breath of fresh air. Not only is he a good batsman but he is also a great fielder. We need more of these kind of players in the team if we are to consistently compete with the best teams in the world. I've lost count of the number of matches we have lost due to poor fielding. Having few players like him in the team can make a big difference.
 
The_KING said:
Haris Sohail need to improve his fitness big time. I really don't see how people see him as a replacement for Misbah in tests. Misbah is one of our most fittest players and Haris is one of our least fittest and he is meant to replace Misbah lol. I rather have someone like Rizwan replace Misbah. Players like Rizwan are a breath of fresh air. Not only is he a good batsman but he is also a great fielder. We need more of these kind of players in the team if we are to consistently compete with the best teams in the world. I've lost count of the number of matches we have lost due to poor fielding. Having few players like him in the team can make a big difference.
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Haris is unfit but he doesn't drop catches. In tests your catching is the most important thing as a fielder. Running after the ball quickly isnt required all the time. Plus he averages more than misbah is domestic and will probably be more successful test batsman than misbah ever was.
 
Madplayer said:
Haris is unfit but he doesn't drop catches. In tests your catching is the most important thing as a fielder. Running after the ball quickly isnt required all the time. Plus he averages more than misbah is domestic and will probably be more successful test batsman than misbah ever was.
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I don't see Haris being more successful than Misbah with his current fitness. Domestics in a completely different ball game to the international cricket. Haris doesn't have it in him to play long innings. He will most likely get tired after facing 50-60 balls. Rizwan is
more likely to do better than Misbah. I think he should be replacement for Misbah, not Haris.
 
The_KING said:
I don't see Haris being more successful than Misbah with his current fitness. Domestics in a completely different ball game to the international cricket. Haris doesn't have it in him to play long innings. He will most likely get tired after facing 50-60 balls. Rizwan is
more likely to do better than Misbah. I think he should be replacement for Misbah, not Haris.
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But haris has played long innings in domestic cricket. In ODIs you get tired due to having to run quick singles and play more attacking shots. While in tests its more about your technique so he wont get tired. I agree though, he has to work on his fitness no question about that. Because it will prolong his career as well.
 
3rd ODI, in my opinion, witnessed one of the greatest catches of Pakistan cricket. Anwar Ali's was simply breath taking.
 
Pete Rose said:
While I agree, with the OP on most of it, I would also look at the power of inspiration.
Pakistan had senior players who were bad role models in the past: they believed their talent would help them overcome their fitness issues, or that if they lost weight they would lose form or that diving around in the field they might get injured.
In this odi team most of the older and younger guys are fit and diving around. Anwar Ali is good example of an all round athlete. So he is an example for the bowlers to follow.
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Absolutely - it's why I pointed out that the more senior players are setting good examples. Hafeez and Malik have always worked hard in the field and are generally sure catchers. Same with Azhar Ali.

But good fielding raises everyone's intensity and the spirt of the team. It's not just that good fielding teams same 20-30 runs. It's that good fielding requires strong intensity and effort, and that carries over into other aspects of play.
 
IPL or T20 Effect

Because of Internet Broadcasting and IPL/T20 leagues now cricket fans see lot more international cricket. Youngsters get inspired by not just local or national fans but international as well. You can hardly find a cricket fan who will skip AB's batting. The power of Johnson's spell that inspired our own Wahab.

IPL has special effect in the minds of young cricketers, they just don't want to play for Pakistan but in other T20 leagues as they develop. This means fielding and fitness is as important as primary skill. They are competing with international players. You have to be good athlete to survive in International T20 market. In T20 fielding is even more important than it was in ODI, where as in test cricket only fielding that really matter is in slips

This also means lot of T20 cricket being played locally in Pakistan as well, which was not the case even 4 years ago. T20 cricket even in at national level has improved fielding a lot. In four day FC cricket you hardly have to dive or chase the ball. Where as in T20 you have to slide, dive and take catches in almost every match, that build confidence and fitness.

The next generation understand the importance of it, Rizwan, Wahab, Yasir, Anwar all are good fielders, which was not the case just few years ago. The likes of Rahat, Junaid, Sohail were/are still old school mentality. They would have hard time surviving in the new world order. They will get injured more as well, because of not being athletic.
 
I will say, while Irfan is a complete liability in the field, the one thing I notice about him is that despite his body size he really does give it maximum effort. Watch him in the field. He's terrible, but he tries hard! :P I would say effort/body language wise the biggest culprit is Rahat Ali, and why I think he's a perfect Test bowler but has to be eventually replaced in ODIs unless he can sort himself out.
 
Indeed an unexpected and pleasantly surprising rise in our fielding standards. Much credit to Waqar for giving fitness levels much priority! The fittest are having a ball in the field! Which is great to see! Rizwan, Anwar, Babar, Shehzad, Immad, Malik, Yasir etc all together make an exciting fielding unit! And the results are before us in the previous 3 ODIs. The beginning of a new and an exciting era for Pakistan.
 
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Fielding is more about culture and personal desire to be good at it. Teams like SA do have fielding culture and they expect their players to be better fielders by default. Secondly, fielding is never a criteria for selection in Pakistan team, so domestic players hardly ever take it seriously.

But I would like to mention one thing.

Weight loss is not always directly proportional to performance. During 2002/03, Inzi was under criticism for being over-weight, and he start focusing on it and losing weight. His form dipped alarmingly and he produced only 18 runs in 6 matches of 2003 WC. He stopped making an effort to lose weight, came back in the side and started scoring runs again.

So the thing is, every human being has a different body and all of them can't be treated in the same way. Losing weight means, that a person is using more calories than he is taking. That could risk weakness and hence performance efficiency.

I agree the with the gist of your post though. Players should have better fitness levels. Sarfraz, Yasir, Haris and Nasir all look out of shape and their bodies could afford some work-out.


Next point is about pace of fast bowlers and bio-mechanics of their actions.

About Johnson, I think it was Lillee who worked with him. To be honest, their are just minor fixes in his action. the height of bowling arm, the usage of non-bowling arm during action and his follow through. That have helped him but the main difference in him was the way he was used by the captain.

Clarke used him in short spells and he showed his effectiveness. When Clarke got injured, Smith used him as a work-horse and he lost his potency. Clarke is now back as a captain, and we all saw his performance against England.

One of the reasons, why our bowlers lose pace is that when they start taking wickets, captains use them as a work horse, while they were actually mean to be used as a race horse.

As for bio-mechanics specialist, yes, it could help our pacers sort out their actions, but we need to appoint right man for the job.

For example, Aaqib Javed is qualified coach for that stuff. But what he does, is that in trying to improve bowlers' actions to make them injury free, he make them lost their swing and effectiveness. He did that we so many bowlers, Shahid Nazir, Gul, Rana Naved to name a few.

So we should be careful if we are going to hire any specialist (which is unlikely anyways).
 
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hello everyone....this is a die hard fan of Pakistan cricket feom Nepal....its quite pleasant to see so many good fielders emerging at once...previously we used to have 1 or 2 good fielders..we have lost so many matches bcoz of bad fielding only...Lets hope this team provides good result in a consistent basis...
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Anwar Ali's catch (3rd ODI v SL)

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Remember that one.

He had a back strain after Aus match and was unsure to play next two games. He played both, takes a similar catch against SA as well (was off Kallis I think). He slided after taking his catches unlike Anwar, who rolled after taking his.
 
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Young players are hungry to cement their position in the team by performing & they are giving more than 100% in the field too.
 
To me, Anwar's catch is better than U.Akmal's take. It's more challenging.
 
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It's hard to compare catches but his level of swag in the celebration AFTER the catch was the best.
 
Looking all this, seems like Umar Akmal was the first Pakistani to take catch like this. We all know diving front and taking low catch is extremely difficult and risky. You not only can damage your finger by misjudging or ball can go for boundary if you miss it. Many low level fielders don't take chances and just block it.
 
Bullet Drive said:
I think its safe to say we are the best fielding side in the world right now.
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:D. We are a lot better though now, some quality fielders in the side. Something to be happy about :). In general way to much pessimism, so hopefully increase fielding standards will get lighten things up on here a bit :).
 
once shahzaad took this type of catch against west indies. i think that was sammy catch. After that catch pakistan came back to game and in last over wahab gave 15 runs and umer akmal missed easy run out on last ball.
 
Stewie said:
Aaqib Javed took a stunning catch like this one in the 92 world cup final against England and during those days fielding like this was completely unheard of and unseen from a Pakistani cricketer.
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Similar to what Jadeja took to dismiss Border in the same world cup
 
Rizwan has been a breath of fresh air. Unbelievable catch. Good take by Shehzad as well.
 
Rizwan dropped a relatively easy one today lol. I am sure its a one off.
 
Fielding and not the batting has got me more optimistic.

Yes the batting has been a vast improvement on what's we've come to see over the last few years.

In fact the batting has been crucial in the way we've chased and set targets recently, but I feel the fielding has to get some mention too.

I've been critical of Anwar Ali's inclusion in the side for a number of matches but I've never had a doubt about his fielding (no,seriously :) )

I think also a brief mention to Mohammed Rizwan too. His fielding over the last couple of games have been a thrill to witness and something us, Pakistan fans, are not used to.

For all his criticism I thought Ahmed Shehzad was also had a great time in the field and back to how he was fielding when he first started his career.

We obviously still have our passengers in the side, and I'm not going to bore you with their names as we all know who they are. But this is a positive step and something I hope we can see in future games too.

Well Done Azhar, Waqar and G. Flower.
It's good to see
 
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Yes fielding has been good with Shezy and Rizwan. Tihs is the best fielding side Pakistan has ever had
 
I think the best way to improve your side's fielding is not to waste time on poor fielders and try to make them better but to only select good fielders from domestic. Make it an official selection criteria so that the problem is fixed before becoming a headache for team management.
 
Executioner said:
Yes fielding has been good with Shezy and Rizwan. Tihs is the best fielding side Pakistan has ever had
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Very true, I guess it's always going to be difficult to replicate the same skills in future games, but we can all hope.
 
DrSchultz said:
I think the best way to improve your side's fielding is not to waste time on poor fielders and try to make them better but to only select good fielders from domestic. Make it an official selection criteria so that the problem is fixed before becoming a headache for team management.
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Been saying that for some time. It has to be a criteria in our domestic cricket to have not just decent fielders, but those that can change a game when needed.

I've had enough of bungling and awful catchers. They know who they are &#55357;&#56864;
 
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