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The world never appreciated India enough for accepting defeat within just a week in May 2025 confrontation with Pakistan

Bhaijaan

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Looking at the way the West Asia war has continued for more than a month and its devastating impact on the people of the region and the global economy has made me thought probably never appreciated our neighbours India enough for waving the white flags and accepting defeat within just 1 week of the confrontation against us and quickly accepting the mercy offered by us and Americans to them.

A lot of people made fun of them at that time and call them cowards but on hindsight it was maturity from their side and pure wisdom. They put the immediate and long term interests of their people and their economy above ego and an obvious tendency to escalate the war further.

Being a nuclear power, Indians displayed remarkable maturity and for that I would like to appreciate and thank them finally. You did good.

Sometimes it’s just better to accept your adversary’s clear superiority over you. 🙂
 
This is a very thought provoking perspective. I shall have to give it some thought, but my initial instinct is that @Bhaijaan is taking a mature long term perspective here, and perhaps Pakistanis should acknowledge it.

Granted as a born Brit, that is easier for me to do, but I would urge my Pakistani heritage brothers to also think outside the box and give it some consideration.
 
The world knows India cant keep it up for too long and crashes and burns pretty quickly. India needs the blue pill to go with the blue kit.
 
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It tells a lot more about capitulation and run to Clinton or Trump..it's a country with legacy of rejecting their martyrs and surrendering 93k of them in 16 days...so it's much easier for India...if it was Iran...then they are lions and not sheep
 
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It tells a lot more about capitulation and run to Clinton or Trump..it's a country with legacy of rejecting their martyrs and surrendering 93k of them in 16 days...so it's much easier for India...if it was Iran...then they are lions and not sheep

Trust me, you all elevated yourselves in our eyes by being humble and thinking for the greater good. I was thinking about the situation today and despite how proud I am of Iran for the fight back, a part of me feels somewhat guilty too for bringing the world to stands till, bringing destruction and economic loss to the world by our actions. India could have taken it to heart and went for bigger missiles but you were pragmatic and took the punch on the face like a genuinely brave nation. By losing that one battle you ensured your people survived to tell the tale.
 
Trust me, you all elevated yourselves in our eyes by being humble and thinking for the greater good. I was thinking about the situation today and despite how proud I am of Iran for the fight back, a part of me feels somewhat guilty too for bringing the world to stands till, bringing destruction and economic loss to the world by our actions. India could have taken it to heart and went for bigger missiles but you were pragmatic and took the punch on the face like a genuinely brave nation. By losing that one battle you ensured your people survived to tell the tale.
Bigger missiles by India, but we saw Modi accusing Pakistan for a nuclear blackmail
 
Good trolling OP but your targets are too dense..they are already taking our victory procession on donkeys...but ya I am glad we could survive against Propaganda Air Force ..just hit the targets kill some and lose the war in the eyes or pak awaam..who can beat them.
 
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Good trolling OP but your targets are too dense..they are already taking our victory procession on donkeys...but ya I am glad we could survive against Propaganda Air Force ..just hit the targets kill some and lose the war in the eyes or pak awaam..who can beat them.

Let's go over some facts before you declare which side is doing propaganda:

-India was surprised by Pakistan's reaponse as they were declaring that 'objectives' were met after bombing a school. This fact is backed by Modi's claim of 'Pakistan ne hum pe hi hamla kar diya'

-Your general admitted to jets being shot down when Pakistan responded. This fact is backed by your General of Defense staff saying "losses are a part of combat"

-Your airforce was grounded for 2 days. This fact was again an admission by your own general

I'm not sure what Pakistani propaganda you keep referring to when your own leaders are admitting to losses. Unless you're saying your generals like @Bhaijaan are taking Pakistan's side
 
Let's go over some facts before you declare which side is doing propaganda:

-India was surprised by Pakistan's reaponse as they were declaring that 'objectives' were met after bombing a school. This fact is backed by Modi's claim of 'Pakistan ne hum pe hi hamla kar diya'

-Your general admitted to jets being shot down when Pakistan responded. This fact is backed by your General of Defense staff saying "losses are a part of combat"

-Your airforce was grounded for 2 days. This fact was again an admission by your own general

I'm not sure what Pakistani propaganda you keep referring to when your own leaders are admitting to losses. Unless you're saying your generals like @Bhaijaan are taking Pakistan's side
another fact - pakistan has the worlds longest missle strike in history, in this easy win = 200 kilometers :cool:

india is also part of the above record being on the receiving end :p


Another fact - india begged the americans to intervene for a ceasefire :ROFLMAO:

@straighttalk
 
Now that I am feeling the impact personally with the current war, I don't care which country lost and won the Pak-Ind war. With both nations calling it off after a week was a big relief to people on both sides of the border in all human and capital indexes. It also shows maturity and restraint of both military leaderships.
 
Let's go over some facts before you declare which side is doing propaganda:

-India was surprised by Pakistan's reaponse as they were declaring that 'objectives' were met after bombing a school. This fact is backed by Modi's claim of 'Pakistan ne hum pe hi hamla kar diya'

-Your general admitted to jets being shot down when Pakistan responded. This fact is backed by your General of Defense staff saying "losses are a part of combat"

-Your airforce was grounded for 2 days. This fact was again an admission by your own general

I'm not sure what Pakistani propaganda you keep referring to when your own leaders are admitting to losses. Unless you're saying your generals like @Bhaijaan are taking Pakistan's side
It is well established by bbc sky and abc that that targets hit were terrorist bases. Also admitted by jehadis themselves and your army stood behind. A un sanctioned terrorist. So your lies are caught again. Indian objectives were two fold ..kill the terrorists and suspend IWT. Pak failed to defend their jehadis inspite of warnign and can't do anything beyond. Empty threats with regards to IWT. Since Indian objective was met ...there was no reason to continue the war unless pak retaliated.

Modi simply stated Pak attacked India...why would India be surprised...would Pakistan not do anything.

There was a jet lost on first day..as the current Iran war shows..when you take offensive actions..you can lose jets..look at Kargil 65 71 wars...IAF took more losses but won the wars for India because IAF is an aggressive force not a defensive force who shies away from fights or only operate in their own territory

I don't know where you get this bs idea that jets were grounded for two days. He said after two days we hit them and hit 11 bases. It's well established now that your pm and munir ran to Trump saying ,35 million paks will die if you don't request India for ceasefire ..a fact uttered by Trump in front of your pm and he didn't deny .

Now let's break apart your life one by one..

Let's agree Pak shot down 1 jet on day 1. If IAF was grounded per you..what changed in two days ..going by your logic ..since two days later your radar hq9 and 11 bases were hit...it looks like PAF was overpowered...how else do you go from grounded to destruction. It's no wonder you all ran to Trump and nominated him for peace prize. Truth is India wanted Pak to retaliate and that gave India the right to hit pak .military targets .before that it was only terrorists.
 
It is well established by bbc sky and abc that that targets hit were terrorist bases. Also admitted by jehadis themselves and your army stood behind. A un sanctioned terrorist. So your lies are caught again. Indian objectives were two fold ..kill the terrorists and suspend IWT. Pak failed to defend their jehadis inspite of warnign and can't do anything beyond. Empty threats with regards to IWT. Since Indian objective was met ...there was no reason to continue the war unless pak retaliated.

Modi simply stated Pak attacked India...why would India be surprised...would Pakistan not do anything.

There was a jet lost on first day..as the current Iran war shows..when you take offensive actions..you can lose jets..look at Kargil 65 71 wars...IAF took more losses but won the wars for India because IAF is an aggressive force not a defensive force who shies away from fights or only operate in their own territory

I don't know where you get this bs idea that jets were grounded for two days. He said after two days we hit them and hit 11 bases. It's well established now that your pm and munir ran to Trump saying ,35 million paks will die if you don't request India for ceasefire ..a fact uttered by Trump in front of your pm and he didn't deny .

Now let's break apart your life one by one..

Let's agree Pak shot down 1 jet on day 1. If IAF was grounded per you..what changed in two days ..going by your logic ..since two days later your radar hq9 and 11 bases were hit...it looks like PAF was overpowered...how else do you go from grounded to destruction. It's no wonder you all ran to Trump and nominated him for peace prize. Truth is India wanted Pak to retaliate and that gave India the right to hit pak .military targets .before that it was only terrorists.

Word for word from General Anil Chauhan:

"The good part is we were able to understand the tactical mistake which we made, remedy it, rectify it and then implement it again after 2 days and flew all our jets again "

I already shared the video with you in a previous post. You can listen to it yourself
 
Word for word from General Anil Chauhan:

"The good part is we were able to understand the tactical mistake which we made, remedy it, rectify it and then implement it again after 2 days and flew all our jets again "

I already shared the video with you in a previous post. You can listen to it yourself
Yes we all heard what he said. Which part of it says that Indian air force was grounded. If grounded what was PAF doing..twiddling their thumbs for those two days. When there is a combat mission..you analyze what went wrong and what went well.. then implement those lessons...that's all happened...he didn't say we couldn't fly
.he said we rectified our mistakes and hit them hard after two days. That doesn't mean it as grounded for two days. It means the next attack came after two days.
 
Yes we all heard what he said. Which part of it says that Indian air force was grounded. If grounded what was PAF doing..twiddling their thumbs for those two days. When there is a combat mission..you analyze what went wrong and what went well.. then implement those lessons...that's all happened...he didn't say we couldn't fly
.he said we rectified our mistakes and hit them hard after two days. That doesn't mean it as grounded for two days. It means the next attack came after two days.


You're contradicting what you said earlier. An aggressive force doesn't shy away for 2 days. I know critical thinking wasn't taught in whatever Sanghi college you graduated from but you're on PP university now, learn it from us or otherwise don't bother debating with repetitive and lame arguments. It's clear your aggressive force couldn't handle the initial losses and went into hiding so that they don't suffer any more humiliation. It's also a fact that your jets were shot down in your own territory from across the border.

There was a jet lost on first day..as the current Iran war shows..when you take offensive actions..you can lose jets..look at Kargil 65 71 wars...IAF took more losses but won the wars for India because IAF is an aggressive force not a defensive force who shies away from fights or only operate in their own territory
 
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