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Kiri

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I'm a spinner my self. Left arm Orthodox. Are you a spinner? Then, what type? Feel free to discuss tips and ideas about the different types of spin bowling. I could use with some tips as I play for a club in my local county division. I can't seem to get much pace on the ball even though I am accurate and can get spin.
 
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actually I'm a medium pace bowler.. though I bowl spins in our local ground.. fast bowling not allowed there lol, that's a small ground...
I can spin both way but not much control in leg spin, often its ended with short pitch delivery.. but on rhythm my legspin is too good..
but my main weapon is vary pace and occasional arm balls...
 
I'm also left arm orthodox and although I can spin ball this season I have been struggling with flighting the ball, simply just won't come out right.

Gonna hit the nets with the pro and see what is going wrong.

Also any drills that will help increase durability in spin finger after 6-7 overs I can't impart as much spin although I haven't bowled as much as I wanted pre season so guessing just bowling a lot will help with this.
 
I'm a spinner my self. Left arm Orthodox. Are you a spinner? Then, what type? Feel free to discuss tips and ideas about the different types of spin bowling. I could use with some tips as I play for a club in my local county division. I can't seem to get much pace on the ball even though I am accurate and can get spin.

Try to get your bowling arm higher when releasing ball that helps me with pace but my problem is the complete opposite to yours.

Unlike a few in our league I don't want to simply loop ball up and let it drop I want to send it up with revs on it so can get something in air also before it pitches but haven't managed to get it right this season at all, not gone for loads of runs etc but haven't taken as many wickets as I would have hoped but with weather drying hopefully pitches will start becoming a little more responsive to spin too.
 
I'm also left arm orthodox and although I can spin ball this season I have been struggling with flighting the ball, simply just won't come out right.

Gonna hit the nets with the pro and see what is going wrong.

Also any drills that will help increase durability in spin finger after 6-7 overs I can't impart as much spin although I haven't bowled as much as I wanted pre season so guessing just bowling a lot will help with this.

If the ball isn't coming out right. I believe it takes practice. I had the same problem as you but kept practicing and practicing. Any opportunity I had, I'd practice bowling. At the park. At my club's training sessions. In my house. Get a friend and do bowl and bat sessions. Bowl to him and make him just play defensively. This will help.

One problem I had it that I wasn't ripping the ball very much and didn't follow through. Make sure you have a good follow through because it gives you extra momentum.
 
I was just a batsman but now my off spin is getting recognition. I was able to ball off break and arm ball but now I also developed a ball going other way not exactly dosra but able to roll the fingers other way bit like carom-ball and able to get a lot of spin and normally ball is accurate flight is a bit more but good enough to get local club cricketers here.
 
Another issue is my finger gets sore sometimes very sore and this is why I wasnt able to bowl as much in the nets, I'm hoping it will stay manageable this season.

Bowled 9 overs in cup game yesterday and it doesn't feel too bad tbh so fingers crossed.

It was coming out much better last season and right now I think my hand is coming too much over the ball but hopefully will correct it somehow.


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Another issue is my finger gets sore sometimes very sore and this is why I wasnt able to bowl as much in the nets, I'm hoping it will stay manageable this season.

Bowled 9 overs in cup game yesterday and it doesn't feel too bad tbh so fingers crossed.

It was coming out much better last season and right now I think my hand is coming too much over the ball but hopefully will correct it somehow.


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Hmm, if you feel that your fingers are sore then there might be something wrong with the way you grip the ball. Make sure you don't grip it too tight.
 
I don't have massive fingers and generally the thought is to grip and turn as hard as possible.


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I don't have massive fingers and generally the thought is to grip and turn as hard as possible.


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Make sure you grip the ball with your fingers as far wide apart as possible. This will help generate maximum revs on the ball. If your fingers are hurting. Don't worry. They will hurt less with the more practice you do. The more you bowl, the more you'll get use to it. Then your fingers and body will adapt. It just takes time.
 
Yep that's the issue as I have smallish fingers I have to stretch them that much more.

Plus my fitness isn't upto scratch either which shows as further into a spell I occasionally don't complete my action (pivot) sometimes leading me to bowl the odd one down leg, hoping to resolve these two issues and than my only concern will be taking wickets.


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What I do everytime before running into bowl. This will help you most of the time to get what you want.

1. Clear your head.
2. Picture what you're going to do
3. Stare at the position at where you want to bowl
4. Run up - pivot, rip and follow through

Don't take your eyes off the target. Concentration and clear mind is key.

Doesn't matter if you have small fingers. If you're still growing, it will become easier for you.
 
As a left arm spinner, always be bowling around 4th stump or off stump. Never middle or leg. If you have a leg side field, it will be easier for them to hit across if you pitch it right on leg or middle-leg.

Also, look for variation in pace. Sometime I slip in a good yorker. You could try bowling a seam delivery with same action you use to bowl spin and aim at his toes. The ball should drift in.
 
Good advice and in theory I know the same but as you know as well as I do theory is just so much easier than the actual practice.

I'm not growing though LOL I'm 28 now and funnily enough I'm just over 6ft but smallish hands in relative terms.

I do occasionally slip onto leg stump when I try getting a little too greedy. Funny thing is I pitch 4th stump line and ball turns (pitch permitting) try to go to middle and leg and it just goes straight.

I think this has a lot to do with your follow through to as when you bowl leg you don't fully pivot hence no turn.




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When I'm bowling really well I get some drift too which really does help as you can go through your pivot aiming for off stump the ball will than drift onto middle and leg but as you have completed your action already the ball will get a lot more purchase as its still rotating nicely but when you fire it in at leg stump without drift the angle takes over IMO at least that is my theory don't know what you're take on it is.


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In regards to variation I haven't tried too much except for flight etc haven't experimented with the carrom ball as I believe the level we play if we bowl 6 balls exactly where we want more often than not you will get you're rewards.

It makes me laugh when some of these boys can't land their stock ball twice in a row yet think its essential they can bowl the one going the other way.

Another thing I haven't managed to exploit to my advantage is when I bowl seam up (occasionally in nets when finger isn't doing too well) my ball naturally comes into the right hander but this is when I bowl over the wicket and generally with spin I like to bowl around as it gives me more chances of dismissal so if I can somehow bowl around the wicket with seam up this would be a perfect variation as in essence it is a ball going the other way with the added advantage of it being quicker and different to stock ball.


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In regards to variation I haven't tried too much except for flight etc haven't experimented with the carrom ball as I believe the level we play if we bowl 6 balls exactly where we want more often than not you will get you're rewards.

It makes me laugh when some of these boys can't land their stock ball twice in a row yet think its essential they can bowl the one going the other way.

Another thing I haven't managed to exploit to my advantage is when I bowl seam up (occasionally in nets when finger isn't doing too well) my ball naturally comes into the right hander but this is when I bowl over the wicket and generally with spin I like to bowl around as it gives me more chances of dismissal so if I can somehow bowl around the wicket with seam up this would be a perfect variation as in essence it is a ball going the other way with the added advantage of it being quicker and different to stock ball.


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No need to experiment at all I guess. Just bowl off stump. You would be tempted to bowl at the pads but that should only be a rare ball. One every 6 balls will do.
 
Let's get this thing going again. Any problems you guys have?
 
What I do everytime before running into bowl. This will help you most of the time to get what you want.

1. Clear your head.
2. Picture what you're going to do
3. Stare at the position at where you want to bowl
4. Run up - pivot, rip and follow through

Don't take your eyes off the target. Concentration and clear mind is key.

Doesn't matter if you have small fingers. If you're still growing, it will become easier for you.

This is where one question arises, if you are staring at the spot where you want to land(like Richie Benaud suggests) won't your opponent find out where you will land the ball by just looking at your eye ?
 
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This is where one question arises, if you are staring at the spot where you want to land(like Richie Benaud suggests) won't your opponent find out where you will land the ball by just looking at your eye ?
Not really because you won't necessarily be able to tell where exactly he will be bowling from 22 yards.
 
This is where one question arises, if you are staring at the spot where you want to land(like Richie Benaud suggests) won't your opponent find out where you will land the ball by just looking at your eye ?

I never understand this, as a spinner you are almost always looking to land it on a good length.
 
I would be perfectly happy if batsman knew I would be pitching it on a 10 pence everytime I bowled.
 
I never understand this, as a spinner you are almost always looking to land it on a good length.

Yess, but still gotta land the ball in the right LINE. I'm a leg break bowler, my line depends on how big or small i want to turn the ball when it lands, along with straighter one, googly, topsin and etc.
 
I am a left arm orthodox spinner. I currently play in Toronto & District Cricket Association in 4th division.

I cannot spin the ball much; I primarily rely on flight and quicker one. I am trying to learn more variations.

Can a left arm orthodox spinner bowl doosra? Where can I learn doosra?
 
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I am a left arm orthodox spinner. I currently play in Toronto & District Cricket Association in 4th division.

I cannot spin the ball much; I primarily rely on flight and quicker one. I am trying to learn more variations.

Can a left arm orthodox spinner bowl doosra? Where can I learn doosra?

There is the armball, it is a legal delivery. Herath picks up most of his wicket with the arm ball. Just google or youtube it bro. Turning and Spin bowling is somewhat of a gift, some people have it some don't. You can't teach someone how to turn big. However, you are a "spin bowler" not "turning bowler". You just need to turn the ball about 6 inches, rest will be your line, length and your accuracy. Change the position of how you hold the ball, play around with your tennis ball, soft sponge ball or any kind at your home. Just play with your tennis ball in your room, once you figure out your variations, try it in the nets before next season and try to perfect it. If you love spin bowling, try your best to understand how spin bowling works, scientifically(google it) and then you can fool around with it. Im pretty much a useless batsmen. My armory is my spin bowling(leg break).
 
I am a left arm orthodox spinner. I currently play in Toronto & District Cricket Association in 4th division.

I cannot spin the ball much; I primarily rely on flight and quicker one. I am trying to learn more variations.

Can a left arm orthodox spinner bowl doosra? Where can I learn doosra?

Thivaakar got it spot on. I'm also a left arm orthodox like you. What I do to bowl the arm ball is when I come around the wicket, I go up to the left white mark as far as possible, then release from there. I use that angle to drift the ball into the pads. For this ball, I grip the ball like a pace bowler.

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Leg break bowlers have more variations than Offbreak, but leg break is typically hard to master. Mastering leg break bowling can take you from a club cricketer to international cricketer just like that. Let me explain some.

Leg break(Big turn, Medium turn, Small turn)


Big Turn- Seem faces the point or backward point, when bowled, it will have maximum drift towards the opposite direction of your intended direction, when the ball lands it will turn big. It will however have NO DIP.

Seem Direction : Point or Backward Point
Drift : Maximum towards the opposite of intended direction
Dip: None
Bounce : Less than Medium, Small legbreak, bit more than Slider and Flipper
Length : Medium Good to Full Good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbfPdXAIPI

Medium Turn- Seem faces 2nd, 3rd slip or Gully, when bowled, it will have some of drift, some of dip and some turn
i.e(Warne' Gatting ball)

Seem Direction : Gully, 2nd, or 3rd slip
Drift : decent drift
Dip: decent dip
Bounce : More than big leg break,flipper, slider, less than Top Spin, Small Turn
Length : Good Length


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeLn8sEAKfE

Small Turn - Seem faces 1st slip or slightly towards offstump or little but outside of offstump, it will have little to no drift, lot of dip, it will land a bit shorter, when landed it will hurry on to the stump and it will have higher bounce than Big turn.

Seem Direction : 1st slip, Off stump, or little bit outside of Offstump
Drift : little to none
Dip: Medium to High
Bounce : More than big legbreak, medium legbreak, Flipper, Slider, less than Topspin
Length : Good Length to Short Good Length

First ball to Ranatunga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH0edm4vL40

Seem direction determines how much DIP, DRIFT and Bounce you get.

Higher the angle of the seam = More drift
Lesser the angle of the seam = More dip
Straighter the seam = Higher the bounce


Top Spin

Seem Direction : is at 90 degrees angle/up straight.
Drift : None
Dip : Maximum
Bounce: Higher than every other delivery
Length : Good Short length.

Will land shorter than expected, will bounce very quickly higher than normal and hurry on to you.

Googly

Seem : Straight, turned towards middle, or Legstump
Drift : Little to decent depends on where the seem is pointing towards(Higher the angle of the seam = More drift)
Dip : Little to decent depends on where the seem is pointing towards(Lesser the angle of the seam = More dip
Bounce : Little to decent depends on where the seem is pointing towards (Straighter the seam = higher the bounce)
Length : Good Full to Good Short

Unlike other deliveries, Googly is the only delivery that is bowled from back of the hand/palm


Flipper/Slider(Both are intended to do the same)

Seem : Straight(90 degrees) for Slider and Horizontal (0 degrees) for Flipper
Drift : NONE
Dip : NONE
Bounce : Lower than every other delivery
Length : Good full to Full
Wrist Position : Straight, facing the batsmen for Slider and Side of wrist facing the batsmen for Flipper

Unlike other deliveries, Slider and Flipper are spun with backward direction(Clock wise), opposed to other deliveries where the balls are spun in forward direction(Anti Clock wise). Slider is bowled with help of all 4 fingers, except pinky and it is pushed out from front of the hand. Need tighter grips, 4th finger still does major portion of the work. Flipper is bowled with help of thumb and 3rd finger(not the regular spinning finger). It is "snapped" out rather than pushed out like slider. You are basically snapping the ball out of your hand, like how you snap your fingers. Flipper comes a bit faster than a slider. Strong shoulders are required to bowl the Flipper, it is advised not to bowl Flipper if you don't have strong shoulders. Warne stopped bowling Flipper after 1996, adopted Slider. Slider is safer than Flipper.

If you can master all of this, bowl them accurately and you can spin about 6 to 8 inches on regular basis. You are wasting your time, should be playing International Cricket.
 
Bump. Anyone need help or share their experience with spin bowling? [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]
 
Bump. Anyone need help or share their experience with spin bowling? [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]

There are only few guys that actually play club cricket in this forum, that is also active very much. I was advised not to watch too much cricket if I wanted to get good at cricket, have you received anything like that ?
 
There are only few guys that actually play club cricket in this forum, that is also active very much. I was advised not to watch too much cricket if I wanted to get good at cricket, have you received anything like that ?

I don't think so but I understand where it comes from. Too much of cricket on TV could mean we try to copy or emulate real life players and that could affect our technique.
 
I don't think so but I understand where it comes from. Too much of cricket on TV could mean we try to copy or emulate real life players and that could affect our technique.

I think it is due to inferiority complex one might get after watching these big guns play on tv. The good cricketers I know watch matches without checking stats, they always know the big guns from every team and that is about it. In Sachin and KP's autobiography, there is lot of "playing cricket" and very few "watching cricket". Both of them were very busy playing sports/cricket and etc. I was told my former team mate that "if you watch too much cricket, you are never going to be anything". Every time I watch cricket, I dont feel the need to play with my cricket balls at home, when there are no matches, I'm always spinning them in my hand and etc for couple of hours a day at least. Im going to try reducing my cricket viewing time drastically after this WC and see what happens.
 
[MENTION=129939]wrongun[/MENTION] After seeing your username, I can't let you of the hook without questioning your knowledge on Spin bowling :p.
 
No, I'm a fan of spin bowling but was never able to master it myself.
 
No, I'm a fan of spin bowling but was never able to master it myself.

Darn it, how far did you get with your spin bowling ? Backyard?School ? Club ? What is your favourite kind of spin bowling ?
 
Darn it, how far did you get with your spin bowling ? Backyard?School ? Club ? What is your favourite kind of spin bowling ?

I played around bowling leggies in the nets and backyard type games sometimes just for fun but I never really had control- I had a slider which was pretty reliable but my leggy might hit the back net on the full or be a half tracker too often and my wrongun got good bounce but rarely turned and was also wild.

In club games I was an allrounder. I opened the batting and bowled seamers, first change. Had decent pace but nothing special, bowled inswingers and leg cutters for a surprise ball (my action made it hard for outswing).
 
Bump, amy peeps got some general tips for spin bowling? Specifically left arm orthodox.

I've worked really hard this season and now made it into my 1st team as a main stay spinner who can get them wickets. This is a massive improvement for me given last year I was hardly used because I wasn't consistent enough.

The point where I'm at is I can bowl with accuracy, my line and length will generally be wayward in the first 3 balls of my spell but it hardly affects my overall performance. I've recently increased my pace so I'm now firing it in at around 35-50 mph where as I was just bowling 30-35mph deliveries that batsman would find awkward to play given I still landed it on a good line and length.

Thing is, I still find that I'm not a complete spinner yet. Things I need to work on are variation and match awareness [so making the adjustments to conditions and the team]. For example, last week, I was bowling a very fullish length, but the batsman were coming down the track and making them into full tosses and driving for boundaries. I learnt that I needed to bowl just a touch shorter but I made the adjustment to late and ended up bowling just a small number of full tosses.

Only reward for pitching it up was I got two wickets bowled and stumped, but got figures of 31-2 after 4 overs.
 
This was a 50 over game to be precise....any tips guys?
[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] [MENTION=129939]wrongun[/MENTION]
 
This was a 50 over game to be precise....any tips guys?
[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] [MENTION=129939]wrongun[/MENTION]

I slacked of big time this season, 2 rained out games, missed one to due to a party and was dropped for another game. Im seriously considering getting a coach, its about $120/month but I'll can get a really good coach and create some links. Last season our team played in a competitive league in some what of a competitive divison. This year we are playing in a league with 2 divisions. My team mares are in their late 20s and early 30s, they are slacking and so I am. I'm still bowling much slower, my variations aren't accurate, i get away with my ability turn. Last year batsmen used to come down and hit me since the batsmen had all the time in the world to come down and hit me. Of course I wasted the off season without practicing my physic, I was advised to improve my strength and conditioning which I did not.

Basically, you plan what delivery you are going to bowl and then execute, you can't change your plan just before releasing. You need a slider/flipper like delivery to keep the batsmen from coming down. You just need to bowl it once or twice and forever that delivery will be stuck in back of his head. But you cannot just fire it in with your arms and shoulders like Jadeja, you need to zippit with your fingers or else the batsmen will pick it up as a quicker ball as you are firing it in and then there is no point of bowling a quicker ball but any quicker ball is better than a no quicker ball. Match awareness comes from reading cricket/bowling related books that helps you UNDERSTAND. I used to be a dummy when it came to field setting, but now I set my own fielding. Fingers spinners vary the pace of their spin(stock ball) compared to wrist spinners. You might want to try doing that but make sure you get your basic right.

How did you improve your speed ?
 
Best thread on PP right here. Haven't played cricket in eight or nine years but bad knees mean that footy, hockey and American football might be too much for me now and I'll have to come out of cricket retirement.

Used to bowl off spin with the odd faster one and occasional legbreak but it never satisfied me because as we all know, off-spin doesn't really count as bowling. Sorry Kiri!

With that in mind I'm going to come back as a leggie, which will involve all kinds of shoulder contortions and yoga to get the flexibility to bowl a decent googly. Was pleased to see that I could still turn the ball after a decade away and a flipper seems pretty simple to get the hang of. My speed will hopefully get better because I'm still strengthening my knee after a small op so I'm not fully driving through in my action.
 
How you doing guys, changed clubs this season as last season was rubbish as the skipper wouldn't give me a bowl.

So far have had a decent start with ball have taken around 11-12 wickets in around 5 games that i played and economy is probably around 3, have had an absolute nightmare with bat but got around 23 in last game so hopefully things will only improve there.

In regards to spin bowling my length and control is very good however a couple of things I need to work on is getting the ball up and down with some decent revs rather than just lobbing it up there and the issue with this is mainly my jump or lack of before i release ball however pretty happy so far with bowling and hoping to finish with atleast 30-35 wickets for season.
 
I'm also left arm orthodox and although I can spin ball this season I have been struggling with flighting the ball, simply just won't come out right.

Gonna hit the nets with the pro and see what is going wrong.

Also any drills that will help increase durability in spin finger after 6-7 overs I can't impart as much spin although I haven't bowled as much as I wanted pre season so guessing just bowling a lot will help with this.

Old Aussie spinners used to say "If you ain't bleeding, you ain't working". Your skin needs to get used to minor damages at first. Im a leggie, my side of the spinning finger feels like a rough rubber, it used to hurt often after the practice now it doesn't. You just have to get used to it. I want to take this summer as an advantage and bowl often but if i practice 3 days in a row, they hurts like hell.
 
How you doing guys, changed clubs this season as last season was rubbish as the skipper wouldn't give me a bowl.

So far have had a decent start with ball have taken around 11-12 wickets in around 5 games that i played and economy is probably around 3, have had an absolute nightmare with bat but got around 23 in last game so hopefully things will only improve there.

In regards to spin bowling my length and control is very good however a couple of things I need to work on is getting the ball up and down with some decent revs rather than just lobbing it up there and the issue with this is mainly my jump or lack of before i release ball however pretty happy so far with bowling and hoping to finish with atleast 30-35 wickets for season.

What do you bowl and where do you play ?
 
I myself am a fast bowler but before I used to bowl spin. I still bowl spin when playing with my friend and I noticed my spin is gone. I am doing everything the same, at least I think so. Except, it was an old ball that we played with, I used to bowl with a newer ball. Is that the reason?
 
Bump, amy peeps got some general tips for spin bowling? Specifically left arm orthodox.

I've worked really hard this season and now made it into my 1st team as a main stay spinner who can get them wickets. This is a massive improvement for me given last year I was hardly used because I wasn't consistent enough.

The point where I'm at is I can bowl with accuracy, my line and length will generally be wayward in the first 3 balls of my spell but it hardly affects my overall performance. I've recently increased my pace so I'm now firing it in at around 35-50 mph where as I was just bowling 30-35mph deliveries that batsman would find awkward to play given I still landed it on a good line and length.

Thing is, I still find that I'm not a complete spinner yet. Things I need to work on are variation and match awareness [so making the adjustments to conditions and the team]. For example, last week, I was bowling a very fullish length, but the batsman were coming down the track and making them into full tosses and driving for boundaries. I learnt that I needed to bowl just a touch shorter but I made the adjustment to late and ended up bowling just a small number of full tosses.

Only reward for pitching it up was I got two wickets bowled and stumped, but got figures of 31-2 after 4 overs.

Can you give details on your action? How do you grip the ball?
 
Can you give details on your action? How do you grip the ball?

Grip it with the thumb, index and middle fingers. That's it. I use the index finger to spin it. Not the conventional finger spinner's grip.

 
Finished season poorly, took 28 wickets at around 19 a piece this season.

wanted to take at least 30-35.
 
[MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] My appearances in Club Cricket are like the undertaker :))), it's like uni finishes around mid-june and then Ramadan starts so I can't be bothered to play while am fasting. And after Ramadan ends I just be lazy, my mate asks me to come here and there but I usually don't go because what's the point unless you commit to something 100%. Anyway decided to go to a friendly today, bowled about 5 overs for 38 and took a wicket. It was a decent performance considering I hadn't played at all this season. We had batted first and scored 300 odd but ended up losing the game in the final over due to pakistani esque fielding lmao I gave a guy a hattrick and was bowled out for a duck trying a slog to cow corner when there was 3 balls left in the innings, when I came into bat the captain came to me and was like give me a single mate LOL
 
[MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] I've sought of lost control over my variations all of a sudden, this has happened for a while now and I don't know what's wrong. When I try to use them I end up bowling too quick and too short so instead I find more luck bowling a good line, pitching it up and giving the ball flight. The odd one turns but I've lost my googly man:danish

How was your season btw?
 
[MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] My appearances in Club Cricket are like the undertaker :))), it's like uni finishes around mid-june and then Ramadan starts so I can't be bothered to play while am fasting. And after Ramadan ends I just be lazy, my mate asks me to come here and there but I usually don't go because what's the point unless you commit to something 100%. Anyway decided to go to a friendly today, bowled about 5 overs for 38 and took a wicket. It was a decent performance considering I hadn't played at all this season. We had batted first and scored 300 odd but ended up losing the game in the final over due to pakistani esque fielding lmao I gave a guy a hattrick and was bowled out for a duck trying a slog to cow corner when there was 3 balls left in the innings, when I came into bat the captain came to me and was like give me a single mate LOL

:))) :)))

Good day then lol. Get committed next season...the rewards could be endearing.
 
[MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] I've sought of lost control over my variations all of a sudden, this has happened for a while now and I don't know what's wrong. When I try to use them I end up bowling too quick and too short so instead I find more luck bowling a good line, pitching it up and giving the ball flight. The odd one turns but I've lost my googly man:danish

How was your season btw?

If you have time before next season or even this winter, work on your variations and practice bowling long spells under pressure to get that consistency. Having not committed this season probably didn't help though.

If the variations aren't working, it's usually a good remedy if you go back to bowling your stock ball then just going from there when you feel comfortable that you've owned it.

My season was probably my breakout season. I've taken three 4fers and a six-fer in the season. I'm so proud of that given I wasn't even given a bowl last season because captains weren't confident with giving me a bowl because I sprayed it everywhere.
 
If you have time before next season or even this winter, work on your variations and practice bowling long spells under pressure to get that consistency. Having not committed this season probably didn't help though.

If the variations aren't working, it's usually a good remedy if you go back to bowling your stock ball then just going from there when you feel comfortable that you've owned it.

My season was probably my breakout season. I've taken three 4fers and a six-fer in the season. I'm so proud of that given I wasn't even given a bowl last season because captains weren't confident with giving me a bowl because I sprayed it everywhere.

That's good advice cheers mate, will have to work on my stock ball and take it from there. Confidence is so important for leggies man, without it your rhythm is screwed.

That's so cool dude! what do you think made you better this season? what changes did you make.

And :))) @ sprayed it everywhere. You know today, after two overs the captain and VC go to me you got one more over to redeem yourself or you're off :))) it was a friendly after all they should have relaxed :yk I bowled well in that over and they gave me 2 or 3 more. It was a 40 over game.
 
:))) :)))

Good day then lol. Get committed next season...the rewards could be endearing.

I swear to God it's like the Pakistan team and at times the Big Cats :))) everyone's always fighting, seniority rules, our guys have serious temper issues and behave the way they feel. Like if you give them a stare on the cricket pitch they literally try to fight you and start swearing before everyone stops it lol so many talented players always manage to lose games from winning positions. Quiet a few are good enough to play in the esteemed bham premier league but choose to stay in a lower league because of loyalty and the banter :))
 
[MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] I've sought of lost control over my variations all of a sudden, this has happened for a while now and I don't know what's wrong. When I try to use them I end up bowling too quick and too short so instead I find more luck bowling a good line, pitching it up and giving the ball flight. The odd one turns but I've lost my googly man:danish

How was your season btw?

maybe its time to retire
 
oh my :))) :)))

you're the real life Roman Reinz then :yk better get to weight lifting and jogging cuz you have to be prepared for Wrestlemania

Nah like I always play on and off for the reasons I told Kiri :)) am going to make a commitment next season though, but then again like is it worth it if am not fasting on saturdays or sundays? because that's when games are on. Do you play any club cricket you jobber :))) can imagine you being that guy that guy from Lagaan that bats like this:

lagaan_guran.jpg


:)))
 
Nah like I always play on and off for the reasons I told Kiri :)) am going to make a commitment next season though, but then again like is it worth it if am not fasting on saturdays or sundays? because that's when games are on. Do you play any club cricket you jobber :))) can imagine you being that guy that guy from Lagaan that bats like this:

lagaan_guran.jpg


:)))

I retired from cricket after High School :))) because my team won the cup and I didn't want my OD career to get ruined since it was my only OD :))) :)))


and that guy has a lot of hair, that can only be one :))) the only Rohman Reinz fanbeast :))) :)))
 
I retired from cricket after High School :))) because my team won the cup and I didn't want my OD career to get ruined since it was my only OD :))) :)))


and that guy has a lot of hair, that can only be one :))) the only Rohman Reinz fanbeast :))) :)))

lmao you went out on a high :))) it probably is lool

My fam don't let me watch sports that I don't play and have to be fairly decent, I use to watch boxing but then was forced to join a club and the same happened with cricket; my fam be like don't want you to be those lazy arm chair critics, be a part of the action. You know if we don't play sports which we watch, they do our besti :))) Once my relative chased me with a cricket bat to the park when I had been inside for too long watching a test match, wasn't even that old lol

The wrestling I got away with because I told them it's all nakli etc :))) man imagine being forced to take a bump through a burning table
 
lmao you went out on a high :))) it probably is lool

My fam don't let me watch sports that I don't play and have to be fairly decent, I use to watch boxing but then was forced to join a club and the same happened with cricket; my fam be like don't want you to be those lazy arm chair critics, be a part of the action. You know if we don't play sports which we watch, they do our besti :))) Once my relative chased me with a cricket bat to the park when I had been inside for too long watching a test match, wasn't even that old lol

The wrestling I got away with because I told them it's all nakli etc :))) man imagine being forced to take a bump through a burning table

:))) :)))

pay my regards to your fam muuuwaaahh :)))

they know a jobber when they see one :))

why haven't you tried MMA? do you watch Ronda bibi behind closed doors :)))
 
:))) :)))

pay my regards to your fam muuuwaaahh :)))

they know a jobber when they see one :))

why haven't you tried MMA? do you watch Ronda bibi behind closed doors :)))

Kasme, I'd just sit on my bum burying you online all day if it was up to me :))).

Have to watch Ronda matches behind closed doors, I once got caught watching a divas match and got buried with a golden shovel :))) and u know asians they will make it out like u were watching an adult video clip
 
Kasme, I'd just sit on my bum burying you online all day if it was up to me :))).

Have to watch Ronda matches behind closed doors, I once got caught watching a divas match and got buried with a golden shovel :))) and u know asians they will make it out like u were watching an adult video clip

:))) :))) that's happened to me like lots of time :))) my cousin started to give me looks as if I lost my virginity :)))
 
:))) :))) that's happened to me like lots of time :))) my cousin started to give me looks as if I lost my virginity :)))

:))) you should have looked at him and said WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! then do the Ric Flair Strut
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=23375]khalil1986[/MENTION]

Going to start training in the winter?
 
Too right, was supposed to start some work on my fitness but been lazy so will probably start in new year and than winter nets usually start around January February too
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=23375]khalil1986[/MENTION]

Going to start training in the winter?

Am trying to play a season next year so thus far I've begun to make small changes in my diet like I've minimized takeaway food and have cut down on fizzy drinks; also go to the gym once a week :yk2 It's hard for asians to multi task especially with other stuff like uni work lol I didn't bring my cricket kit with me to uni this time but I have ball and they have in door facilities so perhaps I may go for a bowl here and there probably unlikely though. But in the christmas holidays am going to the net sessions in my home city.

What about you?
 
Am trying to play a season next year so thus far I've begun to make small changes in my diet like I've minimized takeaway food and have cut down on fizzy drinks; also go to the gym once a week :yk2 It's hard for asians to multi task especially with other stuff like uni work lol I didn't bring my cricket kit with me to uni this time but I have ball and they have in door facilities so perhaps I may go for a bowl here and there probably unlikely though. But in the christmas holidays am going to the net sessions in my home city.

What about you?
My club outdoor nets are a 30 min walk from my house. I'm hoping to get in 1000 deliveries per week through the winter outdoor. Which is about 2 hours worth of putting down deliveries.

I think the more I bowl, the more accurate I get. So hopefully that helps.
 
Am trying to play a season next year so thus far I've begun to make small changes in my diet like I've minimized takeaway food and have cut down on fizzy drinks; also go to the gym once a week :yk2 It's hard for asians to multi task especially with other stuff like uni work lol I didn't bring my cricket kit with me to uni this time but I have ball and they have in door facilities so perhaps I may go for a bowl here and there probably unlikely though. But in the christmas holidays am going to the net sessions in my home city.

What about you?
Also, forget gym man. If you want to build and maintain fitness and muscle, do push ups, sit ups, crunches in sets every week and you'll be fine. Don't have to go out. Don't have to spend. You can just do it just there if needed.

Hope you stay positive my friend. Rewards can be prosperous.
 
My club outdoor nets are a 30 min walk from my house. I'm hoping to get in 1000 deliveries per week through the winter outdoor. Which is about 2 hours worth of putting down deliveries.

I think the more I bowl, the more accurate I get. So hopefully that helps.

Bloody Hell 1000 deliveries :))) I'd need to by 10 party Buckers from KFC before hand. That's good I guess whatever works for you; for me the more I bowl the less accurate I get :))) put that down to fitness as well I guess. Still be careful not to become a bowling machine and always bowl with a plan/structure in terms of what you're trying to achieve.
 
Also, forget gym man. If you want to build and maintain fitness and muscle, do push ups, sit ups, crunches in sets every week and you'll be fine. Don't have to go out. Don't have to spend. You can just do it just there if needed.

Hope you stay positive my friend. Rewards can be prosperous.

I guess the other reason I joined it was to keep my brain awake, because studying ins mentally draining. And last year I kinda balooned up in wait, did no physical activity at all. Am not so disciplined to keep up a regular routine like the one you speak off, going to the gym once a week also sought of motivates you to keep an eye on your diet. Anyway we are spinners doesn't really matter WOOOO! True you keep at it as well bro, am guessing you just train as often as you can and do the crunches etc on the side instead of going to gym. And trust me I would never want to get a gym membership etc but a new one opened local and it's no contract 15 quid per month so not bad
 
I guess the other reason I joined it was to keep my brain awake, because studying ins mentally draining. And last year I kinda balooned up in wait, did no physical activity at all. Am not so disciplined to keep up a regular routine like the one you speak off, going to the gym once a week also sought of motivates you to keep an eye on your diet. Anyway we are spinners doesn't really matter WOOOO! True you keep at it as well bro, am guessing you just train as often as you can and do the crunches etc on the side instead of going to gym. And trust me I would never want to get a gym membership etc but a new one opened local and it's no contract 15 quid per month so not bad

how much do you weigh ?
 
My club outdoor nets are a 30 min walk from my house. I'm hoping to get in 1000 deliveries per week through the winter outdoor. Which is about 2 hours worth of putting down deliveries.

I think the more I bowl, the more accurate I get. So hopefully that helps.

that's good. I bet we will see Ragana Herath the 2nd soon :ahmed
 
Am trying to play a season next year so thus far I've begun to make small changes in my diet like I've minimized takeaway food and have cut down on fizzy drinks; also go to the gym once a week :yk2 It's hard for asians to multi task especially with other stuff like uni work lol I didn't bring my cricket kit with me to uni this time but I have ball and they have in door facilities so perhaps I may go for a bowl here and there probably unlikely though. But in the christmas holidays am going to the net sessions in my home city.

What about you?

I try to cut down of food, but every friday night is a booze night for me, so that doesn't help :yk
 
I try to cut down of food, but every friday night is a booze night for me, so that doesn't help :yk

It's hard to cut down on food; the quick fix is going to gym three times a week to counter the food you eat. And am not talking about over-eating being the problem but the amount we eat to maintain our weight is still a big issue. I guess if your body fat percentage is low then you can afford to eat as much as you normally do; otherwise you have to eat below your calorie deficit by cutting down on the booze etc :afridi or go gym at least 3 times. [MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] just does sit ups in his bed rooms and hits the KFC joints all over London; still manages to pick up wickets :yk2
 
I'm also a leggie, albeit with no variations and I haven't bowled in over 6 months. :afridi
 
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