"The step up from PSL to international cricket is a big step" : Luke Ronchi

[The Viper]

Luke Ronchi at the post match presser

"The wicket wasnt that easy to start with; I think the score we put on the board was a really good total; I think there are parts of the game we could have done it better, but I think 183 was enough to defend on that pitch"

"I dont think we executed as well as we could when we were bowling; Karachi bowled more slower balls into the pitch and made it a lot harder for our timing when we were batting"

"We've had couple of good wins and a couple of tight losses where we just havent executed as well as we can in both departments"

"I just think that the player pool you have here is amazing, I think there is a lot of skill; At the same time, let me say that the step up from PSL cricket to international cricket is a big step; Its more about honing skills at this level and to work out your game plan whether its batting or bowling, or fielding; As for particular names (in Pakistani players who could represent the country), there are a lot of them and emerging players; There are a lot of guys who havent played much international cricket but are really good; If those guys can work on their skills then going forward, Pakistan cricket can be a real powerhouse; I think the skills of players (in PSL) are really high"

"Shadab Khan is a good captain; He is a young and passionate guy and he is a really good communicator with everyone; Thats what you need from a captain who is willing to talk to everyone during the tough times; At the moment for us he is batting really well and has bowled well in a few games too; So that's a good sign for us when your captain is leading from the front and performing then everyone else sort of follows; The decisions he is taking are working really well for us; I like having him as captain and its a good move for the franchise"

"We just have to scrape into the fourth position and win it, we have been in that position before"

 

[minamino]

Ronchi is lucky to be still playing. A pathetic innings from him today.

 

[Syed1]

Team mein apni jagah mustehkum karnay ke liyay kya kya paapar bailnay parhtay hain

 

[ElRaja]

having seen a few games i think the biggest problem is a lack of quality spinners, and one dimensional bowling/fielding strategies.

in international cricket top players are very quick to adapt to players and suss out their weaknesses. psl is good for getting players used to playing in front of crowds tho.

 

[Hawkeye]

Spot on by Ronchi.

 

[PakPremi]

Good comments by Ronchi.

 

[Barragan]

True, otherwise guys like him, riley, ingram etc would be flopping.

 

[Titan24]

Same is the case with every other league as well that international cricket is big step in comparison and thats true even for IPL, yes steps sizes can vary but they remain. Overall good comments by Ronchi.

 

[FreePalestine]

True, otherwise guys like him, riley, ingram etc would be flopping.

On what basis do you assume Riley would flop in intl cricket?

 

[Barragan]

On what basis do you assume Riley would flop in intl cricket?

Because he has already played intl. cricket.

He may have got better, but I highly doubt it.

 

[Titan24]

Because he has already played intl. cricket.

He may have got better, but I highly doubt it.

Riley Russouw was man of the series in his last ODI series which was vs Aus,scored 122 in his last ODI. He was always a high quality player.

 

[minamino]

Same is the case with every other league as well that international cricket is big step in comparison and thats true even for IPL, yes steps sizes can vary but they remain. Overall good comments by Ronchi.

No, IPL is different. Every world-class bowler and batsman play that league except for Pakistanis. There are also high-class coaches available there.

 

[Titan24]

No, IPL is different. Every world-class bowler and batsman play that league except for Pakistanis. There are also high-class coaches available there.

Only 4 overseas players are allowed, that doesn make it international level. International level is still a different step altogether

 

[minamino]

Only 4 overseas players are allowed, that doesn make it international level. International level is still a different step altogether

It makes. Those international players are the best in the world not relu kattas like Ronchi, Samit, Wiese, Sammy etc.

 

[Titan24]

It makes. Those international players are the best in the world not relu kattas like Ronchi, Samit, Wiese, Sammy etc.

Again, overseas players being better than other leagues doesnt make it international level, yes better than other leagues. There are 4 overseas players but 7 local players and majority of them arent world class so comparison with international cricket isnt valid.

 

[Ertugrul_Bey]

It makes. Those international players are the best in the world not relu kattas like Ronchi, Samit, Wiese, Sammy etc.

You need get off the IPL high horse as their local talent specially bowlers are below average hence giving everyone opportunities to score big.

A league where Dinda, Thakur and Jaydev Unadkat are opening bowler, even a blind person can tell it’s not close to International level.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

International cricket will always be the pinnacle regardless of how much money you put into the leagues etc.
International cricket will always be better than lets say inter city or inter state cricket.

 

[Saj]

The worrying thing is many of our batsmen look average in the PSL, what are they going to do in international cricket.

 

[Titan24]

The worrying thing is many of our batsmen look average in the PSL, what are they going to do in international cricket.

I think PCB needs to do something about young batsmen to be selected in the draft and given chances so that they can get exposure with international players and develop their games. Only Haider Ali from young lot has been given proper oppurtunities and has shown his potential.

Guys like Abdullah Shafiq, Zeeshan Ashraf, Omair Yousuf, Mohammad Harris, Mohammad Hurraira etc need to be playing in top 4 or to 6 of the teams. As created a thread for it as well, I think the only way to insure that is to have a rule of one upcoming U24 or 25 local batsman in top 6.

As proper batsmen arent being played rather technically deficient who can hit couple of sixes on their good day are being preferred. Young batsmen can have much higher ceiling across the formats if they are given proper platforms and exposure to develop.

 

[Buzurg Khan]

I think PCB needs to do something about young batsmen to be selected in the draft and given chances so that they can get exposure with international players and develop their games. Only Haider Ali from young lot has been given proper oppurtunities and has shown his potential.

Guys like Abdullah Shafiq, Zeeshan Ashraf, Omair Yousuf, Mohammad Harris, Mohammad Hurraira etc need to be playing in top 4 or to 6 of the teams. As created a thread for it as well, I think the only way to insure that is to have a rule of one upcoming U24 or 25 local batsman in top 6.

As proper batsmen arent being played rather technically deficient who can hit couple of sixes on their good day are being preferred. Young batsmen can have much higher ceiling across the formats if they are given proper platforms and exposure to develop.

I like the thought behind this but I don't think it's practical in franchise cricket. It's T20 and depending the situation, game-length, pitch, opposition etc. teams have to make changes on their feet. So if one team's emerging batsman is in great form but the other is struggling, then in a crucial game it would be unfair to force them into those choices.

Perhaps the PCB could consider something similar to the Qalandars' development program and place upcoming young cricketers in grade cricket and elsewhere (like Haris Rauf in Australia) where they can get more exposure and experience. Make it so that these guys are obvious picks for the PSL franchises at auction and not forced additions.

 

[Titan24]

I like the thought behind this but I don't think it's practical in franchise cricket. It's T20 and depending the situation, game-length, pitch, opposition etc. teams have to make changes on their feet. So if one team's emerging batsman is in great form but the other is struggling, then in a crucial game it would be unfair to force them into those choices.

Perhaps the PCB could consider something similar to the Qalandars' development program and place upcoming young cricketers in grade cricket and elsewhere (like Haris Rauf in Australia) where they can get more exposure and experience. Make it so that these guys are obvious picks for the PSL franchises at auction and not forced additions.

I understand and your suggestion of grade cricket is good as well.

However, I dont think playing two youngsters in PSL's playing xi, one bowler and one batsman should be that much of an issue as franchises can still select those emerging players as per their wish and they will still have 9 other players the way hey want to play.

As per the form they will still have the option to rotate emerging batsmen and also shuffle their batting order accordingly but playing them below no 6 would serve no purpose.

As clearly when we see other leagues like IPL, CPL, BBL etc they do select young talented players over certain players who might be good at domestic level but dont have a higher ceiling so there must be something which other leagues would have communicated which we dont see in PSL's team managements as they try to play safe with experienced domestic performers and dont take risk like which give them higher returns than some proven strugglers.

 

[Titan24]

[MENTION=151480]Buzurg Khan[/MENTION] definitely sending young batsmen during off season to Australian grade cricket and having some program for English counties second xi as well can during off season can be really good for the development.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The worrying thing is many of our batsmen look average in the PSL, what are they going to do in international cricket.

Local batsmen are not getting the same opportunities as foreign players. We have scenarios where foreign players dominate the top-orders of pretty much every team.

You cannot call the failures of local talent on the basis of Fakhar, Shehzad, Sharjeel etc mucking up their opportunities.

 

[Indiafan]

You need get off the IPL high horse as their local talent specially bowlers are below average hence giving everyone opportunities to score big.

A league where Dinda, Thakur and Jaydev Unadkat are opening bowler, even a blind person can tell it’s not close to International level.

Lol at scoring big when the average score of last few ipls is 160 while psl in pakistan have average score of 180

 

[Buzurg Khan]

I understand and your suggestion of grade cricket is good as well.

However, I dont think playing two youngsters in PSL's playing xi, one bowler and one batsman should be that much of an issue as franchises can still select those emerging players as per their wish and they will still have 9 other players the way hey want to play.

As per the form they will still have the option to rotate emerging batsmen and also shuffle their batting order accordingly but playing them below no 6 would serve no purpose.

As clearly when we see other leagues like IPL, CPL, BBL etc they do select young talented players over certain players who might be good at domestic level but dont have a higher ceiling so there must be something which other leagues would have communicated which we dont see in PSL's team managements as they try to play safe with experienced domestic performers and dont take risk like which give them higher returns than some proven strugglers.

That's true as well. Like last year in the IPL Yuvraj wasn't really getting many games but younger local guys—even those far from national selection—in most teams were getting regular playing time. Two emerging/young talents per playing XI could be one way to go about it.

 

[Saj]

Local batsmen are not getting the same opportunities as foreign players. We have scenarios where foreign players dominate the top-orders of pretty much every team.

You cannot call the failures of local talent on the basis of Fakhar, Shehzad, Sharjeel etc mucking up their opportunities.

Several are getting chances but flopping. Rizwan Hussain being an example.

 

[Khan12]

Several are getting chances but flopping. Rizwan Hussain being an example.

He's only got 2 matches when the foregeiners rubbish keep getting picked over an over again. Regardless of their performances. It's time for us to accept that we still suffer from ghulam mentality. Not saying Rizwan is some world beater. He's an opener and doesn't get many chances.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Several are getting chances but flopping. Rizwan Hussain being an example.

The likes of Umar Amin and Awais Zia, who were top-scorers in the National T20, are not getting chances.

Pretty much every young player, besides Haider and Zeeshan, have been pushed up and down the batting line-up (Rizwan included). Agreed on that, even in the limited opportunities, they don't look so great, but you need to give them time and ample opportunities at a stable spot.